Star Trek Discovery season 2

Getting way too SJW. Season 1 wasn't that bad but theres just too much agenda pushing in this one.

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The horrible acting by Michael's actress sure doesn't help either. Starting to think even Tessa Thompson would've been less annoying and I can't stand her: total immersion breaker.

The neurotic chubby ginger character's writing seems to be straight from some comedy parody.

Why were both Wars and Trek IPs handed to people with zero affinity with the respective franchises?

You didn't even watch it, did you?

She was raised as a vulcan and most vulcans behave like assholes.

I was drunk through the latest episode, was it good or bad?

It was good but they flagrantly fucked the prime directive really bad, in a new and horrendous way.

I miss the dyke engineer. She’s fun and feels pretty Star Trek, like a grease monkey Bones.

fucked the prime directive and were beaming shit through their shields
shitty writing as far as Star Trek stuff goes

nah le cluster b dyke got old pretty fast

I don't mind that type of character, but not every line they utter has to be a quip or an insult.

The acting and dialogue is so corny in this, especially Michaels preachy monologues and hilariously bad facials and reactions when she tries real hard to act and convey emotions.

The series is still decent, but by god, the type-cast characters and things mentioned aboves makes this feels like a big bang theory version of star trek.

>How do you feel that Spock never mentions you and cut you out of his life completely?

What do you expect? It's a hollow JJtrek show aimed at non-fans. Don't support it, don't watch it.

By ST standards the first two seasons have been decent, considering how terrible S1 was for almost every other show. The trouble is that there's less chance Discovery will improve, because they clearly want to attract a certain demographic (the SJW crowd)

How is it SJW?

That’s happened a lot of times in Star Trek though. It’s forgiveable.

I did like the Ba’ul costume and design. And the Kelpien race makeup and portrayal is also pretty good.

Ba'ul didn't have a design, they were just scary shadows with edgy grimdark voices

>Its a someone has an idea but its not quite right yet so Michael Burnham completes it for them episode
>Its a someone is about to do something important on their own but Michael Burnham insist to tag along episode.

This shit is getting so fucking annoying this would be like O'Brien not being able to fix something without Sisko

Wasn’t that the point though? They wanted to intimidate because in reality they’re weak. It still had a lot more effort put into it than half of voyagers aliens.

>It still had a lot more effort put into it than half of voyagers aliens.
Felt like they tried a little too hard with these guys, the music and stuff they used made them seem like a borg level threat or something.
Also this whole kelpian evolution thing is gonna be dumb in the long run because it throws away the quirks that made them interesting, unless they plan to do something where Saru starts to get roid rage in the future.

>new guy "mansplains" to Burnham
>new guy gets randomly killed a few minutes later
>Admiral Brianna Wu tells two of her male officers to stop the "manlier-than-thou bullshit"
>every female character gets praised for just doing their job

He does have a literal headcanon now.

she delivers them with a flat boring monotone too

She was like they got a shit clone of that lesbian bitch Ellen degenerate

Being SJW is sadly the least of its problems. They don't care about their own canon.
The latest episode retconned the Short Trek that was filmed around the same time. In the Short Trek it was said that Georgiou was from the Shenzhou, there was even a shot of the shuttle but now according to the latest episode, Saru met Georgiou when she was on the Archimedes (with the same shot of the shuttle but this time they've CGI out the name of the ship).

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They’ve ruined the idea of Section 31, but with that said i would watch the spinoff. Michelle Yeoh and a finally useful role for Tyler. Is it too long after Enterprise to bring Trip back and make him their commander? He probably designed their ship, from data gathered from the Romulan vessel in Season 4 of Enterprise.

>oh wow the universal translator is broke, this might be interesting for once
>fixed in 120 seconds
>back to pew pew laser battles

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>Felt like they tried a little too hard with these guys, the music and stuff they used made them seem like a borg level threat or something.
I've noticed that the score changed this season. It's the same composer but the music is getting closer to Giacchino's style on the JJ movies. Maybe it's another one of those "great" ideas from Kurtzman.

