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Didn’t they have an event like this called Monsters Unleashed?

Most Evols (the human/creature hybrids in the story) are way above most Marvel folk that aren't say, Strange (though they are less durable in many ways). A single King that was sealed was considered an absolute apocalypse scenario if the lesser creatures managed to revive it. And even though that same King sustained fucktons of damage in active combat, it seemingly regenerated instantly no matter what was done to it.

Also, all of the Kings in OP basically popped existence. Not sure how quickly they'll be able to mount an offensive before it all goes to hell.

Hakaijuu. If I recall, it's still ongoing.

Aren't they killing billions by just walking? Quite sure every foot print would make the land barren lava pit

>Thor
>Sentry
>Blue Marvel
>Omega Mutants
>Surfer
>Hyperion
>Eternals
>Black Bolt
>Kid Kaiju
>Phoenix Host
>Beta Ray Bill
>Odin
Evols ain't got shit on Marvel Top Tiers, son

Yeah pretty much, basically what happened in the Ultimate universe when original universe Galactus showed up.

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They kill a lot of people but get destroyed within a day or two by the really powerful characters - guys like Thor, the upper tier X-Men, Doctor Strange, etc.

Shit give me the sauce OP, also the art looks very Kamen rider spirits

Yeah, they are. I also count at least 6 or 7 of thrm there, with potentially many more. Even if the heroes do manage to somehow kill them, the world will be pretty much fucked. Not to mention all the lesser creatures that will be fucking about.

All of those have literally jobbed to less. And Sentry has completely fucked off to god knows where, last I checked.

You’re taking on Marvel at their best user, jobbing notwithstanding.

Marvel is never at their best. Certainly not in apocalypse scenarios.

And have also defeated greater. Worst case teleport em to another dimension, or pym particle them to manageable size

The Marvel universe has The Ultimates.

Co-opting your thread, OP. How would the Marvel universe deal with the God Hand and by extension the Idea of Evil?

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What can these assholes do?

Thanks for the rec /m/

The Godhand are literally principles of creation at this point. Killing them may as well be impossible.

My money is on Hulk

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Only World Breaker Hulk seriously matters here.

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That’s what they always say. Then it happens and it’s not so impossible.

>Trying to take on the Mars Attacks guy in the back

I'll pass.

Ant man shrinks them down to micro verse size or something

We've never seen anything so much as inconvenience them. Even a weapon made to kill thrm was all just a part of their keikaku.

>Job to a highschool gym coach in your path

>highschool
God anime and manga are so fucking lame

Do we have to limit this to Marvel or can we also talk about the DC universe
Better yet, is there a manga universe that can survive an attack from both Marvel and DC

>job
Dude had to fucking sacrifice himself just to hold it down and would've died long before then if it weren't for everyone else backing him up. And as it turns out, the Kings just went "lul kididng" and made all his efforts pointless.

isn't this like poor man's Gantz?

Well currently all of the Gamma Mutates are awful death forsaken eldritch beings empowered by some Satanic Kababalah version of Hell, they're all punching a little bit above their weight class

So a squad of highschoolers and their gym coach with fancy weapons can take on the most dangerous version of these things and inconvenience them. Hell, you probably don't even need the Defenders for this. Someone call up Squadron Supreme and they'll have it figured out

I read this, it's complete TRASH. Not even comparable to Gantz, doesn't even have the crazy plot twists and character development of Ashit on Shitan too. OP is a fag as usual

>All of those have literally jobbed to less.
ITT: Idiots who don't understand what "jobbing" means.

I'll give you a hint: it doesn't mean "losing because you're physically weaker."

Did you even read that post? Nobody has ever actually fought a proper King and "won." A recently awakened King was forced back into dormancy for all of a few years and they constantly lost people trying to ensure it wasn't revived. Then they suddenly got wiped out because all the *other* King's decided to take their morning stroll.

Almost all of the original cast died for nothing, gym teacher included.

Didn’t Aaron have the Avengers deal with Celestials suddenly appearing on earth and stuff just like this?

So a squad of highschoolers and their gym coach didn't force a King back into dormancy? I'm not saying they'd win without casualties, I think we all agree theyd lose the angry black supremacist who's power is being Frank Miller's Batman, but they'd still probably win

>Idea of Evil
Easy peasy puddin' pie. DC is good. What does Marvel have to match the Superman Thought Robot?

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They’re interdimensional beings that act upon humanity’s collective will to guide humanity along to a preordained endpoint through causality.

Chaos War Hercules? He recreated the Multiverse.

