Why couldn't he just occasionally sneak into the matrix and eat some steak or whatever?

It’s the same experience whether you think it’s real or know it’s fake, though. The same neurons fire

what happened

it's part of jewish mysticism, they always need a judas to tell the story correctly.

how did he escape from the matrix, who made the call?

It’s ok, son. I’ll be back again someday.

He ate my pussy instead :(.

did you watch the movie?

that's unfortunate

But he knew it wasn't real pussy...

>In fact, why the fuck did the first version of the matrix fail when it was basically heaven?

The human mind refused to accept a reality that was perfect. If everything is a dreamlike paradise, on a fundamental level you're going to know it ain't real.

because he knows nigga, he knows its all shit
its like saying just jack off to porn and pretend its real what do you need a woman for

They do that all the time, presumably. They even designed the woman in the red dress for fun and games. Cypher specifically wanted to forget that the Matrix wasn't real, so he could live in blissful ignorance.

Still preferable to a shitty “realistic” simulation. I’ll happily be a battery for me if you let me just fuck big titted sluts constantly for 80 years.

This is actually a pretty major plot hole. It's never established how Cypher was able to jack in and get himself out without an operator. That said you can probably just make up some excuse that the machines were able to get him out.

I do wonder how Cypher was even able to arrange that meeting in the first place. Why would an Agent negotiate with a human? In what context would they just not immediately shoot him on sight?

maybe he was bitching to a stray dog he met while on lookout duty about his unresolved anger and general disgruntlement and the stray dog turned into an agent and said "go on"

nigga if porn was a real as the matrix and interactive to boot 80% of men would die of dehydration within the first 3 days of it releasing

fuck that, you think people havent been saying nigga if videogames where as good as they are now people would just play them all the time and be happy forever
shit dont work like that, especially when you know it aint real

Why not tone it down a bit then? Have your toast land butter side down, make smoke detector batteries still go dead, have the toilet paper run out every once in a while.

>Imperfect beings living in a perfect world.

Video games are still relatively linear and limited. They look close to real but they are still very shallow when compared to real life.

Who in their right mind would live a shitty life in a shitty world where their only escape from reality was injecting themselves into a false computer reality where they play games and experience things they don’t have in their real world?

How would you not rebel against that?

When he asked Smith to remove the aoc that was just too much

Hence tone it down instead of going full retard with 2 dystopias.

That's not how Cognitive Dissonance works.

Almost everyone on this site does that.

But when he went on a date with Agent Smith how did they split the bill?

Its already real hard figuring out how to split the bill with a woman. I have constant anxiety thinking about how to split it with a man, who is a virus, inside a computer simulation.

I think I'm going to be sick

>Why would an Agent negotiate with a human? In what context would they just not immediately shoot him on sight?

Are you seriously asking that? Why the hell would they NOT explore a significant opportunity to remove the greatest and only true defensive measure humans had over machines?

>explains real life
why aren't you rebelling?

machines weren't using men as bateries or chips, they were just keeping us alive until they had terramorphed other planets so that we could claim the galaxy they knew that it had be done in order for us to survive

They were living in what the machines described as "the pinnacle of your civilization", so perhaps they just looked for the era with the best standards of living and replicated it.

So does gigachad not accept that his life is real?

You are literally explaining reality. Look how many people seek escapism in video games, movies, TV shows, books, alcohol, drugs, etc.

AYYY RALPHIE GEDDA FUCK OUTTA MATRIX

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what was sion tax rates?

Why did he kill the hooker outside of Bada Bing?

then why build an expensive virtual reality instead of keeping us in medical coma?

How much did the machines know about the one? Was it only the architect, Merovingian and Oracle? What happened if they got those codes and got to Zion before the one was found?

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It gave them purpose. While sentient, they are machines. As we saw in the second film, a program or machine without purpose is deleted. Thus they give themselves purpose so they don't turn on each other, deleting themselves.

>The human mind refused to accept a reality that was perfect. If everything is a dreamlike paradise, on a fundamental level you're going to know it ain't real.
intradasting...

