This is thread for general discussion of Alita: Battle Angel. Post and discuss your thoughts on the movie, pics/gifs/webms related and relevant info/rumors/news.
Because it offers a movie where your perception of yourself becomes reality. Something white CIS males and New York Times columnists don't always understand.
Take this example of breast-shaming and not understanting why minorities love Alita.
>Have you seen it? Came back 10 minutes ago actually. >What did you think? Fantastic. Pretty close the original story, superb effects, great acting, gorgeous environment. Watching The Jew Hunter Hans playing Dr Ido was mildly amusing at fist, but that's just because that's who I associate Christopher Waltz with most. It goes away quickly. It's also hilarious watching Alita slice Zapan's face off.
Oliver Reyes
Saw it today in Cinemark XD 3D. It was alright. Solid 7. Pretty by the numbers.
Jace Lewis
shittiest movie from 2019 so far
Hollywood should stop taking good media, crushing every bit of story and turn it into generic_blockbuster_56846
Matthew Powell
I wouldn't mind getting in her if you catch my drift
Adrian Watson
Does anyone know how / why Alita's core was thrown out in Salem's trash? If her heart was so valuable why didn't Nova salvage it while her core was still in Salem?
how can you even say that they literally destroid every character, Yugo, Nova, Gally, Vector, even Ido. It's only the good guys vs the bad guys now. How is that "close to the original"??????
Luis Martinez
>people are going for the far superior work and?
Hudson Fisher
Nova isn't supposed to be in Zalem in the first place. This just shows that this is a bad adaptation and they can't even be coherent with themselves
She did some emm...bad stuff in the past and was trialed as warcriminal, she was executed via being thrown into planets atmosphere where you burn alive while falling, somehow she survieved and crashed into the junkyar, she was not thrown out of zalem
Jaxson Wood
disney owns fox you absolute dipshit
Blake Williams
I don't give a rat's ass about Nova or what faggot source materiel purists think.
The point of the question is, why did Alita's core, a valuable piece of technology was thrown in the Salem's trash?
Anthony Davis
They're buying the manga because they liked the movie, brainlet.
Adam James
Cameron owns Alita you fucking moron.
Luke Wright
I'm no shill, I just think Alita has a cute smile worth fighting for
and they wouldn't just go see the movie again because...?
Cameron Peterson
James Cameron is a heavyweight, he owns the rights on Gunnm and the tech company in charge of Avatar. Pretty sure he signed for Avatar sequels in exchange of Alita's funding guarantees.
and they can't change anything about the deal. so they essentially own fox.
Carter Myers
And all these threads are hate threads lamo.
Jayden Richardson
>The point of the question is, why did Alita's core, a valuable piece of technology was thrown in the Salem's trash? Maybe it's like living near the gated communities where the heart surgeons and people live. They just throw out the entire living room when they remodel. Brand new electronics, furniture, fucking antiques they picked up, end up at the dump. They could have an alien hard drive used as a decorative centerpiece and not know it.
Chase Perez
Because they want to read the manga you fucking donkey, most people don't watch movies more than once at the cinema
Chase Hall
>what is viral marketing
Jeremiah Kelly
>The point of the question is, why did Alita's core, a valuable piece of technology was thrown in the Salem's trash?
In the manga she was executed by casting her down from orbit, and that's how she ends up in the trashpile. I don't know what they did in the movie.
Do you really expect it to be a panel-by-panel copy of the manga?
Movie starts with Ido finding Alita's core in the scrapyard.
Isaiah Robinson
Probably the same. Cameron won't lose the chance to film such a kino scene.
Leo Peterson
Question, where do you live and what time?
Tyler Reyes
It should, the execution scene is a flashback that comes much later.
Hudson Ortiz
No ! Even the opposite, I was totally okay with them going somewhere else ! Removing the blood, the motorball, some parts, it was all fine ! I just wanted them to stay coherent with the characters. How they evolve, how they interact,...
But nope, they couldn't do that, they had to make the shittiest love story between Gally and Yugo, introduce FUCKING IDO'S WIFE AND CHILD (how is that even useful), make Vector and Nova "muh really bad bad bad guys" I hate this movie so much for literally spitting on the original manga
Lincoln Anderson
Thus, the movie is only serving to advertise the fact a much better version exists.
Jason Collins
Wasn't Alita seen climbing the trasnport tube to Zalem during a flashback of the war? Maybe she got blown the fuck up and landed in the shit pile? Doc Ido didnt witness her fall from the trash butthole of Zalem; possibly he merely assumed so because he found Alita there and made that association.
Isaac Perez
How does fox and disney being the same entity not change their state of competition?
Jonathan Morgan
>I don't know what they did in the movie. She was found in the trashpile and they assumed she was dropped. She remembered charging up the cargo lines as a military unit during the war before everyone was wiped out with one of those defense rings. She survived that ring and kept going, but was probably damage/destroyed after.
