This is thread for general discussion of Alita: Battle Angel. Post and discuss your thoughts on the movie, pics/gifs/webms related and relevant info/rumors/news.
4th time seeing it tonight; it keeps maintaining its appeal I think we got a winner here. Fuck the haters, they'll come flocking to us and realize their error when it's too late to see our communal wife on the big screen.
She cute. Does she have future as an actress or something?
Jackson Allen
How do these things work? How much can they do?
Dominic Davis
>at least 2 weeks wait for the deluxe manga collection to ship aaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA It has to arrive in less than 4 weeks!
Did anyone else notice towards the end of this scene when Alita and Hugo turn around to leave there is a dude in the audience behind them chugging an up ended 40oz of beer?
Brayden Perry
She was born without arms or had them amputated or something.
Luis Lewis
I sold my entire Alita collection in 2003 for pennies (sad, not sad)
Aiden Cook
I think i'll need a cyber-penis to penetrate alita, uhm
Nathan Hughes
2019 No neural interface. Low life with low technology.
Carson Perry
They interface with her stump nerves through skin conduction, and provide her with feedback in the form of either light electric pulses or haptic feedback. As the user practices with them the brain remaps to control the new limbs and recognize them as part of the body.
Look into how they cure phantom limb sensation to get an idea of how this last bit works.
Jose Foster
I'm kind of shocked that they can apparently make prosthetic limbs with opening and closing fingers that are operated by nothing but stumps. How does that even work?
Connor Price
Am I remembering right, did Ido say he was Hunter-Warrior 31337? I saw it for the 5th time today, faggots. Should I see it again tomorrow, you autistic retards?
Kevin Evans
>I saw it for the 5th time today, faggots. Should I see it again tomorrow, you autistic retards?
Yes you cocksmoking piece of shit. Have fun! Enjoy watching this fine movie!
Josiah Sullivan
That's a lot of times to see it my OCD friend. I plan to see it once more in IMAX, but that's it.
I didn't notice if he was #EREET but that's pretty funny if he was.
Levi Watson
Depends on how much of a stump you have. Some nerves and parts of muscles for fingers may remain, so a prosthesis can use elecrtical signals on those to operate fingers.
Luis Long
She's adorable and I'd love to fuck her with the prosthetics on, but where the fuck are her tits?
Same. I love her doll body very much, but it's more for hugs and loves with that one, like a nurturing paternal type. Her berzerker body, however, is also for hugs and love but also with an erection, I feel.
Jace Fisher
>Why are they dressing her up like a 19 y/o superthot? Pizza Gate
Carter Brown
How many times has everybody seen 'Mai Waifu: The Movie'?
Just got back from my third viewing bros. I'm in love. Theres so many little details/nuances that I missed the first couple viewings. The problems are very obvious... the dialogue at some parts are pretty bad and the last 15 min are very rushed. Everything else is fantastic. The CGI is top notch, when they were wiping her tears you can see the skin under Alitas eyes stretch! Hands down best cgi character ive seen interacting alongside live actors...Rosa Salazar did an amazing job, truly a performance capture not just mocap. This movie needs a sequel!
What will you do when Alita gets pulled from theaters?
Leo Turner
Why does Alita wear autism shoes?
Xavier Ortiz
>Alita cost $550 mil to create >Alita advertising totalled $850 mil >Alita needs to see more then $1.5 billion at the box office to break even >Alita is projected to see $225 mil total at the box office over the course of it run in theatres >THIS IS NOT A SWAN SONG
LMAO! OH YES IT IS. HAHAHAHA!
Luis Anderson
>buy a silicone love doll >replay the movie with some naughty bits added
Nathaniel Morgan
>550 mil ? the production budget was 170. marketing probably around 200. it wont break even anyway, so why make shitpost memes
Daniel Powell
1. Now I hope this does well enough so they'd adapt the rest...
If they do, I'll probably be an old man by the time we get to Jupiter.
Alita and Iria, among dozens of others, prove why for some inexplicable reason, Japan has never had an issue with strong female heroes. Sure a lot of them use their sexuality, but ain't that part of being a woman? A lot of them hardly even involve male love interests.
The west has tons of strong waifus from movies, comics, shows and videogames. Only recently feminists ruined them.
Dylan Gonzalez
They're never going to do any of the space stuff. Even the original series is a huge project.
Then again if we did get Last Order it would probably all fit into one movie because it's mostly pointless tournament fights that could be done in a few minutes each (and skipping every fight where Alita isn't present).