>Better yet, is there a manga universe that can survive an attack from both Marvel and DC
Tenchi Muyo, Masadaverse (technically not a manga but whatev), Demon King Daimao, etc.

They take them outside of their universe and into theirs, outside of their own dominion.

When you say attack from Marvel and DC, are you tying to every single character in their respective franchise going 100%?
I would say none.
The Big 2 has been in this game way longer than most mangas and has put out some fiction breaking shit.

'Sup.

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Well there's Tenchi and Daimao as I mentioned, but they're the only two mangas that could possibly barely survive.

If you expand it to include VN's though, then the number of things drastically increases.

DC would be fine, but Marvel is pretty fucked. The IoE would thrive there.

iirc the godhand became killable the moment Griffith combined the worlds. Prior to that they didn't have physical forms outside of an eclipse.

What would happen if all the demons showed up in Marvel/DC?
>jobber stare
>ever working
>ever

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Hulk would relish the chance to unload his wrath on these guys.

Not even planet sized. Losers.

If it works on Satan, it works on Femto.

That's a pretty important point. None of these guys are planet sized and Marvel has several entities who can blast the Earth to dust on their own. Hulk, Thor, Monica Rambaeu just off the top of my head.

Gantz is poor man's Gantz already.

The fusing of the worlds merely allowed them to freely manifest themselves and their domains, something they could already do but in a much lessened state per Slan. I doubt they need their current bodies much, if at all.

>did nothing to carnage
>did nothing to captain marvel
>did nothing to thanos
>did nothing to the punisher
lmao

I don't think they would fair well in DC

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It didn't even work on the fucking Punisher, who's so far below the Godhand it isn't even funny.

>Insane man and three writers pets
Don't use bad writing as evidence in a hypothetical, otherwise we'd be able to bring that "King of Hell" garbage into it and be right back here.

>his story does not include a genre-ending threat.

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Apparently, the later chapters actually explain what the Kings are and where they come from. So I'm going to look back on this thread and laugh if it turns out they're some kind of massively multiversal bullshit like the spawn of the Akashic Records or some shit, because manga power escalation.

things can get pretty bullshit with marvel characters, and if not, the writer will bullshit a way.

Won't matter they'd just keep bumping up into higher and higher Marvel tiers until TOAA writes them out if existence.

The Kings just from what we know of them, don't warrant any kind of response from the TR. Maybe if this were an Ultraman thread.

people complain about anime power levels, but honestly outside of stuff like demonbane, comic stuff can get pretty obscene in comparison

Demonbane get obliviated TOBA.

>TOAA
>mattering

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Hal Jordan could be the ultimate shounen protag since he has the latent ability to outwill anything and everything.

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Of TOAA whichever.

comics like to get a lot more meta which leads to ridicules levels of power

I'm pretty sure Shonen Champion is just poor man's Gantz: the magazine.

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Nonsense.

Disregard.

People only really complain when you bring in shit like Hadou Gods, the Lord of Nightmares, Digimon and similar absurdly broken anime things, which are generally fewer compared to say, DC godtiers.

Nope. Canon.

>DC
Handled in like the opening three pages of a JL book.

>Marvel
Marvel canonically can not defeat Sentinels. 616 gets bent over a table and raped into submission.

Sentinels get chewed up every X-men book, the problem is that people keep making more. What are you talking about?

>lord of nightmares
that's a fun one.

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In almost every relevant future, the Sentinels or osemthing similar rape the planet to death.

It's Starlin writing. Thanos at maximum wank would take on the likes of Featherine or Demonbane and somehow manage to win.

He thinks Hickman's X future is the canon one.

Cuz he's a sucker

Are we inviting alternate timelines and future bullshit into this? Because then we could throw Franklin Richards or the Batman who Keks into this and the entire thread goes up in smoke

there's stuff like that, and stuff like Dr. Doom being strong enough to fight the celestials for an eternity.

You know how Hickman jobbed out the Illuminati to the incursions?

He did the same recently to the X-men where it's revealed that Moira is a mutant who has the power to reincarnate with all her memories into a new timeline.

She's gone through 8 timelines with full prep time for each of them and in each of them she and Marvel Earth end up getting fucked by Sentinels.

Sentinels>616. This is canon.

So these uber kaiju which are greater than Sentinels are >616.

I'm sorry, but this is canon. Marvel fans shouldn't have sucked off Hackman's micro chart if they wanted to keep their setting's dignity intact.

To be fair I doubt anything in Hakaiju could take on Thanos with all the bullshit he has at that time. He's like Cell with the bits and powers of every cosmic superbeing in Marvel.