Ryan Hall
ALITA NOW OVER $150,000,000 WORLDWIDE ALITA NOW OVER $150,000,000 WORLDWIDE ALITA NOW OVER $150,000,000 WORLDWIDE
They are not as of now. Disney won't see a cent of Alita's money.
Mason Moore
I and my friend from Yea Forums watched the film today - it was fine.
I expected it to go for the entire arc, personally.
Dominic Murphy
And that's without China or Japan, in 7 days, and foreign market hasn't been updated in like 10 days. Chances of getting a sequel are getting higher.
Brayden Brown
>nips do weird shit What's there to explain?
Oliver Jackson
What the actual fuck
Sebastian Davis
Oh, and I forgot to mention that (in the dead local theater we usually go to) we were the only patrons in the entire theater.
Fun!
Ayden Kelly
Kishiro has a Youtube channel with just 205 subscribers~ We should subscribe and give him our respect and admiration anons. youtu.be/Ntbe4D5tB_k
Caleb Collins
Yo buddy. Your classmate working a the theater was pretty cute tbqh.
Christian Campbell
wow, its almost 30% of the way to recouping the production budget.
Josiah Johnson
Literally fucking normalfags
Aaron Fisher
The shilling is extremely obvious, Fox.
Alexander Anderson
Starts with 9.0 on Taopiaopiao which usually follows Maoyan. Meaning this will have a good run, but won't break out in a big way like Aquaman or Venom. $150-170 million in China.
Owen Collins
>in 7 days Its been out since the 6th in most international markets.
Jaxon James
*a different version exists
Why cant you fucking purists get it through your skulls that Alita as is is unadaptable to the big screen 1:1? Its too long, unfocused and episodic, which works in the manga format. Kishiro was writing the plot as he went along too, so many elements only get introduced later in the series as convenient and necessary. The movie, like the OVA, is an attempt to *adapt* that to the screen. It still keeps the spirit of the manga, as Kishiro himself raves about.
>This movie has truly inherited the soul of the manga, with a new skin on top of it--almost like Alita being reborn in the Berserker body! I truly think longtime fans will enjoyAlita: Battle Angel!
>introduce FUCKING IDO'S WIFE AND CHILD (how is that even useful)
That entire thing fixes that he's a weird creep in the manga and gets things across in movie timeframe that the manga takes much longer to do
Landon Harris
If you think this is your loser echo chamber, leave.
Benjamin Turner
Actually I'm a massive Chad who fucks cheerleaders constantly. You just have to be yourself brah.
Brody Nguyen
You aren't too bright with math kiddo.
Blake Cox
Wrong. That was Korea and UK.
Jeremiah Nguyen
>American maths
Nathaniel Brown
The issue is their changes served only to cheapen and lessen the material. GitS'95 isn't a 1:1 adaptation of the manga and its utterly timeless because of that.
Nathan Nguyen
>Alita did some ...erm bad stuff in the past.
Do tell me more about this naughty anime/manga girl and her sordid past.
he's not a creep, he is literally in need of someone in his life There's a lot of things, starting from his old dead pet to Gally, that makes him a character that is terribly alone One of the good points of the manga was the dilemna Ido had between considering Gally as her daughter, and loving her. At some point he really wonders if he is in love with her. That's pretty much everything that made Ido interesting - his relation to Gally guess what: the movie also killed that
Luis Cook
I meant more the domestic market. But the foreign numbers haven't been updated in 10 days, so there can also be a surge in numbers along with the China and Japan numbers. The worldwide total will suddenly bounce up a lot.
Jackson Robinson
international x .25 domestic x .5
Jace Kelly
>fucking Sarah
I hope you enjoy witchcraft, rocky horror picture show, and satanism.
Actually, that is a pretty accurate way of gauging how much the studio profits.
Luis Foster
Holy shit this is so cute
Brayden Johnson
Why is Yea Forums always right about those behind generals? It's ALWAYS people not from here
Caleb Scott
Oh so we're back to pretending studios get 100% of the ticket sales. That's nice.
Adam Gomez
Not really. GitS is pretty good, but it's not really as masterful as you're placing it on the pedestal to be. I enjoyed it, but it was largely forgetful for me and this coming from somebody who loves cyberpunk. You're putting GitS on a pedestal higher than any of us here are putting Alita.
because generals are something reddit came up with.
Elijah Nguyen
>>>r/incels
Nathan Phillips
In what way? If you say toned down on the violence, I would agree to an extent. The PG-13 rating should have been R, but they pushed it as far as they could go. If you mean Nova being the focus now, what is wrong with that? Again, this is a movie that needs a tight plot and focused end goal - the original manga had the luxury of being as long and as detailed as Kishiro wanted (and the publishers supported). So we get all these side stories and elements in the manga as Kishiro felt like making them up. For example:
>Originally, Panzer Kunst didn't appear in the manga when the series started. An editor advised me to put Alita in more dangerous situations and have her fight more, so from there I came up with the concept of Panzer Kunst. Around 1985, I had come up with an idea for battling cyborgs, and how they would fight in low or zero gravity, and so I reused this concept forBattle Angel Alita.
