>it was good because it was banal like real life and a realistic portrayal of human relationships camp
or the
>it was bad because it lacked the implication of overarching evil/occultist elements that defined season 1
I firmly believe in the latter, I genuinely feel conned into watching this show. I loved how season 1 left me with questions about what was and wasn't real, it never overtly pointed to, but routinely suggested the surreal. I felt like season 3 teased this idea about how the timelines are more than just memories, with things like Hays in the past 'seeing' shit move when present day Hays was having flashbacks (like the door going ajar) only for it to by a by the numbers mystery in the end. I always felt like true detective was an occult show masquerading as a detective show, but now I feel like season 1 was a one off and it really is just a bland whodunnit mixed in with personal drama.
im in the latter camp. they rose the stakes too high for the simple explanation at the end.
it needed to be some kind of larger pedo cult conspiracy. instead we got "the boy died because he tripped and had an oopsie, and the girl was drugged so she could be the innocent play thing of a well-meaning mentally ill woman"...which hardly justifies the 8 hours of nail biting we did up until that reveal.
Dominic Garcia
no matter what camp you are in, it still can only be considered as unprofessionally boring for tv series, it could better work for a film
John Ross
Agree with both of you. But to be fair I'm pretty sure Pizzaman has repeatedly said that the occult themes of S1 was a one off thing and he wasn't going to repeat that in either of the following seasons, iirc he also denied supernatural elements in S1 but that could just be his way of keeping the mystery afloat, I dunno.
But I'd be lying if I said I wasn't hoping for some occult / subtle lovecraftian reveal at the end, as you said the way the flashbacks were handled and how some of the old Hayes scenes would get definitely fueled that hope, not to mention S1's case being referenced suggesting that it might all be connected or some shit.
Parker Gray
>it was bad because it lacked the implication of overarching evil/occultist elements that defined season 1 It's silly judging something for what it isnt, and doesnt even tries to be. Even if the mistery was lacking, the Hays marriage scenes make the season worthy
Nathaniel Bell
The more I think about it the more I really like it honestly. Excellent season
Ethan Nguyen
My idea for an ending:
Hays' son throws away the paper with Julie's address on it. The daughter, after having witnessed the discussion, picks up the paper because she is intrigued of what it is and decides to check it out. She meets Julie and figures out that she is the missing girl from her father's case. Being the artsy type and her life in California having been a letdown, she decides to stay close to her father and starts writing a book about her parents, their relationship and ultimately the case.
In a way it's happy ending but she gets to stay with her father and he gets his daughter back. But it also strengthens the "curse" the case has on their family because yet again what glues them together is the murder of a little boy and the kidnap of a little girl.
They could even use timejumps to show the future daughter releasing the book and shit and keep that aesthetic going.
way too recursive, just the same fucking fight between hayes and his wife again and again every episode, then the most boring end possible to the mystery with zero payoff
Carter Sanchez
This so much.
Also, they literally didn't do shit for the case, they might as well never worked on it for what they achieved.
Still convinced the only reason s1 was so good was Fukunaga.
Elijah Reyes
I don't like it because I don't watch cop drama to look at people as dumb/average as me.
I'd rather have retards dying fighting for their beliefs even if dumb like in S2 than this sappy shit, I don't care about their marriage honestly, I already have mine.
Also they didn't do shit, they might as well never did the investigation for what they "achieved". But no, I don't think it lacked supernatural shit, that stuff is good once in a while if you repeat yourself it just becomes dumb like X files s7 dumb.
Ryder Turner
it was very disappointing
Christian Evans
While I would have enjoyed another foray into the occult, it would have been too much of a ripoff of season 1. He tried doing something similar but different in season two, and the result was a clusterfuck that no one liked.
This was pleasant all around.
Adrian Torres
This desu. I wanted at least some pay off, the end was actually very disappointing even though I really enjoyed the season as a whole. The little boy accidentally hitting his head felt like the conclusion to a shit film >inb4 t.pleb Not really, I'm watching a detective show for over 8 hours, it could be much better than that.
Isaac Hill
What was the point of the shot of him in Vietnam at the end?
Lucas Bennett
What was the fucking point in them working over the case at all if it resolved itself thanks to nuns?
Hell they didn't even tell the journalist, at least give the indian and the dad some public rest.
Eli Cooper
I was absolutely disgusted, one of the biggest let downs of any TV or movie I watched with expectations, just really boring uninteresting shit after episode 2.
Xavier Nelson
I mean had they even an ounce of intelligence with a tiny bit of editing could have made the show a decent bit better, cut the amelia ghost speaking to hays, cut hays going to Julie's house, there is the scene where little girl Lucy runs past hays, potentially add in a very subtle other hint somewhere in the final episode so that she's still alive and with Mike, there's 15 mins cut, add in the missing daughter and amelia death scenes and the finale goes from a piece of shit to slightly acceptable
Kevin Ward
You guys hyped yourselves up. I didn't think there was a conspiracy and wasn't shocked or disappointed when I was right. The ending was more like an epilogue for me since I already knew what happened.
Bentley Nguyen
A mundane resolution only really works as some sort of social commentary in a movie. You can't keep your audience on the hook for seven weeks and then expect them to be satisfied with this shit. At least the magic cave was fantastical.
Jaxon Williams
mad how people on here has basically sussed 90% of the case out by like the 2nd or 3rd episode
Nicholas White
wow ur super smart how can i be like u
Landon Mitchell
the teenagers on Yea Forums are like the reporter in the show thinking the case was more than it was, parroting wild conspiracy theories and brooding over the hope of seeing child sex rings and hays going all vietnam hoorah shooting everything, fuck you guys are ridiculous, the character development and overarching theme in this season was pretty kino
Nolan Thomas
I know I'm forgetting a few things, but >significance of the dolls >"ghosts" following Julie and Will >what was the deal with Becca Also S3 is pretty good, mainly because of the acting chops of basically everyone, but the plot and some plotlines would definitely deserve more polish and screen time. Kinda disappointing tbqh
Connor Nguyen
This is a valid point as well. But, me and some other anons already guessed it wasn't pedoshit when they all but confirmed the kid died by an accident with the autopsy.
Noah Moore
>it was good because it was banal like real life and a realistic portrayal of human relationships It wasn't. The character dynamics were terrible except that between Hays and Roland, they went through no character development whatsoever, and Pizzolatto's dialogues are notoriously bad. Everything happening between the characters felt repetitive and done to exhaustion, nothing feels human or real about it.
I didn't need "evil/occultist elements", that's stereotyping people who disliked the ending as simply wanting some Lovecraftian twist, and that's not true. It's just that Nic is a bad writer, and he's not saying anything meaningful about the themes he's clumsily trying to explore.
Aaron Taylor
Yeah, let's just watch a senile old fart stumbling its way around a cold case where all the responsible people never paid for it(except ginger guy) until the case solves itself.
Connor Ward
In fairness, it's more likely that Isabelle killed the boy outright, and one-eye was just remembering it like an accident. Seeing the situation in good-faith.
Honestly, my only real gripe is how one-eye just exposes the whole thing, which kinda kills the thrill of putting the pieces together ourselves. It also makes the detectives seem really dumb for not putting some of those pieces together already.
Ayden Rodriguez
God you're a fucking idiot and i hate idiots like you for perpetuating the "s1 was ambiguous supernatural" bullshit. Everything that happened could be explained or infered by information given to you in the show. Just because you lack the ability to think comprehensively doesn't mean something is "ambiguous" or left to your own interpretation. Fuckheads like you have completely fucked any kind of td discussion since s1. Yes fuck you im pissed.
>watch 8 hours worth of tv >both seasons arguably had decent detective work and at the very least gave you a conclusion that was fitting of tv >watch third season, expectations high because of the promise it'll be similar to the 1st >Detective forgets what he was doing in the last 10m, missing boy tripped and offed himself, daughter was a junkie. Honestly if I wanted to see this shit I'd just go look at old case files.
Juan Baker
Why did Henry keep Julie's address? Is he gonna BLACK her too?
