Who made the better 'Nam film, Coppola or Kubrick?

Apocalyps now > Pluton > Full metal jacket > horse cum > Apocalyps now redux.

FMJ is the better 'nam film, Apocalypse Now is the better war film.

I prefer the second half of FMJ over the first although i'm a history gradfag who's got a pretty biased hard-on for it

It won't die as long as plebs exist

Apocalypse Now is a masterpiece. FMJ first half is good while second is total shit. sucky sucky ten dollal.

Is there single greater pleb filter than Full Metal Jacket post bootcamp? Literally everyone who says this is unironcally an npc

how did Kubrick get away with it?

FMJ is the better one
Apocalypse Now is overrated

Apocalypse Now definitely

what are you on about?
Apocalypse Now has almost zero to do with war and is a reskin of Heart of Darkness
AN is the better movie but FMJ is a far better war film.

>apocalypse now doesn't fall apart in the 3rd act

What the fuck am I fucking reading? FMJ falls off in the second half and Apocalypse Now falls off in the last third, both fall off really hard.

Apocalypse Now is the much better Nam film and showed the youth and irresponsibility that lead to public distrust in for vets. It had better jungles, battles, and independent republic life. Full Metal Jacket is best at the bootcamp with R Lee Ermy.

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Kubrick. Apocalypse Now isn't really a 'Nam film", just Heart of Darkness in a period-modern setting.

You might as well call King Kong: Skull Island a Vietnam War film.

For me, it's The Deer Hunter

>Apocalypse Now isn't really a 'Nam film", just Heart of Darkness in a period-modern setting

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not gonna lie i dont like apocalypse now, i found it boring, pretentious and disjointed.

inb4 b8

Pvt. Pyle>anything in Apocalypse Now
but otherwise AN is the better movie

Randall Wallace

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Ironically, since everyone on here says the second half of FMJ is a 'pleb filter', that has also become an NPC opinion.

>say the opposite everyone says and claim everyone else is a pleb
I have never seen one of you retards actually explain why the 2nd half of FMJ is as good as the first, you literally just think that out of pure contrarianism and 100% don't get the movie.

The first arc shows the themes very consicely while still being entertaining, and then everything gets restated but it's less fun.

>better jungles
this is what made FMJ a really good film, it showed the viewer a side that hollywood for one reason or another totally ignored, i.e the city combat, which was pure kino by the way.i recommend watching some footage of the battle of hue.

>its bad b cuz no le funny shouting man!

yikes

This and Platoon

I was expecting this automated reply.
>less fun
See, there's your problem. Go play your computer games if you want ''fun''. Go watch The Dark Avengers: Justice Rises and the Wasp if you want ''fun''. Kubrick is obviously too challenging for your simplistic pedestrian sensibilities.

Neither. Oliver Stone made the best Nam movie, and he fought in it, also.

>Platoon

Forrest Gump is more of a 'nam film than Apocalypse

That movie fucked me up. My name's Nick. That didn't help.

FMJ is okay. The first half is good, everyone enjoys R. Lee Ermey's performance.The 2nd half is little weaker and doesn't stand out as one of the great Vietnam movies. AN is a masterpiece.

Also, are there any great Vietnamese made movies about the Vietnam war?

Apocalyspe now is barely what I would call a 'Nam film

it takes place in it, but after Sheen leaves the city at the beginning, its just the river and than Kurtz' mythical ivory compound

>inb4 someone says Killgores beach napalming is a an accurate representation of the war

>Apocalyspe now
>apocalisp

I died.

why no korean war kinos

This is actually true and I don't think enough people know that. Vietnam was mostly urban and rural warfare, not weird illuminati missions in uninhabited jungles on remote rivers. Most of the fighting and death was amongst the Vietnamese. I've heard something like 3-5 millions of them died. Apocalypse Now is an amazing movie but its not really an accurate representation of what the war was like.

