He actually wasn't. The only one that was rich was tony, but he wasn't that rich, he had to keep everything in cash which is really risky.
If you remember, there's an episode where Paulie isn't making enough money to kick up to Tony so he robs a little old lady and ends up killing her. iIRC it wasn't even much, just a few grand. No way he would have been that desperate if he ever made seven figures
Xavier Bennett
Paulie was never a big earner - he was running shitty card games and extortion schemes. Ralphie was bringing in the real money.
Asher Wilson
both. he acts gossipy and treacherous because he was raised by women.
Kevin Powell
He was paying 4K / mo for his mom’s place. He must have been solidly in the 6-figure range.
Luke Bennett
They were a shitty small crew compared to the big NY families
Working as a lawyer Louis Litt from Suits is probably making a lot more money than Tony Soprano
Sure they all probably made 6 figures, but they also all had really bad spending habits. Expensive dinners, customary tipping (remember AJ giving the dwarf money for nothing), gifts for their comares, gifts for their wives, probably half their envelopes were spent on paying off authorities and passing upwards. The list of expenses goes on.
And Tony whacked him for some dumb fucking bullshit
Angel Diaz
Figures are screwy didn't Chrissy have to kick up 10% of the gambling to Paulie with a 6k minimum?
Xavier Long
kek the soprano family are honestly more tasteful than those cunts in suits
Isaac Fisher
Paulie was a poor earner. It's why Tony never promoted him and always talked down to him.
Alexander Moore
Their crew was smalltime, and even if he would never even consider a different lifestyle becuase it's part of who he is. He's grown up in that culture and done it for decades; he knows no other way. He does express disappointment at one point when he's sidelined in favour of Christopher (I think), and he contacts New York in the hope of securing a better future for himself. But generally speaking he's happy just to have a place to live, broads, a hot dinner and a place in the only world he knows.
Luke Johnson
no way he kicked a lot of it up he was a top earner
Dominic Parker
Tony did mention to Carm that it’s guys like Pauly that make their lives possible.
Caleb Jones
>he was a top earner Paulie was a shit earner, that's expressed multiple times in the show.
Robert Wright
From top to bottom Who are the best and shittiest earners in the Soprano family? How much are they making?
Lucas Cruz
he's cheap. if chrissy owed him $20 paulie would hound him for it
John Cook
Paulie never had expectations and didn't care about status, which is why he's one of the only characters that lives
Alexander Stewart
Anybody working the esplanade subsidised the rest of the family
Carson Johnson
The horse killing guy was the biggest earner. Then Vito, after that I'm not sure. Did Silvio even do anything besides be Tony's underboss?
Dominic Clark
Paulie was the stingiest of the bunch and was always the first one to whine about money.
Robert Davis
The gangsters in my city dress like that, its called being comfy
Henry Sullivan
Silvio ran the bing.
Kevin Allen
Ralphie was based
Tyler Stewart
I doubt most of them saved up more than $50K a year besides the higher ups like Tony and the captains, I imagine they had to spend their cash fast to avoid the IRS and use it on expensive meals, plane trips and other outings instead of investments.
Parker Flores
Nothing in Suits can be remotely classified as "tasteful".
Kayden King
No he wasn't. Tony has a go at him multiple times throughout the show about how he doesn't make as much as other guys, like Ralph.
Brandon Cook
There was a story of a Mafia crew who were running a chain of Pizza restaurants.
The Pizza business was so lucrative that they stopped doing illegal stuff and went 100% legal.
The Italian-American Mafia has no place in modern day America. They can’t compete with Cartels and Russian gangs.
It was stated in the show that the money flows upward. Remember when Chrissy got made he became upset at all the money he had to give up because he was expected to earn more and give a higher %. There was also the scene when artie buco said that he estimated tony only had like 400k, admittedly because of his gambling habits
Nicholas Ortiz
>at least 7 figures Tony was only making $300k lol. Paulie was maybe in the low 6s but Tony was a cheap bastard and these guys blow a lot of money on gambling, prostitutes, etc.
Brody Hall
Interesting
Matthew Powell
>300k Where you getting that from? Chrissie was kicking up 6k/wk to Paulie just running the book. That’s 300k a year right there.
Isaiah Gutierrez
>Russian gangs Russian here. I always thought Russian mob was a huge meme. Are you telling me they actually are big?