????
That whole episode was about fixing the broken shit the alien computer caused, trying to communicate with it and the alien that was bonding with Tilly. No pew pew lasers. Are you OK?

Even that made no sense. Why would the universal translator change the language of each crew member? Don't they all speak english? Also why would it affect the computer screens?

Doubtful. I think its getting less SJW as they clearly arent attracting any demographic except Trek Fans.

>humans fixed climate change by putting solar panels on every appliance that runs on electricity

I hope the writers get AIDS

C&BP shill

As soon as it becomes popular they'll go right back to the SJW shit, mark my words.

Hi Midnight's Edge!

Hate how useless Captain Pike is

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more like captain kike tbqh

It'll be fun watching him transform into the bitter, jaded asshole we see in TOS though

it is getting better, very slowly. We will see.

This character is vastly more interesting than Burnham despite the fact she had very little screentime and barely any lines.

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Imagine Tilly sitting in your face haha

Imagine Killy sitting on your face

>considering how terrible S1 was for almost every other show.

I've never understood this meme.

DS9 S1 has some of the best Trek episodes of all time and is overall a good series. TOS S1 is GOAT and Voy was strongest at the start.

Only ENT and TNG have mediocre S1's and they're not terrible. S1 Discovery I will never, ever watch again in my life, it was legit trainwreck on every level and because it was completely serialised it's arguably the least watchable season of Star Trek out there.

This and Kelvin S31 makes no fucking sense whatsoever. This is arguably the biggest canon breaking thing of Discovery. Having an actual evil CIA organisation be a public Federation department instead of a conspiracy/cabal of a few Starfleet Intelligence fanatics just completely undermines the Federation and Gene's vision at it's very core.

STD IS A SHOW ABOUT FAMILY

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Pike wasn't bitter or an asshole. He didn't want to be a Captain anymore.

Only people who hate this show are Trekkies and you faggots know how etilist and whining they are.

...or incest

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This show takes place after The Cage.

Have you heard literally anyone else even having watched this show?

Me

Vulcans also behave logically, she was an overreacting whiner since the first episode though.

>things I don't like are an evil conspiration
wew lad

Nah, pretty much every Normie I've talked to about it said it was "eh" and they don't really give a shit about it, not a single Normie I've spoken too has continued watching S2 after S1 and it's been like a few dozen people I've spoken to about it at parties and through work.
It's only a small sample size, but just look online, do you see anywhere near the buzz about Disco that you do for even the Orville or any other TV show? Nope. Nobody talks about it aside from Trekkies.

>She was raised as a vulcan and most vulcans behave like assholes.

That's not it. She plays the role like an overcompensating college SJW larping as a rap/street thug.

If she acted like some legit emotionless/stoic autist i could've liked her performance even if the writing were still shit but this almost seems to be the polar opposite of that.

They rekt the Prime Directive and Saru was about to fight his superior officer on the bridge but got away without repercussions because Michael intervened

Of course michael intervened. Isn't there anything she doesn't do? I bet she could run an entire starship all by herself.

>wew lad
Listen to some Nerdist writers room podcasts and hear from the horse's mouth that forced diversity is very much a reality.

>Blah blah blah muh representation, muh equity but surely user you aren't suggesting that there is any outside influence on the writing of tv shows/entertainment!

Guess again, that is exactly what is up: nytimes.com/2009/04/02/arts/television/02gates.html (pic related)

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it's shit and you should all stop wasting your time

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>Oh you bet
Kek, this blatant obviousness is the exact reason I couldn't even watch s02e01. Breaks immersion real fast.

What agenda pushing?
>Michael relegated to play second fiddles.
>Strong white male is pretty much the new main protagonist.
>More focus on the crew, which is diverse, sure, but such was the case with TNG too.
The only "SJW" thing that comes to my mind is that Culbert was resurrected by chance so more gay shit is going to happen, but... meh?

It's still the burnham show. Pike is there to make her look even more superior.

..and oppressed.