>apocalithp

>dis nigga never saw pork chop hill

Why? It's a great indicator that you can just stop listening and disregard everything that person is ever going to say ever again.

I died even more.

Personally, apart from the sergeant's performance, even the first part is forgetable. Platoon, the Deer Hunter, Apocalypse Now; all these are vastly superior.

>shooting a Vietnam war movie in England
>"perfectionist"

>Second half is less fun
Objectively wrong

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ANYONE WHO RUNS...IS A V.C.

ANYONE WHO STANDS STILL...IS A FMJ is quality flickcore, ApocNow is kino

Its based on Joseph Conrads heart of darkness, about the Belgian atrocities committed against the congolese in the 19th century.

I know. I read it twice and even had a university exam on it. I studied literature. I don't know why you're telling me this. I think you missed the point of my post, reread carefully.

>Belgian atrocities
In fact, there's a real Kurtz, called Klein. He wasn't Belgian, but German, I think, and he adapted to local customs, such as hanging severed heads of your enemies around your base.

Apocalypse Now is a better film but I think it seems not grounded enough to be a good war movie. Full Metal Jacket does a better job with the actual war and military stuff.

That movie is such a 50/50 crapshoot though.
Gibson inventing Air Cav, the stuff on hamburger hill, but everything else is so fucking terrible.
The one that always annoys the shit out of me is how some lady who lives in a pre-civil rights movement america doesn't know what "No Coloreds" hanging in front of a laundromat meant.

this was a GREAT book

too OOHRAH MURRICA when put to film tho

fmj is a flick, apocalypse now is kino

I appreciate its raw look at the reality of Vietnam. A significant portion of an infantryman's time was spent either waiting for orders or fucking around. And when shit hit the fan, it was from an enemy whose numbers or location you couldn't quantify with ease. The second act was a nice change of pace, respect to Kubrick for showing the negative aspects of Vietnam (and conventional warfare in general) that are often overlooked in popular history - like the impact of the U.S. inflated economy in the South and civilians pushing themselves into prostitution to survive. The contrast between the first and second half is a representation of perceived thoughts vs. the reality of the War - for Vietnamese and Americans alike - charged in the boot camp sequence only to be dumped into a world of shit.

>I have never seen one of you retards actually explain why the 2nd half of FMJ is as good as the first
Because I'm so fucking good.
Got me 157 Gooks killed and fifty water buffalo too!
They were all certified.

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I kinda always saw the structure of the tone to be a direct parallel to the war itself
>boot camp is all relatively fun and games
>vietnam feels weird, off putting, nothing like boot camp
>some people don't care for this jarring shift
like the vietnam experience through the eyes of a soldier

thoroughly BTFO

They're both kino

except literally everyone who replied save one guy couldn't manage to give a non-NPC response. which proves my point about 90% of the people saying the 2nd half is better being retards >:)

>some dude starts spouting loads of pretentious pseudo shite
apocalypse now grinds to a fucking halt 3rd act.

>apocalypse now doesn't fall apart in the 3rd act
lol you dumb nigger they literally made a documentary about it falling apart in the third act

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Kubrick was a much better filmmaker, but Apocalypse Now was the better film, HOWEVER, due to the many complications involved with production, and his subpar filmography aside from this film (Yes, including Godfather), its safe to say this was in spite of his ability rather than in support of it. Similar to the war itself, Coppola went in clueless and the disaster that unfolded became immortalized in history.

Apocolypse Now easily

>apocalypse now doesn't fall apart in the 3rd act
OH NO NO NO NO OH NO

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apocalypse now has this kinda dream like feel to it. kinda like how every scenario they come to is a new nightmare.

FMJ is great but i kinda wish the whole film was just about boot camp, if it was then it would of been kino

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For me, its apocalypse now redux. A journey into the heart of darkness. FMJ is amazing though. The Vietnam war is a great setting for a movie, better than WW2 or Iraq imo.

Because Inchon is dogshit