So I recently decided I wanted to torture myself, and watched a bit of nu-simpsons, sepecifically most of season 29. I started noticing certain patterns. This what I noticed:
meta references >lots of meta reference, bringing back previous characters, ideas, places, etc., often with specific reference to the fact that it's a meta reference. sometimes even breaking the fourth wall over this. Every single episode had a few very clear meta-references. couch gag and intro sequence >couch gag is now way more over the top, it's actually one of the most unfunny parts, since it's simply some terrible and overly extended gag that completely disregards the original idea of something silly happening to the family when they sit down. The intro sequence gets a lot of variable elements as well. All of which ties in with reduced narrative content >episodes were around 21m30s, including credits, and the couch gag alone is often a minute long or more, plus the complete intro secuence which sometimes is extended by some terrible gag. Adding to that some also very extended (and unfunny) gags throughout, the actual episodes feel noticeably shorter than back in the day, the actual narrative feels like barely more than 15 minutes. They all feel like they end way too soon. manatee gags >way too many family-guy tier manatee gags. Family guy could get away with it and only for a short time because it was something different and pretty edgy, and still it got old quickly. Here, the concept is neither new, nor edgy, nor funny. They feel like cheap filler. morbid content >lots of very morbid references or plot points, with very explicit and morbid references to death and dying. It doesn't even feel like edgy humour, just dark stuff for the hell of it.
Only good part: Storylines are a bit better than some seasons ago.
I think season 24 onwards have had gradual quality boost in the story department every year. The jokes are not as good but the stories are more interesting instead of lazy.
Ryan Walker
How would you fix the show, OP?
Jacob Campbell
kill the entire writing staff and replace them with manatees
Jayden Bell
I don't think it can be fixed. When a show gets so long running and relevant it will often turn towards itself, ie becoming a parody of itself. Flanderization if you will. It would have to detach itself from the meta-realization of what it is. I find that american shows have a hard time doing this. Like, they run out of ideas, and turn to the same repetitive themes of that genre. Shitty example, but take Big Bang Theory. It started out reasonably interesting, a more or less unusual concept for a regular american sitcom of centering around nerds and so on. And a few seasons in they all have gfs, get married have kids, it's just nu-Friends ffs. One instance I can think of of shows that maintain their style (if not necessarily their freshness and/or quality) over very long run are some animes. I used to watch Detective Conan, has like hundreds and hundreds of eps, and the narrative style stays more or less coherent, with a natural evolution, but not turning into a parody of itself. Another interesting example could be South Park. Quality has dropped, yes, but it has continually evolved its style, instead of trying to keep up the same antics. Clearly Simpsons has too much pressure to include certain ideas/style so that it couldn't just be let to evolve more or less naturall like South Park did.
Camden Powell
The Book Job is pretty good for Nu-Simpsons...Far too good.
Matthew Perez
Kek I had to watch an episode the other day at a friend's house and I was so audibly autistic over it because I'd recently watched seasons 1-7 and Lisa asked Bart what he's been doing after school and he mentioned that he just writes on the chalk board the same random message over and over and she says some weird garbage and he asks if he can use that for the chalk board
Austin Jackson
I find those kinds of meta jokes are one of the worst things about nu-simpsons. It's like having your head up your own arse, instead of actually trying to be creative and original. It's ok to do jokes like that once in a blue moon and having them actually be funny, but that constant self-pandering is awful.
Colton Johnson
It was funny because after that, I thought about the other day in a thread people kept posting the same WebM of Homer texting a gif of him to Lisa, phasing into the hedge from the old episode where he becomes friends with Flanders And I just thought this shit must happen a lot now
Noah Perry
sneed
Luis Davis
Don't know if The Simpsons could pull like South Park did and make a seasonal theme instead of the episodic formula it always had
Colton Jackson
Actual Simpsons discussion? Am I still on 4Channel®? Seriously though OP nice thread, you're a braver man than I for taking one for the team and watching Nu-Simpsons to discover why exactly it is so bad. I can't watch it, it breaks my heart Once the show became meta and self aware it was over
Ryder Thomas
comfy simpsons sneed
Ethan Perry
I watched an episode where they went on an island game show or some shit and Marge unironically said "noob" five or six times.