William Kelly
The Sopranos was nothing more than a glorified crew
>David Chase and The Sopranos producers worked with a technical consultant, former New York assistant district attorney Dan Castleman, to fully understand the way the real mob made their money. According to Castleman, Tony Soprano's estimated net worth was $5 to $6 million—but this number often fluctuated due to Tony's gambling habits.
not sure how much this means for Tony's annual income but I figured I'd post it
Angel Carter
Solntsevskaya Bratva is one of the most successful organized crime organizations is you rate them based upon economic success on a yearly basis.
Thomas Thomas
>Being this gay and Jewish
Bentley Cooper
thats HBO The Sopranos to you
Ayden Sullivan
Ralph>Vito>Hess>Big Pussy>TonyB>Sil>Gigi>Patsy>Bobby>Furio>Feech>Richie>Carlo>Chrissy>Junior>Benny>Eugene>Lil Paulie>Murmur>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jack Aprile Jnr
Leo Sanchez
That's what doogie housers bestie did
Christopher Young
Ralphie and then Vito big earners
Gabriel Parker
"THAT HORSE WAS AN INNOCENT CREATURE! IT NEVER DID NOTHING TO YOU!"
Noah Baker
Is that tracksuit mimicking a sailor uniform? Fuckin faggot!
Jayden Thompson
Silvio was consigliarie so he got a cut. Ran the bing but was mostly strategy and arbitration
Lucas Collins
>GAREE COOOPAAAAAHHHHHHH
Kayden Thomas
They can't compete with cartels bc mafia traditionally didn't get involved with drugs. But mafias are up against it now bc of all the corporate chains in modern times. Back in the day they can use protection money. Neighborhood shit. I'm sure they still do labor shit, gambling and loans tho
Brody Martin
Hesh said Tony blows all his money too. Hesh is good with money bc he's a Jew
John Foster
Tony killing ralphie was worse than him killing Chrissy. Fact
John Hughes
>loyal >steals money from your childhood friend
Robert Gray
True
Rate the most bad for business kills
Sebastian Wright
>Figures are screwy didn't Chrissy have to kick up 10% of the gambling to Paulie with a 6k minimum?
the figures in this show never add up.
The house take on a legal LV bet is 10%. You put up 110 to bet 100.
That means Chris would have to take in 600k worth of action to make 60k to kick 6k (10%) up to Paulie.
That's an insane amount of action to take in a week.
Tyler White
Ralphie>fat Dom>>chrissy
Joshua Robinson
Artie's restaurant was a sinking ship and besides Tony got a cut, no doubt he knew. Artie deserved it too, fuck him. He was a loser.
Mason Edwards
>tasteful Dona is tasty
Jordan Hall
/this
Jack Adams
His ma took it all
Oliver Anderson
Mobster here. AMA.
Caleb Collins
How do I join? I have free time and questionable morals.
Leo Wood
Gotta know someone and be blood related nowadays.
Cameron Lewis
>At least Seven figures a year
tony wasn't even making that. stop pull numbers out of your ass.
All his money went toward keeping his mom comfortable in the best retirement home in NJ. I remember he said how much it cost him monthly. Adding it up, it was like $100k a year
Jacob Nelson
Plus that toher story where they were trying to extort protection money and the guy was like >dude it's a chain fucking burn the place down for all the fuck I care
Camden Martin
>Yes Eastern Europe gangs are big here in Chicago. What do they do exactly? Smuggling, human trafficking, prostitution?
Dominic Russell
>Richie that low Hes probably second to Ralphie
Levi Green
REMEMBER WHEN THIS FAGGOT APPEARED ON BLOOD WORK!?
GREAT EASTWOOD KINO
Samuel Flores
YOU DUMB FUCKS, WHOEVER WAS CAPO OF THE APRILE CREW MADE THE NOST NUMBERS
THERE'S A REASON WHY JACKIE APRILE BECAME BOSS INSTEAD OF JUNIOR
I assume shit like loan sharking, human trafficking/prostitution and they probably do shakedowns/intimindation of local businesses as well. Probably some legitimate shit too with contractors.
There's a ton of central and eastern european immigrants trying to make a living so it really just depends. Gangster culture is in the city's DNA so a lot of shit has a blind eye turned to it. I've been to his dad's house before and the man is definitely made.