And yet its still canon. Marvel has no real system where they personally label something as being purely non-canon like in DC. HOTU shit is the only case where they really did something like that, and that's because it would close off the setting to every other writer if it became 100% pure canon.

>they make kiddie shit look like kiddie shit
woah

sentinels are only ever a problem for muties. If dr strange cared about mutie rights he could get rid of them all in a lazy afternoon

I'm like halfway through all the scanlated chapters and this is fucking awful. Not even in a fun way, the monsters are just generic sharp teeth and spiked giants. The characters are the most boring I've read yet even by shonen standards. This makes Terraformars look like a masterpiece and that manga was fucking shit.

user, don't start saying that. The story could go full Diebuster with Great Attractor level silliness at any moment.

You mean if they appear literally in the same way Monsters Unleashed did? Read a fucking comic.

>Hackman is canon
We're done here.

It's only one possible future. And a shitty X-Fag one at that. Moira's fever dream.

Hulk survives regardless

Imagine the Cenobites from HellRaiser, but with god like powers. Now imagine they are incapable of crossing to our dimension but can order their minions to do their bidding and every eclipse they do something that gets them one step closer to crossing into our reality.

No. It's all futures Moira has lived through and the one she's in (616).

616 is just not a very strong setting.

>Insane man and three writers pets
Griffith is a writers pet.

He is.

I'm sorry, but he is.

Yeah okay f/a/g.

You come back with that by the time.hickman's run is over.

Sentinels don't matter.

No.

If they are just big things the high tier Leaguers can rip them apart. Yeah they'd cause like the apocalypse, but Superman punching one would blow up half of its side

JLA is also really good at disaster relief and recovery. You'd have the Green Lanterns keep the planet apart while Superman kills them all.

The fallout would be quite bad though, these things are comically big.

MU and DCU deal with Universe Eating Entities on a regular basis.

Some Fag posts, oh hey these guys are as big as continents! How do the world's with 30 planet busters deal with that!

There'd be like one comic in the fallout max.

Everyone would move on.

Usually when the universe eaters come out, more heavy hitters (and sometimes abstract niggas) arrive in response. In this case it's just one planet so the rest of the universe will sleep on that

Don't matter. JLA in Obsidian age played tug-of-war with the hydrosphere for the Earth (it's complicated) and avoided breaking anything because Flash absorbed the kinetic energy. In Adventures of Superman, Earth is moved away from the sun and no one died.

A bunch of big fuckers might cause a few casualties, but nothing major.

Remember the Flash can legit move everyone away from their feet.

Why hasn't anyone posted Powerman.jpg yet

Multiple Planet Busters.

These guys are just big.

They're like Ego's pimples.

Pym

Particles

Even Joe Fixit brokeba planet back in the day.

Worldbreaker is called such because he breaks them by existing.

Powerman not being any kind of canon means you can write something like "and suddenly Powerman was buttfucked to death by Superman" and its just as canon as that annoying jpg.

Powerman rests on the erroneous assumption that vs fights don't revolve around canon and feats when its much to the opposite.

Dammit Clark stop raping Like Cage!

He's not even the Joker.

Gordon has grown too strong.

So like Empty Hand and the Gentry? From DC C9mocs.

Powerman fell down the stairs and died. The end.

You know user there might, just might, be a reason why caon is such a contentious issue in vs battle discussions.

Dumbshit.

Pretty much. Except the Godhand are less meta.

So taking into account this and that one part at the end of Lucifer where The Presence says he isn't totally omnipotent, who's the top dog in comics now? (and for the sake of dumb nerd arguments. how about including all of fiction?)

The Source.

Specifically the uni-friend incarnation of the Source which is the opposite of the Empty Hand.

Acting as the uni-friend, it's one action that I know of was to send the message to Izaya which kicked off the events of the original Kirby run of New Gods comics culminating in the universe being saved from Mandrakk and Darkseid during Final Crisis.

The uni-friend saved DC in its darkest hour.

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The current top dog is actually the Source, per the current JL run, since it's confirmed to be omniversal in power. And the Presence not being totally omnipotent was supported by several things before then.

>(and for the sake of dumb nerd arguments. how about including all of fiction?)
Unironically some horror characters.

And a Rule#34 artist can draw Death of the Endless or Featherine getting raped by minions.

Monsters of the Week. For both Big Two Universes. They might have an easier time in Marvel, since so many of the Superheroes and villains are located in ONE city, unless they make their beach head at NYC.

And yet by their own canon, that would never happen because their feats are greater.

Fuck, Featherine probably writes that kind of shit happening whenever she's bored.

Which proves my point.

