Why did fantasy never catch on in film like sci-fi/capeshit did...

Sci-fi are usually disguised thought experiments.

What is sword and sorcery really? Self-insert world-saving heroes?

It is popular but there have been too many bad fantasy films

No, this time it's green goblin pussy

This. You can make a strong argument that everything from Star Wars to most of Disney's Animated movies to a large amount of supernatural horror films are technically fantasy films.
As for fantasy in the sense OP means, I think it has to with most franchises don't really have as good world building nor as well put together structure as LOTR, so they tend to feel like either a clone, cheesy, or fly under the radar. Indie films put a bit more effort into trying to stand out, but often as a result of their budget feel even more like a clone or cheesy. The Mythica movies are example that come to mind - they're honestly not bad, but they also feel cheap and a little too silly because of this.

Fantasy is now problematic because it enforces traditional gender roles

Harry Potter numbnuts

I find fantasy movies like LotR extremely boring. But my peepee is hard.

Star wars and capeshit are fantasy though.

the inside of their holes aren't scaly

Fantasy is more of a video game genre
Sci-fi is more of a movie genre

>ywn have a plump shortstack goblin gf to manhandle
Why live?

Artist user ?

>why didn't fantasy catch on

>WHY DIDN'T FANTASY CATCH ON

THE NUMBER ONE FUCKING OVERDONE THING IS TOLKIENY FANTASY.

Lord of the Rings
Game of Thrones
Star Wars
Harry Potter
Conan
Xena
Highlander
Disney Movies
The Witcher
Dark Souls
Demon Souls
Goblin Slayer
Monster Hunter
Dragon Age
Elder Scrolls
Jesus christ, that shit is over fucking done.

>Conan
>Highlander
>Disney movies
>Harry Potter
>tolkieny
I'll even give you SW but not every fantasy story with swords is inspired by Tolkien, just most of them

It did, and has always been huge. The GOT replacement series is set to be the chronicles of amber, get ready kid.

what we're really lacking is dark elves on film

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This thread needs more 2d legs and feet

It also needs more green, bodypainted pusy

same thing was true for capestuff just a couple years ago.

>technically fantasy films
If you have to argue that it's *technically* a fantasy film, it isn't.

Because outside of LOTR, Conan, Harry Potter and ASOIAF, no truly big and popular fantasy universe has been used
>no Warhammer
>no Wheel of Time
>no Malazan
>no Black Company
>Warcraft came 10 years too late and wasn't too good
>Dark Tower was utter garbage

What is ironic about Skyrim?

Warhammer really would have benefitted from a gritty eighties/early nineties style animation when that was still acceptable to make.

Film is an objectively inferior medium, it's hard to do any kind of worldbuilding in the 90 minute format, which is what fantasy relies on, there's a reason the most successful fantasy movie is a trilogy that is 11.5 hours long.

feet

he says what we're all thinking

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B'd & RP'd

Most of those have nothing to do with Tolkien. Also, why are you including video games?

Warhammer could be fucking great even as live action, especially now that edgefests like Witcher/GoT are popular
>no Gotrek & Felix adventure series
>no Brunner series
>no series about a Witch Hunter who uncovers Chaos cults rooted deep within the highest ranks of Imperial society
>no Band of Brothers styled miniseries about a regiment of Imperial state troops, as they battle Beastmen, Greenskins, Undead, and all manners of horrific Chaos abominations

You called?

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>THE NUMBER ONE FUCKING OVERDONE THING IS TOLKIENY FANTASY.
Not really. Capeshit takes that title easily

how can one man be so based?

About the same thing as sci fi but instead of science it’s magic.

Point is mostly the interactions that take place.

>Xena
user, what are you even doing

Calm down and suck on some Yea Forums toes

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Tolkieny Ye Old Swords and Shields stories were fucking overdone back when white people used to be medieval!

That was 500 years ago senpai.

Superhero movies? What? 10 years? ooh so overdone booo boo

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*ahem* I'm here to save the fantasy genre.

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It had something of a moment in the 80s when a lot of adventure movies were being made in general.

But they've been struggling to figure out how to adapt it successfully. As we so often discuss, the only two really brilliant adaptations were Lotr and Conan, and Lotr had long been considered unfilmable.