>he's running a sports book. they keep the losing money, the house doesnt really take a slice of a bet.
I didn't say they did. They keep the losing money but pay out on winner money. A sports book makes the most money by having people split half and half between picks, and they make money on the extra 10% it costs to place a bet.
If he made it even a little bit he'd get caught up in the hedonistic Hollywood lifestyle and be back on the junk immediately.
Blake Powell
Nah, he was just an "idea man" and got promptly btfo when the girl from the studio told him to fuck off, and he did uncomfortable shit around the director
Noah Perry
The Ben Kingsley episode is currently on the stream and he looks absolutely jelly of all the free stuff stars are getting. He even calls Kingsley and tries to force him to allow him in the free shit room.
Gavin Gomez
I don’t get it Why do they all have to kick money to a fat cunt like Tony?
Why don’t they just go lone-wolf and keep all the money they make for themselves?
It's regional, just like the italians and irish. I know the russians are pretty powerful in Hollywood these days. (Not movies, street crime stuff)
John Ortiz
Being a lone wolf means you're susceptible to getting ripped off by the mob guys. They are paying Tony for the privilege of being a made man who can't be fucked with.
Nolan Miller
They were all irresponsible with their money. Gambling and expensive dinners that their toll.
Do you think Benny took Artie to that warehouse and drove nails into his balls after the S6 ending?
Camden Jackson
Definitely. Benny has his button, no civvie puts a beating on him and walks away with just a burnt hand.
Leo Taylor
>Why don’t they just go lone-wolf and keep all the money they make for themselves? Every character that has to pay the money up considers doing this. The reason that they don't is they would be punished for it severely.
Camden Thompson
When Chris got made he had to kick up a minimum of $6,000 a week to Paulie who in turn has to kick up a minimum of $6,000 a week to Tony.
So Paulie makes at least $24,000 a month of each of the guys working under him since he's a captain, although I don't remember who is in his crew.
David Sanders
LOL, no.
Junior was the boss, acting and in name later when he was on trial. He had his own crew, and earned at least as much as Tony, but spent it all on lawyers. He had his own captains and crews. He would be second, to Tony, if not equal.
Furio was NOT an earner. He was muscle, and drove Tony around. He wasn't running anything, his job was protecting Tony and beating people up.
TonyB was small time, he was dead before he could start making big money. That's one of the reasons he took work from NY, which led to him getting killed. He was lowest rank of soldier.
Feech was small time, he barely got back in the game before going back in. He was a capo and powerful before he went to prison, but was broke and starting over when he got out.
Hess wasn't crew. He was an associate/friend of Tony's, and had small pieces of things the Soprano's had. He didn't kick up to Tony.
Bobby also wasn't a big earner until later, he drove for Junior and was his capo, and occasionally did dirty work, but never committed murder. He took over Junior's loan sharking to make a living. He had people kicking up to him.
The captains made the most. Ritchie, Ralph, Cristufah, etc. Everyone else kicked up to them. Some made good cash, some didn't. It was rain or drought.
Your list makes no sense, with the heirarchy within the family.
Bosses (Tony & Junior)
Consiglieres (Silvio)
Capos (BobbyC/Chris/Paulie, at the end)
Captains (Ritchie, Ralph, Paulie)
Soldiers (Pussy, Benny, Gigi, Vito, Furio, etc.)
The higher up, the more you earn.
Asher Jenkins
Benny, Little Paulie, and Murmur.
Isaiah Morris
He means fuck off sperg
Zachary Kelly
>Hess wasn't crew. He was an associate/friend of Tony's, and had small pieces of things the Soprano's had. He didn't kick up to Tony. > Hesh paid Tony to function as a shy in his territory. He definitely got a small piece of whatever Hesh was doing and I'm 99% sure that is mentioned in the show.
Jace Moore
You're a moron. He had to make 60K a week to kick 6k up to Paulie every week. Chris didn't keep 10% and then give 10% of that. He just had to give Paulie 6k no matter what he made, and 10% of anything over that.
Austin Kelly
He also did time during the season, so take a chunk of whatever cash he had stashed, to pay for the lawyers.
I would bet most real mobsters spend most of their cash on lawyers more than anything else.