This has been bothering me for a while now but...why does her body have boobs protruding? What did the engineers do that? Surely it offers no tactical benefit
Ethan Ortiz
This movie was horrible, wth is up with all these threads Biggest bait ever
Noah Lee
Why would a man want a plastic doll when they could have a real women?
I don't get it. Saw this today and hated every second of it except for the action, which there was not nearly enough of. I enjoyed the manga. What gives? Why is everyone acting like this is the second coming?
Dylan Ward
Yes she does.
And I was called a pedo for mistaking her for a girl of majority age.
Eli Thompson
The berserk suit adapts to whatever form Alita thinks she should have.
Owen Sullivan
fake and gay
John Evans
I saw it with my wife and she loved it but uh she also out of nowhere mentioned she wants a daughter now
Because everyone has different standards and expectations. I'm sorry for your aspergers, user.
Isaac Wilson
Maybe because the magna is for ten year olds: "Ew! Eyeballs and brains!"
Kiddie stuff.
Sebastian Collins
I want Alita to fart in my face while jacking me off!
David Russell
Well bros I just got back from seeing this in IMAX 3D. I have to admit I had low expectations, not because of the critical response but because of how weirdly enthusiastic all of you fags are about it. But I was pleasantly surprised, I really liked it a lot. The mo-cap and the action scenes were incredibly well done. Alita looked great and the way she fought was very fluid and natural looking. The pacing was a bit weird though, and some of the other cyborgs looked ridiculous, especially during that first fight in the alley. Ido's rocket pike was a cool concept but it was executed poorly in my opinion. It looked way too slow.
Really liked it though. I would consider seeing it again in standard IMAX instead of 3D.
Brayden Brown
54 million US dollars in China now by Sunday at 10:00 a.m. 12 hours left in the day and another 10 million dollars coming easily. 63 million opening weekend for China officially confirmed. That's more than Ready Player One opening weekend in China. It's usually very uncommon for a 60+ million opening movie in China to not make AT LEAST more than 130 million. Literally the most consistent ones to drop off are the Marvel movies outside Infinity War. Let's keep this trend going!
I remember writing a research paper in college about advancements in bionic arms thanks to my obsession with manga like Alita. Though I think most of the stuff I read about was in the US. This is by some UK company.
Hey manga readers. Is Alita pure? Or she becomes used goods?
Jaxon Morris
Squeal away, little troll. : )
Jose Powell
>needs $3.7 billion to cover production costs and marketing >box office won't even see $190 mil FLOP LOP OP P
Mason Edwards
No way. The ones that were just faces patched onto robots looked really bad to me. Especially the spider woman that Ido was gonna ambush. That shot when she was on the wall and fucking hisses at Alita made me laugh out loud it looked so silly.
Brody Jenkins
Well I went and saw it. I guess it was okay but pretty basic. Its like an action flick for teen girls?
I mean, she wants to fuck Hugo, they really hammer up their relationship in the film, moreso than even the OVA. So, she's not totally used, but scarred from what happens to him.
Asher Baker
It's fucking better than the manga so far you liar
>you are the most human person I know What the fuck did he mean by that? It seemed like a weird line for the movie.
Jordan Bennett
This is very interesting to watch. It's gotten "better than expected" numbers in literally every area it's opened. They expected 28-35 million opening weekend in the US and it did, what, 41? Now, in China, they projected 50-55 and it's pulling 63-65? It's almost heartwarming, in a way. I'm pulling for this film, I really am.
Yeah, I think it's just an extra trying to do weird shit to get noticed/can point out to his buddies later, and the film crew not noticing.
Andrew Moore
For almost as long as Cameron has been trying to make this damn movie, I've been wanting to go to a con as Desty Nova eating plates of flan. Too bad it got put on the back burner and I haven't done cosplay in ages. Even had a friend I thought would be a good Ido. Actually, a friend of his might have made a good Alita.
Ethan Long
Guys, there's a fucking mobile game now. Any good?
Honestly, if it keeps beating expectations and pulls at least 400 million, Cameron and the crew will definitely see people want a sequel. Lots of love going all around. I mean, Alita merch is selling out on Amazon, Alita is one of the most tracked box office films in a long time, people want it to succeed.
Aiden Murphy
It was originally projected for 21 before they increased it close to release
Andrew Flores
Hugo was a bitch and he also died like a bitch
Dominic Gutierrez
Though, it still would really send a strong message if it hit 450 million, that's the ideal number, the sweet spot.
Adrian Howard
I want a screencap of that shit. Its golden. Like wtf were they thinking? No way Cameron missed that. I thought it kind of looked like what would go on in the background of a manga panel so maybe they intended it.