>When the pedophilic teacher becomes the absolute most hype thing of the year
I mean, it fell off the map after this but I will never forget the hype I felt watching this all go down. May he be rewarded with his 72 fit teenage virgins.

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>Unironically some horror characters
Are we talking Outer Gods, or Jason Voorhees with two machetes?

Literally every fucking time

Probably all sorts of shit can just faceroll your precious baddie, be it Thor or Surfer or Reed with a gewgaw he just built or Doom with a thing that turned your megathreat into "destroy Richards plot #69831" or quasar or whatever.
And then you'll say some dumb shit about how that won't work because one time each of them was beat by something stupid once so all of them can be beat anytime all at the same time by something stupid. And then here it is, the final line of defense.

Franklin Richards says no.

And whatever stupid thing you brought from whatever dumb fucking franchise you like is gone. The end.
>My precious kills franklin superfast
Adult Franklin shows up, gets rid of your thing, and recreates his younger self.
>My thing destroys time!
Franklin makes some more.

>Franklin can't mentally handle my thing
Honestly, that makes it even easier for him to just recreate the universe without your stupid thing in it.

>Franklin is stupid
Maybe, but your thing just got fucking noselled by him, so who's stupid now?

Outer Gods, whatever the main villain from IDV is, [X] SCP, the Crimson King, Dresden Files stuff,Alan Wake and Control, Judy, etc.

Horror isn't just slasher shit, and it shouldn't be treated as such.

Or does it make the minions in the canon of the pic multi omniversal + via power scaling?

It makes it non canon.

VS battle faggots are autistic about canon. It's why Powerman is such an entry level meme.

God this sounds insufferable to argue against, and Franklin at the end of the day is just a high-tier reality warper. I can't imagine how autistic it gets when people include bullshit VN "stronger than the author" characters or meta-narrative niggas

No, because the minions function off of nonsense porn logic, which is not only non-canon, but is also the kind of logic that forsake any actual feats or abilities a character might have in favor of whatever degeneracy the creator wants.

It's like those Astrid/Pig pics, which ignore the fact that Berk would literally have the dragons massacre the offending parties who allowed such a thing.

Sounds like a normal Thursday for Dr Strange.

So then because Featherine is a more poorly written character then most Sonic recolors her power calms are invalid?

I just mention shit like Hadou Gods whenever a Franklinfag gets uppity.

Franklin is more powerful than Wanda or Nate, and Wanda not only rewrote her home reality, she erased mutants and rewrote futures across the entire fucking multiverse.

If he could theoretically beat TOBA, he could beat the God Hand

>A living universe
You think that's more powerful than Franklin? Ha. Thanos beat one of those.

>Marvel canonically can not defeat Sentinels. 616 gets bent over a table and raped into submission.

Wouldn't the Sentinels just keep evolving and adapting until they, in turn, bent the Kings over a table and raped them into submission?

Some nip characters operate at an omniversal (if that's the closest fitting term) level, where every other multiverse in fiction (Marvel, DC, Looney Tunes, etc) is below them. It gets really retarded really fast.

Gudou Gods are more living universes. Hadou Atziluth is where you get passively overwriting the multiverse and all its concepts just by doing anything from.

Franklin can't do shit if suddenly concepts like "Franklin", "Richards", and everything relating to him not only no longer exist, but are flat out impossible under the new Law.

Laws were made to be broken.

Wasnt Griffith able to steer causality to make himself untouchable?
Havebt read the manga in a couple years

Well, I don't think they are on the same level as good old Shuma, so yeah.

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Unfortunately, Franklin can't do anything because he and the rest of his setting no longer exist under the now reigning Law.

>Marvel, canonically, has futures, plural, in which sentinels evolve into a form that can't be handled by the biological life forms there. It also has plenty where life snuffs sentinels entirely and easily, and ones where Ultron or the Phalanx or Apocalypse conquer the earth.

Really big, very tough monsters are not a match for Marvel at its best or even average, and you know that, companyfag. Fuck, the entire DC universe is about to get it's shit knocked around for months by Clown Batman, so fuck off.

He already broke it

Sorry, but he can't. Doesn't have Taikyoku, and he wouldn't be able to react fast enough even if we make the massive assumption that he does.

Those are your universe’s rules, not Marvel’s

That's just trumped Wanda.
>But but my nip Majesty does everything everywhere forever for all time and beats all I shot you you have to lie down and die

Nope.

Clown characters deserve to be in a tier of their own. They never seem to completely play by the rules of their own settings.

