I'll start off by saying everyone is entitled to their opinion and allowed to like whatever films they want.
Ok so I'm talking to this girl and we start talking about films. She's never watched a Taranto film before so I got her to watch a few. The only one she likes is Kill Bill... And probably for all the wrong reasons.
So she just got around to watching The Hateful Eight, which is in my opinion one of the best Taranto films. She says it's the worst of the bunch.
One of her favourite films is final destination. I asked her if she thinks that final destination is a better film that The Hateful Eight and she just said yes.
I'm actually baffled. How is this even possible? I can't actually process how someone's brain can watch The Hateful Eight and watch final destination and decided that final destination is a better film.
of course who would coerce another man to suck their dick?
Noah Stewart
I love Tarantino's work and think people who dislike Basterds and Django are missing the point big time. I even like Death Proof a lot, though that's becoming less of an oddity these days.
I fucking despised The Hateful Eight. It was pulling me in for the first half, but as soon as the Tarantino narration starts is goes to shit. Showing a flashback to the bad guys arriving was pointless. Showing the audience how the little details add up is the dumbest shit I've ever heard of. It's like if they showed the bank robbery in Reservoir Dogs. Then they flash back and everyone is just talking about dumb bullshit, sometimes in slow motion for way too long.
I will say it's worth a re-watch simply to see the stagecoach arrive knowing everyone's allegiances. Daisy especially becomes a lot more interesting when you notice how subtle she is when giving info to her gang. The audience wouldn't catch that the first time, just like John Ruth didn't catch it.
Lincoln Reyes
It would have made a better stage play.
William Watson
Honestly, Final Destination might at be a better movie than The Hateful Eight. It was at least an original concept and accomplished what it set out to be, a genuinely suspenseful movie. That is to say nothing of the awful sequels of course. But Hateful Eight was a pretty dull affair, with a horrible, and tired, predictable ending. (Woah a Tarantino flick where everybody dies at the end) It felt like it was made entirely for the sake of Sam Jackson talking about making a white man suck his big black dingus. As I type this, I find myself thinking maybe it IS the worst of Tarantino's films.
Josiah Bennett
girl in OP actually sounds like a cool, fun, unpretentious person unlike OP himself who is undoubtedly some retarded basedblood reddit autist with an undying desire to be taken seriously for liking true "kino" (for that is what he calls it) like the absolute dogshit flick he has provided as evidence of his own terrible taste
take tarantino's cock out of your mouth and get a fucking grip on reality you complete and utter faggot
Wyatt Taylor
I've rewatched it multiple times. I think it's a way better movie than reservoir dogs although I love that too.
That isn't my point. My point is I'm incapable of understanding how someone can think that not only this film, but pulp fiction, Django unchained and Jackie brown are worse films than final destination. That final destination and don't breathe are better films than these films. How is someone's brain capable of processing these films in this way?
I didn't even bother suggesting reservoir dogs after she said she didn't enjoy pulp fiction.
Angel Gutierrez
I study film production and I just can't help but notice how badly made films like final destination are. How shit the writing is. How bad the acting is. There's absolutely 0 (Zero) character development.
Maybe you just don't have an eye for film lads. Maybe you should give it up.
Evan Martin
whoa guys we have an expert filmmaker among us.
Logan Cox
It doesn't take an expert to see how shit some films are compared to others.
Julian Scott
He definitely met and killed the general's son, but he made up the story about him sucking his dick to get him to draw on him so he could kill him.
Jaxson Gutierrez
I'm more of a final destination 3 guy myself.
Caleb Perry
Fuck Hateful Eight apologists. The movie itself isn't terrible, but the people who so feverishly defend it are insufferable, pretentious faggots.
You can't call this movie what it was - fucking boring - without being called a simple moron who needs gunfights and explosions to be entertained. Some people seem to think that the less that happens in a movie, the better it is. If thats the case, then Hateful Eight is a fucking masterclass of film-making because god damn it is 3 hours of fuck all.