The movie instead had to distill them and adapt them into a solid story that could be told in 2-3 movies, or else we would get a meandering and bloated cinematic universe. This movie then does elevate the original work.
Jose Gutierrez
>he's not a creep, he is literally in need of someone in his life >that's why we needed to establish incestual overtones in this two hour western movie, to show this dilemma
I watched the movie monday and i thought it was good but almost all the changes from the original were bad. But what really caught my attention was how after she got the berserk body, in the next day they fixed her eyes and it was smaller a less round, that was really strange besides being better, and even in promotional ads she had her eyes way smaller, I guess they really knew they fucked up with the uncanny valley
they are more correct than acting like 150m in two weeks is a big deal.
Jordan Young
I think they made the pupils bigger compared to the original ads... but honestly I really liked the eyes. It made Alitas design unique and cute
Eli Martinez
>in the next day they fixed her eyes and it was smaller a less round, that was really strange besides being better, and even in promotional ads she had her eyes way smaller, I guess they really knew they fucked up with the uncanny valley What do you smoke bro ?
Jacob Wilson
It's one, really. The markets it opened in earlier are completely unimportant.
Dominic Barnes
Like aploading a virus into earths ''master computer'', which hijacked ships and crashed them into Venus resulting in millions dieing, after that she also almost destroyed earths orbital ring (a structure that flying cities are part of)
Dylan Carter
With /film/ actually getting officially opened soon will we get old Yea Forums culture back?
Dominic Foster
The new body was supposed to react to mental image and product what she thought she should look like; not be a piece of shit technology produced by the locals that has huge eyes, but rather kickass Martian colonist technology. Sieg Ze- I mean praise Mars.
Bentley Phillips
Subtle changes to her face after the urm body install were intended to symbolically portray her as transitioning from girl to woman.
Christopher Myers
Someone has a sandy cunt.
William Barnes
>It made Alitas design unique and cute >unique and cute >and cute >cute >CUTE
>implying There was a /film/ for like one whole day when Hiro took over but everyone bitched about it so it got deleted lmao.
Julian Reed
making nova the central antagonist (who is going to build cyborgs to try to kill alita from his safe HQ in the sky city) doesn't make the movie's plot tight, its a cinematic universe setup. Nova's involvement in literally every aspect of the story makes the plot quite sloppy. Throwing in chiren doesn't tighten the plot, it loosens it. As now ido and chiren and their dead daughter serve only to clutter and muddle each character. Not to mention now chiren that is dead, that means ido either needs to grieve, vow revenge, or forget she existed (the latter being the most likely). Furthermore, involving nova in ido's exile just, again, adds another clumsy plot connection that really didn't need to exist. Then hugo actually loving alita means his death has basically no impact, because it means he was killed by the evil people and thus, she must fight the evil. Killing vector doesn't make the plot tighter, because either he's replaced by someone identical or he wasn't important. etc, etc, etc.
Jacob Allen
You are the one making a big deal out of it faggot
Cameron Baker
Thanks chief
Chiren is still alive. I'm pretty sure she's gonna be stuffed into a cyborg body.
Owen Torres
>40-50m >completely unimportant
man, with that logic all the money it has made so far is unimportant
Jordan Miller
the new body yea, not her head tho
Asher Wilson
Unless they showed a non finished version of the movie, what I don't doubt since I live in hueland, me and my friend saw how they changed the size of her eyes after that party and how better it looked from there and beyond, at least I won chocodilla from taco bell
Brayden Phillips
>shills, when cornered, will accuse their opposition of being shills, in desperate hopes of confusing people
Julian Howard
saw the movie today. It was ok but held back by a shit director
Charles Foster
You mean the /film/ board that wasn't officially opened, didn't have a sticky, moderation or feedback threads like when other new boards are added? That very same one where plebs from these threads shit it up?
Nah, you don't get it, I payed attention and her eye didn't change after the transformation, it was some scenes after that, when she is with hugo and puts her heart in his hand, and even if what you said was true, this guy is right
William King
so i guess Yea Forums isn't officially opened either, what with it's lack of sticky.
Kayden Smith
How the fuck is Hugo so goddamned retarded that he can get away with stealing enough money to hypothetically buy a ticket to Zolem at that age, but think you can just climb your ass up there with a prosthetic body?
Look at all the fucking bounty hunters and criminals with custom bodies, some looking like goddamned spiders. Would there be any around if you could just climb the pipes you dipshit?
>most of the threads bitching where people from Yea Forums saying that without movie discussion, Yea Forums would be slow >now trying to say it was closed due to "lack of moderation" and le normalfag boogeyman Wew. Good thing I was actually around and saw what happened (and remember it).
Owen Turner
hugo is a retard through all the manga, he only made lots of money cause he did one of the most disgusting things in that hellhole
Christian Gutierrez
>think There wasn't much thinking involved, that's the point.
Elijah Gutierrez
Why would Yea Forums have a sticky now discussing it being a new board if it's been 12 years since it became a full board? Why was it opened in the middle of the night? Why was there no moderation, stickies, feedback thread, etc like when new boards are officially added? Why was it found on [s4s] of all board first? Why was there also no banner announcement?