Actually though GoT seems to have given companies more confidence in their ability to produce fantasy as series instead of movies, for some reaon. There are like a dozen big fantasy series in the works, ranging from the Lotr one, a Conan one, three different GoT prequel series, Wheel of Time, Narnia, a Terry Pratchet story I think, the Dark Crystal, etc etc etc.

>Tolkieny

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Half the things you listed were video games you retarded Yea Forums child

Warhammer would be awesome, but its world is so baldly, fundamentally fascistic and imperialistic it couldn't be adapted right now with its essence intact. Everything has to be in terms of 'resistance' right now, leaving aside it's all thoroughly corporate.

>no dark comedy Thanquol series

On the one hand, the political elements are generally parody, or at worst a dark comedy about how the worlds so shit that’s the only option, but I suppose asking people to grasp that in the current year is asking too much

..and?

Kim Ha Yeong

if only 3d women looked like this
*sigh*

>green orc pussy would have the texture of a snake or crocodile

GIB

Just make it in the style of Starship Troopers and lay it on real thick, with no one in-universe acknowledging it.

>he wants hollywood to do Dark Elves
Are you insane, user?

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how fricken young are you bruh

that's because all capeshit and most current sci-fi IS fantasy
the niche is filled to bursting

500 years ago there were no entertainment industries that had to churn out a never-ending series of polished products that were filed down on the edges to be marketable to the most people possible. If anything 500 years ago stories had a smaller variance because people's worlds were very much smaller. You need elements people can understand. And thus taking inspiration from folk myths, fables and tales already in people's minds is a good way to connect with your audience. And it was rather hard to "overdo" a certain kind of story, since stories could not be broadcoast and hammered at the globe one after another. If you are just a wandering minstrel show playing for villages or smaller towns or at a local lord's manor, a story stays fresh, because chances are your audience won't have seen it before. And apart from certain classic plays, that are expected to be put on a certain way, every troupe had great leeway in how to produce their shows, so a story was more a skeleton filled with the skills of whoever put it on. In contrast, these days if a movie is released, chances are you won't get a differently flavoured retelling for at least a few years. And even then it will probably be a reboot, not the same story per se. That original one still stays onchanged.

It's boring, there's never any stakes when the answer to everything is do some magic. I much prefer science fiction where the answer to everything is do some technology.

Spellbinder w Kelly Preston is the best fantasy movie.

Tolkien ripped off LoTR from Wagner's Ring Cycle but (((they))) refuse to admit it. Punched a DragonCon employee for trying to argue against this.

>couple years ago
this isnt even the real beginning of the modern era
imdb.com/title/tt0371746/

In an age of insincerity and insecurity people can't appreciate things that are simple and joyful

It's obviously normalfag pandering fake nerd shit.
It's incredibly obvious when you compare it to previous entires in the series
>Removal of attribute. Planning your character is nerdshit
>Reduction of magic into various colored arrows. No spell creation either. Compare this to oblivion and morrowind
>Vikings! theme, after oblivion was retconned into generic fantasy land. Contrast with morrowind which was it's own fantasy setting.
>Dragons
>Chosen one plotline
>EPIC tryhard chanting and orchestra soundtrack
>Game is hilariously imbalanced, but that's fine because only nerds would play the game long enough to realize this
>Handholding gameplay, it's practically impossible to lose (only time I have ever consistently lost in Skyrim is against the first dragon while rushing it so I haven't leveled up or gotten anything but basic start equipment or levels)
>Shitty and exremely simple combat, scarcely a tier above fucking MINECRAFT. Wouldn't want to scare normalfags away with complexity.
>EPIC killcams

Seriously, just play through as a generic sword and board nord fighter (which is what) and you can see the game is clearly balanced around that playstyle. You won't lose against anything, but it's not a total cakewalk either.
But as soon as you branch out (a normalfag WON'T do this. They'll be done with the gamer after a single playthrough, if that) you the imbalances are glaring. Stealth archery? Lol.
Mage? The attacking magic literally does not scale...in a loot treadmill game. But who cares, it's only noticeable after a while at which point normalfags would have stopped playing the game anyways.
Once you get into smithing and enchanting you can basically just uninstall, because there is no longer anything that can challenge you and due to the way the game is designed there is no reason to ever NOT level smithing and enchanting.