Movies that are entirely dialogue are fine. I just watched 12 angry men for the first time and I loved it, despite it's horribly inaccurate representation of what a jury is actually allowed to do and discuss. So know that when people H8 was boring, its because it really, really was. Every single Tarantula movie is better. Even Death Proof. Even FUCK WHITE PEOP- I mean Django Unchained.
Andrew Howard
There's really nothing wrong with liking Final Destination, it succeeds in being the film it wants to be and comparing it to a film with loftier intentions like The Hateful Eight is a useless exercise. I agree that The Hateful Eight is a better film, but I've read plenty of insightful reviews from intelligent people who did not like it, and if one of them were to prefer Final Destination to it, that would certainly be a valid opinion.
Ayden Torres
this and also this
If Tarantino is your bar for masterclass film making you have no business judging anyone else's taste
John Campbell
(((studying film))) is a meme, and so is the idea that character development is the most important factor in a movie. What kind of character development would you like from movie about a bunch of regular ass college students who suddenly find out they're all on the Grim Reapers shitlist and have to do everything they can to not die? What kind of growth do you expect from people when every waking moment is just trying to avoid a gruesome death? And it isn't like theres a ton of "character development" going on in The Hateful Eight, besides characters going from being alive to being dead. Final Destination was a well made movie that set up a ton of, in my opinion, very suspenseful scenarios. You could make the argument that the pattern of making the viewer think a person was about to die a certain way and then having them die from something completely unexpected at the last second was a bit contrived, but the scenes were great at building tension, and the deaths were creative and cleverly done.
Logan Moore
Yeah but if you don't care about the characters why do you care if they die in the first place. Fuck them let them die no-one actually cares. That's the point of character development.
Samuel Rivera
you're GLOWING!
I'm Anthony.
I haven't had a girlfriend in 10 years.
I have 0 friends.
BUT!!! I LIVE IN BROOKLYN SO I KNOW MORE THAN YOU!
Characters don't need to develop to be fully formed and empathetic. (Not that the characters in FD are necessarily that either.) Either way, judging horror schlock by literary standards is silly and pretentious. The value of the FD films are the Rube Goldberg scenarios that the filmmakers construct to kill off the largely interchangeable cast of characters in each film. It's fine if that's not your thing, not everyone likes schlock, but it was never intended to be judged by the same rubric as a film like The Hateful Eight.
Benjamin Walker
Kek. Some roastie has better taste in movies than OP.
Justin James
Final Destination is better than The Hateful Eight. She's right that it's his worst movie as well.
You're a fuckin retard.
Colton Collins
I like how the film had the balls to give you no one to root for. Everyone is a piece of shit. At the end when daisy gets what's coming to her, there's no victory in it, only senseless brutality. Wonderfully bleak movie.
James Wilson
>Doesn't care about a character in a book or film unless they're are introduced in a proper way and not just thrown into existence >Feels nothing when a character who I can only barely associate a name with is removed from the book or film
Wtf is a bug person.
Aaron Brooks
Agreed. Half the people here are absolutely retarded and shouldn't be allowed near a cinema or screen. Final destination isn't bad but saying it's better than the hateful eight is stupid.
Aiden Rodriguez
>be me >happy another Tarantino movie out >The Hateful Eight >Alright! This is looking good so far! >They get to the cabin >30 minutes go by >o....ok surely they're about to leave that cabin and finish the rest of the movie >remaining movie is just them shitslinging at each other in that cabin. >mfw pic related
How? It's way more original and creative than fucking boring ass hateful eight. He just made a bad film and youre on tarantinos dick so much you cant budge.
Gavin Long
Agree with ths person but might I add that OP is a faggot and his girlfridn is a boy lol
Jacob Price
A neet boy who is an ultra consumer of all things latest brand and technology. Follows trends without dignity or respect for himself.