Brody Ramirez
>I know you're a shill, but what am I? the absolute state of disney shills
David Howard
I liked the part where vector is all like "i've tried to explain to him what he's buying but he doesn't listen."
Angel Butler
there were only 2 other people in the IMAX 3D showing when i went with my mom today
Gabriel Baker
how did the actor that played hugo get the role in such a high budget film?? He had no charisma, his acting was bad and his looks are mediocre at best.
Levi Martin
>dude disney is shilling against their own properties! ...
Brayden Flores
still waiting for some high rez pics of her with the berserker body wearing the tight sleeveless sweater.
Robert Rodriguez
Yeah, her eyes are different here, but if you get her eyes when her body is changing and a little after that they are not like this, I wish I had the movie in my computer so I could show it better
Joseph Evans
There's this thing called 4(2)chan, where they have boards for everything. Why not go and stay go?
Logan Green
>everyone accusing each other of being shills Mamma mia
Joshua Reyes
Maybe because it was made within days of new management and there was no formalized procedure for making new boards you fucking brainlet.
Wrong. We have already been through this above in the thread. Your statement has been proven incorrect. Try to keep up.
Owen Ward
His eyes are too close, looks like an oblivion OC
Christian Taylor
you make a high budget movie like this by not wasting money and hiring no name actors
Jace Gray
yeah it was a good film, we both enjoyed it
Isaac Cooper
Yeah, Vector is great, even I not liking him that much in the movie, at least they nailed in the actor choice
Jordan Morgan
Not that guy, but you don't spend quality time with your family? I'm 30 and when I'm in town my mother wants to go shopping, or see a movie, or do something because she only gets to see me so often.
Maybe you're just a bad son?
Jonathan Adams
>if I keep insisting falsehoods are true then people will eventually give up and stop replying to me!
disney can either cancel the buyout or proceed. They can't change anything. They will acquire all proceeds and losses with the acquisition.
But by all means, keep conducting yourself as if calling shill will make people there aren't shills here.
Owen Gutierrez
>new management Hiro took over in 2015 and has made a few boards with all those things added. /film/ happened in 2016 Nothing changed in the "management" in that time frame
Noah James
It sets up for 1-2 sequels, yes, but definitely not a cinematic universe as you're thinking. Nova is one of only 3 Zalemites we see in the movie, the one most active in Iron City affairs. We see the world from Alitas eyes, and Nova is the one whose actions we see most clearly in this movie. This doesnt even cover Ketheres and the potential of LADDER among other things. Nova just as a Zalemite has the most direct interest in Iron City affairs that we know of so far.
Ido's and Chiren's love sets up for Ido wanting to take in and care for Alita. It gives him a fatherly bond with Alita as we get the symbolism of her being "born" in his daughter's prosthetics. Chiren serves as his foil and an opposite viewpoint for one of 3 zalemites we see in the entire movie - the desire to go back.
Hugo loving Alita is fine. He had to first come to terms with it, as he was like in the original story, just using Alita for his own ends. However his love with Alita is key to her growth from naive child to aware adult, and humanizes her and keeps her from just being a full on cyber weapon of mass destruction. His death also serves the movie in that he was trying to run from his problems, run from what he needed to face. As such he died, and it cements for Alita the realization that she cannot run, but must fight. Fight though not because of her Martian programming, but because she has people she loves and loved.
And vector served as the primary antagonist in Iron city, but that is only the first level, the first world Alita must ascend. Vector was just the front for something greater.
Logan Powell
He is probably underage and don't know how to value family, I almost invited my mom to watch with me cause I knew she would like it, maybe when a good version comes to download I will watch it again with her
Landon Evans
You probably got deceived by her facial expressions, but her eyes size never change. This is one of the final scenes.
>the real issue with the plot is the pacing and how its filled with alll these sloppy connections that serve no purpose.
Charles Reyes
Cause she couldn't go that day, and I went with a friend, she almost never likes to spend money on theaters too
Brayden Rogers
>Why would Yea Forums have a sticky now discussing it being a new board if it's been 12 years since it became a full board? Notice of how quick he answered the other question but ignored this. These Disney/Alita shills genuinely believe this board was just made proving that they're not from this site.
Asher Allen
what are you even gibbering about?
Connor Cruz
Brainlet.
Ryan Young
What did he mean by this?
Aiden Cooper
Its okay if you don't have any actual arguments. No one expects you to. You're stuck here defending a very sloppy and poorly thought out adaptation of some pretty tight material. You don't have to keep doing this to yourself.
Cooper Foster
But they did? The only ends we cant be fully sure about are Nova and Zalem as a whole - that will be answered in the sequel likely. But otherwise everything fit together to show the theme of the story - a young girl born in a fantastic and futuristic post apocalyptic world. She goes on a journey to discover who she was and in doing so cements who she is, becoming an adult in the process. This is symbolized by the destruction of her child body and her taking on her Martian berserker body, which coincidentally looks more adult features wise. It also serves as a point of her accepting her past yet embracing her future.
