Why is he evil again?

Retarded fucking character, he makes no sense just like the rest of nu wars.

Kill yourself frenchie you third world hole

Fpbp. Lack of melanin makes people evil.

is that pic new? what's he pointing at?

>Why is he evil again?
Because he has a penis and represents the big mean patriarchy.
Also, he's deep because of his edgy crossguard lightsaber with the unstable crystal and has a scar across his face, but he'll never defeat Rey, because Rey can do anything and everything since she's not a Mary Sue whatsoever. The Force is Female, after all.

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i dunno, might have something to do with killing Han Solo and throwing him away like a piece of trash

Red lightsaber = bad

Have you never seen a star wars movie before?

Incel

He wants things a certain way and has no problem murdering people to get it.

>be part of famous lineage of Force users and heir to the bloodline of space Jesus
>have raging insecurities and self-loathing because of the expectations of being part of such a famous family
>parents are absent in your life and pawn you off on your weird uncle to become a virgin space monk
>feel lonely and abandoned
>Dark lord starts whispering in your ear and says if you join the Dark side you can be le badass Sith Lord like Grandpa Vader
>Start to buy what hes selling but be conflicted
>Then your uncle pulls a lightsaber on you in your sleep, basically forcing your hand

What's so hard to understand about this?

There is not even enough information to determine who is fighting who, or for what. What is the Resistance? Is it a militia rebellion like the rebels alliance? It can't be because in TFA we are told that its allied or at least protected by the Republic, so what is it? What is it resisting? What does the name First Order imply? How is it governed? Is it an empire with an emperor or a military dictatorship? Does it have civilians?
Things like these are the basic premise of a movie, and both the OT and prequels either explained or showed theirs, or it was implied by the name, but for this you have to buy tons of books and comics just to understand the basic framework of the movies themselves....

wakey wakey hand off snakey

he sees through the lies of the jedi

>what was Snoke's tax policy?

They probably could've built up a lot of mystique around his character if he used Luke's old lightsaber instead of that klan cross.

because bad boys get the girls and nice guys finish last

Kylo you can actually extrapolate a character from albeit from clumsily put sources, I just wish others characters didn't have to be assassinated in order for it to be there.
Luke killing his nephew in his sleep is the absolute antithesis of his character, that's it that's the absolute rejection of the champion he was at the end of Jedi.

he said "nigger"

Because he's written by literal retard. They believe that stupid phrase we always hear about SW. Oh it's very dumb black guys evil, good guys in white, easy. We made a SW movie, give us the shekels

Rian Johnson played Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep and went "Wow wouldn't it be cool if Mark Hamill tried to kill a child in my movie too?"

That hurt my feeling, bro. Mainly cause I have no idea what it means.

You skip a week in this shithole and you run catchup forever.

>black guys evil, good guys in white, easy.
unbased

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*subversive deconstruction intensifies*

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>clumsily put sources
It's all in the movies nibba

>a bloo bloo not muh perfect champion Luke
Grow up.

Tax policies are too specific user, i just need a basic premise for the movie, never once in any of the two movies is it ever explained, or hinted at at what these two organizations actually are or what they want, you know, the basic conflict of the story? They don't make any logical sense in the Star Wars story, there is no information to go on and they outright contradict the earlier movies, and no one cares, the people at Disney only see them as a bicycle to drive their bad story.

Kill yourself gay tourist.

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>deconstruction
but thats the thing user, its not even a deconstruction. A deconstruction takes certain concepts slowly apart one by one, and then points out and discusses their possible flaws and hypocrisies. It takes, analyses, criticises and then transforms a thing into something. TLJ is a simple destruction, it only destroys and leaves nothing but apathy, and apathy is death.

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>Daddy wasn’t there
>Muh vision
>Muh feelings

>leaves apathy
Which is why theres a character specifically devoted to being an apathetic fence sitter and is portrayed as a villain who ultimately makes Finn commit to the Resistance

But Luke was sad and that hurt my feefees so clearly the movie is about nihilism and apathy ;_;

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>It's all in the movies nibba
Fucking where, everything is namedropped in the first movie and dropped in the second to subvert your expectations.
>Grow up
You will always be a disappointment Rian

based

I would like to know the reason that Luke dropped that sick black outfit and started wearing old man's robes.

So why did The Last Jedi throw out every plot point set up in The Force Awakens? I don't even particularly like Star Wars, but even I was scratching my head over this

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>because he keeled Han SOLOO DUHHH

Han was a shit dad and let his son get fucked over by his murder Uncle and creepy Snoke, he deserved death and he knew it which is why he doesn't even blame Kylo for killing him

>because he murdered GORILLIANS DUH

That was Hux and Snoke. Kylo was against the attack and he also didn't want to use child soldiers, thinking they should use clones. The ST program is Hux's, not Kylo's.

Yes there is. Kylo's family are supposed to be the great heroes but they are actually selfish shits who fucked up his childhood and the Republic are so incompetent they allowed the FO to rise and take over. They deserved to be wiped out.

he got old and abandoned any connection with the force, inluding that 'uniform'.

Han was a piece of trash and Kylo didn't throw him away, god you fanboys are so dramatic.

