"Shaken, not stirred."

>"Shaken, not stirred."

Can this line still survive in modern times? It used to be regarded as one of James Bond's "coolest" trademarks. Nowadays, doesn't it just kind of make him seem like a picky asshole?

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maybe im not very knowledgeable about booze but how do they stir a martini?
is the bartender just lazy and stirs it in ice then drains it?

He should swith to Rum. Martini is a woman's drink. Having him dring it from a comopolitan glass doesn't help either.

>doesn't it just kind of make him seem like a picky asshole?
Not really, that's just how you order a drink. Like saying you want a whisky on the rocks. But it does make him seem like a man who dosen't know his alcohol. You're not supposed to shake Martinis

Was originally supposed to be "stirred not shaken" ie nothing ever rattled him. He just sounded like a mong though so they changed it.

>thicc, not skinny

Make it a double, and keep 'em coming.

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>LANDWHALE, not stick insect*

Martini is for women lmao

>custom ordering drinks in 20xx
I order black coffee at Starbucks maybe once or twice a week as a treat. I'd say 75% of the time they pump liquid sugar in to it which makes it taste like liquid ass. I've tried every way to tell them not to do that but they still will. It's a lost fucking cause

the perception of the drink has changed over time, but you're not wrong. the new "manly" drink is straight bourbon, scotch, etc. it's a good change, cosmos/manhattans are definitely bitch tier
inb4 "drink whatever you want!"
good for you, you still look like a pussy

I don't pick my coffee because of the brand, I think the taste is way better than McDonald's unmolested. If you're a sugar and cream guy McDonald's does a really solid job at it but if you're going for black Starbucks as a base destroys McDonald's. The worst fucking coffee I've ever had is dunkin donuts though, pure trash.

Fine, it's not recommended to shake Martinis

They did a Bond episode on Mythbusters though: there's no difference between a shaken and a stirred Martini.

I'd say maybe 60-70% I'd be completely fine with this. At some of the bars I frequent I actually really enjoy the tenders' banter but many of them are just god-fucking-awful.

>"Rolex? Omega."

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>character pretends like straight liquor tastes good

Dry martinis taste like ass anyway. I'd rather just have gin or vodka on the rocks

Shaken, not stirred.

>supporting somali immigrants
You deserve what you get.

There are also people who unironically think the world is flat

Bond was just a retard

good enough to party

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>craig
>bond

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Went in a pub the other week was driy so asked for a 'Larger Top'
Fucking bar wench didn't have clue what I was on about

I can't take mythbusters seriously on account of how Adam is an unbalanced left-wing psychopath.

>character doesn't wince every time they take a shot

He looks so much like Putin.

only happens to me with vodka d e s u. i think it's all psychological. whiskey/rye/tequila goes down fine/enjoyably. even thinking about a vodka shot makes me wanna gag

>ask clearly new, probably underaged, barman for a lager
>they go up and down the bar looking confused
>"sorry, I can't see a tap labelled that"

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>equating manhattans with cosmos
Bro, two ounces of rittenhouse rye, an ounce of Carpano Antica, and two dashes of angnostura bitters stirred and strained onto a big rock is a patrician-tier choice. Sure, some shit small town outback steakhouse-tier manhattan with shitty vermouth from a plastic bottle that has never been refrigerated will blow dogcock but walk into a decent "craft" cocktail bar and order a Rittenhouse Rye manhattan. Cosmos are and will always be for chicks, and at least 10 year old single malt islay scotch neat will ALWAYS be the manliest drink. But don't knock a good fucking manhattan.

I work at a bar at the minute and I don't really mind if a robot takes my job.

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James Bond is ordering a watered down drink and being snooty about it.

In the original dialogue, when the bartender asked Bond how he'd like his Martini, Bond replied "Do I look like I give a damn?".

For some odd reason Sean Connery decided to be a massive faggot and ask for it to be shaken, not stirred.

Yes and shaking a cocktail is far better than being a nigger and stirring it

>sneeded, not feeded

They certainly used that line in the Craig Casino Royale, but was that really from the book?

Actually incorrect. Read the chapter in liquid intelligence about shaken vs stirred. Basically, shaking results in a diluted cloudy mess, whereas stirring results in a chilled, less diluted, perfectly clear liquid. You stir anything that's pure spirits and bitters and shake anything with citrus is the basic rule. The only martinis to shake typically are dirty ones (meaning they have olive brine in them) and then you double strain it with both a hawthorne strainer and a tea strainer into a chilled coupe to remove sediment.

>Mythbusters did it

how you know someone's opinion can be discredited. Stop using reality TV as some source of expertise.

i don't think you're wrong necessarily, but the drop off is pretty massive. you are right that manhattans are well above cosmos in the manly department

If they fuck up 75% of the time why do you keep going there every week?