Bentley James
>Cause she couldn't go that day Implying she has better things to do... COMPEL HER !
Lucas Ortiz
Saw Alita last night. No surprise. It was fucking [spolier]kino[/spoiler].
Jace Walker
The issue with all the forced character connections is they diminish the size of the setting, reduce the complexity of the narrative, even though they were clearly made to try to increase complexity. They make all the characters less compelling and nuanced because nova is literally the architect of everyone's pain.
Adrian Howard
marvel capeshit tard
Jaxon Bennett
>spolier
Nolan Campbell
Someone tweet a Photoshop of The Terminator with a beer belly at her and ask, "why would they bother sculpting his muscles? he's a machine, after all."
Ian Ortiz
She was tired of working, she doesn't like to go out that much, I know it's strange but it's true
Thomas Campbell
He isn't though. They made him more important, but there's still lots of suffering happening he isn't involved in.
Jaxson Russell
People still not knowing how to use ctrl+s, probably a dumb phone user
Ethan Scott
Been watching the box office like a goddamn hawk for the last 5 days. Alita is actually outpacing Ready Player One and other related films by a decent margin. Literally the only market that's uncertain right now is the US. Alita will more than likely do at minimum 300 million foreign side by the end of it's run.
To continue with this, another user in a prior thread mentioned the obvious Christian imagery and themes. Alita is a "fallen angel" from "heaven" who in her own way will redeem Iron City. She has to first learn to be human (as mentioned in the last post). If you remember that bar scene, her cheesy speech was to show how she was a moral cut above those around her, but that she wanted them to join her and find their redemption. Chiren symbolizes that kind of redemption- she spends the movie trying to selfishly find her way back to heaven, only to in the end be redeemed by Alita and sacrifice herself instead for her.
Andrew Flores
Yeah, it deliberately shrank the scope. They're not going to make 16 movies.
Benjamin Hughes
>He isn't though. In the movie he gets ido, chiren, and their daughter exiled he builds grewshika (through chiren) and sends him after ido and and then alita he triggers the shredder ring he gets vector to load the motorball match with assassins (for literal goddamn reasons)
Nova is behind literally every plot movement.
Jose Perez
The issue is the OVA adapted the first two volumes of the manga in 60 minutes. So they diminished the scope for no good reason. They had the opportunity to even expand the scope and trim away some fat (pop star alita), but instead decided to make a cluttered and muddled mess.
Jason Rivera
Why is there such a disparity between critics and the audience on this?
Spending two hours silently staring at the screen doesn't count as interacting with your family.
Alexander Hughes
oh yea, best part, they establish alita's mission the entire time was to kill nova. So nova is over 300 years old.
Aaron Long
Critics usually try and find some faux deeper meaning or purpose in films while the general audience literally just wants some fun entertainment, so-called bread and circuses.
Thomas Kelly
seems like most critics cater to SJW nowadays and this movie is everything SJWs hate despite it being a strong female MC.
Joshua Bailey
Speed racer was good though mentally ill directors aside
Wyatt Morgan
As far as we are aware, yes. But we dont know the full extent of his involvement in the world as we are stuck in Iron City, barely see Zalem, and technically arent even aware of Ketheres (though astute observers would notice the elevator tether in the view shots above Zalem).
Again this is due to the necessity of distilling the manga and giving it some kind of overall plot.
Sebastian Hughes
man, thank god you came along and gave the shills something else to talk about.
Owen Nguyen
Chiren and the daughter who wasn't in the manga. He built the worm guy in the manga to but he doesn't send him, yeah. Yeah. Vector did that on his own.
Nova has nothing to do with Zapan fucking up Hugo. They made him more important but the world would still be a bad place without him. Get over yourself. inb4 the schizo posts the two tweets again
Camden Turner
>on this? It's like that for everything these days. Critics are SJW shills and give good reviews to SJW propaganda, while bad reviews to anything that isn't SJW propaganda, regardless of the actual quality of the movie
Hudson Roberts
when are you people finally gonna admit it was a flop?
Justin Morgan
For example:
Alita: Battle Angel foreign opening weekend 88,327,326 million WITHOUT CHINA OR JAPAN
Ready Player One foreign opening weekend $127,500,000 WITH CHINA ADDING 61 mill
To be honest, the more I look at these numbers from all these movies I've been comparing, the more I think this movie will do really good.
Adam Young
Negro, everyone understands why they did it. The issue is it is not an improvement. It is clumsy and silly. It changes nova from a madman raging against determinism into a mustache twirler.
Daniel Flores
It was out on 6th in a few asian countries with lunar calendar holiday or smth, and then few others on 7th or 8th. Altogether it was out in only 11 countries that week. It was released next week everywhere else except China and Japan, so it's really only been out for less than a week in most of the world.