So the Jedi basically.

He asked why Kylo is evil, you just explained why he's not and did nothing wrong.

I think the EU material tried to explain it as him being emotionally vulnerable to Snoke's manipulations after finding out his grandfather was Darth Vader, but the actual emotional strings Snoke tugged are not explained. Kind of like how Jake's wakey wakey moment was the last straw but please don't ask what led up to it m'kay? Cause writing is hard or something.

People don't wear the same outfit their whole lives unless they're a character in comicbooks

Han did exactly that though

>Using Luke's sabre
That would've been good. It would imply Luke trusted him enough to give it to him during training before he turned, or that he seemingly killed Luke and took it (which would make Luke's reveal more meaningful). Han could probably recognise Luke's sabre and believe him dead etc

>unless they're a character in comicbooks
That's not true either. If that were so, Batman would still be wearing purple gloves, Iron Man would still look like a rust bucket, and Carol Danvers would still look like a supermodel and not a lesbian

>EU material

Are you fucking retarded? Leia says in TFA that Snoke was the one who seduced their son and that she never should have sent him away because that's when she lost him and Han. Luke basically says that Han obviously wasn't happy about sending Ben away in TLJ. Kylo says Han was a disappointment of a father and that he doesn't want to be like him and that Snoke is "wise."

You really need it spelled out word for fucking word for you? You don't get anything out of all of that? My fucking God, braindead losers like you don't deserve to watch movies. Stick to Saturday Morning cartoons.

Just watch again the picture you posted. Male. White skin. Probably straight. Then you have a couple of options which you can't ignore. Evil, denigrate the character and kill him or use him as a comic relief.

>klan cross

DUDRRRR It's a fucking claymore design you retard. Mater of the KNIGHTS of Ren. God you fucking losers are so dumb.

>muuh Luuuke

kek

Had got a new jacket. Leia mentioned it specifically in TFA.

Put your money where your mouth is and explain exactly how Snoke seduced Ben to become Kylo Ren.

>Had
*Han, obv.

Try actually paying attention to what is said instead of sperging out and going "this is reddit, this is memes" the whole time

Friendly reminder that it's just a movie. It's make-believe. It isn't real. None of it happened. You can relax.

Deep breaths.

Could have something to do with JJ being a hack, but I'm not 100% sure.

I didn't exactly say EVERY character. And Batman's had purple gloves for what 4 issues, and I'm not sure how long before Iron Man standardized. And these days it is more in flux, but pre-Crisis characters pretty much had to be on model. Maybe it was editorial, but mostly it was that even today a fuckload of artists have that samefaceitis problem so you better make the character instantly recognizable somehow.

Also, nobody ever cared about Carol Danvers.

But, honestly, for example Clark Kent wore the same blue suit in comics for decades and through out the whole Animated Series.
Also, I don't know Dick Tracy, Dylan Dog, Phantom.
It is a trope for a reason.

Actually according to nu wars leia is such a retarded cunt she didnt realize it was a different jacket. Cut your fucking throat zoomer nigger.

he's indirectly inspired by literally sam hyde

He have granddaddy issues

Watch the scene in TLJ where Snoke berates Kylo. Particularly the part where he says "when I found you..."

You people have been so poisoned by the prequels you need characters to wear their emotions on their sleeves and talk like robots to discern motivations and intent.

That's no different than the OT where everyone loved Vader.

I can't tell when apologists are trolls or actually genuine anymore.
Was the throne fight scene too deep for us plebs to appreciate too?

He commited patricide.

His dad deserved it. Should have taken Leia too.

Because they killed the other bad guy

when you love somebody you see the person and not their clothing

There will be no weaseling out of this, fuckboy. If Kylo's turn is so easy to understand, you should have zero issue spelling out the process for all of us alleged plebs. So quit stalling and get to writing.

>The mighty Kylo Ren. When I found you, I saw what all masters live to see: Raw, untamed power... and beyond that, something truly special. The potential of your bloodline. A new Vader.

Snoke came to Ben and said he could be le badass Vader. This is organic dialogue to establish characterization. This ksnt prequel tier shit where Anakin has specific scenes where he spells out OBIWAN DOESNT UNDERSTAND ME REEEE

>Which is why theres a character specifically devoted to being an apathetic fence
And he is so poorly written and so superficial and basic in terms of philosophy that i'd barely even call him a character, and more of a living plot device
>But Luke was sad and that hurt my feefees so clearly the movie is about nihilism and apathy ;_;
Alright, so baiting. Got it. Well here is your (you) now go on and don't spend it all in one place.
I mean its gotta be bait since you first of project a strawman i never even hinted at and then completely misunderstand my post.

The prequels are trash but don't try to pretend the sequels aren't trash too.

I'm talking about the disappearing knife.
Was that part of Rian's master plan?

Quote me where I mentioned Luuuke fucko.

What do you know about love? It's 2019 and you cant even give your cunt away.

OH NO I GOT BTFO SO LETS MOVE THE GOALPOSTS AND TALK ABOUT AN EDITING MISTAKE

Does RotJ suck because of the Force kick and Vader falling down for no reason?