Just stating how Hadou Gods work. If we aren't discussing how they actually function, we may as well be discussing your Marvel fanfiction where it wins everything forever. Which is equally garbage.

In fact, the whoel reason why things like the Beyonders, the First Firmament, and even fucking Thanos have fucked things up in Marvel on s cosmic scale is solely because they mess up the system of power and balance it rush on. In the Beyonders case, they literally did not conform to it, meaning they could do whatever.

Despite what you claim, Marvel would fold like fucking paper against any high-powered setting that doesn't give a damn about its metaphysical rules.

They may be hot shit in your web trash, but when facing off against the Big Two, they’re just plain shit.

See . Marvel "powerlevels" are garbage, when even TOAA can get fucking reduced to squirming impotently by a giant, throbbing eggplant.

They don't function like you say they do even in their setting.

Enjoy your fanfiction.

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user, you don't even know how Shinza metaphysics work. Because if you did, you'd realize that your post is horseshit. Hadou Gods quite literally function like that, and it's made clear several times.

Dude just look at Dies Irae. The number 2 power there was afraid of a supernova and the number 1 got himself killed with what, at its most generous interpretation, was a universe killing black hole.

That ain't shit.

Hadou Atziluth don't function on some linear scale where X attack needs to be bigger to denote more power. They function at any scale, with zero limitations on what they can do.

Reinhard for instance can stop multiverse-busting supernovas in their tracks with WWII era weaponry, which also possess multiverse-breaking firepower due to his nature as a Hadou God. Mercurius can cause the entire multiverse to get pulled into a Great Attractor, or cause it to get sucked into a single giant blackhole across all iterations, or condense power into a reality shattering supernova, or turn all existence into an elementary particle and toss it into his opponent's past to cause them to get spontaneously deleted.

Shinza gives absolutely zero shits about the scale of its attacks. You could get hit by a WWII,era bombing run by something like Reinhard, and you'd still get fucking annihilated across every layer of reality in all your variations because that's how shit works when you're a Hadou God.

Power lvl fags get the fuck out and go back to whatever fag forums you came from!

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>Ignores canon when it's inconvenient
>Canon is absolute across all everything forever when it is
Sure thing, weebtrash.

Yea Forums is one of the biggest powerlevel-obsessed boards on the site. That's not happening.

>With zero limitations
Except you know--

>Limited to their one gimmick which they can't control.
>Limited in scope unless they have the throne
>Are powered by souls and use up those souls to function. Reinhard burns up several of his Nazi Bois fighting Merc

>Entire multiverse
The fuck? No where in Dies Irae does it say Merc created a multiverse except when it calls the other timelines caused by Merc resetting time whenever he doesn't get killed by his waifu a "multiverse."

>Reality shattering supernova
Which only covered the supernal universe of the throne Merc and Reinhard fought in. The universe with Earth was unaffected as was the pocket dimension Ren was pulled into.

>Turn all existence into an elementary particle and toss it
I've seen a lets play of Dies Irae and I've never seen Merc actually do this though I've seen it quoted before.

>Shinza gives absolutely zero shits about the scale of its attacks
Except when it does. That's why Reinhard no selled a bunch of comets but went OH SHIT against a supernova and died to a black hole.

Yeah, just look at what Flex Mentallo using his hidden power did in Milk Wars. Come to think of it Milk Wars makes the case that DC as a whole is stealth a clown setting.

user, someone brought up the same point that you're making when asking why the supposed "guillotines that could split universes in half" of Tenma Yatou didn't produce any obvious collateral damage. Masada himself stated that was because he didn't want them to, whilst still having them carry that exact same force behind them, likening it to something tanking a nuclear weapon head on, then a sword strike easily crushing said thing which wouldn't budge even when hit by nukes or something akin to that. Hadou Gods give no shit about scale, per word of the creator himself.

How about Supernova that can kill Gods reigning over entire universes instantly? Or Dora Guns capable of clashing in equal terms with said Supernova? Or literal World War II era artillery and tank fire that can seriously hinder a multiverse creating God? All of this has literally happened. Shinza is one of those causes where AOE =/= attack potency. Stop acting like it does.

Just think all of this madness could’ve been nipped in the bud if only Death either had lower standards or was more willing to just cut and dump an ex instead of leaving him hanging for ages and ages

And I want you fags in /trash/ where you belong or better yet off Yea Forums altogether!!

Also, Dies Irae is part of a franchise. KKK reveals that Mercurius actually created an entire multiverse via his Law, and that any other God couldve down the same. They just didn't care.