Brayden Bennett
>Literally the only market that's uncertain right now is the US >relying on US to do the things right
nah more like its only been out for like an hour, 150m in an hour goddamn this is gonna make all the money
Julian Cooper
>most critics cater to SJW nowadays and this movie is everything SJWs hate
That's like, objectively wrong though
Oliver Morgan
We literally do not know that though. We dont know what Novas intentions are or what he wants. We know next to nothing. Now, this is where I say this movie's legacy rests on how the sequel goes.
Ryan White
but the china one is wrong though. It should be a pale dead baby with the umbilical still attached in some dirty puddle with tire treads over its gut
Jose James
Comparing your image to this image I can see her eyes are very different, and in both she is crying
The point is the OVA did it and the movie had the opportunity to expand. Instead the movie takes the OVA and just adds some clutter to it and calls it a day.
Joshua Perez
you need to share more enjoyable things with her. if you just let the distance grow, you end up losing all the important people in your life
Carter Morgan
it's like, literally not though.
Elijah Martin
We know nova is deeply invested in alita for reasons and was behind just about every significant plot point. Whereas in the source material he was just a madman littering the world with nightmares.
Blake Barnes
>At this point, is it even worth it to keep going? Sure bro.
Just got back from seeing it and holy shit, could they have hired an uglier actor to play Hugo? It was almost distracting every scene he was in 'cause he's just so goddamn unappealing to look at.
Nolan Hughes
they look exactly the same except the one you posted they're bigger because her face is tilted down.
Brayden Morales
Look how stupid you are.
Connor Cruz
Cameron basically ghost directed it if you look at behind the scenes and he's heavily promoting it in China right now. Refer to
Jose Lewis
what are you? some kind of fag or something?
Carson Torres
A cross in his head, and he kills gays? I am not that user and didn't watch this, what it is about?
Leo Anderson
Yes. If they're gonna make Alita pretty as an angel, I expect the same from the male love interest.
Jayden Turner
Is it? Or do you only mean movies with at least a 100M budget since anything lower too pretentious for you?
how is it wrong? Can you actually argue shit or do you just kneejerk respond without explanation and then act as if you know what you're talking about without saying anything?
Jonathan Morgan
>cameron ghost directed! they're still trying to force this meme, wow.
John Rogers
I said basically. He was there on many days of shooting, but in the end, it is Robert's film.
Luis Miller
ohhh, so that's why alita was a 30 year old housemaid.
Oliver Clark
Black panther i dont think anyone needs to say more.
Grayson Parker
Just watch it. If you liked Bone Tomahawk then you'll love it
Connor Brooks
And he could ultimately be doing the exact same thing. It could be all revolving around karmatron dynamics. It could be anything. We just dont know yet and writing him off at this stage as a "mustache twirler" is just asinine.
Andrew Moore
so critics catering to SJWs giving black panther favorable reviews when it wasn't even that great of a movie means I'm wrong...?
Carson Collins
so cameron had some slight involvement because it looks like this might not be a monstrous flop? Then if china saves it (lol) then it'll be cameron pulling all the strings? But when it is a flop it'll be all rod?
Jack Barnes
Have to watch that too
Samuel Sanders
>he could be doing the same things! >but in a completely different way that establishes the character is almost totally different!
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Easton Williams
Bump Why won't this teen from Yea Forumseddit answer? Here's one that meets your not pretentious hipster bullshit pleb criteria btw
Why would I respectfully debate some broken brain who is so essjaydubya obsessed that he thinks they hate Alita? He's a fucking idiot and mindless buzzword'er and should be treated as such.
Robert Edwards
B A S E D A S E D
Wyatt Rivera
Yes, it's called an adaptation? Different does not equal bad, and as I keep mentioning, its fart to early yet to tell anyways. Besides we do not know how much will be different and how much will be the same ultimately.
Levi Lee
that's the narrative that's been being pushed, though. When it flops, it'll be all rod. If it's a smash hit, it'll be all cameron. When it seemed like the flop was in, it was all rod, now that it's made a little bit of money, you're edging towards cameron on the spectrum.
This is patently obvious so I don't know why you'd bother trying to deny it.
Eli Williams
but that's my argument. How can you prove my point for me and then say I'm wrong?
Adam Peterson
>Different does not equal bad In this case, it did. Because the changes didn't improve the material, the changes cluttered the material and actually locked off every possible plot arc from the manga going forward. Meaning it will all have to be entirely OC from this point on, and hollywood's writing has been the subject of abject horror since the writer's strike.
Easton Jenkins
Cruise is the exception to the rule.
Dominic Gomez
critics overrate sjw movies is my point
Tyler Gray
I'm legit not. Maybe others are, but not me. I love Robert's films and I love Cameron's, so it's cool to see a film basically made by both of them.
Christian Russell
How does everything that based Jim touches turn to solid gold, bros
Luis Thomas
>not allowed to praise or even shill Alita in an Alita Thread.
Mousecucks just stop.
Caleb Garcia
youtube.com/watch?v=Kt1sHwKoN5w this is why her eyes are big, not just for "the anime look" is for you to believe that that tiny girl can really kick ass... is more easy to believe she is a robot...