Idiot. I hate the prequels for being horribly done, but at least Anakin's desire for power is actually fleshed out. We're told Kylo wanted to take after his badass grandfather. Okay. But what exactly in Kylo's life made this so fucking appealing, especially when he was already plenty powerful on his own? Why hide behind a failed legacy? Oh wait, it's never actually explained. Funny that.

>The prequels are trash
Kill yourself faggot

i'm saving it for some cunt special

I mean he murders Max von Sydow right off the bat. It’s poorly explained *why* when he needs what Max knows, but hey, random murders.

Because they wrote him as a villain.
"""Balance""" in the force means wiping out all darkness apparently

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Fuck off zoomer. Adults are talking.

Mouse Wars - Where you have to imagine your owl story lines.

yea nah

kys you obese boomer

>unironic apologists in this thread
Imagine being this fucking guy

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Ive enjoyed star wars since long before you were born kiddo

>But what exactly in Kylo's life made this so fucking appealing,

That his parents were absent in his life, dumped him on Luke, and then Luke almost murdered him in his sleep

>Anakin's desire for power is actually fleshed out
>I WONT LET YOU DIE IN CHILDBIRTH PADME I HAD A BAD DREAM IT MIGHT HAPPEN (funny how this is sufficient motivation for Anakin to do bad things but not Luke)
>Oh Hey Anakin I can help you save your wife
>oh really?
>Actually no I cant lmao
>WELP better betray all my friends and then murder children and then strangle my wife anyway

L M A O

Not possible since I saw star wars in the theater as a small child.

i see a freindship blossoming

did they oil him up?

no one expects you to understand hole

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But the tone is different.
Vader was the cool powerful bad guy, until the very end where he flipped.
Kylo has been murdering endeared people since the first scene in TFA, yet he's presented like almost a good guy. Very similar to Loki in Thor.
Shits just straight weird.

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Liar.

I can't be friends with someone who unironically likes the prequels.

Why is she good again?

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>he wasn't born in the late 70s

opposites attract. you guys should buttseks.

>OH NO SHE YELLED SHES CLEARLY EVIL

Reminder that women ruin everything

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>learn that both sides are bad
>"I'm ready to die for side X"

yeah, that was great.

That's sounds gay man.
Really gay.
Its only acceptable if traps

>you guys should buttseks
should have known this was a tumblr thread

Kill yourself faggot scum

You know you're not supposed to agree with DJ right?

Like how autists think "let the past die" is the actual message of the film you are completely misreading it

that was zoomer-tier retarded and i apologize

you want to actually explain why fighting for the restoration of the Republic is a good thing?

>not liking cute traps

Jake said Kylo had already turned before he momentarily took the lightsaber off his belt, ignited it, and held it up in prime murder position. You know, just an easy slip of the wrist.

Also
>parents not around enough
>welp better fawn over my failed Sith granddad and go full school shooter

That's not an explanation, that's a wild fucking leap from point A to point Z.

Further, I said Anakin's motives were fleshed out, not executed with competence. Since you're not that smart, let me elaborate:
>Anakin
>born a powerless slave
>only way out is the Jedi order
>turns out the Jedi are stupidly restrictive and suck ass
>feels his talents are being held back
>foresees his mom's death and tries to prevent it
>fails and sees it as a power issue
>admits he prefers an orderly strongman approach to government over the Republic's ineffective democracy
>Padme dying is mom scenario 2.0
>Sheev dangles the possibility of power the Jedi would never offer

I agree him going from desperate to child murder in five minutes was retarded, but then so are you.

>writing out this much of an argument against b8

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Kill yourself faggot scum

If you can't deduce why from all that information this is in the movies themselves, it's your own fault and I'm not going to spoonfeed you the answer that is clearly right in front of your inbred, deformed fucking face so you can trick other unsuspecting people into thinking you have a brain.

Go faggotize different thread.

Says the fanboy who has been posting here every day for a year to cry about "LUUUUKKKEEE"

Says the person arguing with an obvious b8er.
He's defending the sequel movies. Its b8. Stop arguing with him.

>If you ca--
Got it, you're another dime-a-dozen loudmouthed idiot who can't deliver. You can stop wasting all of our time now, thanks.

stop stalking me, creep

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I can't imagine what it's actually like to be this fucking braindead. Do you drink your food from a straw?

Assuming you're not the butthurt bait-boy, why exactly are YOU wasting time getting involved at all? Stopping arguments on Yea Forums is the biggest waste of time there is.

إis your reply button broken?

>NOOOOO WHY DO PEOPLE WANT TO FUCK KYLO HE MURDERED MY FAVE NOOOO YOUR ALL FUCKED UP REEEEE

Fairytale in space ya'll.

>n-no it's obvious don't ask me to explain because I totally can I really can I swear but I won't!!!

Kids' table is over there, now shoo.

>anyone who likes a movie I dont is b8ing!

If you had an ounce of self awareness of the ability to introspect youd realize you're the one with the personality disorder here

I don't know. She treats everyone she meets like shit and bashed an old man over the head and even comes off as the asshole in her relationship with Kylo.

>Idiot. I hate the prequels for being horribly done
Kill yourself

Literally no one like TLJ.
Especially on Yea Forums.