Liam Sullivan
Either he finally got lost in his dimentia (he disappears into the woods) or he never left the jungle and that's why he is obsessing over this case, because he was always on mission.
Hudson Campbell
>teenagers lol he thinks watching true detective for the couple fights makes him a big boy
Nicholas Hughes
i don't think it justified being 8 episodes long
if the same story was told in like 4 or 5 episodes without epic cliffhangers and red herrings everywhere to "keep the audience interested" i would have enjoyed it more
i knew not to get my hopes up about all the surreal shit after s1 so i enjoyed it but i wasn't blown away by it
Julian Baker
Where were the masons?
They were in the intros but not in the show.
Killed everything about it for me.
Carson Reed
>People watch fucking HBO for a disappointing end to some shit case that taken as a whole was totally fucking retarded. I am not entertained.
Jonathan Brooks
so one of the main flaws of s2 was that it was nowhere near sinister enough (the crime was fucking prostitution like I give a fuck) and they decide to do it again? Great job retards.
Jace Ward
>the one eyed guy literally comes to the book signing and loses his shit publicly >nobody follows it up wait what, this is complete nonsense, this guy was a suspect and he shows up at an event about the case and shouts crazily about how 'nobody knows the facts of the case its all lies' and they just forget it and move on
Evan Evans
the crime is literally an accidental death and you have this maniac ex-cop killing someone to cover it up, then he would rather fucking die then reveal any information about it like shit dude calm down
Eli Ross
The show didn't need an occult or pedo cult or any of that nonsense.
What would have served would have been a simple murderer/kidnapper overarching plot with a real investigation, real fuck-ups, real overturned conviction ala Memphis Three, and a real fucking crime case.
Instead, no, Pizza can't deliver because ultimately Pizza doesn't seem to give a fuck about delivering a true crime case.
Angel Martin
fpbp. i'm actually impressed at how succinct yet sufficient this explanation is. I'm probably gonna steal it.
Jacob Bell
SUBVERTED
Anthony Thomas
amelia literally brings it up the next time she meets wayne. she didn't get a name what was she suppose to do.
Sebastian Ramirez
>Guy mows the lawn AT A CHURCH for decades with his entire family consisting of lawn-mowers >Nobody gives a shit >Rust mows ONE LAWN >Everyone loses it
Aaron Garcia
>book is randomly opened on the right page twice to help advance plot >Tom overhears cops saying something twice to help to advance plot >Junius and Dan O'Brien pop up out of nowhere to help advence plot bravo Pizza
> not to mention S1's case being referenced suggesting that it might all be connected or some shit.
this is what pissed me off the most, that putting that reference in for it go ABSOLUTELY NOWHERE was very clearly a "fuck you" to the audience, and I'm not sure if i should blame Pizzaman or someone else at HBO.
but fuck them
James Walker
FUCK MANCHILDREN CULT PLOTLINES
Jeremiah Carter
It didn't need to be an occult/pedo ring but it did need more than what we got. I almost fell asleep in my chair listening to that guy explain the entire plot.
I don't think I could rewatch this season knowing they're just fucking around for 7 episodes.
Dylan Anderson
I just don't get the Nam flashback right at the end.
Jaxson Perry
I think we've summed it up nicely here, they built expectations too high for too long and then to just hurriedly explain it all with an 2 exposition dumps in the final episode not worthy of our wait
Samuel Green
The first episode had a big nod to Lovecraft with "The Forest of Leng" D&D book. It was a bit frustrating to notice that at the beginning, but have it not go occult in the end.
That said, I did enjoy the ending overall and was quite fine with it being a bit on the tamer side. I kinda appreciate that they didn't try to shove it all in at the last second. I felt it ended a lot better then Season 2, which is about all I was hoping for.
Jacob's Ladder. None of it happened. He's dying somewhere in 'Nam and imagining his life and what could have been. The conversation with the trash guy is about accepting death--Hays is too chickenshit to let go and keeps playing out this fake life of his, until the end.
Luis Foster
no idea why they didnt just do a west memphis 3, then you would have a reason for the documentary crew and the breakdown of the detectives would make a lot more sense as they come to terms with ruining a bunch of kids lives
Jack Collins
>Roland wants to shoot fox in episode 1 >Roland hugs a dog in episode 8 fuck bros i love character development
Tyler Wilson
Isn't that the point though? The stakes feel raised to Purple too, which is why he focuses on this case so much that he kidnaps, tortures, murders a man, loses his job, his friend, and almost his wife... only to find out it's a weird but relatively low-stakes situation. The audience gets wrapped up in the case the same way Purple does, only for him(and the audience) to find out it wasn't really worth it.
My problem was really just the contrived plot advancements and old one-eye explaining everything at the end.
Hunter Nguyen
OMG REDDIT CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT SOMEONE ARBITRARY CHANGED TO GIVE THE ILLUSION OF A PLOT IM LITERALLY SHAKING
Josiah Murphy
It took 25 years to resolve the case just because Purple Hays choose to doing things solo.
He always choose to doing things alone, he would die just for his mama to be rich if he died in Nam, he was recon just to do his own thing, he never shared his true feelings about the case with Roland, he never read the book of his wife.
Purple Hays was the ultimate incel.
Gavin Phillips
In response to another user from the last thread Not that user but here. >Then what did he see that made him say "Julie?". The drawings on the wall. As an user stated he was seen looking at his daughters drawings before, and he already had the suspicion that the people in the house were involved. >Blatant contradictions in a supposed explanation/solution aren't 'irrelevant'. It's not legitimate to lie to the audience and then wonder why they don't get it. Boy bike thing is a little convoluted but essentially the boy goes long to watch after his sister when shes playing, he prob got bored and rode his bike around for 10m and met the teenage boys, then he comes back bikeless to play with Lucy. >Her name wasn't on the wall dumbass. It doesnt have to be. >There's a difference between separation within a range where you can be found, and riding your bike out of the woods to an area full of people, when the other people playing aren't even on bikes Kid rode his bike out and came back bikeless before the game started.
William Sanders
This. Except unable to just let go of the case and live his life. Haunted by all the things he's seen and people he's killed.
Mason Carter
Season 3 was whelming.
James Cruz
imagine writing this and feeling like you nailed it. >let me just imagine what my life could've been man, damn imagine if i got dementia and my partner was more interesting than me and shit.. maybe i wasted 30 years of my life on a case
James Rodriguez
Maybe. Doesn't feel like there is a lot of evidence supporting that theory and it doesn't add much to the story imo.
Landon Smith
>you fucking ruined my career with your selfish behavior, twelve years of my life went down the drain and you don't even apologize, get out of my life >are you sure? >No. Will you marry me? omg bros it's so HUMAN it's about LIFE and RELATIONSHIPS i love it
It didn't need to be a big pedo cult but it had to be better than heh the boy just falled and then we took the girl :)
and the "twist" of Julie being alive.. who honestly cares at that stage?
Colton Wright
S1 did a masterful job of drawing you in with the first episode and maintaining the suspense throughout the season. Was there a scene in S3 that is comparable with this one: youtube.com/watch?v=2ZGiXe76g9A or youtube.com/watch?v=2ZGiXe76g9A I don't think that Pizza really knows why S1 was so good. S2 and S3 feel like he was only trying to recreate superficial elements from S1, but missing the bigger picture of why it was good.
Xavier Long
He's clearly autistic--he wasn't coming up with fantasy make-believe in his mindstate, instead he was crafting a realistic (True) narrative of him as police (Detective), just like a lone reconnaissance scout would.
Samuel Murphy
this was just badly written and directed. it could be a netflix show. it really puts season 2 in perspective.
Matthew Wright
There was no fucking climax.
Cooper Jenkins
pizza not knowing why people liked season 1 makes so much sense
Nicholas Sanchez
Without plagiarizing Ligotti and having Cary Fukunaga around to fix his mess, Nic is mediocre. Pizzaman is just not a good writer.