Christian Sanders
South Park barely pulled it off, they can't finish arc storylines well. They just do whatever every week and then are fucked at the end. The Simpsons would be worse because the Simpsons isn't as funny, but I think their schedule would make it possible they could pull it off.
Ethan Williams
Marge is a PC gamer
James Cruz
It's just a bunch of Simpsons fans making jokes for other Simpsons fans. The show is Simpsons Shitposting now. One storyboard artist even snuck Sneed into a newer episode.
Adam Nguyen
There was an episode where Marge gets addicted to a MMORPG and Bart goes and kill her character then feels bad after
Chase Perry
I miss the episodes that had razzing and glove slaps.
pretty sure she said it ironically, which is somehow okay, rewatch it.
Adam Martin
Not just the farmers but all secondary characters outside Flanders, Mr. Burns, Moe and Principal Skinner could get a bit more of screentime
Jace Gutierrez
Good post OP
Noah King
South Park has clearly dropped in quality, but at least you gotta respect the effort in trying new things. It feels like it's an unrestrained show that might actually surprise you, unlike nu-Simpsons.
Adrian Evans
>not 'ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssSNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed' one job user
Sebastian Morris
>It's just a bunch of Simpsons fans making jokes for other Simpsons fans. Spot on
Camden Long
That's because South Park has had the same guy writing every script for years, and he evolves the same way any individual writer does. The Simpsons is always getting new writers, and the new people are always fans of the show and want to make something "just like it."
Hunter Lopez
I've been watching Family Guy, American Dad, South Park and The Simpsons as they've been airing weekly for almost 10 years. The Simpsons is easily the worst animated show still going. They newest episodes actually make me cringe at times like when Lisa messages homer and he sends her the hedge gif. They should just stop. Family Guy is unironically funnier than The Simpsons.
Eli Gomez
There's one thing you missed
background gags >many shots are filled with "funny things" happening in the background, where the joke is that something additional is happening in the shot, and the thing happening isn't actually funny on its own
Just look at this shit. They couldn't just have homer talk to the audience, they needed to bring in an extra character every couple of seconds so you knew that what you were watching was funny!
>meta references They have been abusing this for a while. They know that people watch the show because of what it formerly was, so they try to cash in on its self-mythology.
But luckily no one buys it. In any case, makes it worse because of how painfully obvious it is
The couch gags are beyond terrible. Worst thing is some idiots every now and then buy them, like that 80s retrowave one or the Guillermo Del Toro. It follows the terrible "cram up cultural references" shtick and you'll have some guys thinking it's epic
Really the show is just shit, one can come up with words and words on why it is like that. At this point it's pointless to watch it
Luke Moore
You talk about meta references, but almost every nuSimpsons episode I've had the misfortune of watching has just straight up reused plots from earlier seasons. Like they want to remake episodes where Homer and Lisa bond or something and you're supposed to feel emotions (other than disgust) but they completely lack the ability to write believable human interactions like earlier episodes had (even with the characters being eccentric cartoon characters) so they're utterly worse in every way. I can't give you an exact example off the top of my head, but it's pretty shameless.
>>lots of very morbid references or plot points, with very explicit and morbid references to death and dying. It doesn't even feel like edgy humour, just dark stuff for the hell of it. this is something lazy writers do instead of actual comedy same with characters being mean, or gross stuff
My ocd made me watch simpsons for year after it was bad, to see every episode but it got so ad aout season 27-28 i finaly had to stop watching
Brandon Jenkins
that didnt work at all for south park and i wouldnt like it in simpsons either
>morbid content This actually bothers me a lot I remember in the episode where the simpsons go to kang and kodos' planet, the first scene is the simpsons at a knockoff disneyland, and there's a "joke" where a large group of people standing under a shaded area are hit with acid sprinklers, literally melt away into the drains, and then another group of people enter the shaded area
Gabriel Myers
Family Guy did improve, especially as they greatly reduced the cutaway and "[thing] happens for obnoxiously long amount of time" gags.
