>it was good because it was banal like real life and a realistic portrayal of human relationships camp
or the
>it was bad because it lacked the implication of overarching evil/occultist elements that defined season 1
I firmly believe in the latter, I genuinely feel conned into watching this show. I loved how season 1 left me with questions about what was and wasn't real, it never overtly pointed to, but routinely suggested the surreal. I felt like season 3 teased this idea about how the timelines are more than just memories, with things like Hays in the past 'seeing' shit move when present day Hays was having flashbacks (like the door going ajar) only for it to by a by the numbers mystery in the end. I always felt like true detective was an occult show masquerading as a detective show, but now I feel like season 1 was a one off and it really is just a bland whodunnit mixed in with personal drama.
im in the latter camp. they rose the stakes too high for the simple explanation at the end.
it needed to be some kind of larger pedo cult conspiracy. instead we got "the boy died because he tripped and had an oopsie, and the girl was drugged so she could be the innocent play thing of a well-meaning mentally ill woman"...which hardly justifies the 8 hours of nail biting we did up until that reveal.
Dominic Garcia
no matter what camp you are in, it still can only be considered as unprofessionally boring for tv series, it could better work for a film
John Ross
Agree with both of you. But to be fair I'm pretty sure Pizzaman has repeatedly said that the occult themes of S1 was a one off thing and he wasn't going to repeat that in either of the following seasons, iirc he also denied supernatural elements in S1 but that could just be his way of keeping the mystery afloat, I dunno.
But I'd be lying if I said I wasn't hoping for some occult / subtle lovecraftian reveal at the end, as you said the way the flashbacks were handled and how some of the old Hayes scenes would get definitely fueled that hope, not to mention S1's case being referenced suggesting that it might all be connected or some shit.
Parker Gray
>it was bad because it lacked the implication of overarching evil/occultist elements that defined season 1 It's silly judging something for what it isnt, and doesnt even tries to be. Even if the mistery was lacking, the Hays marriage scenes make the season worthy
Nathaniel Bell
The more I think about it the more I really like it honestly. Excellent season
Ethan Nguyen
My idea for an ending:
Hays' son throws away the paper with Julie's address on it. The daughter, after having witnessed the discussion, picks up the paper because she is intrigued of what it is and decides to check it out. She meets Julie and figures out that she is the missing girl from her father's case. Being the artsy type and her life in California having been a letdown, she decides to stay close to her father and starts writing a book about her parents, their relationship and ultimately the case.
In a way it's happy ending but she gets to stay with her father and he gets his daughter back. But it also strengthens the "curse" the case has on their family because yet again what glues them together is the murder of a little boy and the kidnap of a little girl.
They could even use timejumps to show the future daughter releasing the book and shit and keep that aesthetic going.
way too recursive, just the same fucking fight between hayes and his wife again and again every episode, then the most boring end possible to the mystery with zero payoff
Carter Sanchez
This so much.
Also, they literally didn't do shit for the case, they might as well never worked on it for what they achieved.
Still convinced the only reason s1 was so good was Fukunaga.
Elijah Reyes
I don't like it because I don't watch cop drama to look at people as dumb/average as me.
I'd rather have retards dying fighting for their beliefs even if dumb like in S2 than this sappy shit, I don't care about their marriage honestly, I already have mine.
Also they didn't do shit, they might as well never did the investigation for what they "achieved". But no, I don't think it lacked supernatural shit, that stuff is good once in a while if you repeat yourself it just becomes dumb like X files s7 dumb.