I said this a hundred times but I will repeat it, S1 had the advantage of having a great directors working on ALL the episodes from start to end, giving it the fidelity and quality he actually wanted.
A big deal of why s1 is so good is because Fukunaga is very good with visuals, go watch Beasts of no Nation and you'll see.
Gabriel Cooper
You’re such a moron, season 1 isn’t so much occult or supernatural as it is slightly surreal. I don’t want to watch Harry Potter, I don’t need magic to be entertained.
What I meant is that at the end of True detective I got this feeling that you sometimes get from a show like the twilight zone, not that anything specifically supernatural had happened, but that the show had made subtle nods to that. Thematically it occupied a very unique space between supernatural and realistic. That’s what made it so good, it’s that it was always hinted at. I didn’t want season 3 to have fucking ghosts in it (though paradoxically we basically got fucking ghosts) I wanted it to have a little bit more of that powerful sense of doom or dread that season 1 had.
That feeling that evil is itself a force manifested by the actions of humans, that we create the devil. That everything is interconnected. That shit makes the story compelling and it sucks you in far more than some whodunnit with a memory problem twist.
There was a lot of potential here but all we got was gone baby gone 2.0
Asher Murphy
>guy is dying in the 70s >able to accurately hallucinate about real future car models and cellphones Man, they should harness the power of people dying in wars to predict the future
Noah Nelson
So what was the point of having this D&D book? It doesnt even exist irl, and real D&D books of the time didnt have TSR inc on it.
Colton Cruz
COME ON SKEEEEEEEUUUP NOW YA CANT TELL ME THAT LUCY PUHCELL JUST RUNNIN OFF TO VEGAS WITH A BAG OF MONEY DONT RING NO ALARM BELLS
I assumed it was more of an allusion to how Hays could never get out of his "fake life" that was the Purcell Case. Like he could never escape the need for answers and the imagined conspiracy surrounding it. Not that he's literally dying in nam, that'd just be a lazy cop out.
John Smith
To subvert your expectations.
Hudson Hall
They had already put it off on Woodard Shannon
Brayden Wilson
YES. THANK YOU
Ian Adams
The kids were playing DnD in the forest you retards. It was just a reference to S1 which threw everyone on the lovecraft scent, despite just tying in with the satanic panic theme of the season. Wayne says that Amelia wrote about people being concerned over the game the kids were playing in the woods, as happened in real life with the satanic panic where people thought nerds playing DnD were worshiping satan
Hunter Butler
It's literally just a decoration to show that the boy liked imagination and games. Why are you acting like background items are pivotal parts of the plot?
SO why not use a real D&D book from the time? WHy pay an artist to make up a fake cover and fake title?
William Martin
>doesnt even tries to be. If does a bit though. Think about the first couple episodes, how they find the creepy doll, and the boy arranged like he was part of a ritual. It's deliberately suggestive. Even if you don't go all moon autism the occult theming is still present, it just leads nowhere. It was deliberate, and for those of us who really liked s1 for that stuff, a disappointment.
Elijah Martin
>"solves" the mystery >30 minutes left on the runtime >Roland looks into the camera >"You know what partner? I really don't feel a sense of closure!"
I literally turned it off, deleted my HBO subscription and sent a dogshit in a parcel to the HBO headquarters at that point.
Either to prevent mongs like you from creating connections with the book's narrative and the show, or more simply because of copyright issues.
Tyler Ross
nailed it. 100%. also, season 1, and i'm not trying to be sexist, was a fucking MAN show. about BEING a fucking man, the bad and the good, consequences of being an asshole, the obligation of being one, the soul crushing pain of growing old and fucking up, the whole thing. god damn it, we're not gonna get another one as good, are we?
Andrew Martin
Well I guess you missed the fact that Julie is still alive
Henry Long
Yeah, what the FUCK was he thinking? For a mental girl at that.
Aaron Garcia
In Nam? Yeah
Ryan Wood
LOL at people being mad at the finale. As soon as I saw the lead was black, I never picked it up. Use your head next time.
Jason Murphy
makes absolutely no sense to me why harris would rather get beaten to death to keep this thing covered up
Christopher Ward
>"I really don't feel a sense of closure!" He's really just referring to how it ended up being mundane. Not bombastic ending to their multi-decade mystery.
You did miss the awful moment with Hay's wifes ghost shoehorning in 30 more minutes of garbage tho, so you probably made the right choice.
Gavin King
>I wanted it to have a little bit more of that powerful sense of doom or dread that season 1 had. This, tbqdesu. Season 1 had an unsettling atmosphere. Anything truly, unambiguously supernatural would probably have ruined it. The culty beliefs of the people (who had political power and were basically above the law) was weird and creepy enough.
Brayden Wright
I do honestly think Nic forcing himself to write female characters is absolutely wrecking him. He does not know how to write a female character and he should literally just give up. Let him focus on writing male characters because he’s actually very good at it, some people aren’t good at certain things. True detective is ultimately a niche show (only like 2 million viewers) it is perfectly reasonable for them to focus entirely on male audience.
This shit is just garbage, even my mum and sister hated Amelia, they’d make me fast forward all her long raspy monologues. Women don’t like his women, and men don’t like his women. Stop writing women nic.
Zachary Martinez
Nah we (us who didn't scroll on instagram during the finale) figured that out when he ran onto a girl named after the fucking mother, and who also looked exactly like Julie and her dad was wearing a shirt that very visibly said MIKE. Reading how many details people missed make me more mad than how bad the season was
Parker Adams
Of a seizure, I mean, that was supposed to close the cicle and he died, right?
Christian Ward
>Well we got an ending, I guess My thoughts exactly
Kevin Green
character did have a lotta loylety for a hired gun
Connor Foster
Wut
Carter Smith
It's not bad because it ultimately emphasized the characters over the mystery, it's bad because no one gives a fuck about these characters. Hays and Amelia's scenes were boring as fuck and you never see any development through the show. Wayne is essentially the same person at 70 that he was at 30. Roland is funny sometimes but the only depth he has is hugging a dog because some dude died? lol.
I'm mad because there was so much potential. Combining a murder case with memory loss gave pizza so many interesting directions to go but none were utilized. The half baked themes of tragedy echoing through time really could have been something. Also half of the season you already know what the characters are gonna find out. There's so surprise in either the case nor is there any intrigue in these peoples' relationships with each other. Watch the first episode again (Which was directed by Sauliner who pizza kicked off the show) and see how much potential there is for either a study of memory, dementia and tragedy. Or rather see the potential for a great mystery story, with tons of different pieces that could come together. See that and then realize pizza is a hack who couldn't do an even decent job at either of them. Shits ass.
Matthew Rivera
Ditto, I realized today that the show has always been more focused on the detectives than the case itself. Yea Forums loses their shit because all their insane theories don’t pan out
Dominic Brown
>chapter 1 Hays sits to read Amelia's book. >Hays: "well time to finally read this" >Roll credits >Season Ends
Liam Phillips
>it's bad because no one gives a fuck about these characters. Rolland is now my second favourite character after Rust, even above Marty.
Hayes just wasn't very interesting as a main.
Alexander Brooks
>Yea Forums loses their shit because all their insane theories don’t pan out Can you please stop repeating this dumb shit? S1 ended without confirming any theory and people still loved it.
Grayson Rogers
I got the impression that he died with that last flashback so he couldn't remenber about Purcell's location ever again
This season was fucking dogshit. All the writers should be fired and never let near a script again. The actors did the best with what they had which was fucking nothing. In the end the TRUE DETECTIVE was his wife and the moral of the story is listen to women and don't ignore them.
Evan Williams
>open true detective thread >"oh yes ~ fukuna--" >nope >close thread why are the fans like this
Levi Lewis
i was reminded of this when hayes said that shit about rape, or roland insulting the biker couple. that shit is gold. also, the line about a story repeating itself and healing its good. someone talented has to pick on pizza's brain or season 4 its gonna suck so fucking hard
Kevin Adams
> ended without confirming any theory and people still loved it. Complete and total bullshit, people complained then and now about everything after 1995. Go back, explorer
Bentley Barnes
I liked it, but I didn't think it was banal. The three timelines thing could be seen as a gimmick, but I think they pulled it off convincingly enough to show some good character development. The acting of Ali and Dorff gave some surprisingly emotional moments and it felt like they found some closure to this thing that had consumed and changed both of their lives for over thirty years (despite the characters saying otherwise after finding the pink room and Junius).