Elijah Bailey
When given control of the Soprano crew, Paulie oversees all of Tony's old business dealings, including the Paving Union, extorting drug dealers, the pump and dump scams, charging HMOs for fake MRI expenditures, fencing stolen cars, a phone card scam, gambling, loan sharking and the crew's front businesses: Barone Sanitation and Massarone Construction.
Throughout the series, other aspects of the crew's criminal activities develop or are revealed. These include control of the Joint Fitters Union, credit card hijacking, betting shops, cigarette smuggling, and protection rackets. Legitimate businesses include Pussy's auto body shop (now run by his wife Angie), silent partner in a lawn care business, and the Feast of St. Elisario. Paulie soon becomes Tony's biggest earner.
However, by the fourth season, Paulie's businesses hit a low point, especially in comparison to the Cifaretto and Barese crews. By the fifth season, Paulie's crew regains its position as one of the family's best earners. When Paulie is promoted to underboss between the fifth and sixth seasons, Chris becomes Capo of his old crew.
Benjamin Thompson
You don't get the entire point of it, do you?
PROTECTION.
Nobody fucks with made men, and people associated with them.
Xavier Cook
Maybe, I don't remember them talking about anything like that. But he's not made, and not a soldier, he wouldn't be considered an "earner" for the family.
Aiden Johnson
Like most successful men, Paulie was driven by success, not money. He had plenty of money but didn’t feel the need to be flashy, or live luxuriously. Some successful men are driven simply by wanting nice shit, but in general the most successful men are those whose ambition is never sated.
Nathan Nelson
Hess worked with Tony's dad while in their youth and made a lot of money together. Tony mentions how he bought his current house because of royalties from the music business when the rapper dude wants money from Hess. Tony's dad never taxed Hess because he liked him and it becomes a problem when Junior becomes boss and taxes Hess.
Jason Kelly
People like Paulie dont join the mob, they just naturally become part of it. Its not his job its his life
Nathaniel Baker
Right. My point stands, he didn't kick up to Tony, he wasn't an earner on Tony's crew. He was like that corrupt cop, and the guy with the Esplanade, and the HUD scam - Tony was making money with them, but they weren't crew. They didn't kick up to Tony, they split the spoils.
That whole subplot when Tony owes Hesh money in the last season would NEVER have happened if Hesh was an earner.
Ayden Williams
Now you’re understanding who the real criminal organization is
Benjamin Collins
Labor unions are still infested with mob ties, albeit in more sly ways than back when they where just starting.
Wyatt Gutierrez
I think that's why most Americans distrust labor unions while most other countries like them.
Dominic Carter
The most confusing thing about labor unions in my country (Australia) is they're all run by subversive, weak manginas who look like they drink onions daily. I don't know why so many people join or follow them, but our unions are super rich and influential on politics. It's like crazy town down here, everything is backwards and upside down.
Nathan Foster
Also: Paulie was around for decades. You would think he was sitting on a huge pile of cash seeing as he doesn't spend it on a family or a house
Robert Wood
Yeah. He was an associate at most. Hess had money loaning operations in NJ and NY since Johnny Sack came down to talk to Junior when he wanted to tax Hess. I think he was operating in the area where Tony's dad had control and he didn't get taxed. Later on, Leotardo's men are hassling Hess' son because they didn't know he was related to him.
They are supposed to protect workers from getting screwed. I think they work as they should in the Nordic countries. Unions can get involved in politics because they control the workers in a way. They can demand better conditions or more government contracts or else they start to strike. Politicians don't want problems and bad press so they comply.
Asher Gray
he drove a 300euro Ferrari u retarded spick
Aaron Miller
>At least Seven figures a year >Seven figures >At least
Fun fact: most mobsters are poor earners and often times their income is barely considered middle-class. That's well-documented by both FBI investigations and former mobsters themselves.
Paulie must have made more but not by *that* big margin. His relationship with money was also ambiguous, even if at his core he was a simple man who was never really about the lavish life.
>Heeey, kiddo! Long time no see, huh? Lookin' good! >Thanks man, you too! I... >What a fancy piece! Going for that silver wing style too, huh? >Well, it's greying a lil bit but... >Good job on the weight loss too! You down by what? 80 pounds? 90? >Huh...? No, I actually gained... >Whateva, mang! Just slip me the number of the Doc, aight?! Huh?! >Okay, that's... Fuck it. I'm out! >Hey! Where are you goin? Hey! Did I just... Come back, Jimmy boy!