Charles Wright
ベゼド
Adam Gomez
You realize you're just proving me right, right?
Ryder Robinson
That rating makes no sense, coming from someone who liked it. Anyone who shits on Alita's pacing should shit on Fallout's double that hard.
John Stewart
Do marketers get paid to become forum influencers?
Jaxon Reed
>try to force positive word of mouth >this backfires hilariously because you are obviously shills >just start calling shill until the money stops
good job guys.
Angel Price
>sjws don't hate alita >all those articles saying her body is too sexy or that she's idealized for men instead of women don't exist
that's my point too. Alita isn't an SJW movie. They consider it a man's power fantasy. see, this guy gets it
Colton Evans
>try to force positive word of mouth Didn't happen. >this backfires hilariously because you are obviously shills Didn't happen. >just start calling shill until the money stops Talking about yourself?
Parker Phillips
I like how there's a different rationalization for the stupid googly eyes every day. When the reality is cameron only watched the ova and read the first three volumes of manga. And in the OVA there is a grand total of one single large eyed anime character. Then in the three volumes of manga, there is only one other "cute young girl" character. Thus he confused the giant eyes for a character trait.
Nolan Hill
Do they too even though they showed how savage natives are?
It only felt cluttered because of the pacing. Watch it again and you will see. As for the rest, that is base speculation and your own opinion. At this point we can amicably agree to disagree. I agree that Hollywood writing sucks atm, but I have faith in Cameron's love of the material.
Tyler Smith
No one called shill when we tried to do the same thing for Dredd
Nathan Torres
There is really no point in lying. Its obvious and pathetic.
Liam Clark
Taking out obvious things like inflation and more theaters and more competition, funny to see almost the same opening weekend numbers. Obviously Alita won't replicate Titanic by any stretch, but any doubt of 100 mil + is out.
It felt cluttered because they took the over-stuffed OVA and just adapted it 1:1 and threw in as much other shit as they could fit. Another hour of movie wouldn't affect this.
Cooper Thomas
It's hilarious how much this thread is full of it too >Yea Forums was like _ before >no it wasn't heres proof >silence And my favorite one >it's just like the manga! >no it isn't >silence
Hudson James
I personally called shill when the dredd was happening. But because it was maybe 1 thread a day no one gave a fuck. Whereas shills have been spamming the shit out of this.
Juan Ramirez
Can we all just get back to talking about our lovely film we just got?
You could have just let Alita have a 7/10 quietly and everything would have gone as planned. But no, you just had trigger a Streisand effect with your desperate hit pieces.
Good luck with captain fungus toes.
Asher Ortiz
Then stop.
William Johnson
The eyes are honestly good and I think Cameron knew exactly what he was doing when he decided on them. He took a risk and I think it paid off.
My IMAX originally had How to Train Your Dragon scheduled starting tonight, running until 2/28. They scrapped that due to NO TICKETS BEING SOLD, and Alita remains in there now until Apollo 11 comes out. I saw Alita there last night, and it had a lot of people for a Wednesday.
Caleb Rivera
yeah... over 20 years waiting for winning money with that and he only read the 3 first volumes and watch the OVAs... yeah... a guy who makes movies for a living, successfully movies is that lazy... yeah right...
Oliver Mitchell
目わ大きいだね
Aaron Morris
that budget was insane for 1997
Ryan Jackson
He bought the rights and came up with his treatment when there was only the OVA and three volumes. This movie was slapped together inside of 6 months. and it shows.
Andrew Young
Why do audiences hate movies with strong white characters?
>if we ignore inflation and how ticket prices have doubled since '97, then alita is going to make titanic money!!
man what the fuck. I'm suffering minor brain damage just reading this shit and your literal job is to post it.
Benjamin Evans
Alita is hot af, has a dad that loves her, has no politics or agenda behind it and she only interacts with males the entire movie... hmmm I wonder why critics didnt like it.
William Nguyen
Hard disagree, it would give each scene breathing room to allow the viewer to digest what happened and expand on it nicely. It's just unfortunate the the CG cost so much that it had to be cut down to 2 hours. Also speaking of the OVA this movie is much better paced and coherent, even with the addition of the motorball scenes.
Caleb Turner
The ending btfo's the roastie trying to change him, people hate that now.
Brandon Hughes
>Rotten Tomatoes - Critics 59% Audience 94%
It's like mainstream critics are begging weeb sites to crack tsundere jokes about them and Alita
Juan Johnson
It would simply give the audience time to realize how utterly nonsensical the plot and characters are.
Isaiah Walker
Let's not forget her boyfriend is a bad boy, instead of a scrawny loser.
Ryan Moore
It's Arita: Bateru Angeru
Julian Clark
ok man... bc making movies so easy... is just magic, is not a business... he just buy the rights and poof! and he make a script George Lucas style... is just like SW:TPM like poetry... go home you cynic.
Austin Gomez
I was just making note of the similar opening weekends. And I said, it clearly won't make Titanic money, but it will make over 100 million at least.