Elijah Russell
>S1 ended without confirming any theory and people still loved it. Confirmed didn't browse Yea Forums during S1, there was shitposting for months after that finale, almost everyone was disappointed. It was only after S2 turned out to be so shit people thought "well I guess S1's finale wasn't THAT bad".
Nathan Martinez
the whole thing its the definition of banality. its nothing. its really nothing. i've heard way better stories in real life, why the fuck would i want to invest 8 hours on this boring shit
Zachary Jenkins
I genuinely liked the finale, maybe it's because I know what it's like to commit fully to a passionate yet toxic relationship that probably isn't exactly healthy. The scene with the Hoyt father was cool too.
I also really liked the final scenes with Roland and Hays.
Also it seemed to me that Hays remembers why he's at the house at the end when he's in the middle of drinking that water, anyone else notice that? Great acting from everyone involved desu.
8/10 season as far as i'm concerned it really ramps up in the second half. Staying interesting after letting the season be spoiled weeks ago was an achievement if you ask me.
season 1 its one of the best things ever made, thats a fact,what the fuck are you on about
Dominic Hill
I guess. I thought Roland's actor wasn't special. I got the sense that I knew marty, I had a sense of his shortcomings and his desires. Roland is just a dude who's there and people like just him because he delivers 'epic XD' lines sometimes.
Yes it is, yet everyone still shit all over the final episode when it aired because it was such a disappointment to all the retarded theory niggers.
Gabriel Cooper
>Roland is just a dude who's there yeah i dont get why they didnt flesh him out more, why did he have a breakdown, because he thought he pushed that guy to suicide?
Liam Turner
blame your autism on not getting subtlety or charisma man, that guy acted really good
Gabriel Hernandez
I thought it was a metaphor for Hays going deeper into Alzheimers, he's lost in a jungle with unknown danger all around
Cameron Johnson
No dipshit, because he just shot and killed a man. Were you even watching?
Henry Parker
He flat out murdered a dude. Probably cracking under anxiety.
Ryder Barnes
TD is the prequel to Bohemian Rhapsody?
Nolan Smith
Because Ali and Dorff gave us some stellar scenes. The porch scene and old man Hayes and West finally solving a mystery they worked on for years were good moments. It was something simple, and they almost had it figured out until their mistakes and a dickhead AG ended the investigation. I dunno, I liked that Pizza went for a relatively happy ending and there were no vast conspiracies that went beyond the characters actually introduced. Sometimes simple is best, after seeing how S2 went wrong and turned into camp.
Samuel Thomas
Ngl, I miss Hays And Roland already. I'm sure they'll grab beers and go to ball games in their last years.
Owen James
That was because they accidentally released one production photo that basically spoiled the whole story
Samuel Fisher
>Nah we (us who didn't scroll on instagram during the finale) figured that out when he ran onto a girl named after the fucking mother We figured that out two weeks ago, slowbro
He didn't want to get beaten to death, he was going to try and kill them because he was going to be fucked either way based on his involvement
Ayden Hall
Don't forget Roland running into both Julie's secret husband AND daughter at the same time at the covenant
Christopher James
all im saying is dont give me this if i want to watch true detective. it may not be a franchise, but the reason people watches this shit its because of what they expect to see. its just as bad as someone going to see capeshit and getting pissed at it because its not a drama.
Thomas Myers
season 2 gave us some "stellar" scenes too, a lot more than this one, and its still very bad
Ian James
Im in the It was a good ending camp of people. but overrall the show was really a swing and a miss. carried by strong performances. better characterizations. but to focus so much on the case and all the red herrings for all that payoff? whats the point? they didnt even show amelia dying? I mean if that was the goal all along. they could have shown tons more to actually make the season more enjoyable. coulda done some purple hayes and roland cleaning up the streets episodes. maybe they are there for the explosion of crack and crime epidemics. maybe a few girls go missing that are getting pimped out by some niggers or mexicans and they rescue them. maybe hayes and his son bust some skulls or hayes helps his son out on a case. and you could have punctuated this show with results or action or development in all the episodes instead of wasting tons of time with something that could have taken 5 minutes to drop.
even the happy ending wasnt that redemptive. it could have been done better. coulda had more hayes and roland buddy buddy stuff, more bbq and kids time instead of roland just wasting his life over nothing and being secretly covetous of hayes family.
I mean the whole macguffin thing has gone to far. Lost, twin peaks, the leftovers. all that shit "its about the journey, not the destination" bullshit. well then have a journey. quit making the entire fucking journey nothing but characters talking about the destination and all the road signs leading there. if its about the journey then make the journey actually enjoyable.
great performances all around. good writing. good ending. weak overall season that I wont rewatch. there' no point in going through that slog ever again.
I have a whole new respect for season 2 now. the writing may not have been better but the dialogue and actual shit happening made it bearable. this season I cant think of one standout beyond ali's performance making it worth watching again.
It's Pizza's show. Just because the first two seasons did the deep conspiracy angle doesn't mean every season has to. I thought some parts were a little boring and it wasn't perfect, but the more I think about it the more I adore the high points and the idea overall. The final episode was one of the best, and not really because of the mystery being revealed. The exposition dump was the most disappointing part.
Asher Gray
It really didn't. I don't remember anything as affecting as the best scenes of S3. S2 is pure camp and ambition outpacing good ideas.
Angel Howard
really dude? as in you ENJOYED the couple arguing scenes?
Ryder Smith
Sooooo fucking agreed. Season 2 really wasn't that bad.
Lincoln Long
Pizza is a Yea Forums regular and made S2 just so he could create Vinceposting
Angel Roberts
The ones in the final episode were pretty good, actually. Overall there were too many of them and the earlier mid-season ones were tedious.
you figured out she was alive and didn't actually die of aids - like you were just told in ep 8 - by going onto IMDB to see what Mike's last name was? brilliant, just amazing. fucking retard.
Brandon Kelly
>hey look, creepy dolls >hey look, a dead boy in a strange praying pose >hey look, the people at this church have their photos in this same pose >hey look, a peephole and a drug addicted potentially pedophile uncle >hey look, a suspect in this child abduction/murder case operates a foundation for orphans and is ultra wealthy >hey look, allusions of a corrupt district attorney and planted evidence - perhaps there is a connection between this corrupt law enforcement and the really really rich guy who has a foundation for orphans >hey look, this white girl is asking about a pedophile ring and seems to have more information about the case than she leads on
>hey look, everything was actually a red herring and the actual explanation is so simple that everyone would dismiss it if it were presented as a theory because of how simplistic it is haha pizzaman did this intentionally to show how people will misrepresent facts and evidence and make false connections to what they want to believe is true but in actuality the truth is that everything is plain jane boring with no rhyme or reason did you learn your lesson yet buddy
if D&D made this finale the one eyed man would be fucking a whore while delivering the exposition >come back and punish me! make me pay the iron price!
Easton Scott
The entire plot of the fucking series got laid out in a 5 minute monologue from the one-eyed nigger and the story was given a fairytale ending instead of just hinting towards her still being alive
The acting was god-tier but the we've been rused pretty hard.
Ryan Nelson
I think it was shit because we literally had the one eyed negro exposition the fuck out of us and why did they leave him in 90s when it was obvious he was hiding something?
Mason Gonzalez
they never encountered him in the 90s
Samuel Lopez
I told my roommate after we finished ep7 that i would be so pissed off if the finale ended up just being Hoyt explaining the whole case in 5 minutes. The only part i got wrong was that it was Junius that explained. Pizza míght as well just have turned a gopro on himself and told us the explanation, it would have been about as gripping as this disgusting piece of dog shit we got.