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a) She was a whooa
b) She hit him
c) She didn't exist

yeah you're the joke more like answer the question why aren't you rebelling then

good answer but wouldn't terraforming other planets be enough of a purpose?

1. she was a hooah
2. I was doing a lot of redpills at the time
3. she probably wasn't even real

smith didn't eat anything nor does he ever so the bill is yours alone

>implying video games now are particularly more complex than before aside from just having better graphics

same neurons dont fire when get addicted to porn and insta whores
;-;

Why even simulate a reality? Just flood everyone’s brain with dopamine.

>with a man, who is a virus
he wasn't a virus yet

he became a self-replicating virus after neo fucked his shit up

Imagine sneaking a tracer pill into Persephone's drink, ejecting her from the matrix and grabbing her with the Nebuchadnezzar grappler like a crane game with the plush toys, chaining her up while she's weak because she has never used her body before, and feeding her just enough goop to keep her thick, and turning her into your sex slave? Or is it just me

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of course they are going to negotiate with him, if they know he's willing to negotiate but how do they know that?

Agent sees Cypher; why is Cypher not shot before he has had the chance to explain his intentions of negotiating with the agent?

I'd subside from the milk of a goddess alone

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with a man you just ask for separate checks dumbass

She wasn't real

cause the steak was better in the matrix and not in thier shit simulator

Persephone wasn't a bluepilled human, he was a program like the merovingian

Persephone was a software, you dobule nigger.

I didn't like how this guy was a program, I wouldve prefer if they were hackers, people that knew matrix was fake but still enjoy it, purple pilled if you want

>he
she*

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then you download her program into the body of a woman who looks like her

Smith has the cheat codes console, so he just spammed the infinite money code or "no bill" cheat

merovingian was a program but there is nothing to prove persephone was. proof me wrong

Because he was the weakest link in the group and smith wanted a body

in the movie she says she came into the matrix a long time ago with the merovingian

He could approach them first, he could have a good talk prepared. In either case, an agent within conversation distance can kill the human almost immediately, why would they not spare the moment to discuss the possibilities?

>klapaucius

because "the matrix" wasn't meant to be an hard sci-fi movie but social commentary on our times through a sci-fi movie
then it sold to well to not spawn two shitty sequels

This is just bait right?

He wanted to forget. He didn't want anything to do with reality. He's the guy who took the red pill then desperately tried to quaff down the blue one. This isn't difficult

>matrix has perfect VR simulator
>humans don't work as well as batteries if things are too perfect
>machines don't create a society that smooths out the highs and lows while creating simulations inside the simulation that are cheap, easy to access and allow people to experience those highs and lows in a VR simulation so they still wish things were better in the 'real world' and don't figure it out.

Imagine being trapped in the Farm simulator matrix

Good question. Also: how much does clothes cost in The Matrix?

that is the the brainlet take.
matrix reloaded is actually the most cerebral film in the trilogy. The reason why casuals hate the sequels is because they have zero hand-holding.

You just load the texture packs and rigs

>tfw trapped in the truck simulator matrix

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The Agents seemed pretty interested in capturing rebels alive and interrogating them. They could have just killed neo when they found out Morpheus was interested in him too, but they wanted to use him as bait to catch Morpheus and get the codes.

Then just load money texture packs.

how can you be so purposefully obtuse

t.virgin

there was a heaven once, two people, one called Adam, the other Eve, lived there.
Not going to spoiler the story for you but it did not go well.

I like the idea that there was a national manhunt for morpheus and that he was considered to be one of the most dangerous men alive

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But is floating in your own jizz really worth it?

You know what would have saved the trilogy?
Splitting the first movie into two movies and merging the last two into one.

>The goal of the first movie is to escape the matrix
>Neo doesnt leave until the very end after his fight with Smith where he becomes the one
>The white room exposition/training scenes still happen but theyre dream sequences
>He spends the whole movie doubting if any of this is real or if Morpheus is just a terrorist brainwashing him
>Is finally able to escape at the very end when he starts to believe
>Second movie deals w the oracle ect and him slowly learning to use his powers, doesnt go full haxx jesus until movie three

Morpheus was the bad guy

Cypher was the hero of the matrix

Morpheus just wanted to wake people up to serve his own ego

Why would you want to awaken in an apocalyptic hellhole?