He and Gandolfini used to do a lot of coke, getting shit-faced, fucking random whores during the show's run and maybe after too.
Jason Roberts
Yeh but you're also retarded user
Dylan Sanders
a theme of the series is how everybody involved in the mafia pretends to be big shit and rich while most of them are actually old nobodies and have no money at all
I'd probably still dress like shit too if I were rich, because I value comfort over looks
And I'd probably drive a shitty car too because a bland and generic sedan is a hell lot less conspicuous and easier to get spare parts for than some foreign luxury car
At most I'd move into a bigger apartment
Nathan Brown
rich people wear expensive fabrics and tailored cuts because they're more comfortable, they might still look like shit
and you'd get a brand new reliable car every year, and never have to bring it to a mechanic, it's CHEAPER to sell the car and get a new one every year than it is to maintain the same car if it's a few years old. If it's stolen your insurance pays the whole thing and you get another new one.
Logan Phillips
It's a matter of perspective. Compared to an average Joe, he made a lot of money even though the income wasn't steady. But his lifestyle made him waste it on gambling, whores, payoffs and whatever else. Also he was very frugal.
that dumb bell would be like, 6.5 pounds. wtf christopher?
Julian Nelson
Janice is a fucking beast of nature how is this a dilemma
Andrew Price
Jamie-Lynn DiScala looking fine
Jack Morales
she's got the experience on her side though and will do anything. pimp you out, bitch
Kayden James
>it's CHEAPER to sell the car and get a new one every year Now that's some "bro"-science if I ever heard one, buying a old car for 2,000 dollars from someone reliable that you won't have to do repairs to is way cheaper than buying a new car that devalues the moment you sit in it
Why did they always "lam" it when the fbi are on their case? Can't the fbi just get them as soon as they come back?
Nolan Howard
He had a nice Cadillac though
Matthew Jones
>Drea de Matteo now looks like a meth tweaker Oh, no...
Gabriel Clark
She's at least 20 years younger than the rest of them. That being said Carmella and the 2 to the left of Meadow still look fine. Melfi age like milk.
Landon Davis
>Junior barely changed
Of course he didn't, he was like 68 wehen sopranos started
William Clark
I cant believe he was Daxter
Oliver Hall
Which one is Drea??
Levi Young
All of these Sopranos threads make me want to watch the show again.
Grayson Jenkins
I've seen people get even uglier when old. Even if they looked ok in their 60s-70s.
Gavin Parker
Yes, but it's hardly a foreign luxury car and he could probably get it fixed by a local shop overnight
Gabriel Martin
Nothing. I didn't say nothing
Dominic Long
You WILL have to do repairs on a $2000 car.
A brand new car every year is $2000 and it's very worth it. Driving an actually reliable car removes so much stress, it's a smart-rich move.
Hudson Moore
G A B A G O O L A B A G O O L
Grayson Hughes
I'm watching it on basedstream dot com. Vito just smashed into that guy's car then shot him after he wanted to call the cops. Johnny Sack is in prison yelling about stuff.
Jeremiah Jackson
What if I buy a $200k car?
Thomas Rivera
>A brand new car every year is $2000 and it's very worth it. Driving an actually reliable car removes so much stress You're talking out of your ass
the modern average mobsters brings ~80k a year. that one soldier schmuch from Jersey they caught a couple of years ago was earning 40-50k a year which the feds considered normal for Jersey
John Lee
he looks the same age as Robert Iler
Andrew Wood
He's surprisingly aging really well. Still looks like he's in his early 20's.
Is modern day Italian-American Mafia just a pathetic shadow of what it used to be?
Daniel Brown
Agreed I'm going to marry a smoker
Cameron Jones
yes, but they aren't as dormant or gone like most people believe. they were in their worst shape in the late 90's to mid 00's, basically around the time the show aired.
I think Paulie wants money for moneys sake (except to put his ma up in Green Grove) where it's the principle of the thing. He doesn't have a family besides his mother/aunt who is probably going to die before him, he lives simply, and the underlings pay for all his fancy meals. he'll be leaving a fat wad to somebody or something, hopefully not the church.