I enjoyed the season but this finale pretty much ruined it for me, i honestly think season 2 is a more satisfying experience as a whole than s3. A skilled editor could probably cut this season down to 4 episodes and make it a much better show.
All the Amelia crap felt wasted. Two arguments throughout the season could have sufficed for showing that the case was eating their lives, but no let's just have it eat half the screen time every episode
Nathan Thomas
>Main characters have absolutely zero impact on the story >Oh user, it was all about the pointless struggle to find the truth, the truth that the crime in question didn't even happen.
What does pizza man have against landscaping anyway? Is the lack of lawncare why season 2 failed?
Jose Russell
>Holy shit, is this the actual outline of the plot? No?
Alexander Brooks
>why wasn't a pedophile cult that summoned a giant lovecraftian child rapping monster behind the murder
You are all children, go back to watching stranger things or whatever.
Colton Ward
Weird thing is, I just watched Kingpin with woody harrelson and there is a scene where his character punches randy quaids character and he says “never mow another mans lawn!”
Josiah Hall
Junius might be Hays. Julie is Becca, both missing until the final episode. Junius missing an eye, the camera panning into (admittedly the wrong one but still) one of Hays' eyes. Junius loses Julie after helping her escape. Hays asks Becca in the car if he lost her. Junius wants to be judged for his sins, but Roland and Hays walks out and leaves it in the past. Hays is forgiven by Roland and Becca and they all leave it in the past. However, as we're shown in the final scene. Even with his condition, Hays still has to live with what he did in nam, just as Junius has to live with what he's done.
Carter Bell
>Actors Elijah Wood and Corey Feldman >Place Portugal+Haiti+Belgium+USA >Year 1996 to 2019 >Mystery Interpol agents investigate an international human trafficking ring and accomplish absolutely nothing
>Bill Skarsgård as a fresh new detective and Adrien Brody as the bored senior detective >Alaska >late 80's, 2 timelines are only a couple years apart and take place before and after a major plot event that shook the detectives views on everything >something similar to the Gary Mathias dissapearance, starts off seeming like a strange but standard dissapearance case but Skarsgård is insistant there is something more to it
Throw in some vague paranormal stuff and some legend about skinwalkers or some shit. I want this season to take the surreal stuff to the next level.
>NO FUCKING WOMEN
Joseph Morris
Neither. It was bad for other reasons than "it lacked the implication of overarching evil/occultist elements that defined season 1".
Blake Barnes
I said it in another thread. Pizza is a great writer, but he HAS to learn how to translate ideas into scripts. If S3 had been a book I'd be very sucked in and satisfied with the ending. A lot of Southern Gothic novels read just like the way Season 3 developed, and you're left with awesome mind-snacks to chew on after. I got that same feeling from this season. I like thinking about all the concepts and characters, and I was absolutely touched by and miss the them already. But yes, it didn't immediately satisfy the lust for something more interesting for the medium in which it was presented. It'll age well though. Just hope someone can actually talk Nic into writing scripts, not novels. I'm desperate to see more of his ideas, but I want to see them more fit for tv/film. I'd love to see him do a project with Jeff Nichols (Mud, Take Shelter, Midnight Special). Nichols has similar ideas but he knows how to translate them into script.
>no clue >Pacific Northwest >1990s/2000s >Missing 411 type disappearances That or just make it about pizzagate
Michael Powell
in regards to s4 also no women, or bare minimum screen time if at all, like said
Lincoln Kelly
>Tye Sheridan >Josh Holloway >Maybe someone a lot older like Clarke Peters >Coastal North Carolina/Virginia >current time, no time skips >Plot backdrop of slaveship history/urban legends of ghosts and superstitions (TONS of that shit in NC) Not sure what the initial crime would be to instigate the big investigation, but that's a start. I just wanna see Sawyer being a badass again bros :(
Loved it. What the Mr. June explained is what everyone already surmised from the previous 4 episodes.
Carson Scott
I thought it was boring, and I hate using that word as a descriptive, but god damn if its not the most accurate thing that comes to mind. It felt like they were playing it safe, and True Detective should NEVER play anything safe. The character development was good, but besides that, it was a by the books cop drama. Overall id say it was easily the weakest of the 3 seasons.
Michael Diaz
>the season was banal like real life and lacked evil
bud,
>whore wife and degenerate brother in law sell my kid to a schizophrenic bitch >schizophrenic bitch accidentally kills my other kid >harris james ends the investigation by planting evidence on a based patriot defending his property >schizophrenic bitch doses julie and tells her that I was the bad guy for a decade >my own brainwashed daughter tells the cops the keep me away from her >loses my only friend, lieutenant west-kun >break down and become my own True Detective, only for harris james to rape and murder me >framed in the public record as the killer of my own kids >some stupid bitch is gonna air a clickbait tv documentary about my tragedy for the masses and might push a theory that I took part in selling my kids, and not just to a schizophrenic rich lady, but to child rapers
if it was as safe as you claim there wouldn't be the reaction to it, would there
what would have been safe is redoing season 1. neither s2 or s3 do this
Camden Bennett
I unironically loved it, loved Hays and Roland's dynamic especially. I did dislike Hays and Amelia doing their shit for an entire season, but for some reason I really liked them in this episode. I wasn't expecting much in the mystery department given the last two, so I mainly focused on the character relationships. fuck i'll say it bar scene in the end was kino
Jason Howard
>Actors Karl Urban Patrick Wilson
>Place Central Nevada
>Year 1994
>Mystery While camping, a group of teens go missing in the mountains of Nevada. Among them is the daughter of a politician. The investigation hints towards something mysterious happening deep in the abandoned gold mines. A local drunk swears it's aliens, others believe it's reptilians, others believe it's a secret government facility. The investigation seems to be hindered by outside forces with the true detectives going against their orders to trek deep into the mountains to find the teens.
youtu.be/yCy8iWxf1Us Watch that video and listen to the audio towards the end. There's a rush of cold air and the sound of a woman speaking over an intercom. I believe it's automated, triggered by a motion sensor, to deter explorers from venturing too far into the mountain for ***some*** reason.
Wyatt Murphy
>>some stupid bitch is gonna air a clickbait tv documentary about my tragedy for the masses and might push a theory that I took part in selling my kids, and not just to a schizophrenic rich lady, but to child rapers that's the worst fucking part man, holy shit. was the director bitch pizzaman's commentary on the moron's who try to come up with dumb theories
Nolan Martin
He and Roland were the best thing about the series.
Jose Powell
it was pure unadulterated kino
Luke Bell
So Fargo Season 2
Jaxon Rogers
Time is a flat circle
Gabriel Cox
Teasing the next project, "True Soldier"
Blake Gomez
I thought it was great
Michael Carter
>Are you in the: >>it was good because it was banal like real life and a realistic portrayal of human relationships camp >or the >>it was bad because it lacked the implication of overarching evil/occultist elements that defined season 1 Those aren't the only options. I don't care about any occult shit, I just didn't like the season cause it was boring. His wife is one of the worst characters I've seen on a tv show and half the scenes were of him arguing with her about nothing.
Charles Mitchell
It was terrible and the ending was lifted straight from The Pledge only instead of a random car crash, it was amnesia
Dominic Gomez
>I want muh straight storytelling and muh mysteries! This season was a big fuck you to retards like you. Go watch your shitty GoT next time lmao
Lucas Bennett
Are you simple or something? The picture is from episode 6. The boy that had a childhood crush on Julie was working at the convent she would have been staying, and we knew from the girl Amelia spoke to that she ended up leaving. So we knew that Mike found and rescued her. Retard.
Carter Collins
>jake gyllenhall >mads mikkelsen
>austria
>1970
>occultist mossad members kidnapping the heirs of nazi soldiers
Owen Campbell
Despite the fact that he's surrounded by family and friend, deep inside he's still on his own, wandering lost in the abyss of his memory.