The machines had endless love and mercy for their creators

The real world was just another layer of the matrix

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>Why would you want to awaken in an apocalyptic hellhole?
that is not what one'd choose, that is a consequence. The choice was if one wanted the truth or not, no more, no less.

>pic
According to your view, the red pill was really the bluepill.

>Ey Neo, the spoon even really exist?

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put all scenes of the french in the second movie, put the skyscraper and the architect in the third one
make them both speak half their lines

>smoke detector batteries still die
Anything but this

>The machines had endless love and mercy for their creators
technically they did. They had no reason to keep the humans around, they could have probably survived with less energy. The real reason for the matrix was to study humans because the machines literally had nothing else to do.

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>The real reason for the matrix was to study humans because the machines literally had nothing else to do.
ironic, since humans (although they have a fuckton of shit to do [read: discover & develop]) are studying A.I.

Yeah meeting the Architect should have been the climax of the trilogy. Not the stupid Smith fight.

A daring synthesis

This. And it should have been played by Neil degrasse Tyson.

but if we're being serious, it would have been a fucking disaster having anyone even remotely recognizable as the architect

>if you cum in the matrix, do you cum in real life?

>He never had a wet dream

just before the final fight against him, instead of that baby machine, fighting him would be a personal favour to the architect

where's that lilith chick fit in with all that

I wish I could understand that scene.
I still don't know who that guy was, or if he was telling the truth that the real world was just another layer of the matrix (since Neo could control machines """outside""" the matrix).

I must've missed this part of the Animatrix.

humans are only truely happy when they're unhappy

He is the OS of the matrix

The last two were actually meant to be a single movie. It was originally going to be a series that went matrix, prequel, sequel, but the studio said no

kek no.
Reloaded is fine and Revolution is trash, but the OG Matrix is by far the best of the three.
Also, Animatrix is kino.

I wish they would revisit it and do that. It could have been so much better.

How does sex work in the matrix? You're in an isolated pod, and you meet a qt girl. Then you bang her and she has a kid. Is there some tube in your cock that gets routed all the way to her pod and then stuck in her pussy? Or do you never actually cum and the machines just program a new baby into the matrix?

If you do cum but it doesn't go anywhere, does it just float around in your tank? What about women in the tanks, do they constantly float around in their own menstrual blood? Are new humans cloned or how does that work? The machines must put a tube in you to collect the doo-doo, otherwise they'd have to clean the fluid in the tanks like every day which would take forever plus it could make the humans sick.

I'm assuming all seed and eggs are extracted and grown in it's on tube
not hard to imagine

Why not just castrate all the humans so they're not cumming and bleeding all over their tanks? Just clone babies instead of relying on sperm and egg cells to work.

Do the machines keep any other animals alive? Are there birds or anything?

He could eat steak in the Matrix. The movie even shows him doing so in the scene that you are referencing.

The point isn't that he wants steak and that he is somehow unable to get it. The steak is a metaphor; he wants to live in the Matrix and believe it to be the "real world" just like everyone else. When he sits down to enjoy a steak, he wants to enjoy it and not be troubled by the idea that it, and the world around him, is a simulation.

>The machines must put a tube in you to collect the doo-doo
When Neo woke up in his pod, he had to pull a giant tube out of his ass that was used to collect his fecal matter.

What if they did actually put him back in the matrix and wiped his memory, but he ends up getting curious and going down the rabbit hole and waking up from the matrix again?

Ten/ten

"Don't get cheap on me Smith"

Wouldn't happen. They only free young minds who are more ready to accept an alternate reality. Neo was the exception.

You pay for exactly what you consumed, moron.

nah paulie did

>when you realize neo and trinity are close to 40 in the matrix

I always figured that the restaurant scene was metaphorical, that they're talking through the computer.

they got waste tubes set up I'm fairly sure

Well the little mousey kid did offer to set Neo up with the hot lady in the red dress, I would imagine they were all taking turns. Trinity and Switch included.