He's not evil. He's stupid and scared, and seeking order after everything he had previously believed in betrayed him all in one go. Think what Luke represents. Family, religion, and political structure. That all has to go, because it tried to hurt him. And what better to destroy it with than the Empire and the dark side of the force?

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>ya'll
Filthy fucking nigger

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i like it now just to spite you

Even normies are turning on nu wars. Just admit your company fucked up and move on to reddit shill

Reminder that TFA and TLJ received universal critical praise and the perception that people hate them is mostly exaggerated by screaming incels on the internet

But oh wait critics are all paid off L M A O

Regardless of your views on anything you have to realize mass murder is not a good look.

No one gives a fuck about Anakin anymore. Stay pressed shitter.

>inb4 he posts the Vader picture

Anakin and Vader are not seen as the same person in the fandom and that will never change. Die mad.

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What fairytale has the female lead fall in love with the one who tortured her and killed her only parental figure without him apologizing or doing anything to redeem himself?

>normies
you're one of them faggot

Its because women see being snobby, smug, know it all prick = being a stronk powerful women. You can see the same shit with brie "virtue signaling" larson with captain marvel.

>our

Do all deformed braindead losers type like this?

But wait I thought she was a Mary Sue who never did anything wrong

kek

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Stay pressed? Is that some new tumblrtard lingo to inflict on the world?

I saw it for the first time on netflix a few months ago. Hands down the worst movie ive ever seen. How anyone could defend it or say they enjoyed it is beyond me. As shit as the prequels are id watch phantom menace on repeat for a week straight before id ever watch TLJ again.

>rotten tomatoes
>TLJ: Critics: 91% Audience: 45%
Agreed. Sounds like either retarded critics or bought critics. Either way, the movie stunk.

God I can smell the virginity on you

I don't know, do you type like that?

She does plenty wrong, the problem is that the movies never acknowledge that those things are problems. Or if the movie does acknowledges it, it never goes anywhere.

>this pass for white in Burgerland

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Retards table is where you are at. Stay there. I'm not going to help you trick people into thinking you are smart. Keep waving your retard flag. Hold it high now so we can all see!

Snoke mind raped him too hard I guess.

>no u
checked!

I said shoo, diaper boy.

>he's stupid

No that would be Luke and the Republic and his parents. He literally has every reason to think the way he does. Acting accordingly doesn't make someone stupid.

He's not, he just suffers from prolonged teenage angst due to his parents abandoning him and his uncle trying to pull a Sheev

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Try to merit a better response in the future and we'll see about getting you that upgrade.

Good job, you are doing very well.

Luke saw so much evil in him that he almost killed his own nephew in his sleep. He saw Vader 2.0 except worse. But he's le good guy right? How do you explain that kylofags?

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>Stay pressed shitter.
>Anakin and Vader are not seen as the same person in the fandom and that will never change.
Die mad.
kek you could never pass for srar wars fan hole. keep fingering your hole to gyno ren tumblr.

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Ben/Kylo is stupid tho. He can't even make a proper saber.

t. pressed retard

I think your keyboard is having a stroke.

>the only value of a woman is her fuckholes and your access to them
Ahoy reddit!

>How do you explain that
Bad writing that raped Luke's character.
Luke would never give up on a family member.

His course of action was to team up with space Satan, kill his own parents, and five planets worth of people who didn't have much of anything to do with Luke's momentary lapse in judgment.
The Republic do deserve to be punished for being fucking dumb though.

Yes, I am, thank you. Try learning after my example, diaper boy.

Disgusting drowned rat kike face

What fairytale has the female lead hoot and holler after murdering people and bash an old man over the head?

Luke had a glimpse of everything Kylo would do, but eveything Kylo did was directly Luke's fault.

Why are you farting all over your keyboard?

perhaps luke's perception was being corrupted and manipulated through the force by sheev

literal brainwashing

I'm a woman, fuck off incel.

I guess the Resistance should all kill themselves then because they blew up gorrillions on SKB.

THATS A STORY FOR ANOTHER TIME

tits or GTFO

t. farting pressed retard

Basically Beauty and the Beast.

>get hit with facts
>turn around and insult my sexuality

Guess how I know your a woman?

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>I’m a woman
Only in your mind tranny

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trannies aren't women

i'll bet you're a cutter, like kylo

post tits

>get hit with facts
>"i bet you never had sex loser!!"

Ouch that hurt. You insulted me over the internet.

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>space satan
>he killed five planets!

Save your dramatics and appeal to emotion for tumblr pls.

Republic and his family were fucking retarded and deserved to be wiped out for being so incompetent.

He didn't kill five planets, Snoke and Hux did. He was against it, you would know that if you actually paid attention to the movie you watch instead of letting your emotions lead you like a baby bitch.

>luke's momentary lapse

Luke deserved to die, too bad he didn't.

could they not have hired an attractive person?

It takes a lot longer than literally ONE FUCKING DAY for Belle to come anywhere close to forgiving him, or even liking him.

>they blew up gorrillions on SKB
yea but those bitches were asking for it

>get hit with facts

What facts? The Resistance blew up an entire planet full of people and families but you want me to be mad at a guy who had nothing to do with Hosnian Prime and was actually against it? You want me to root for a girl who shouts in glee at murdering people? No thanks, you can keep your sociopath heroes.