Michael Lee
Watch more films OP, preferably foreign, Japanese New Wave is a good place to start
Jacob Hill
>Honestly, Final Destination might at be a better movie than The Hateful Eight. It was at least an original concept and accomplished what it set out to be, a genuinely suspenseful movie. That is to say nothing of the awful sequels of course. But Hateful Eight was a pretty dull affair, with a horrible, and tired, predictable ending. (Woah a Tarantino flick where everybody dies at the end) It felt like it was made entirely for the sake of Sam Jackson talking about making a white man suck his big black dingus. As I type this, I find myself thinking maybe it IS the worst of Tarantino's films.
I agree Final Destination may be better. They are both genre films. FD is one of those 'concept' horror films where the unique and original concept either works or it doesn't. In that case it worked and had a likeable cast of 90s Chads and Staceys. It also had a wink and a nod to it's inspiration- 80s over the top horror.
Elijah Richardson
What? No. I was implying they might be an Asian person. Asians don't give a shit about anyone but their close relatives and will see a child get hit by a car and just keep walking, or do nothing to help a man who is getting his face eating off by a lunatic on the train.
Xavier Morales
Listen here you autistic little shit.
Mason Bailey
Yes us Brits don't care for anyone desu
Landon Cruz
Just like I didn't care about shitty characters ih Hateful 8 despite all the character development.
Nolan Long
Never thought I'd read a thread of calm, collected argument with fair points made from both sides over The Hateful Eight vs. Final Destination. I'm sad this thread is over. Never change Yea Forums.
Jeremiah Lopez
I agree with her it's one of his worst in recent memories. I just watched it last night actually. Not to say its a bad film but its underwhelming. It looks god sure but the dialogue is pretty stilted at times(tarantino tries to fit in n*gger so many times it reminds of that spike lee quote about him.) and the story itself just doesn't pack as much punch as you're led to believe. The whole reveal and mystery setup just isn't interesting.
How the fuck does Marquis know each member of the gang at the end when they tell him who they are, but doesn't know who daisy domergue is, especially when she's jody's sister?
Leo Cooper
Dude, she's just dumb. What else have you expected to hear? She's as dumb as pack of bricks.
Lincoln Perry
tarantino films are all trash hes a hack
Gabriel Edwards
It's his worst since Death Proof. The Hateful Eight was a chore to watch. And they didn't sound like a bunch of 18th century backwoodsmen, they sounded like a bunch of niggers in 21st century LA.
Cameron Thompson
Real waste of channing tatum
Asher Reed
Hateful 8 and Reservoir Dogs are his best because they're the most simple, they're basically just people in a room talking. To make that compelling they have to be good.
I didn't miss the point of basterds. I don't think most people do. In fact I'd say it's almost impossible to miss it. I don't like it becauss it's a terrible, bloated self-indulgent shitflick
Jaxon Jackson
so did james rolfe. his favorite movies are troma productions
Josiah Jenkins
back to plebbit
Justin Miller
Final Destination IS better than Hateful Eight. Fact.
Jonathan Hernandez
I think hateful 8 has a great premise and script. I also think Tarantino is a great director
Hateful 8 however... i think its one of those cases where 2 good things come together resulting in something way worse. I imagine the Coens directing this script and it could have been so much more.
Wyatt Campbell
Yeah Tarantino's style just doesn'y work with subtlety. The movie does collapse halfway I think when the narration starts likeIt's like a worse version of what happens with Django. The loss of his editor is showing
Easton Reed
She’s not examining the work on your level. She seems to be in it purely for her own entertainment value which is certainly one way people gauge the worth of entertainment
Juan Martinez
Hateful eight is pretty fucking dumb. That deus ex machina ass pull at the end with the guy below the floor was complete fucking bullshit and ruined the film for me. Made no fucking sense too.
I don't like Kill Bill and it's my least favorite Tarantino but Hateful Eight was boring.
Jack Young
based MEWkino
James Jenkins
Hateful eight is a boring mess. Can't blame her
Andrew Anderson
women are dumb
Jaxon Rodriguez
absolutely embarrassing and soiridden post samefag cringe
Isaiah Harris
Django Unchained made me worried about Tarantino, and Hateful Eight confirmed that he's lost his magic and is now the exact kind of hackneyed, bland, predictable director of shit that he was so eager to rebel against in the early 90s guy must be surrounded by yes men or sycophants that allow him to throw any old shit at a wall and see what sticks
Sebastian Smith
If you don't like the Hateful Eight because it's too long and has narration, watch this cut instead.