Why didn't the machines just build big fans that blew the smoke into space

there are only humans in the pods because the original concept was using human brains as servers for a super computer. only humans because humans have the best brains.

then the suits went full retard and forced the not-yet-trannies to make it about batteries at which point you have to wonder why icebears or gorillas or literally anything isn't better than humans at creating energy from food (that you grow without sunlight somehow). it doesn't make sense because it was changed.

There was a scene where Neo approaches Cypher from behind and he nervously turned off all the scenes then tried to play it cool. Maybe he was communicating directly with agents from the ship?

i think that's implied, but cipher is too short-sighted to realize that

i don't think that's true. the freed humans can't be picky about their allies, they need all the help they can get

>In fact, why the fuck did the first version of the matrix fail when it was basically heaven?
Normalfag sour grapes and plot contrivance ().
Yeah maybe SOME people would think it's -too- perfect. But not all. We are talking fractions of a percent. You have to remember they are born and raised in the matrix.
Real life isn't perfect therefore that must mean perfection is either unattainable or undesirable.

So, how'd it taste?

They could have just lobotomized the stock.

>prequel in 3d
Wew

youtu.be/kzKzPLL6upU

This is how I saw it, seems pretty obviously implied especially since the steak scene takes place right after. Too many brainless in this thread.

that's not why it failed. it failed because it was too easily corruptible, e.g. by anomalies like smith. they needed to be able to safeguard against attacks, so a world completely at peace was vulnerable. the original version of the matrix was like an immune system without antibodies or antigens

that's also why the matrix is like a sandboxed OS, to prevent complete infection of the system

Imagine if you try to wake up your family but they were just programed npcs, or you wake up as a women instead, or you are some top model on earth and wake up as a really ugly dude
what if you died in a car accident, do you die in real life inside the pod or resurrect as another person? lots of possibilities that the movies didn't exploit
like did sion even had the ability to feed just 1% of people waking up?

>yfw you learn cypher is Latin for Judas

They certainly are picky and should be when people can and have betrayed the rebels. Might want to make sure they get a whole lifetime to adjust to reality. Honestly, only "home-grown" humans should've been allowed to venture into the matrix, just out of mental safety for everyone.

That was Morpheus' mistake

Hmmmmmmmmmm MAYBE TRANNIES CAN'T FUCKING THINK PROPERLY YOU N-WORD?!

>create heaven
>with niggers on it

literally a paradox

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You know it's not real ... Like ... If you go fuck in vr you feel great about it ? ...

The problem was choice. Every human mind had to accept the reality of the Matrix by choice, hence why they created the Oracle program who can better understand human emotion than the Architect who represents cold hard logic.

Logically the perfect world should have been an excellent compromise between human and machines for coexistence, but they were attempting to overwrite human agency on a level previously unknown to be possible. Thus it failed.

None of the Matrices worked though. While most people accepted the reality of the imperfect world of the 20th century, quite a few people still rejected the Matrix and either freed themselves, or became aware enough to be freed by those who were already freed.

I imagine the machines collect DNA from each parent then clone the baby, grow it themselves, then insert it into the Matrix when it's time for the birth.

Yes. When I first got VR, I was getting really into porn. It felt real. I started getting a “swagger”, is the best way to put it. I felt calm and confident all of the time. I put on like 15 pounds of muscle in two months. And girls started flirting with me a lot.

No that was a made-up reason to allow the matrix to be set at the same time as when the movie released. In 1999

That scene is super easy to understand. The Architect simply explains to Neo the true purpose of the One is to reset the Matrix as all the Ones before him had done. However this time Neo is caught between fulfilling the purpose the Machines had created for him or fulfilling his own desires of saving Trinity from the Agents. The Architect threatens Neo with the destruction of Zion should he betray his purpose, but Neo tells him to fuck off and goes to save Trinity anyway. The Architect mocks Neo's hope that he can save both Trinity and Zion, believing that the humans will never win.

Smith said the machines chose the end of the 20th century as the pinnacle of human civilization because soon after the machines began to run everything and so it was really the machine's civilization.