It also reveals that Gods function on any scale with any ability, and that all concepts stem from them. When they devour the Law of an opposing God, they overwrite that multiverse with themselves and all the concepts it previously held are completely erased to make room for themselves. The Throne helps to make it clear that they're the reigning God now, but they don't need it to do this. It's a passive effect that can only be tested by an opposing God of equal or greater Taikyoku.

>Tenma Yatou
Now we're talking about untranslated works, and given the big comedown that was reading Dies Irae in English I'm skeptical to say the least.

>Hadou Gods give no shit about scale
Except when they do. Having swords capable of destroying universes does not negate that we've seen Hadou gods in Dies Irae run up against limits. The very existence of the throne shows that there are limits.

>How about supernova that can kill gods reining over entire universes instantly?
The hell did this happen?

>LIteral WW2 era artillery
Reinhard got his golden ass kicked during the fight. It only ended in a "tie" because Merc commited suicide with a black hole. Literally all he had to do to win was spam a few more supernovas.

Planetbuster heroes on both universes would have little to no problem dealing with them

>KKK
Oh joy. I love debating something with no official English translation.

>Mercurius actually created an entire multiverse
Then please describe to me what the different universes were like. Because he made absolutely 0 other universes in Dies Irae and no, resetting a single universe does not count as creating a "multiverse."

That's how Marvel canon works. Rather than top-down retcons through Crises or events, Marvel mostly works on pretend it never happened.

Marvel is an OS that does system updates, DC is an organism that goes through periods of violent growth and change with old parts dying to facilitate the birth of the new.

>Now we're talking about untranslated works, and given the big comedown that was reading Dies Irae in English I'm skeptical to say the least.
KKK does have translations. If oyure going to throw those out, then there's no point in continuing with this, since that works as a basis for a lot of what we actually know of Hadou Atziluth.

See above. There's no point in continuing this, since you yourself have admitted you got all your knowledge from a fucking let's play of all things.

>KKK does have translations
Fan translations. And anyone familiar with the wank that went on with Fate translations should know to be leery of those.

>All your knowledge from a fucking lets play
OF THE GAME
WITH THE OFFICIAL ENGLISH TRANSLATION

I tell you that Raiden judo flips a mech are you going to call bullshit because I saw it on youtube?

god, that crossover was so fucking stupid

but does it become better since we now know Titans = Jews?

>Then please describe to me what the different universes were like
This feels like a fair demand.

>Fan translations. And anyone familiar with the wank that went on with Fate translations should know to be leery of those.
Masada himself saw said translations, got questions about them, and more or less confirmed that they're right for the most part, even answering God questions. Eat shit.

Also, a lot of Dies Irae suffers from mistranslations as people have found, so maybe don't use that as a basis for an argument.

It's not, because not every setting is DC where a massive cosmology is mapped out to every individual grain of sand.

>Basically, giant monsters suddenly appear all over the planet with zero forewarning
That’s just the ending of Watchmen.

>Masada confirmed the translations
Link?

>It's not
Okay. Name just 2 more universes.
1 if you can't name even 2.

Ghost Rider villains that start out strong but have worn out their welcome by the time their arc ends because the writer kept pushing them as the big bads behind everything. Recurring Dr. Strange villains that always feel like they're not being used to their potential. Controversial but well-loved by those who do X-Men villains. God-tier Spectre villains but only when written by Ostrander and maybe Priest. Poorly plotted and OOC villains in a Bendis LoSH arc that everybody feels is just a subpar retelling of Morrison's Action Comics run and Great Darkness Saga. Poorly used villains in a well-written Grant Morrison story that are arguably just as misused and OOC as under Bendis, but a legion of fanboys shout you down every time you say something critical.

>They're right
>For the most part
Oh THAT'S reassuring.

Strange solos, I mean it’s not this is the first time he’s been given omnipotence

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user, do you ask people to name every universe in the Dark Tower cosmology, where whole multiverses are in blades of grass? Or Lensman, where a whole multiverse is noted to exist and confirmed several times? Maybe R-TYPE where realities and timelines are just noted to be a thing the Bydo infest by nature? Or perhaps we'll discuss Zelda, where the Golden Goddesses accidentally'd an entire multiverse due to how powerful they are?

Not every setting is fucking capeshit. Sometimes, infinite realities just get dropped as a thing that exists. And given how Shinza works, it's impossible to keep an accurate guide to multiverses, because every new Law wipes away the old and replaces it with something different. One day, it could literally just be a fucking donut for all that that God may care.

Masada's writing is nigh-impossible to understand even for nips. Having him say that it's even halfway correct is a major fucking accomplishment.