Dylan Garcia
Fuck it, I'll bump:
>Peter Sarsgaard and Adam Beach >Somewhere near an Indian Reservation in the Northwest >Early 1980s-Late 1990s >A disappearance of native women along the backroads near an Indian Reservation leads the detectives to chase a killer in lieu of the Green River Killer. But halfway through the show they find out he is not the only killer and that there is someone doing rituals and sacrifices along the backroads and there is a supernatural element to it via native american superstitious about the woods that Adam Beach tends to elaborate here and there.
Henry Allen
So wind river
Nathaniel Harris
I thoroughly enjoyed it and genuinely place it above Season 1.
Levi Howard
That's an interesting perspective. Didn't think of it that way, but you're right.
It's like Purple spent his whole life on this case, and then couldn't even conclude it because of dementia. Not worth it in the end.
Ethan Price
I don't think PIzzaman understands what people liked about the first season.
Bentley Nguyen
>and then couldn't even conclude it because of dementia. I like to believe that he came to for a moment when he was drinking the water and concluded the case and let it go.
Nathan Ortiz
The dolls were a gift from the one eyed negro to the kids. The ghosts were fake mommy and the negro watching the kids trick or treat. It ain’t that deep bro.
Chase Robinson
Also this probably has been mentioned in a lot of threads and might be a dumb question but I literally just finished the show so I'll ask here
Purple's wife knew that Julie was still alive right? His wife went to the convent and spoke to the nuns long before Purple ever did, I'm assuming she figured it out and kept it quiet to protect Julie
Joseph Baker
I liked when Roland said
>My man Purple Hays
It really felt like true friendship, wish I could have a friend like Roland. Like some other user said, this season should have named True Friendship and Roland as the main man.
Jayden Clark
She didn't figure out shit. She would have known that Julie left the convent based on her interview, but she never would have gotten the aids story to begin with. Which is funny, because she knew the alias and the alias apparently had the fake grave there, but no one told her even once she knew she was looking for "Mary July"
Ryder Baker
>Purple Hays, my man! Who's that old man wichya? Then Wayne goes from being uncertain and confused to that big smile. Warmed my heart.
Landon Price
BASED
Jacob Martin
At least season 2 brought is Vince posting. I (we) got fucking nothing from season 3.
Asher Reyes
>so (unrelated movie) go fly a kite
Jason Harris
It was underwhelming. Honestly, the show just made them look like bad detectives with how much shit they missed
Colton Smith
Why have I not seen any Boomer memes featuring old Roland?
Leo Collins
imagine watching this season for the case details
you faggots should be shot on sight
Liam Hernandez
This. Roland was 100% a gay man and that's why he cared so deeply for Julie's fake fag dad. Roland had a connection with Tom that was deeper than normal
Camden Reed
feeding the doggs with an ice cold sipp in hand
Ethan Lopez
congrats you have entry-level gaydar
Adrian Clark
this but in charleston
Joshua Rodriguez
>muh lovecraft >muh occult >muh cosmic horror I don't think you understand what makes TD good
Mason Price
It was literally just to tease you into watching. I could tell what was going on around episode 3 and stopped watching. They mentioned the Franklin Coveruo but I knew they wouldn't have the balls to really make the show about that shit. HBO would never allow it. What I never expected was that they would make the conspiracy chick into an idiot. Season 1 was true Satanism. Like the real shit everyone knows secretly goes one. 2 was Hollywood pedos but they clearly neutered the season for zero payoff. Season 3 is bullshit "false memory syndrome" /fake news programming, to try and convince the audience that stuff like season 1 doesn't actually go on. This show has been compromised.
Ayden Nguyen
I like the season, and even isolated bits of the last episode. Fuck, I had even accepted that was the most likely explanation. It just didn't quite work as presented.
There's a lot of elements conveniently dropped for a streamlined explanation of the case. Like the incriminating phone call, what drove her to shit talk her dad? Being a mentally ill whore?
Gabriel Bennett
Would've unironically made the show 3x better
Grayson Ward
WOOOO! LOVE ME SOME GROIDRAMA!
Joseph Morales
I don't get it, was julie alive or dead? they said both, was he seeing heaven cause of his dementia?
Julian Williams
It's not just the visuals (though obviously that's a huge part) it's the subtle symbolism, the overall pacing, the realistic acting, the smoking hot women. Season 1 is a masterpiece and we don't deserve it. It's like the original Neon Genesis Evangelion or Avatar the Last Airbender. They keep trying to recapture the magic by continuing those series as well without really understanding what made them great in the first place. It's inevitable. Just appreciate what we had when we had it. There's a lesson in all of this. Season 1 was 5 years ago. What have you done with your life since then? Go outside. Start a family. Cause we're never gonna see anything like that again. Stop wasting time watching TV. Find some hobbies. It's just a waste of time. There's nothing that can compare.
Christian Edwards
how do stupid people like you even get the tv turned on?
Jordan Williams
Got any recommendations for southern gothic novels friendo
Alexander Ramirez
>was julie alive or dead? they said both that's intentional. it's like Schrodonger's cat - it's both alive and dead until you look at it. Hayes's wife even talks about quantum mechanics in one of Hayes's hallucinations
Jackson Morgan
Those kids were the West Memphis Three and they were guilty as fuck. They only got off because of shit head celebrities that said "oh they were just playing DVD". There was DNA all over the fucking crime scene from them. They bragged about comtting the crimes. This show has gone from redpilled to controlled opposition. I'm done with it.
Christopher Rodriguez
who tf owns a tv anymore? i watch shit on my phone like a civilized person
Alexander Reyes
I think black female characters just suck in general. I can't think of a single one in any movie or TV show I like. Maybe it's cause they're ham fisted actors, maybe it's because the writers always make them a stereotype. But seriously, can you even think of ONE good one? The only one I can is Maya Rudolph in Inherent Vice, but her husband was the director and she's only in it for like 2 short scenes. Oh wait and Jackie Brown. OK but that's the exception that proves the rule.
James Roberts
I'm not talking about the west memphis three, I'm talking about the satanic panic as a theme that included DnD, heavy metal, and probably a ton of other shit. Elizabeth, Junias, Will, and Julie were playing DnD in the forest. The dice were there from them playing, and Will had a DnD advanced guidebook in his room
Jeremiah Harris
The fact that they got the Oscar's new "intersectional" actor should have been a sign. This dude is only famous for playing black faggots, because other black guys are way to masculine to do so. This show is shit now and Pizzalatto needs to an hero.
Nolan Powell
You need to watch films made by black directors and black writers to find good black female characters. Most other black females are, like you said, off-putting stereotypes or a generic MINORITYGRRRLL POWER character
Austin Anderson
Its final then. Season 2 is pure kino. Season 1 is pleb trash for fedoras and season 3 is rian johnson subversion of expectations. SEASON 2 CONFIRMED FOR P U R E K I N O
Cooper Bailey
Which black faggots has he played?
Jordan Brown
>be hayes >get manipulated by a stronk woman so she can write a book which profits off the suffering of a tragedy >give her a box of her things and tell her it's over >she says "you're weak - there's nothing there" and other turbocunt chantings >she says she'll be ok and leaves >follows me to a bar where I'm having a drink and enjoying smooth jazz music >she asks me if I really meant what I said and manipulates me further into continuing the toxic relationship yaaaaas queen slaaaaay
Jason Martinez
It was bad because literal meme nigger actor and because Pizza is a hack and because Fukunaga carried S1
Logan Allen
I knew this was coming by episode 3. When you put Masonic symbols in the intro and mention the Franklin coverup in the second episode, it's obvious you're just trying to mock actual conspiracies with bullshit "satanic panic false memory" narratives. This season was punishment for Pizzagato for trying to reveal too much. He showed what actually goes on in the upper levels of government in season 1, and tried to do the same with season 2 and Hollywood, but they stopped him before he showed too much. Now they've literally gotten him to shit all over season 1. It's like when the South Park creators got so cucked that they had to make an episode where they take back all the stuff they said about AL Gore and global warming with ManBearPig.