No they weren't seeing as they were just doing their jobs and how many of them were child soldiers? It's a war, if you want to cry about the shits that Kylo killed, you have to offer the same concern over the people the Resistance killed. But you won't, because you don't actually care about some offscreened nobodies, you just want to push your dumb narrative because Kylo killed your fave and is going to get the girl.

I didnt say that. You said that. You generalize and make sweeping judgments about women because they wont fuck you, when the problem is that you're a rotten person who's probably ugly with zero prospects

This is as retarded as letting Hitler's #3 off the hook for the holocaust.

what planet? you mean the death star? that was a work place so no families were there. just men.

yup, men.

I win, yes.

Snoke is an embodiment of evil. Space satan is appropriate.

That's because his crystal is cracked retard. He made one before that already.

>It's a war, if you want to cry about the shits that Kylo killed, you have to offer the same concern over the people the Resistance killed.

The FO blew up 5 planets completely unprompted. Allow me to be completely unsympathetic when they get a military base/weapon blown up in retaliation.

So why didn't he make another one since that one is broke?

Keep pretending you give a shit, you're not fooling anyone.

Just say you're mad Kylo shit on your faves and is going to get a happy ending with Rey. You don't need to do so many mental gymnastics to justify your retard rage over a fictional space fairytale.

the rebellion didn't seek out to kill anybody tho. they souhgt to destroy a weapon that had already destryed planets and would have destroyed them too.
their target was the weapon, not the people.

>completely umprompted

They are at war and they are a threat. Every person on SKB who had families personally pushed the button to kill the five planets. They totally weren't indoctrinated as children.

>allow me to be unsympathetic

That's what you sociopaths do best.

>That's because his crystal is cracked retard.

The only retard here is you for spend even a second of your life looking into extraneous media for these terrible movies.

i'd let you give a big juicy shit on my chest

I'll remember that the next time Rey and Finn get excited over murdering people.

The Rebellions are trying to destroy the FO and are at war and killed gorillions of people happily, they even wrote cheeky little sociopath messages on their bomsb when they dropped them in TLJ.

Straight up psychopaths.

Because he doesn't have another crystal DUH

I'm not "mad at Kylo". He's the best character in the trilogy, and that's largely because he's an idiot struggling with a serious bout of PTSD, trying his hardest to fix the world that hurt him, but not really understanding how, making everything worse in the process. He's a genuinely compelling character, and it's because he's flawed like this.

My bad I figured someone at the head of a giant militaristic organization would be able to find a crystal.

Who would be the bad guy in the last one? Some new character? They have to use him for the evil guy

>Battle scar actually goes down his whole body

Never noticed that.

>They are at war and they are a threat.

The Republic didn't even believe that the FO existed. That's why Resistance wasn't simply the Republic army.

>Every person on SKB who had families personally pushed the button to kill the five planets. They totally weren't indoctrinated as children.

Yeah, no. Destroying the weapon that can destroy trillions of lives in an instant takes precedent over the lives of a few thousand minions, no matter how brainwashed. There is no moral dilemma here.

It's a hard sell when everyone around him is retarded and he's the only one who makes sense and actually has a plan and a vision. I have no reason to think he's stupid, because he's absolutely fucking right.

Murdering innocent people isn't okay, but the Resistance do that too so if they are allowed to do that then I don't see why I should fault Kylo for that.

The story can say "kylo bad cuz he fight the good guy and the good guy are good cuz they just are" until it's blue in the face it's not going to make it true or make sense.

Not-Palpatine was whispering in his ear somehow.

Well he was searching for Jedi stuff for awhile so yeah he probably looked for one you're just dumb and don't know anything.

see إ

I didn't see any proof of that in the movies.

>"kylo bad cuz he fight the good guy and the good guy are good cuz they just are"

If your teacher tried to kill you, do you think you would be a good guy if you then immediately killed a whole bunch of your fellow students for
no reason?

Nope. It will never be okay to kill innocent people. And it will never be okay to be happy about murdering anyone. The Resistance are far more evil than anyone I've seen in the FO aside from Hux or Snoke themselves. No one in the FO ever looks happy to be doing their jobs, Kylo sure isn't.

Yet the Resistance are always happy to kill their enemies and even make a game out of it cracking jokes and writing messages on bombs.

You can shove your sociopath Disney heroes up your ass. The funniest part is you don't even care about any of it, you are just mad that Kylo is going to be happy in the end and live. Too bad for you, you're just going to have to seethe about it. Dishonest cuck.

>"""Balance""" in the force means wiping out all darkness apparently
nobody can destroy all of the dark side unless they destroy the father and the son

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The second he takes command of the Empire, his first course of action is to continue indiscriminately killing people, squandering his chances of an alliance with Rey, which would have basically brought the remnants of the Rebellion under his control, because who's going to be able to face the both of them? This shows he doesn't really have any clue what to do in the long run in order to build a better Galaxy. All he knows is "kill it before it hurts me again".