Dylan Scott
>has no politics or agenda behind it its literally always been about class warfare and still is. It even has the evil white man trying to keep all the brown people down.
Samuel Perez
I see you have no actual arguments. Facts sure are frustrating aren't they.
Joseph Perry
None of that matters. Jim only makes movies if he gets to experiment new stuff, he likes challenges. He wanted to make a lifelike anime girl and just by looking at that scene, you have to admit it just works. The fact it's a cyborg also makes it easier to accept, it would've much been stranger if the character was supposed to be a regular human.
Starts with 9.0 on Maoyan. Which doesn't indicate break out in China. Maybe around $120 million there.
Camden Cox
They didn't just throw in other shit but they shortened the much longer original script for the movie. Pacing is something I kinda agree on, although I prefer it this way over being bored by the movie.
Christian Ramirez
I'll bet you anything you want that all the anons here hating on Alita will follow suit into the next thread. Why would they do this? I don't know.
Joseph Rodriguez
>dude things are happening fast I am entertained
consider the possibility you are mentally retarded.
Evan Perez
Why did the child of Yea Forums not answer any questions about the critic ratings posted?
Oliver Adams
>(You) >facts
Cameron Richardson
>>if we ignore inflation and how ticket prices have doubled since '97 Same as gas or noodles, but the consumption remains roughly the same.
Jayden Bell
It's funny to see lots of cyborgs everywhere and she is the only one that looks like a retard
If you could keep up, you would've been able to see how nonsensical the plot was.
Wyatt Torres
Disney hired shills and disgruntled capefags with Stockholm syndrome.
Camden Collins
No. This is what happens when you don't take your meds or have hit your head too often, too hard.
Ayden Diaz
>t. brainlet
James Bailey
Tell me about how Yea Forums is my secret club again.
Joseph Johnson
>anons make thread to talk about movie that is currently on theaters >random user comes in >"hey is this movie any good?" >anons in the general: "yeah we liked it" >"should I go see it?" >"sure it's worth it" >another random user: "WOW STOP PROMOTING THIS FLICK YOU LITERAL SHILL!!" Last user is you by the way.
Brandon Nelson
Took some friends to go see it today. The face Alita makes when Hugo asks if she wants to hang out the next day to go see the ship. The way she's trying to contain her smile is FUCKING ADORABLE. Or her breathing and the way she spoke when told to close her eyes. It's so genuine. It's like when you're talking to a girl, you both have that puppy love. You're trying to not let your voice break. Seriously, genuine. Rosa Salazar was really good. Great mocap. Happy to have seen it again.
So in the left news of my country they said alita is trying to follow the trend of female main characters badly, and made in a dumb and forced way, citing the way she gives literally her heart to Hugo, saying that is the same as calling us retards, btw it was written by a woman, is she right?
Eli Phillips
why are they so bad at fitting in though? constantly getting told they're wrong then vanishing only to pick up another argument about how we can tell who they are and repeating above
Eli Green
i'm not even a manga fan... but is unfair to say that is a bad movie... look GitS, that's a bad adaptation, DBE... but this... this is good, well acted, well adapted, good vfx, great action scenes, like sin city, speed racer... i like it, is ok if don't, but don't say is bad... is not your taste, that's a completly different.
Anthony Roberts
>facts It's just conjecture on your part. Cameron has read Last Order so your little theory is wrong.
Jacob Adams
Are you even trying?
Hudson Brooks
I am talking about her optical cavities
Brandon Rodriguez
I cant find any screen shots but Alita has a whole squad of big eyed soldiers. Michelle Rodriguez plays this one.
Why do shills always think they're the first people to figure out that you can pretend to be multiple people on anonymous image boards? Its like eight year olds who've just figured out they can lie.
Cooper Morgan
>Its like eight year olds who've just figured out they can lie. Same as your quip/attempted insult from before then.
Alexander Watson
Based Japs
Luis Wright
NEW NEW
NEW NEW
Hudson Peterson
Yeah because the one with blades in place of hands who couldn't eat or grab anything isn't a retarded design...
Matthew Baker
Convince to go watch the 10 showing in Imax senpai. Is it worth it?
Nathaniel Barnes
>Rosa Salazar was really good. Indeed. I spotted her in Labyrinth (sht movies) because of her facial expressions and ironically big eyes. I'm glad she was picked for that role.
Gavin White
Feminists hate Alita because she's endearing as fuck, when the ideal feminist protagonist must be a frigid, unlikeable cunt like Brie Larson
Jaxson Morales
Yes
Jaxon Lewis
alright see yall in a few hours
Anthony Hill
I know and they are terrible
Nathan Rivera
Fucking weebs
Ayden Martin
>kiss in lips L-lewd...
Xavier Thomas
The last time I went, there were 30 people or so. I'd go again, but it's 20 freaking bucks for a ticket and I need to take a 2 hour bus ride to even get to the theater, so the total I end up spending is like 30+ bucks.
Colton Flores
He was literally fan service for girls. Why would they add that? Idk
Levi Williams
>He was literally fan service for girls How is that a bad thing?