The whole point of using olive brine was to cover up the horrible taste of cheap potato vodka, and shaking broke up the oils that were in it.

They already have machines like this more mixed drinks. They taste like ass.
t. Bartender

wrong friendos.
you add all the spirits (2 1/2 Gin, a light spray of Dry Vermouth from an atomizer) into this glass and then add ice (freshly cut that day). You then stir it with a bar spoon, making sure to keep the rounded part of the bar spoon to the inside of the glass, for 20 seconds. you then use a julep strainer to strain into a chilled coupe and use either a lemon twist (patrician) or olives (pleb) to garnish.

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How can they fuck up 75% of the time when you only go once or twice a week?

>I don't pick coffee because of the brand

Yes you do, hence why you keep going to Fagbucks for a coffee that in your own words is wrong 75% of the time.

Also, Dunkin is good. Be a contrarian elsewhere, $8 cup of joe.

martinis are supposed to be stirred

in the novels James sued to say "Stirred, not shaken" to tell them "make it right"

they switched it for the books and now he's just being picky, but it became so ubiquitous that people started shaking their martinis everywhere, and now he just is kinda being redundant again.

t. bartender

Yeah but retards still order Tito's dirty martinis at my restaurant. I have to make at least ten a night.

>You're not supposed to shake Martinis
That's the entire point.....

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It does. I love the taste so much I had to give up drinking because all I'd do was drink chilled vodka or tequila every single night.

bongnigger alert

Keep reading baby's first bartending book and pretending you know something, nigger.

wrong anyway, the vermouth only needs to touch the edge of the glass a bit from the inside, then you pour it out and put in the wodka and then the olive. true martini

He was mocking you. You do realise that right.

I'm an American and I manage the bar at a high end restaurant with a craft cocktail bar. Sorry your standards are shit or you're a flyover retards without any good restaurants in your shitty little hometown you've never left.

Bartender here. You want the martini chilled and diluted to a point. This can be achieved by either shaking or stirring. Shaking is actually the lazy, sloppy way to do it. It’s faster, but fractures the ice cubes into small bits and aerates the drink a lot, which changes the flavor profile and texture in what is generally considered to be a negative way. It also makes your drink cloudy, and visually less appealing. Actually, there’s no real reason for a bartender to shake any cocktail that doesn’t have fruit juice or egg white in it.

But even then, Gin Martinis are generally considered the more classic, traditional, and tasty option than Vodka Martinis.

You're not “supposed to” because it’s some trend, dumbass. Shaking a martini is like cooking with a microwave instead of an oven. It’s easier yet worse. Fleming wrote it because it sounded cool, and because he actually knew very little about alcohol (and also firearms, which is why Bond carries a Barretta and, later, Walther). If you do a blind test, I’d guarantee that a strong majority of people would prefer stirred, and a lot wouldn’t care.

>no gumar

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I travel a lot for work and it's all of them user. I can't fucking tell you why but that's just how it is

Is this pic an edited / zoomed in version of an Everquest dwarf?

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>flyover retards
ding ding ding commie red flag detected

I have a James Beard award for my restaurant I manage. But it's okay if you get bitch tasteless vodka martinis, I actually don't judge IRL based on martini choice.
Exactly correct. Also, Fleming had Bond drinking six counts of Gordon's which is cheap shit and wouldn't fit in a fucking coupe unless is was massive.

Nigger I get a small black coffee with ice in it, shits like $2.50. It absolutely tastes better than McDonald's and gas station coffee tastes better than dunkin donuts. Don't confuse my coffee with the retarded milkshakes you drink.
It's a hassle but I go inside and have them make it right. A couple of times I've been running late for a work appt which is when shit really sucks
There's more than one week that I've been doing this if that's an honest question.

>all these pretentious "dude i'm a bartender" slobs
Spoiler my men, nobody actually gives a shit about your "technique", you're just a monkey in a bowtie whose job is to pour the booze. Keep drizzling the alcohol down that swirly spoon and squeezing a one micron layer of lemon peel like you think it makes a bit of difference.

Jesus, I didn’t know that. Kind of surprising that such a top-quality writer wouldn’t do a tiny bit of research, but whatever.

I wish I worked at your bar. Mine’s super fucking millennial, and very quantity>quality, which is annoying.

Lol true I hate how I have to work late (usually done at around midnight because we don't have a late night bar) and I'm practically an alcoholic, but I make more than twice as much as I made when I was a high school teacher in a year both managing and being behind the bar. The plan is to open another restaurant at some point in the next two-three years with my chef as co-owner and limited outside investment. I can be a pretentious twat sometimes but deep down I'm just a failed screenwriter movie nerd that found something he's good at the pays decently and enables my partying lifestyle.