And you know why? Because this is the first season of the show to come out after Pizzagate. And the first season had a symbol heavily connected to restaurants near Comet Ping Pong. So they had to change the plot and make the conspiracy theorists look crazy and just forget about the whole first season entirely. It's painful to see this go down. I wonder if Metalocalypse got canceled for getting too close to the truth too. Or if Evangelion'a remakes are now fucked up because they don't want people learning the elite's plan.
Elijah Reyes
>where all the responsible people never paid for it(except ginger guy like season 1?
Chase James
Twilight by William Gay aint bad
Kevin Hill
>And you know why? Because this is the first season of the show to come out after Pizzagate. And the first season had a symbol heavily connected to restaurants near Comet Ping Pong. So they had to change the plot and make the conspiracy theorists look crazy and just forget about the whole first season entirely. It's painful to see this go down. I wonder if Metalocalypse got canceled for getting too close to the truth too. Or if Evangelion'a remakes are now fucked up because they don't want people learning the elite's plan. watch hollywood divert attention to something else like they tried with catholic pedo cults, but catholic church is the church of satan and a close ally of the jewish pedo elite.
Juan Jenkins
>show sounds like absolute dogshit Thank God for instincts
Julian Sanchez
First: a genuinely unique and startling masterpiece, that feels more connected and imaginative than any other work in the medium, while containing a dark, atmospheric plot that is difficult to fully understand but incredibly rewarding.
Second: a rushed, sophomoric attempt to recapture the magic of the original without fully understanding the reason it was great, the interconnected themes and horrifying villains. Uses a totally different director whose style is not nearly as good and feels incredibly boring at many points. However some elements from the original remain and those are the best parts.
Third: an unpleasant combination of the first two that somehow manages to be considerably worse than both. Despite being competent on a technical level and more like the first than the second, it lacks any soul or energy to keep you invested and it feels like a complete waste of time before you're even a third of the way through.
Also Maniac is Bloodborne.
Sebastian Taylor
Throw in Macaulay Culkin and some piping hot za and you got yourself a season baby
Zachary Smith
yessir. pick up pic related if you get a chance. Any Flannery O'Connor. Man she wrote some mind-fuckingly good shit. And if you'd like some real life southern gothic kino, there's a book called Salvation On Sand Mountain by Dennis Covington. that was an absolute life-changer for me. It's non-fiction, a reporter goes to Alabama to investigate a really bizarre murder attempt and ends up hanging out with crazy religious snake handlers. Beautiful work.
That was part of how they defended the West Memphis three. They said "oh they only got accused cause they liked heavy metal and Stephen King". No they got accused because their alibi was a total lie and there was evidence they were at the crime scene and then even BRAGGED about killing the kids.
Jackie Brown is good. Most black female actors are just terrible though, they all always act the same way, same voice, same mannerisms. Black movies by black directors are even worse cause they're so tone deaf and get praised for mediocre work.
Literally every movie he's won an Oscar for. In Moonlight it's not obvious he's a faggot cause he's got a hot girl, but he's clearly this gay role model for a young black kid, who even tells him faggot isn't a nice word (how fucking realistic is that? I mean a big black drug dealer in the 90s who thinks faggot is a bad word? It was the most pandering bullshit and I actually liked some aspects of that movie) and then Green Book where he plays another black faggot. That's the only reason he's popular cause he's pretty mediocre even for a black actor.
Damn straight. Modern Catholic church is controlled opposition. When the leader cares more about open borders than keeping priests from fucking kids, you know there's a problem. I mean he's a fucking Jesuit for Christ's sake and in thousands of years they've NEVER had a fucking Jesuit because they're shady basterds. Both Podesta Brothers are Catholics too and went to Georgetown, the shadiest Jesuit Catholic college in America. They filmed the Exorcist there. The writer Bill Blatty was another Catholic and Georgetown alumni, who was also in the military psychological warfare department, like Michael Aquino, Church of Satan member and founder of the Temple of Set.
Jason Reyes
I don't remember Avatar absolutely shitting the bed in the final episode.
Jacob Brown
made by the same people, kinda the same feeling, but different.
Owen Martin
Because it's a new IP by the same director as the first one, but it's something totally different and better than the two sequels to the original.
Sebastian Reed
>he's pretty mediocre even for a black actor. but you're objectively wrong.
Ryan Phillips
I'm surprised people have this opinion, I honestly thought she was one of the best things about this season, and probably my favorite woman in TD.
Evan Anderson
>true detective a show about a married couple.
Parker Ross
True Detective Season 1 has a great final episode in my opinion, but some people disagree and they are usually depressed lonely atheists. Still, you're free to have your opinion even if you think life is pointless. Go watch No Country for Old Men because it's almost the exact same ending speech verbatim. The two works even share several of the same actors, like Woody and Dora Lange's mother, who are in, both. While I also like Avatar the Last Airbender's ending, I feel it's not without issues either. The biggest one being energy bending. It came out from nowhere, they don't even tease it or suggest anything like it and you would think previous avatars could have mentioned it. It just seemed to convenient and stupid, but it got its point across so I guess it works? I don't know the ending just felt rushed I guess the last four episodes could have been an entire season.
Aiden Hall
So much airtime was wasted on the dumb marriage shit and red herrings only to spell it all out in a confessional monologue
Disgusting
Anthony Martinez
>He showed what actually goes on in the upper levels of government in season 1 In what way did he do this? I'm pretty sure the biggest politician involved was a state governor, and even he was questionably tangentially involved through vague implications. Not exactly an expose.
Asher Foster
You're literally the first person I've ever seen that didn't hate her
Leo Ortiz
Are you fucking high? She was insufferable. Just an awful character.
Thomas Parker
What about Foxxy Cleopatra in Goldmember?
Jordan Perez
He wasn't gay in Moonlight. He tells the kid to not let himself be called a faggot because that is an insult to his manhood, and being gay isn't an excuse to roll over and play the "beta faggot" stereotype because people call him that. He wasn't even gay in Green Book.
Alexander Perry
No, I'm not. You're just a leftist faggot who can't tell the difference between a mediocre black actor and a good one because there are so few. Go watch Menace II Society or something. Mahershala Ali is average at best. Having a deep voice doesn't make you a good actor when you have literally one facial expression at any given time.
Nathaniel Carter
You in the wrong part of town boy.
Jace Diaz
The thing I really wonder about is a movie I saw a few years back, I think it was called "Starry Eyed". Basically the movie involves a girl attempting to break into Hollywood, and in doing so she undergoes a satanic transformation. The thing is, for most of the movie, it actually seems like they're leading up to addressing some real shit, only for her to literally turn into a succubus and dance with cultists around a bonefire.
I remember wondering why hollywood would allow a film so damning to them to be produced, then it started to make sense to me. The whole thing felt like a red herring, like a movie designed for skeptics to go "I bet you think all hollywood elites are literal demons who dance in fields for satan, don't you". It's basically a version of the truth so exaggerated that it serves to obfuscate how startlingly accurate it really is.
Zachary Walker
I liked her. I think there was a clear disconnect between her character in the 90s vs 80s, but I still liked her.
>Jackie Brown Oh, it's a Film 101 student + /pol/ indoctrinee Based retard poster.
Hunter Brown
Has pizza clarified the jungle scene yet?
Wyatt Miller
>go watch a 25 year old movie where he was an inexperienced actor to see how he's a bad actor today kys pls
Brandon Ross
Which one?? Right before he enters the light why the dark jungle right after? Did Pizzaman write two endings and include both because he's a hack?
Ian Cooper
If season two is any indication, he will say it was Jacobs Ladder 4 years from now
he's lost in the jungle of his memories breh. Pure kino
Adam Sanders
That one chick in The Wire that looks like a guy
Asher Martinez
>halfway through season >people on /tv saying the people behind the show are redpilled because the crooked spiral is the boy-love symbol and they are subtly acknowledging the legitimacy of Pizzagate >final episode >lol no it was just a crazy lady and her butler Kino.