Cameron Flores
>gotta respect the effort the continual story stuff was pure laziness it meant they didn't have to come up with a new story each episode and could repeat jokes
S10E05 When You Dish Upon a Star Was full death of the Simpsons
Jeremiah Morris
This isn't an edit? I thought it was until now.
Kevin Ortiz
That's like 10 years old. Also it's shit.
Josiah Parker
I see the shills have resorted to a new tactic. Trying to be critical about the newer seasons and seemingly to be "one of us". The telling part is the "Storylines are a bit better now" at the end. Nice try, Shillsters. HOWEVER
Last episode I watched was the one where they made a parody fantasy setting. Fucking awful shit. And the shoehorned message at the end had been done better by the show before.
Jace Cox
The other day I was trying to think of black Simpsons characters. I could only think of Carl, Lou, Dr Hibbert and the kid with the purple afro.
Anthony Stewart
>One storyboard artist even snuck Sneed into a newer episode.
It's like what miyazaki said about the industry now being full of otakus who aren't really creative but just make references to the stuff they like
Thomas White
Make a time machine, go back, and end it on Season 6.
Julian Allen
south park reference they had this episode where they joke about family guy writers being manatees picking random elements to develop stories vimeo.com/277338577
now that I spoonfed you this hard you have to suck my dick by the way
Matthew Campbell
Oh yeah very true. Again I think this can be funny when done sparingly, but it's like they have to have a dumb joke like that in every other shot. Dumb fucks.
Jose Richardson
Oh yeah you're right, all those reused plots jfc
Ryan Collins
It's apparently much harder to write a seasonal arc, because they're not used to taking into account an overarching story. They said they wouldn't do it anymore because it's too hard. Instead they decided on that "soft" continuity where only some elements are carried over without actually compromising other eps.
Nolan Garcia
Its like, this could have actually been sort of funny if they just let Homer do the fucking schtick, maybe with one or two background gags but thats it. It felt like a YouTube parody.
interesting. i wouldn't submit myself to that torture, but it's always nice to know what happend to that show i actually enjoyed for several years
Michael King
Weeb detected
Adam Lopez
Sneed
Luke Gutierrez
There was an early episode when a new neighbour moves in (the single mom with the daughter that Bart falls in love with) that had a mixed race couple, I believe. But that's it as far as I know.
Juan Davis
Get a new showrunner. Doubt it would fix it but it'd be nice if someone than Al had a turn for once. Dude has bren showrunner for what seventeen years now?
Josiah Myers
Nah I'm a very low-level weeb, where I grew up animes were routinely shown on local tv that's where I got hooked on detective conan (also used to watch dragon ball and shin chan).
Jonathan Sanchez
So the Who Shot Mr. Burns cliffhanger would never be resolved?
Jacob Cooper
>tfw managed to get a simpsons thread going with minimal sneedposting This is what an oldfag looks like
Jose Nelson
GAG on my cock
Nolan Gomez
that´s because you added constructive criticism to the show and that made the sneedposter think for once in their lives
Blake Thompson
me watch cartoons me smarts for rippin it a new one
Wyatt Gray
It should've stopped at 7 or 8 max.
Adrian Carter
is nu south park any good? last season i watched, 5? years ago, was like 2 fun episodes and 10 horrible, boring ones
None of their voices sounds the same anymore...even homer
Benjamin Phillips
Have Bart and Lisa get trapped in a time machine powered by sex. They're lost for years in the future, and the show starts with both of the being 18. They have to fuck their way back to the present, because the Earth is overrun by the dolphins from the Halloween special.
Hit and miss. I sort of liked the serialized season despite everything, but most fa/tv/irgins would disagree. One of the last really great moments was the GoT trilogy, that one was great. But it's still a few good ones and many more meh to bad ones.
Bentley Allen
I honestly never even knew people actually sat down to watch The Simpsons until sneedposting was born
>simpsons """"""""discussion""""""""" >always about how much it sucks and you comfyfags wonder why sneed rekt this show
Caleb Miller
Where on South America?