Why did the oracle change her appearance? Just as a disguise from the agents or what? They found her anyway

makes no sense if they’re born into the matrix. They have no parameter, humans would get used to paradise and adapt accordingly.

Honestly, no we wouldn't. We have imperfect emotional minds and would likely destroy any paradise world regardless of our lack of context for an imperfect world.

Imperfect beings living in a perfect world would make it inherently imperfect.

The original plan was using humans brains for more computer RAM but the execs thought most people wouldn't understand, so they made it simpler. Simulation takes 32gb of ram to run when the human brain can do 3200gb thats why you only use 10% of your brain, matrix is real.

So no lobotomy.

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actress died

Merv banned him from his restaurant because he didn't want him making a fool of himself in his place. The only option he had left to get anything close to gourmet food was going through the agents.

Your logic is flawed, human thought process and thus our actions would be COMPLETELY different if we were born and raised in a society where nothing was scarce, everything was accessible, nothing could harm you, no diseases affected you etc.

There would be no jealousy, greed, impetus for destruction if we had access to everything we wanted at all times, we wouldn’t even know the concept of destruction.

Humans born outside the Matrix can't enter it because they don't have the plugs/cybernetics from the pods. That's why they're always operators or ship crew that keeps watch while everyone is plugged in

Almost like life is the most interesting thing in the universe.

You're unironically a brainlet retard tbqh

You dont know what a paradox is, do you user?

ofc its bait, you are on /tv

but 32 is 1% of 3200, not 10%

You just described our world.

that guy was just shitposting. using the human brain as memory would be retarded, our memory is notoriously inaccurate. what we're actually really good at is real-time processing, not data storage.

voidspace.org.uk/cyberpunk/goliath.shtml

This is a canon short story about how the machines deal with aliens.

Thats because youre so fucked up on scag

WERE TALKING RAM HERE

but computers beat us when it comes to processing. what we're really good at is heuristics. i think the machines wanted to use humans as their anti-virus software

RAM is temporary storage room. you can think of it like a work bench.

Is that not the chaddest move of them all?

>he thinks external influences are the only parameters that determine a human being's thought processes
oh no no no

The animatrix is the remnants of their prequel ideas if you want to treat yourself

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that idea is fucking retarded though lol. You seriously mean to tell me that in a scifi future with intelligent machines they're concerned with fucking RAM? bioelectricity / no sun makes more sense to me

Disagree. After being in a fake world for decades, I don't think you'd want to spend all your time in another fake world. Atleast I wouldnt.

try to understand the part of the human mind that begs the question "is there more to life"
it's why even the most powerful people want even more power

Blow it out your ass tony! Do you know what the beer tastes like in Zion? I'd rather drink my own urine.

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>why dont you just play vidya fro time to time to forget how shitty your life is?

The Matrix is going to go the way of Star Wars and the MCU

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Video games can't access your brain through all your senses idiot

hearty kek

it's because of this hack

matrix can't actually be milked but that won't stop retards from trying

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Remakes.

What are some movies (aside from my life) about this feel

The real question is why the hell did he ask to get his memory erased? If the machines did that he would basically kill himself. Why not just ask for the paradise version of the matrix.

Thats because you're a retarded little cunt

that's even more unrealistic, not even star wars has been remade. They're going to try to go for some embarassing spin-off shit but it doesnt make sense anymore. Last I heard they considered a tv series but that got cancelled.

>have an expanded universe where they test matrixes
>the robots have killed off all minorities and white people are left to live in unison with robots and women are killed in place of waifu bots
>war and poverty solved

They would be the real red pills. The truly awaken. Morpheus and his living "free" under sewers and eating goo while they are enjoying the matrix with their hacker potential.

He kinda wants to kill himself. He was probably happy before Morpheus "saved" him, he just wants that back

Gigachad still has headaches every once in a while. Gigachad still has to take an uncomfortable shit every now and then. Sometimes it's really cold in his room in the morning and Gigachad doesn't want to get out of the bed he sleeps naked in. Even Gigachad would have some issues in the real world.

There is no such thing as an uncomfortable shit

ready player one