Molecule man for reference. The dude is Dr Manhattan on steroids

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If OP's manga is anything like Magical Girl Apocalypse, all my interest just evaporated. That manga was completely pointless unless you like edge for its own sake.

Unless I have very badly misread The Dresden Files, or forgotten something quite important, none of the baddies in it are on the level of some of the other stuff that you've mentioned.

According to Butcher, He Who Walks Behind is an Uriel-level threat, and Uriel is apparently doing shit all across the multiverse(s) as the choices of mortal beings constantly creates new realities where great evils can flourish, and he can snuff galaxies out with but a passing thought. Presumably the other Walkers are at similar levels of power.

OP specified Marvel universe. They'd have no chance, best to let them die.

It’s always been strange, pun intended, that Strange never takes over the world with how often power’s been flung into his hands. If Doom could harness the power of the Beyonders it’s hard not to think Strange could’ve done it even better if only he wasn’t as squeamish.

Um. He’s certainly up there, and I’ll reserve a direct Manhattan comparison for when we find out how they actually deal with Doc but-didn’t he recently get ganked by some random entropy bitch the F4 in turn forced into retreat by threatening to blow up her spaceship and leave her stranded in some dimension, and hasn’t been seen since?

>Cope, the post

...Except in Dark Tower, Lensmen, and and Zelda these other timelines and universes are described and explored.

Just name one other universe in the Masadaverse user. Isn't every character supposed to be omni/ultra/hyperversal or whatever?

Not an argument.

That reminds me, they always have Reed to bail the Marvel-verse out of anything with his stupidly overpowered comic intelligence. Given enough time, and minimal resources, he always finds an answer

>Poorly used
Man, I liked Seven Soldiers but I thought I was the only one who though the Sheeda were big damn jobbers for civilisation-eating future elves.

Hey speaking of Masada, why is the Tumor powerful enough to fuck Hajun’s law anyway? I know Hajun is a weird Broly thing where instead of absorbing gods to become more powerful he’s so mad his (nip word for hadou god powerlevel) is treated as immeasurable, but then he actually absorbs some Hadous to get rid of them and it starts dipping. Is that what gave the Tumor leeway to amp the protags enough to beat him, or was it just as powerful as him because they shared a bodyverse?

>..Except in Dark Tower
Only a few. Not all of them, because that's fucking impossible.

>Lensmen
Not even once. Maybe when the Unit is tracking their dad, but that's jsut them zipping by and nothing more. The whole crux of the conflict is Civilization vs Boskone, which is in a single universe up until the Eddorians turn up.

>Zelda
Perhaps your only real point, and that's only in the games we have so far. It never shows the full bulk of things, beyond it being pretty much infinite and that the Goddesses went out to create more per HH.

>Just name one other universe in the Masadaverse user.
KKK if you'd accept that (Which you won't). Technically doesn't count either, because it's a new multiverse under an entirely new Law, where people who somehow managed to cross over from the old Law can't even communicate because they're speaking in a language that doesn't exist anymore (Old Japanese, IIRC).

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Well, if it’s not Reed it’s Strange or Thanos when Thanos isn’t being the main villain (let’s face it, Adam Warlock might as well be Thanos’ cheerleader at this point). Let’s face it Thanos is a much worse case because on top of “he’s supah smart” he also had the story “justification” of “he’s such a fucking space Chad cosmic abstracts sit up and take notice of him, and even TOAA granted him an audience once”. Not talking about Heart of the Universe if it was unclear, meant the arc about him negotiating for the old version of Warlock to become the new Living Tribunal after the Beyonders attack.

Huh. That’s a thing, Annihilius the space bug killed all the major earthbound heroes plus Thor and Loki simply by zerg rushing them with bug soldiers.

Although Strange’s “save everything from cosmic crisis” moments tend to be a lot more self contained.

>why is the Tumor powerful enough to fuck Hajun’s law anyway?
It's his stillborn parasitic brother. In a way, the Tumor is both the reason for his rampant growth (Because his desire to escape form it and everything else kept on boosting his Taikyoku) as well as his core weakness (the Tumor getting removed decreases him to 'just' a plain Hadou God).

>but then he actually absorbs some Hadous to get rid of them and it starts dipping. Is that what gave the Tumor leeway to amp the protags enough to beat him, or was it just as powerful as him because they shared a bodyverse?
Him assimilating other Gods and using their Laws weakens him because his Law isn't compatible with their own (theirs involve various degrees of cohesion. His is just pure isolation for all eternity), and technically speaking, the Tumor is on the same level as him as its boosting him and boosting itself in turn.