>I'll start off by saying people can like what they want >BUT HOW DARE THIS DUMB BITCH LIKES WHAT SHE WANTS INSTEAD OF WHAT I WANT Autism. Not even once.
Joseph Roberts
lmao fucking pretentious cockgobbling faggot, that girl has better taste than you'll ever have
Sebastian Perry
I study film too. You’re an idiot.
Charles Sanchez
>There's absolutely 0 (Zero) character development. In a movie of which the entire point is killing off characters? No way!
Joshua Gonzalez
Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one BUT MINE IS THE BEST.
Colton Smith
You sound like an annoying whiny faggot. Some bitch you are talking to has a different opinion on films and you came to 'formally Yea Forums' of all fucking places to cry about it? Think about that
Josiah Flores
1. +99% people don't know/even care about films, but just watch it to pass the time 2. if you did knew about films you'd realise tarantino films are quite bad, entertaining but bad in film terms 3. you are a faggot
Luke Morgan
Final Destination isn't good but it's still better than the horseshit that is Hateful Eight.
Cameron Bailey
The Hateful Eight is an anti white film and if you're white and like it you're a cuck.
Jaxon Ramirez
bump
Lincoln Rivera
The hateful eight isn't an anti white film just because a white dude sucks a black dudes dick.
There's one black character abs he's genuinely a badass.
You're salty that black people are better than you in America.
Matthew Collins
Who cares if the characters die of you don't develop them you inbred. That's the kind of film where you have to pay special attention to the characters development.
Tyler Fisher
Correct.
The father never mentioned what color hair has son had and he at one point says "I grabbed your son by his black hair..." If he was going to make a complete fabrication he wouldn't have bothered mentioning facts that the father would easily invalidate.
Based on how respectful he was being until the general was being a douche I highly doubt he actually did that to his son. He just wanted to kill the sum bitch after being an asshole and knew that disgracing his dead son (that he killed) would do that.
Nathan Rodriguez
You're fucking white probably.
Sad.
Ian Adams
This is the most reddit thread I've seen all week. >Tarantino check >reddit spacing check >everyone is entitled to their opinion check
If you praise Tarantino above the age of 15 then you are a brainlet
i have yet to see a valid defense of tortellino's autistic narration out of nowhere that almost took me out of film
Nolan Rogers
This is a smart dude. Everyone criticising OP is clearly unintellectual and is probably jealous he's getting pussy and they aren't.
Dylan Hughes
I disagree.
I was never bored while watching it except the very beginning when he was doing those (unnecessary) artsy shots before the stage coach. Otherwise I don't recall being bored at any point in the film. I enjoy character study movies, there is a lot happening with character development from the beginning of the movie until the end.
Sorry you have such a small attention span.
Lucas Barnes
I completely agree. Most people in this thread have two braincells that they rubbed together too hard and they fused into one.
Isaac Gray
Did people actually believe the movie was going anywhere past the cabin? You'd have to be a mongoloid to not realize that the film was obviously taking place in the cabin and that it was going to be about who got out alive.
No wonder you people hated the movie, your all so fucking stupid.
Bentley Bell
>Everyone is a piece of shit OB did nothing wrong.
It took going to bed and revisiting this tread in the morning to finally see some people making sense.
Everyone should feel assumed of themselves. The hateful eight is a great film and saying final destination compares to it in any way is absolutely stupid.
They are trying to achieve different things and that's fine. It doesn't have to be a good movie to be entertaining. But it's objectively not as good as the hateful eight.
Hunter Powell
Everyone is this thread is stupid op. Keep doing what you do.
Brody Campbell
How has this not been DMCA'd yet? Is the uploader paying royalties for a fucking vimeo fanedit? Lmfao
Owen Walker
FD is a horror movie. It's not about character development. Genres are a thing.