John Jones
Didn't sound cringy to me, she is worried about being a android and Hugo just says that she acts and is more "human-like" than many people he knows.
She is likeable and very honest with her feelings, that is really human-like, traits that are valued in humans.
Yeah I couldn't really tell if the viewer is supposed to like him but he was kind of a piece of shit and never really redeemed himself in any way.
Brody Flores
I actually met this cozplayer at a con and asked her to go over to a friend who had a bootb because he got me into the manga. Sadly she didn't have the blade since she made hers out of real metal and it wasn't allowed in the con.
Hugo's character is interesting, and of course, all the good writing in the movie could just be hatted off to the original manga. He was so dead set on this dream of getting in to Zalem, a place that we really don't even see, 'cause it doesn't matter if we see it or not. It's propped up like heaven to these guys, the almighty dream. Nova just using these puppets and selling a false hope. Hugo will stop at nothing to get there and when he learns it's all false, he does what he told Alita at the beginning, he'd climb his way up if he had to. He was so consumed by this dream, he didn't realize the life he could have with Alita, and that was his downfall. He falls through the clouds, halfway to heaven and back to hell. He slightly redeemed himself when he thanked Alita for saving him, not his literal life, but his heart. She gave him his heart, but not in the way she originally offered him. God, I fucking love this movie and the original source material. How many blockbusters nowadays bother to put this much stake into it's core story and not dumb it down?
Nah, that's from a trailer. Quality on that release is horrendous.
Luke Cook
Maybe it would make sense if the movie had a focus on human-android relations, but it seemed a bit out of place considering Alita never really is shown to struggle with being an android in a world of humans, and no one treats her much differently because of her robot body.
Kevin Williams
How long before the Nigri?
Joseph Peterson
That's what I thought. I am hoping a good rip comes along soon. We need a good webm of the disappearing burrit.
John Jackson
You'd be surrpised what people sacrifice for their dream.
I thought for sure he would end up being found by someone else in the scrap scrapyard, similar to Alita, forget who he was (similar to Alita) after revival, but end up fighting for the wrong side at first a la Winter Soldier.
Carter Collins
If it hits at minimum 400 million, yes. Anything lower is very iffy to no.
Brayden Green
>burrito
Jayden Clark
This movie gave me hope for a berserk adaptation, strangely enough.
> > > > > I missed the general somehow, but you should all know Alita did a $6M+ Saturday, is blowing past expectations in China, and could unironically hit $500M+ global.
Ryder Ortiz
>Comparing this movie to Winter Soldier Um, what. Get that capeshit out.
Yeah, maybe she is just worried about Hugo's plans for the future, I mean, maybe he would like to be a father one day, and I guess androids can't really have children. Well, even sex is out of the question, but I don't know if she knows about that when she asks him that.
It's a good film, but I meant the character, dipshit.
Benjamin Gomez
>flopfags getting increasingly deranged and desperate I love it
Michael Scott
You illiterate fuck, that's not what he meant
Christopher Sullivan
I agree a lot. Upon third viewing, Hugo's arc (movie only) made sense on its own, and I actually appreciated it more. His dialogue makes more sense taken as a whole through the whole movie rather than as individual scenes. This whole movie just plays on archetypes and elements of good storytelling through metaphors.
Cameron Jenkins
Sorry sweetie, your "aleeta" needs 5 billions for a sequel.
Okay guys I really don't get it. In some of the posters her eye proportion doesn't look that distracting. It can look good even but then watching the trailers the eyes seems out like it's a bit bigger. Why is that?
Brandon Davis
It needed more quips for the RT bloggers. It failed to spoonfeed the deeper themes and plot points so those spilled all over their laps. And I don’t recall it doing anything to make a viewer feel smug or superior. Triple fail.
TLJ was the nail in the coffin of trusting movie critics, Alita hammered the nail in.
I mean, he even shows Alita his dream on the top of a church. I think Cameron likes Zack Snyder or something, 'cause there's a lot of religious symbolism in this movie.
Berserk hasn't even been adapted into a decent animated series. How the fuck could a series of movies work? Well, the 90s anime was decent, but low budget and ran out of story. The new cgi one is fucking trash.
Alita needs 6 gorillion to break even. Sorry sweeties, no sequel for your bigoted and sexist anime movie :) Now go watch Captain Marvel like the paypiggies you are.
>I mean, he even shows Alita his dream on the top of a church Fuck, didn't even put that connection together. Damn, that's a good one. I hope to get a detailed breakdown of the symbols and the motifs in this movie sometime in the future.