Caleb Turner
The state governor was in all likelihood on the snuff video. They were the most powerful people in the state, a millionaire in charge of a state wide church/charity program, one of the chiefs of the state police force, and the even richer Sam Tuttle. Their family had been there since the founding of the state, which they were likely involved with. The whole season was a reference to Eyes Wide Shut, the masked murder sex parties, the husband and wife fighting due to promiscuity, the daughter becoming involved with the cult in ways that aren't made entirely clear. The reason it's not clear how involved the governor was is because he was so powerful he was able to easily cover it up, despite the tape being found in his cousin's mansion. And the plot of the cousin only being revealed to be a horrifying pedo AFTER his death may have been a reference to Jimmy Saville, a man with direct connections to British elites and royalty, who was only discovered to have raped hundreds or even thousands of children after he died, to do the elite covering up his crimes.
Beyonce looks like a dude. I have even said this to my black friends and they laugh and bring up Serena Williams who looks similar.
He wasn't an obviosh faggot but any black drug dealer in the 90s who says faggot is a mean word is definitely sticking something up his butt. And the guy he played in Green Book gets caught butt fucking a guy at a YMCA dumbass
Elijah Mitchell
I have to say the acting was stellar. Ali is really gifted and it's good to see he has more range of emotion than he did in house of cards. I hadn't really heard of Stephen Dorff but he was crazy good this season.
It felt very heavy handed what with little girl running into Hays scene, spoonfeeding ghost, that long-ass scene at Julie's house, blind nignog just straight confessing and such. Only memorable scene was Roland and the doggo.
Jayden Allen
Would be unironically kino
Christopher Clark
You would do the same thing if cutie whiter-than-Roland black girl kept giving you the pussy all the time let’s not kid ourselves
Nolan Lee
>cutie >black girl Uhh, those are contradictory, user
Joseph Carter
>calls me a "depressed, lonely atheist" for not liking the season finale of season 1
Ah, gotcha. Didn't realize your type came to sites like this. Carry on.
Alexander Brown
Yup, it's controlled opposition. They tease you with the truth, but never really let you see what goes on because that kind of movie would never get made. Eyes Wide Shut is similar, but Kubrick knew how to sneak symbols into his movies to make his points clear to his viewers, even if the producers couldn't notice them. The teddy bears in the Shining, the Mickey Mouse theme in Full Metal Jacket, and the tigers in Eyes Wide Shut. It's all the same thing, child MKULTRA beta kitten programming but he couldn't just come outright and say it. Lots of movies do it. Notice all the one eye pyramids in The Big Lebowski and Boogie Nights. The them of Hollywood abuse and multiple personalities in Mulholland Drive. Or literally the entirity of Chinatown, which I don't even have time to get into. Some movies do spell it out but in those cases the director either mysteriously dies (Kubrick and Passolini after making Salo), gets accused or a horrible crime that most of Hollywood is probably themselves guilty of (Polanski), or is never allowed to make a mainstream Hollywood film again afterwards (Lynch and Mulholland Drive). By teasing the Satanism theme for the audience they increase viewership but by not actually showing the reality and just giving you a bullshit explanation about why it isn't real, they not only profit but they end up hypnotizing the audience into believing it isn't really happening.
Isaac Carter
>The first two episodes looked good and got me hyped for a season that was better than the original. >Every episode afterwords just got worse and worse and made me realize the whole season was wasted potential. The last two episodes were decent, but the storytelling ruined what was good. The framework for the storytelling had a lot of promise, but they had to make it disjointed and bloated. The execution for everything was bad except for the acting.
Brayden Jackson
If you're a low-test neet incel, yeah.
Christian Walker
honestly a really fucking bad, cliche-ridden finale. i was on board for most of the season but that last episode was amateur hour.
Anthony Edwards
I found her to be very warm and personable, almost instantly likable. And I thought she had good chemistry with the lead, who seems like a tough actor to have chemistry with.
Ayden Rogers
Everyone here and everyone that I know that watched it IRL hated her. She was annoying and weird.
Jason Miller
I don't watch the wire cause I met the guy who created it and he seems like a total cuck.
Anyone who doesn't see value in that ending and Rust's speech is a godless faggot with no hope and should just kill themselves. You entire reply was "NO U" and you should make your suicide extra painful for such a weak reply. Again, it's the same ending as No Country for Old Men, which you obviously haven't seen either.
Juan Kelly
That's gonna be a YIKES from me, dawg
Adam Miller
I'm sure many people in the generals were like me and realized there's no point in appreciating her openly because all of the anti-women and anti-black shitters would derail the thread even more than they normally do.
Andrew Reyes
Never do anything out of hunger, Ray. Even eating.
Season 1's ending was awful and ended the season on a mediocre note.
Jeremiah Kelly
>Anyone who doesn't see value in that ending and Rust's speech is a godless faggot with no hope and should just kill themselves. Or maybe the reason I didn't like it was because an entire season of intrigue amounted to a corny brawl with a fat hillbilly in a cave. But sure, keep making this about godliness while you tell me to kill myself for not liking an episode of a show.
John Smith
only s1 is pizzagate. s3 is making fun of the qanon bitches who take that shit too far
Jeremiah Williams
>Passolini after making Salo You realize Salo was based on a book written by an insane man who spend most of his life institutionalized, right? Passolini didn't come up with that. He's just the idiot who decided it was worth showing to the world.
Ryder Walker
Wow, at first I really liked her but you telling me how everyone doesn't like her really makes me rethink my position.
Oh wait, no it doesn't.
Aiden Anderson
Thanks for speaking up user. She was definitely a bright spot for me this season.
Levi Adams
Stunning, and brave.
Aiden Myers
go back to plebbit you fucking faggot.
i don't watch true detective for couple bickering drama.
Liam Fisher
I don't read your posts cause you seem like a total bitch. Pretty stupid logic isn't it?
It was honestly just terrible writing, this season had its moments, but it was like I was constantly giving pizza the benefit of the doubt because it might lead to something glorious, and then all doubt was removed. He's just terrible.
Easton Collins
This pretty much sums up my thoughts on the season.
Whats the matter buddy, you've already got everybody else ITT and all your supposed IRL couchbuddies to hate her with you, why aren't we allowed to enjoy her over here in our little corner? You seem awful insecure about people liking something you don't
Sebastian Phillips
Is the water making the frogs gay?
Nathan Jones
I'm having a hard time swallowing that fairy tale ending where the kid that had a crush on her in grade school finds her all those years later and they live happily ever after...
Anthony Brown
Because you are wrong, she wasn't likable.
Luis Walker
Does it help if we saw him and figured out that is what happened in episode 6?
John Rodriguez
And yet somehow multiple people ITT liked her. Weird, isn't it?
Jack Hill
meant for
Carter Carter
god I wish that was me
Nicholas Peterson
just imagine if the roles were reversed. imagine the sjw shitstorm on social media.
Isaiah Miller
Three out of several hundred posters and a dozen personal interviews. About the percentage of retards in the general population. Math checks out.
Jace Long
>have crush on girl >she disappears, probably dead >35 years later you see her at a church >marry, have a beautiful daughter together
>still trying to make sure everyone here doesn't like her so that he can feel secure with his opinion
Isaiah Rodriguez
>still trying this hard to validate his wrong opinion
Logan Morris
You realize you're allowed to have a shitty opinion right? You don't have to pretend we all agree with you.
Sebastian Gray
We have already established that you are wrong, user. You don't have to keep trying
Cameron Scott
I'm not even involved in this until now, just saw you making dumb blanket statements that were clearly exaggerated to match your point, so I figured I knock you down a peg. You response proves you needed it.
Jacob Collins
>literally STILL seething about people liking a character in a tv show.
Michael Howard
I think you need to go back Imagine being this upset that you have shitty opinions
Logan Walker
>Imagine being this upset that you have shitty opinions Seems like you're already there, buddy.
Josiah Thomas
>no u lol nice comeback
Cooper Sanders
Yes, but Alex Jones is a faggot nigger who chalks it up to some government conspiracy and not unstifled pollution