He didn't though. Luke woke up after everything went down and said that Kylo took some students with him. Doesn't sound like we have the whole story at all and Luke is a known liar at this point.

You can reach as much as you want, none of the good guys are sympathetic or competent and Kylo sees that. I'm inclined to agree with him.

They are at war and the Resistance literally just blew up one of their biggest ships. I don't see you bitching about that.

>kylo so mean he was going to kill the people who just murdered thousands of his men!
>Rey suddenly appears happily shooting down more of them
>Why is kylo so angry i dont understand?!?
>poor innocent resistance!
Rey is the one who squandered a chance at an alliance with him in the throneroom, do you have amnesia?

You can project all you want, the actual story says otherwise.

Rey is going to get dicked own by Kylo. There's your balance.

but that would be wincest

Even better.

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>YEARS passed after this picture was taken
>there's STILL no source on that fat-titted cutie left of Kennedy.

reys hands are shaped perfectly to grip a benis with finger in pooper

You're too emotionally involved and invested in vengeance to see the bigger picture, which is funny because that's literally Kylo Ren.
At this point the question shouldn't be "do they deserve to die?" The question should be "how do I keep Rey on my side?" considering she's a Mary Sue demi-god who will easily secure victory for whoever she sides with, and starting out with the proposition of killing her friends wasn't a smart move.

>Nope. It will never be okay to kill innocent people.

>innocent

lol

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>Luke woke up after everything went down and said that Kylo took some students with him.

... Killing the rest. Luke is called "the last jedi" several times. Those other students didn't survive.

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>Luke is called "the last jedi"
source?

>why do you care soo much about the story and characterization?

If this is your first argument in a character-driven story, you know you've already lost.

They made Kylo sympathetic, they absolutely failed to do so with the good guy characters. That's not my fault, I'm just calling like I see it. If you want to do their jobs for them, be my guest but I'm going to call you on it.

Rey's question should have been "how do I best convince Ben and help save innocent lives?" Betraying an emotionally unstable overlord was the most retarded thing she could have done.

Her friends are murderers, traitors, and thieves, he has no reason to want to spare them and he didn't think Rey would care seeing as she literally told him she was all alone and shipped herself to him.

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The new republic was like 5 planets in a single solar system. How the fuck did the Disney Star-Wars universe become so small?

>no argument

Do you clap when Finn murders his former brothers and sisters? Is that what amuses a sociopath like you?

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>They are at war and the Resistance literally just blew up one of their biggest ships.

They blew up the personal ship of the guy he just betrayed and killed. Why does Kylo want the resistance dead again?

Kylo took some students with him, Luke says so himself. It's probably something like they all had a battle and the weak Lukeshitters lost so the based winners left with Ben kek

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Darth Millenial.

Finn saw that what they were doing was wrong, so he left. If the others can't see that murdering trillions for no reason is wrong, then they deserve to die.

Having something resembling a moral highground doesn't mean you aren't an idiot.

Kylo didn't kill Snoke because he hates the FO or had a change of heart, you are actually as retarded as Rey. Congrats.

It does when everything you do makes perfect sense.

Star Wars: Resistance describes the Resistance as like an exclusive small sect of hardcore Republicans. So when the Resistance is wiped out in TLJ, it's not really a big deal.

because it says he's evil in the script

because bad writing and disney hates white men, lol.

t. sociopath

He went to murder for the Resistance instead, what a great guy!

>source?
It's the title of the movie, you absolute mongoloid.
Its also in the opening crawl of TFA, Snoke says it in TFA, and Luke himself says that he's all that's left of the jedi religion.

You are a legit retard.

how do you know the tit;e is refering to luke, and not rey?

>canon actually labels the Resistance as the crazy terrorist sect they are

BUT THEY ARE THE GOOD GUYS

>Kylo took some students with him, Luke says so himself.

Did I say otherwise?

>give up the single best asset he could have had, because he couldn't stop him self sperging about killing everyone for five minutes
Hell, he could even have faked peace with the Rebels, while plotting to kill them all later. Rey's fickle, give her half a day and she'll pledge undying loyalty to your cause anyway,

Because Rian Johnson said so himself in an interview.

>Kylo didn't kill Snoke because he hates the FO or had a change of heart,

He literally says that the FO should be destroyed almost immediately after he kills Snoke. He doesn't give a shit about the FO, they're just a means to an end.

ok, i stand corrected

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>mommy's a drug addict
>dad's a criminal who's never around
Kid had no chance.

>""""Health""" is eliminating all the disease

He literally begged Rey to join him. Nigga even fucking said "please" kek. There is nothing more he could have done to try and convince her, he just killed his fucking master to save her and then begged her, offering her the galaxy.

She was the one who chose to spit on the chance to ally herself with him because she's a self-righteous cunt who can't see the big picture and has no plan aside from what is directly in front of her. Funny that you tried to claim that of me and Kylo, but it's actually Rey who suffers from severe myopio. She is as loyal as a fucking thot on instagram.

>i'm never leaving jakku
>leaves jakku

>i'm with the resistance now let me go find luke
>bashes luke over the head to go to kyo

>kylo kills snoke and offers her an alliance
>fuck you im back with the resistance now

It's not Kylo's fault Rey is a nonsensical retard.