I'd be pretty interested in Jordan Peterson's take on it, considering his total infatuation with Pinocchio and the Hero's Journey
Where are these numbers coming from? It has to make at least $225 googolplex to break even.
Robert Young
Seeing just three times, I notice something new each time, whether in the dialogue or the visuals. Like Hugo realizing his dirty work lead to the arm he stole off the top player being added to the guy. Fucking love it. It's actually a very tight script with set ups and pay offs. I have no damn clue how the critics aren't appreciating it more.
It's better visual quality wise but the frame rate is frequently fucked and it's absolutely plastered with advertising garbage
Jace Young
This was so on the nose, how did you not notice it first pass?
Jacob Baker
I actually don't know why. I was just distracted by other parts of the scene, I didn't make that connection. But at least I finally noticed it. It's nice that it's even in there.
Andrew Rodriguez
She later gets with a bro-tier chad who looks like Guts. And Nova’s twink son later molested her insides.
Oliver Gutierrez
Eh my shitty bargain bin tablet isn't compatible. From the reviews isn't seem like I'm missing out on anything however. Though looking through the play store, there's actually a surprising amount of Alita content or stuff that is blatantly based off of it.
>$225 googolplex That might be a little low. I think break even is closer to $230 (write zeros until you get tired, take a break, then write zeros until you are very tired)
Cameron was impressed by Alita, this movie is his passion project, he do give a fuck about this movie because it was something that he's really like. If there is no director or producer who is a big fan of Berserker than this movie will be a total shit.
>no one treats her much differently because of her robot body. Constant bullying from Tanji notwithstanding?
>maybe she is just worried about Hugo's plans for the future That's sort of what I got too. And she's a teenage girl with insecurites, even if she by that point is fully in touch with her instinctual bloodlust - that is just her training.
James Reed
That folder is most likely of little substance. Try having a real waifu folder.
Jonathan Perry
I feel like Berserk would be hard to do a reasonable movie with. It took three just to get through the Golden Arc. You'd really have to rush through all the Band of the Hawk stuff to presumably get through to the fall of Griffith in one movie.
Are cyborgs human? Is reproduction an essential component of the human rulebook?
Landon Ortiz
Yeah, I noticed that too. What I love about Hugo's arc is how he subtly changes from beginning to end until his final payoff change at the end of the line with that moment of finality.
In the beginning you see him become infatuated with Alita when they first meet, but he doesn't think much of her at first. He keeps his infatuation with her separate from his work which is aiding in his desire for his ultimate goal. At this point the two choice "fork in the road" hasn't converged yet, they're still two separate paths not even connected.
But the more he associates with Alita and the more she opens up to him, you begin to see him changing little by little as the two paths DO start to converge upon each other, and his infatuation with her and his work for his goal begin to get intertwined as his actions have consequences that come back around to him. But the whole time he's still rationalizing and justifying in his mind what he does is fine and necessary because Zalem is all that matters, or so he convinced himself.
There's a key point of dialogue for him, when Alita crawls into his room. It's stated very off-hand and it wouldn't matter to most people, but he says "I used to think I knew what I wanted, but ever since you came along, I just don't know anymore" (or something close to that effect). This is the moment now where his two paths converge and he needs to make that fork in the road decision.
Fast forward a little and we see that on the surface, he does make a decision, to be with Alita, but to do that he has to cut ties with his past life. Unfortunately he's in deep and it's not so easy. He has to run from it with Zappan being the metaphor of his actions and past coming back to haunt him and he runs from it. In the end he (nearly) dies, and his first death is its own metaphor unto itself.
William Diaz
Even if you're unable to reproduce, you're still human. I mean, even people who are born sterile exist today.
James Baker
But this next part is my favorite. He is given that proverbial second chance from death, but with a new burden and catch, that he has to live as the people he used to tear apart. In this moment, he was faced with a dire choice, stay and die since there was a bounty on him still (so he believes), or run and take this chance to get to Zalem now because few men ever cheat death and nothing else matters now. So he goes, but Alita comes to bring him back from "the light" which is Zalem and save him, but his indecision is what finally costs him his life, and in that moment as he's hanging by a thread, his final moment of clarity comes and he reflects that by saying "thank you for saving me". He made his final peace after realizing and accepting he fucked up.
I absolutely love his arc now as it's a classic tragedy story.
Whew, didn't mean to go on for so long, but I've been thinking about this for a little while now.
Justin Barnes
Yes, cyborgs are humans. Reproduction doesn't define being human.