Jason Lopez
>Pauline
Logan Martinez
He’s a pasta nigger. Pasta niggers live in filth and dress like shit.
Paulie always had money problems, he didn't earn as good because he wasn't in some top tier shit like Ralphie
Matthew Young
Tony literally explained it in the last season when Barone Sanitation got sold. Paulie has no legit income streams to hide his real money, which he cant use because the IRS. Tony's cover is consultant at Barone. It gives him enough legally shown income to pay for his house, boat, shit like that. Silvio has the Bing.
Paulie had none, except the Barone thing. If he showed any flash or lived above his pay grade at Barone, the IRS would fuck him up.
Dominic Brooks
That KID Tony should have shown him some more respect, he did TWENTY FUCKIN YEEHS.
Matthew Williams
lawyers? (asian lawyers)
Xavier Morris
Any good books about the mob? Seems interesting
Daniel Myers
The Irish did that
James Cox
i've recently bought "Joey the Hitman: The Autobiography of a Mafia Killer" it's basically just about one mafia killer after watching his old tv interviews pretty good watch too desu youtube.com/watch?v=0loaATUFOCY
Colton Jenkins
>chris Oof... white hair...
Xavier Brown
that's unironically one of my favorite books. that one and like Hit 29 or something. It's such a clean look into the life of how they actually grind and make money and shit. All the stuff about running numbers and being a bookie and stuff is dope.
>The Pizza business was so lucrative that they stopped doing illegal stuff and went 100% legal.
I read somewhere that the pizza business has the best profit-vs-cost ratio of any business and I know a guy who I went to school with who was pretty dumb, yet today he owns six or seven Jets pizza joints and is rolling in money.
And you are wasting your time in this shithole lmao.
Easton Jenkins
patrician taste user !
Daniel Allen
The Mafia don't actually make that much money nowadays and are dying out, that was one of the themes of the show.
Jordan Wilson
>Chris getting the shit beaten out of him by three people >Benny joins in >immediately gets fucking flattened by Chris
>gets beaten up by Artie
Jace Davis
Drug dealing is still big money
Nolan Moore
> And you are wasting your time in this shithole lmao.
I’m semi-retired and doing alright but I hadn’t seen the pizza guy since high school and while shooting the shit with him at a party, he told me that after graduating, he had saved some money and got a loan from his parents to start up a landscaping business which he grew into a successful operation that he then sold off to finance the purchase of his first Jets pizza franchise and it took off from there.
Which was pretty surprising to me, as this guy was pretty dumb back in the day but here was driving a new Z-28 with a trophy girlfriend half his age (he told me he was NEVER getting married, as he had too much to lose).
Lucas Bell
Like Artie had any clue what Tony has.
Noah Mitchell
20 days in the ban, not a peep
Tyler Reyes
He struggled alot after he put her in that home tho
Jayden James
That nigger nose on Gab kek
Josiah Powell
In my book, you get points for staying OUT of the can. He didn’t deserve shit!
Ethan Foster
>semi-retired Neetbux doesnt count.
Adam Ortiz
S-so what if I wasn't there? It was the melanzanes I told you!!!!
>legitimate, incredibly high flying, high paying jobs are more financially rewarding than being a low level mob cunt
Imagine my shock
Easton Robinson
Food is really low profit. However, pizza is INCREDIBLY cheap to make. Ridiculously cheap. Especially en masse.
Charge a few dollars for a pizza and you've already made back way, way more than what the pizza cost to make. Proper restaurants make fuck all unless its fine dining with extortionate prices.
Oliver Rivera
Italian
Cooper Phillips
i can't find articles on that are you sure that you're not just mistaking that from her role in nurse jackie?
Nathaniel Thomas
where and how did this particular meme origin from asking for a friend who has a youtube channel
James Sullivan
she talked about it in an interview. she said she'd never hang around the cast after shooting because they'd go off partying and she didn't trust herself being around that stuff
Easton Young
But when it comes to Power the "small shitty crew" has a whole lot more of it than some homo kike lawyer. If he wronged them in some way or got in their way, then they could send someone, someone like Furio could show up at his door and whoop his ass and demand una thousand dollars, and he could demand them every day for years and this fag would pay up everytime because if he doesn't pay they find his bodyparts in 8 different dumpsters. that is real power.