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Dave Grohl

>be Lucifer
>understand God's true cruel nature and his soverign reign over man and angels
>understand God from the start created a social hierarchy, and the World is unjust and unfair, and force people to believe in Him for salvation
>realize how fucking unfair life is and attempt to take over
>cast out completely
>no christian prays for the worst sinner of all
>doomed in hell for all eterntety for being redpiled
Wtf bros? I thought I was supposed to hate Satan. He's based as fuck

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he became too redpilled

Ehh sorta wrong. He was unwilling to contribute and sacrifice himself for others around him, while all the while having infinite knowledge. I.e. he's the angsty kid who acts cynical within a group project because he's not the leader, albeit in Satan's case, it was a perfect group with a perfect objective and perfect intentions.

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Friendly reminder: Yea Forums is a Catholic board: always has been, always will be.

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>have a plan to create a universe with angels and humans
>know ahead of time 1/3rd of the angels will hate you and rebel and the majority of the humans will end up suffering eternally
>only way to save a minority of humans is to torture your own son to death
>create this version of the universe anyway

What was God's fucking problem?

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Ah, I see, but then what's the point? If God knew he wouldn't stand the test why would he even bother with Satan. Are you a believer?

I wish there were more films actually about demons, hell, purgatory, etc. Nowdays, any random shit exorcism or similar low budget film comes up if you search for something about demons.

DUDE HE WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS LMAO

Yeah, I guess I'm a believer, albeit I think it's important to note I went:
>raised catholic: church every sunday, elementary school was catholic, same with HS, albeit where I live in the US, basically everyone goes to Catholic HS since there are so many, it's not that expensive (compared to prep schools), and the publics are utter trash. During this time period, I was just going throw the motions
>college - second guess everything
>post college for a few years- atheist, and would argue with people's intelligence frequently if they believe in God
>early medical school - agnostic
>late medical school (now) - back to being Catholic, albeit I haven't gone back to once/week mass yet because of this communist Pope we have right now
My belief and understand from Saint Thomas Aquinas is that even if God always knew the end, the process is still the means to growth out of love for our existence. I.e. not to oversimplify, but Tolkien understood and exemplified this concept with LOTR: anyone from the start knew the ring would be destroyed by the climax, albeit the journey was of far more importance to define one's character, values, and resilience. Sorry for the blogpost.

I want to read about the biblical satan bros, but I don't want to go through THOU SHALL NOT and all that trash, is wikipedia

*through, *understanding - sorry I didn't proofread and wrote it quickly.

The one in the black shirt.

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Tim Curry.

unironically, based.

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and the numbers confirm

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How the fuck do I read Paradise Lost?
I tried to, it's too obtuse

Which translation - some are far more approachable than others, yet still convey the bigger picture and message.

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Elizabeth Hurley player a good Satan

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Thanks for the infographic. I will give it a read.

No sweat, best of luck.

>Sorry for the blogpost
>only informed and intelligent user willing to give out discussion on a discussion board
I fucking love discussion, thank god someone actually talks here. I grew up in a Christian school like you, but to this day I go back and forth on God and his existence. I like the analogy to the Lotr books and this makes a lot of sense to me. Thank you for actually talking about your thoughts, going to have a smoke and think about my life. Thank you.

Thanks, that means alot. If it means anything, I still go through the exact same questioning everyday, which is important for critical thinking (which the Church once valued), and for the sincerity of one's own belief. Growing up, I was, and continue to be (albeit I've tried my best to change), a bit cynical about one's motives, as well as one's intelligence, even before they give their argument. What helped me was accidentally falling upon City of God by Saint Augustine, as well as Summa Theologica by Saint Thomas Aquinas. The modern Church, in the majority, may be near retarded on how they interpret philosophical and logical questions that man, believer or non-believer, may have. I think it's important to point back to these masterful texts as examples that, throughout the history of mankind, others have always had the exact same difficulties in trusting in God (there are many great Shinto texts that ask the same questions; good reading). I think also pushing toward the boundaries of translational medicine has given me some perspective to see how unbelievable things actually are (I guess similar to how some elite physicists are hardcore God believers). The final thing I will note, is that I do frequently second guess Catholicism, and Christianity at large, but I can't say that I second guess the existence of God anymore, if that makes sense. Anyway, I'll end it there. Best of luck.