>He went to murder for the Resistance instead, what a great guy!

Pretty much, yeah. Killing murderers is a noble cause.

>how do you know the tit;e is refering to luke, and not rey?

> and Luke himself says that he's all that's left of the jedi religion.

Can you not fucking read?

He doesn't say that actually. Watch it again, he says "Snoke, the Sith, the jedi, the rebels let it all die join me and we can make a new ORDER"

As in, he was obviously just going to take over the First Order with Rey at his side and reshape it.

Call a truce with the Rebellion. It's like 100 people on a ship at this point. They aren't going to do much damage without Rey on their side.

plot reasons

He's a murderer and a coward, there's nothing noble about Finn and never will be.

No.

Is this Snape`s love child?

Call a truce with the people who are currently happily gunning down your men and one of them is so fucking Jihad-dedicated he tries to kill himself, riiight. Sounds likely.

i like to think that leia and luke had an affair

Holdo literally just killed herself, there ain't gonna be no truce kek

Kylo's best course of action was to kill them, none of them were going to negotiate or surrender quietly.

>yo, Snoke's dead, and I killed him. Let's talk this out
As if that wouldn't get them to put down their guns for at least an hour. And if it doesn't then the Rebellion have shown themselves to be the aggressors, and that might sway her over to his side.

why didn't she just put the ship on auto pilot? stupid bitch.

Seems like there was more than just a kiss

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>He literally begged Rey to join him. Nigga even fucking said "please" kek.

>Can we please kill the only other people who give any ounce of a fuck about you in the entire universe? Please?

What a convincing argument.

i didn't see him consent to that kiss either. leia's a rapist.

>Rebellion have shown themselves to be the aggressors

SKB blew up half a dozen planets and murdered billions of people lmao

it's another "hitler did nothing wrong" episode!

holy shit and to think i almost didn't open this thread. i could have missed this unironically mentally unwell individual's embarrassing sperging session

Snoke's orders, and Kylo Ren just killed him.

He still doesn't give a shit about the actual brainwashed minions though. They're tools designed to accomplish a goal.

Kylo did more than enough to try and convince Rey to join him and the Resistance literally killing themselves because they hate the FO so much would never negotiate. Reach harder.

Can you fuck off back to tumblr already? She told him she was alone and bashed Luke over the head so she could go hop on his dick, he had no reason to think she would give a fuck aside from her morals which he was convinced he could get her to see things his way because they are so alike. He did everything in his power to prove his loyalty to her and convince her and she spit on it and betrayed him.

This is all on her. Reach harder though, it's funny.

It really makes no sense. I enjoyed The Force Awakens at the time because a) how derivative it was didn't really set in till after b) I thought it was leading somewhere. I thought there would be some importance to Snoke, to why Kylo went bad, why he killed Han, I thought Luke would lead somewhere, Rey's parents would be meaningful, etc. Now after the second one it seems like they don't know what the fuck they are doing. I really doubt they can give it a good conclusion in just one more installment.

Actually he wanted clones, he doesn't agree with Hux's ST army, this is even in TFA. Dumb retard. And yes he does care seeing as he was seething over Finn being a traitor and literally called them traitors and murderers when he was interrogating Rey.

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The problem is you're stuck in looking at things from a position of who has the moral high-ground, and that's not how an intelligent leader who knows what he's doing operates. It's not about being right, it's about winning.

I completely agree. It just occured to me that the final installment may be divided into two movies, Part i and Part II.

>He did everything in his power to prove his loyalty to her

Saying he's going to kill her friend proves his loyalty how exactly? What part of that is her pussy supposed to get wet over?

It's another "I pretend to care about real issues when I'm just mad this character killed my fave" episode!

Keep crying bitch, but remember:

SPACE

FAIRYTALE

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bitches love to see men fighting over them

oh shit you're still going? make more posts please i love watching lunatics have episodes. this is entertaining as hell

Lucas didn't mean like a balance of equal amounts of light and dark. In some translations they say "harmony" instead of balance which might have been the better word to use.
This is how I believe it works:
Jedi are ideally doing the will of the force which is innately good. They are not gaining and using force powers for their own benefit. That's why they have to be unemotional so they're able to interpret and do its will and not their own.
Sith want force powers for their own benefit, they want to do their own will and not the will of the force. The force doesn't grant them powers because its will is to have both sith and jedi: they are like a parasite, a corruption.

The problem is you're stuck doing the writers job for them because you're a braindead fanboy and The Resistance 100% should have been wiped out on Crait but plot armor is a glorious thing that hack writers love to use.

Well her pussy did get wet over it, it even says so in the extra material that when she felt like she was drowning his "but not to me" brought her back to the surface and she knew she could reach her full potential if she joined him.

You must be so angry that Rey didn't give a single fuck that Kylo slashed Finn open and ran to him in TLJ. Stay forever salty Finncuk.

Sound arguments there, chief.

You do realize Kylo slaughtered a bunch of kids for no reason right? He wasn't even at war at that time.