Maybe a vodka martini can be shaken, but for the most part you are supposed to stir gin. I usually stir unless the drink calls for citrus or a patron asks otherwise

The Archeologist

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I definitely had to put work in at those kinds of places. I started barbacking when I was in college in Boston and kept doing it during the schoolyear until I moved up to bartender when I was twenty one. Summers I usually toured with my band (and I went to a music school there so they would let me tour and take classes at the same time during the year). After college I was teaching and doing grad school until I fell into a really successful bar almost by chance and kept at it until I had a nice enough resume to manage an upscale cocktail bar in a nice southern city (Charleston). Now I'm closer to DC. It's great here for bartenders.

I'm assuming you're talking about SC and not based WV?

If you drink booze at all you look like a blubberinf drug addict

based.

yeah south carolina. but WV is based as fuck. I love going to the Greenbrier to gamble and stay in a nice room and tour the bunker there. I usually take myself for my birthday every year along with my girl and I get myself a macallan 25 and play a little blackjack.

These reddit arguments about pineapple on pizza and martinis being shaken or stirred are embarrassing.

>bartender tries to act superior to other people
Lel

Neat, I'm new to the state and haven't visited Greenbriar yet but you should buy property up here if you come a lot. It's so fucking cheap it's unreal and you could probably get land and a cabin placed on it for 25k if you don't mind possibly forgoing utilities. I have a neighbor that has a room on one of the ski resorts or right outside of it and they do airbnb, say it pays for itself but I wouldn't want people staying in my place personally.

I think we can now solve the puzzle guys .

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this everyone knows pineapple goes on pizza now the patrician argument is ranch or blue cheese? also bone or boneless?

>in the novels James sued to say "Stirred, not shaken" to tell them "make it right"
No he didn't

I'm not superior at all bro it's just a job that has potential to lead to a career owning a restaurant or management group. The only reason I take it seriously at all is because it's something I have to do for a living and fuck it I might as well take seriously if I'm spending all that time around it. I see a lot of guys that just fucking show up and pour booze and they're miserable and they haven't moved onto any nicer restaurants and they're making less money because of it. Part of me sort of wishes I had stayed on the Grad school -> PhD path and become a professor or did Darden and worked for a DC thinktank, but I've invested so much time in this life that fuck it, I may as well ride it out until I own one myself. I'm about to be a 30 year old boomer here soon and I've been on Yea Forums for almost half my life and rarely get to jump on the opportunity to talk shop about the bar. Also, fuck illegal immigrants I will never hire one under the table or support any restaurant i know of that does this.

I still don't know but it makes me hungry for burger

It's 69

like i give a fuck about what someone who pours beverages for a living thinks

>I'd say 75% of the time they pump liquid sugar in to it which makes it taste like liquid ass.
That's just the government-subsidized liquid sòy that they use to increase the volume of your drink so they don't have to waste so much money on actual coffee beans.

wat

Shut the fuck up you absolute brainlet

I don't either, if I'm being perfectly honest.

I like the one with Olga Kurylenko where they both looked like Putin.

I feel like I need to wash my hands in between each of those steps. Should I just kill myself?

Shitty manhattans are like a slap in the face, there is no cocktail made cheaply that turns out worse

Last night i 69 your sister you dumbfuck.

how do you get that from "james bond hamburger"

it's not the proper way to make a martini

I get that Brosnan is 007 but what does the burger contribute? All I can think of is dollar menu or 0.99c.

It was real funny in Casino Royale when Bond says 'do I look like I give a damn?'

what sort of faggot is that serious about making drinks. youve got to be a real pretentious dip shit to do this

>reminder that a VC decided to not invest in starbucks because all of its coffee was worse than store bought
Charlie don’t drink coffee

VC? Vietcong?

I think that was the first time I noticed the cultural marxists criticalizing something. I didn't know what to call it at the time though, it just felt wrong.

Fuck me he looks so much worse in Spectre, like a fucking wax doll. He looked like a uni lad in Casino Royale. jessus

i am of the opinion that James doesn't want to get hammered fast. A shaken cocktail has more water in it

>quoting films and or shows as a sign of intelligence

Y-Y-Y-YIKES!!

silently pounded

>vodka and tonic pls
>that will be $14
>tips $6

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>this is your brain on /pol/

Nice ad hominem. Can't argue the point?

What is this, Canada?

What do we think of the title of the new Bond movie: Shatterhand ?

It's a bit lacking in the imagination department, I find. Maybe if they worked it into a pokergame or some more clever way. It's was also a Blofeld alias in the books.

user, just order your coffee and tell them "No classic". They'll know.

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Okay, now this is epic.

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>Martini is a woman's drink.
>recommends sugary children's drink

>rum
>sugary children's drink
Yikes

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