Lincoln Reyes
This, fucking this
Adrian Jackson
>you should only discuss things you like
Michael Morris
Less reliance on guest stars.
Brody Jones
Kill off Moe, make Sneed the main character
Benjamin Collins
Cancel it and let 6 or so competent creators each spearhead a new show each with the money with little to no corporate oversight.
Isaac Phillips
Based
Owen Rogers
The best anime example is Dragon Ball, was a parody of action anime & journey to the west, but became a full on action show & everyone loved it, Toriyama rolled with it because $$$
The newer episode's animation has that computer animated stiffness that demonstrates the soullessness of its content. Even new Family Guy episodes are funnier. I recently saw an episode from the 1990s where Bart and his friends go on a road trip and that shit was peak comfy.
James Hernandez
i wonder what creative method they'll use to rape the Simpsons corpse next
Mason Sanchez
>Hit and miss.
i guess they never miss huh?
Thomas Clark
The problem is a lack of comedic talent. It doesn't matter how much you shake up the staff: there is no one to replace them. This is a problem prevalent in all of Hollywood-genuinely funny and intelligent people just can't get into the industry anymore. They're relegated to seeding and feeding down at Chucks.
Connor Murphy
No. The show went downhill during season 6 and became trendy dated shit in season 7. Even watching a season from 3 years ago is a chore; it's the most dated show on television
Jaxson Robinson
No, they got their creative shit pushed in by Trump like regular Hollywood chumps. I defend the show all the way up to 2016 the same as King of the Hill: reduced quality and lacks original charm but still tightly produced and funny. Afterwards it's like Season 10-30 of the Simpsons within 3 seasons.
Wyatt Richardson
Family guy always has atleast one dumb gag that makes me smirk, even in the worse episodes. I don't remenber the last time I laughed at a simpsons joke.
Adrian Baker
Spain you dumb mutt. I don't even think soutgh America got shin chan or detective conan. Catalan tv still shows new eps of conan to this day, one of the very gew places in the west that do.
Jason Ross
I like that they have become more self aware with the jokes and they recognizing the shittyness of their own show somehow makes It's funnier. The simpsons can't even make these types of jokes because the writters can't stop smelling their own farts.
Thomas Evans
Not OP but you need to fire the senior writers and put the new guys through their paces over the next season to see who can bring it back to something worth watching. We wouldn't be trying to go back to how the show used to be, we'd be trying to make something people want to watch.
Jaxson Foster
>I don't even think soutgh America got shin chan or detective conan. We did. And our dubs were much better than your shitty Onda Vitales and A Todo Gas shitshows. Neck your fucking self.
Kayden Gutierrez
(formerly friends with Farmer 2)
Wyatt Williams
Sneed
Joseph Edwards
>ywn be friends with Farmer 1 and 2 and go on comfy fuck and suck adventures together It hurts, I don't think this pain is worth living for anymore.
Ayden Allen
...
Adam Young
Sneed
Parker Fisher
Sneed feed and seed
Nolan Baker
Sneeeeeeeeed
Andrew Taylor
SNEED N E E D
Brandon Sanders
this video is more like a 90's screensaver than a tv show
Jaxson Carter
Sneed
Gabriel Williams
this sneed is more like feed than a seed
Matthew Diaz
Only good part: Sneed
Kevin Edwards
Yup. That's zombie Nu-Sneedsons for ya.
Josiah Miller
SNEED
Jack Gutierrez
Looks like the discord trannies are here.
Christian Kelly
Where's the Sneed edit?
Ayden James
sneed
Alexander Cox
This Simpsons show needs to die out or become TV MA and just let it die out being filled with gore an very bad Simpson online jokes we all heard of over the years and sex with Homer being an actual alcoholic who can't hold his job.
Owen Torres
Sneedscord Chuckies
Mason Perez
>East Coast Feed and...?
Jack Williams
I would start fucking and sucking everyone one and everything in sight until I can no longer feed on seed.