>Actually he wanted clones, he doesn't agree with Hux's ST army, this is even in TFA

He disagrees with Hux's strategy and logistics, that's not him caring about the stormtroopers' lives. Being angry that a stormtrooper disobeyed orders and ruined the FO's plans is not him caring about the stormtrooper's lives. Show me a single instance of him giving even a modicum of a fuck about their wellbeing.

I AM RIDICULOUS

Well obviously the films are horribly written. No one's debating that. Doesn't change the fact Kylo Ren is an idiot,

Rey doesn't give a fuck about Finn like that and never will.

Her plan was to take Kylo back to Luke and live with him, never being alone again. Nowhere was Finn in her plan when she went to Kylo kek

The only person who ever made Rey feel like she wasn't alone was Kylo. Finncucks are jealous of that and should be.

Finnwhales still coping a year later.

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his boypussy was touched by greasy uncle luke

The part where he’s a chad.

>acting accordingly means you are an idiot!

Nah, you just love sucking mousecock too much.

holy shit take a breath!

>he's an idiot because he's in an idiotic script
Sure. Still an idiot though, isn't he?

Because Rian Johnson wanted to ‘subvert’ expectations and JJ Abrams is notorious for setting up tons of plot hooks and mysteries but never actually has any answers for them planned out. The combination of these two and Disney letting them do whatever they wanted because in their eyes SW is guaranteed money led to Rian just doing what he wanted with no one to rein him in.

>You must be so angry that Rey didn't give a single fuck that Kylo slashed Finn open and ran to him in TLJ. Stay forever salty Finncuk.

I'm angry that disney expects me to pay money to watch their shit films, but I don't give a shit about Finn, he's been an annoying useless clown from the very beginning.

When the fuck did Rey ever care about the resistance she met 3 days ago for like 20 minutes?

>Kylo shits on Finn in TFA, literally putting him in a coma
>one day later Rey goes to hop on Kylo's dick

Darth Chaddicus strikes again!

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Finn got friendzoned hard by Rey though.

Are there any fans who seriously like Rey?

i think he unironically thinks people on this site care about shipping as much as he does

Go to bed, John.

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I mean I don’t hate her but two movies in I don’t like her either. Honestly that might be worse than hating her, at least then I’d feel something about her.

yeah lol
and mad too

She cares about Finn and Leia at least somewhat.

You make it seem like the Jedi are slaves which is kind of ironic since it's the Empire that enslaves people. So you've likened the Force to being more like the Empire.

>everyone had a lando toy
did americans really?

This. Especially after watching Kylo toy with him and then put him in a coma in two seconds flat.

Every time she sees Finn now, her pussy probably gets drier than the Jakku desert

JUST

I'm surprised Finn didn't die of embarrassment.

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Thus, a good man, though a slave, is free; but a wicked man, though a king, is a slave. For he serves, not one man alone, but, what is worse, as many masters as he has vices. - St. Augustine

i don't think i was talking about finn. i mean luke and kylo were both trying to recruit rey for their own cause, and so was snoke. they were all effectively fighting over her. for the same reason, but from slightly different perspectives. one as a master (luke), one as a lover (kylo) one as another sort of master (snoke). but all fighting over her.

bitches love that shit.

...even han solo tried to recruit rey at some point

Finn wasn’t a member of the Resistance when they knew each other. When did she care about Leia? When she hugged a woman she never met before?

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based and keked

>Finn wasn’t a member of the Resistance when they knew each other.

No, but last time she saw him, he was unconscious and in their care. If Kylo blows up the resistance, Finn would blow up with them.

>When did she care about Leia? When she hugged a woman she never met before?

She bawled like a baby when Han died. I think she would be at least a tad bit protective about the woman he loved.

This scene reminded me of when Anakin beat the shit out of that guy for trying to kiss Padme. Finn and Rey aren't even a thing and Kylo still put him in a coma kek

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>finncuck still going

this scene reminds me of dick waving except with swords

>tumblr
post tits

Honestly Finn should know better than to touch a Skywalker Chad's woman.

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That's basically what it is. Spoiler: Kylo's dick is bigger. Like, wayyy bigger.

It is known.

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so kylo force-killed luke?

I notice you haven't responded to my comment where I call Finn a useless annoying clown. Thinking a character's motivations regarding another character should make sense has nothing to do with actually liking any of those characters.

I don't think Snoke was ever trying to recruit Rey. He wanted Kylo to kill her.

Luke was never trying to recruit Rey either, he told her to fuck off for half the movie.

Kylo was the only one who's been courting her since TFA. He upped his game hard in TLJ, but she still wants more. Greedy hoe.

Did Luke ever touch Rey in front of Kylo? I don't remember.

>in front of kylo
i'm thinking of the scene when rey and kylo were talking through the force and luke interupted them. i can' really rember, desu. but i think luke pushed her or something.
i'm skimming through the movie now but havetn' found that scene yet.

You'll have to forgive her. She wants the full Ben Solo experience without the seemingly mandatory tragic end.

If Reylo are going to get their happily ever after, she can't enable his "evil" tendencies or turn a blind eye to it the way Padme did for Anakin. It's typical for this kind of love story.

I just wish they had written it better.

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>i think luke pushed her or something.

No, he just blew up the entire hut because he's a drama queen like everyone else in his family.

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