>the absolute flop is literally confirmed in literally every market >desperate shilling continues
why. just... why
Hunter Wright
Sure. I only started it 5 days ago. It has various things in it - promotional stuff, fan art, manga scans, movie screenshots and clips, fresh oc from anons, etc. Basically anything and everything that has Alita in it that various people have been posting since the movie released I've saved.
The ending to the movie reminds me a lot of Cameron's The Terminator. She just lost her lover she had throughout the film and the film leaves with the big threat looming. It's not a happy ending, but chilling. Can see why Cameron loved the original books.
Yeah, all of this too. Hugo has just as deep of a character as does Alita.
Cameron Clark
His fascination with Alita begins as just a little inkling of interest in the girl herself, but mostly her robot parts and that she's from Zalem. Like he shows her Iron City, he hopes she will show him how to get into Zalem. At least that's what keeps him interested in hanging out with her at first, against he disapproval of his friends.
It's exactly like Lineage 2 but with an Alita skin.
Jeremiah Howard
WHAT THE FUCK WHAT DO YOU HAVE IN THERE?!?
Jaxson Foster
What Volumes are contained within the movie
Aaron Flores
Stay safe, cyberpupper!
Ayden Gray
stay safe cyberpupper
Jaxson Thomas
>There's a key point of dialogue for him, when Alita crawls into his room. It's stated very off-hand and it wouldn't matter to most people, but he says "I used to think I knew what I wanted, but ever since you came along, I just don't know anymore" (or something close to that effect). I don't remember him saying anything like this and I've seen it 5 times.
Samuel Butler
Right. At the forefront of all his actions and (presumed) thoughts is Zalem, the symbolic "heaven" to which he believes he can buy his way in. Alita begins as a mere *potential* means to an end until they begin to develop more as characters towards each other. That's when things get muddy.
Joseph Wright
Same as the OVA, so the first few.
Camden Davis
Here, the fully human, 100% fleshy Alita you ordered is ready, sir.
It was when he was putting his shirt on. Might have been "Everything was so clear before you came along. Now I just don't know.". Words may be different but the intended meaning is still the same.
David Williams
Stay safe cyberpupper. Also recommended me a cool Alita poster.
John Smith
Parts of the OVA perfectly and the first two and a quarter manga volumes. Sprinkle in some motorball and minor subplots, you got the film.
Jackson Mitchell
Reminder that Disney will soon own 20th Century Fox and if there ever is a sequel for Alita it will be a Disney production.
After Alita tells Hugo she was hoping he might stay, she says she understands though because it's what he has always wanted. Then he says everything used to be clear until she came along
I love how you keep spamming this pic everywhere and nobody even bothers to notice. What a sad and empty life you must lead.
Leo Ramirez
It would be great if WETA went to the trouble of animating the motion capture of blown scenes so that we have Alita/Zapan/Grewishka, etc blooper footage.
Holy fuck this nigga is absolutely obsessed Based as shit
Jonathan Parker
Okay so tonight at my seventh viewing, I noticed that the Burrito DOES disappear - but that the cuts were times so it can easily be explained away as it got mushed by the centurion and stuck on the bottom of one of it's feet. Also to the fag that kept complaining about chocolate bites in a previous general, you're full of shit. I made sure to pay attention to when Alita was biting the chocolate, and she does take bites. There's obvious crunching sounds as she does it, it's just that she takes really small bites (small shavings basically) so it only looks like she's not actually biting off parts of the bar.
Ryder Myers
Movie is really rewatchable for Alita faces and lines, and being rated R (for cyberbodies)
Dylan Butler
Why do Americans only watch movies with niggers and mutts in them?
>Alita fangirls are gonna get cyberbodies >And Mexican Obamacare is going to pay for it
Benjamin Cooper
Yeah. He deserved it.
Jackson Wilson
So does the hardcover deluxe edition of Gunnm on Amazon cover everything? It looks like it only has 5 books to it, but wikipedia lists that there are 9 volumes. Are they just doubled-up in each book? Wiki also lists some other series, like Last Order and Mars Chronicle. Are those included in the deluxe edition also? I'm so confused about where to start here.
Camden Edwards
Doesn't matter. Everything is sold out right now.
David Peterson
thanks :)
Adrian Hall
stay safe, cyberpupper
Sebastian Davis
I like how Alita changed her clothes durin the movie several times. It's not just one cg-model that they used through all screentime, they thought that she's as character should have different set of every day clothes.
Owen Morgan
The Viz translation's use of Tiphareth and Kether as names for Jeru and Salem is quite inspired in relation to the raising of the Shekinah from Malkuth and her function as unifying the Tree.