Both her and Tessa Thompson plus that chick from expanse have this uncanny valley effect on me.I feel some instinctive primal revulsion when seeing them, like something is not right with their faces and bodies, and they are not just ugly but unnatural.

Exactly and you can see how they downplayed the fact that the white klingorc got raped by that female klingon. They made L'Rell have a kid off-screen so "it's fine, guys". It's just disgusting.

This is a shill thread because he didnt use STD for the name and also he pointed to imagined problems that dont exist in recent episodes at all. All for the purpose of making a trek thread while not being allowed to say STD

I had to abandon a couple of episodes because of homosexual weirdness, shitty time crisis endings and an overload of ugly people. I made it through the latest episode but I did have a little doze at one point.

Theyre gonna ask the same question every thread. They dont want an answer they want to make it sound like the point is contested

Thats some lazy shit right there

The shills seem to be less on the agressive this season, I wonder why.

I just think it's funny they still arent allowed to call it STD

The chad apex saru episode was far better than the latest orvile arc, especially when it's going to be completely undone with one bullshit, hive-mind transfer of "lefriendship.exe".

OwO who’s this???

Not really. I watch and like both shows but the Orville's latest episode was clearly better. Visuals done well.

I like STD but this saru episode was kind of weak, the one before it was better. I feel like Pike is getting less manly.

James Bernham

btw is tilly captain janeways grandma?

>Getting way too SJW

Haven't you watched Star Trek before?

The big question that remains is
Why does Discovery still wear these old federation uniforms?
Are they afraid to get women who show legs?

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The visuals were flat, the only good thing about the episode was the Orville entering from the clouds, the rest of it looked like a doctor who episode.

Star Trek was always progressive.
The characters usually acted like quasi-military professionals, though. The Disco cast are anything but professionals. They act like they are about to come to blows every episode and nobody can follow a direct order. Appaerently this is also a good thing, with the emphasis on individualism and 'heritage' and other nonsense buzzwords.

please read any of the 200 threads before this for in depth discussion as to why trek was never sjw, tool.

but i actually disagree with that guy too as this show isnt sjw mostly. the sjw stuff was more the staff on twitter and the terrible marketing approach.

are you kidding? it went from the shitty cgi we all came to love and expect from the orville to movie quality this episode. it was great.

>disco not std
>startrek was always progressive!
oh god get out you've been rebutted so many times. you might have better luck shilling here if you didnt attack the fans this way

>star trek was never progressive
>reeeeee
Keep reaching for that shit bucket that is your opinion user.

yeah you might want to leave. nobody bother replying to trannies and shills like this. sage thread or ignore them. pandoras box has been opened.

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>startrek was always progressive!
Well since Roddenberry basically envisioned the future to be a perfect moneyless, communist, utopia where everybody gets along, I think that would be an accurate assessment.

fuck you guys, we finally get some new star trek and you shit all over it. we NEED to support this show if we want more star trek, if you are a true trekie buy a subscription and spread the word

Can this actress make another face that isan't unhappy soul sista? what an annoying uncharismatic pille of cells.

season one was bad
season two is new bad

She's a fine actress. Is it really that bad?

To be fair, "modern progressives" and "old commies" have tons of differences.

sounds like you havent watched the show. they had money, the show was sexist as hell to start with and every single series except STD has revolved around classifying people as races and defining behaviours that come with those races.

Not the point, this was summed up in another thread nicely by an user who said something like:

TNG and star trek is about tolerance and thinking, the type that modern progressives are completely opposed to. Picard and janeway and sisko would all have hated and fought against sjws, and they did in many ways when ideology comparable to modern progressive ideology was showcased.

They're flat panning shots with no character involvement at all, the single scene of the Ba'ul revealing itself and getting attacked by Saru was than all the CG in that Orville episode.

yes std has better cg we know. it just goes to show how much cg is praised in a good show (orville) and how much it doesnt help STD become less disliked at all.

No, you go fuck yourself, STD isn't star trek, looks like it won't even be around for another season, and I'm glad let this abomination die.