In Pantheon, the thing ends up becoming his brother/sister and acts as the reigning Heaven, and ends up sharing his Law.

I keep forgetting his actual powers are being stretchy. They just seem so incidental when viewed with the whole "super-genius who performed surgery on the universe" shit

Huh. Since they’re all “flesh” in a sense and the Green can fuck with metaphysical trees like the world tree in the previous JLD run that Prayala the void absorbed, reckon a skilled user of the Red from DC could tap into the Tumor?

Oh yeah Pantheon’s being made again, that’s a thing now, and apparently Gobbo Slayer is canon in it? Gonna flip the table if it turns out the “threat” that damn chair is summoning all the Hadoos up for turns out to be Nyarlathotep from Demonbane.

They kind of explored the ramifications of his being stretchy power in The Maker. The execution has been...disappointing ever since he got integrated into the main Marvel multiverse, though. Seems these days he’s forgotten all about his old aspirations and is content being basically Marvel’s Batman Who Laughs. I mean yeah allegedly he’s doing shit for MM but with his usual attitude and MM dead I don’t see that lasting.

Punch them really hard

>reckon a skilled user of the Red from DC could tap into the Tumor?
Probably. Might not be a good idea if it's still attached to Hajun (hell, might not be a good idea even if it isn't), but the Red could likely try and tap into it. Not like Hajun really needs him/her/it/yes anymore, since his default is now ever-changing Taikyoku.

As for Pantheon, the big bad is probably some kind of cosmic horror worse than the Gods. Probably not Nyarlathotep, but soemthing nasty at least.

Why does it seem like Japanese media (VNs and games in particular) have so many overpowered characters/settings? To compare with Marvel, anybody below TOAA/The Living Tribunal might as well be chumps

Because VNs are usually extremely chuuni but the og strongest characters will always be from Lovecraft

They think big explosions and dramatic fights are cool. There’s not that much to it under the surface, really. Powerlevels and shit are literally the weeb version of kayfabe posturing. Put it down to increased cultural familiarity with theology and a martial tradition if you have to.

And I don’t know. The Sentry, Nate Grey, Silver Surfer, Thor on a good day, Dormammu, Shuma-Gorath, Thanos with the gauntlet, All-Black the Necrosword, whoever is Captain Universe at the moment, the Beyonders, God of Gods Hercules all seem fairly competitive

I thought the Overvoid was still the strongest?

Is that guy in the bottom corner stomping on a tiny Space Kaiju from Gunbuster?

We haven’t heard from him, and I’m not sure if “strong” is accurate so much as “vast”. The narratives of DC were unwilling imposed upon it after all, and however Snyder resolves THAT apparently the Monitor (did I mention Final Crisis Monitors are chunks of him simultaneously somehow?), Anti-Monitor and World Forger were “rent from the flesh of the Overvoid” by Perpetua.

The OG strongest characters are from the Night Land, which inspired Lovecraft. And strictly speaking, Lovecraft itself has been outclassed by several other things.

I mentioned IDV earlier in the thread, in which apparently the main villain has two Outer Gods on payroll. And one of the characters has the Silver Key, amongst other things.

What IS IDV anyway?

Basically an asymmetrical slasher game like Dead By Daylight, but actually good.

That's because, unlike Doom, Strange is actually pretty well-versed in the greater cosmic order of things and knows that he needs the power he's given to deal with much more important things than playing King of the Earth.

They're all competitive and more than half would be able to smash Goku's skull in, but I'm talking about ones that could casually blow up multiverses like the ones in that big dumb nerd argument like 50 posts ago. It sounds comical even writing it out

Tell them how it is.

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Shinza, Tenchi and even Digimon aren't really the norm for nipshit. They're particularly high powered, even amongst those cases.

How is tenchi OP? I thought he was just a harem MC

Do you want me to start with the casual multiverse-creating goddesses, the even more powerful (comapred to their avatars) counteracting force they ended up making, or Kami Tenchi?

All you are saying is that this series is garbage and accomplishes nothing in its existence.

Pleas the Choushin thots couldn’t even stop depleted light particles.

Can't really comment on the games, but for VNs its cause some of them are fantasy/supernatural with a focus on the topic and themes dealing with the meaning of existence, life, reality, etc. which leads to scenarios of the universe being fucked around.

Because they didnt want to. Everything was a part of their experiment more or less.

Hur dur character was omnipotent except that one time they had defined limitations except they were just pretending. Masaki is a hack.

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how the fuck do you make a character stronger then Azathoth?

like there are a bunch of gods beyond human comprehension and you create a bunch r beyond that and then you create an omnipotent super god .and then you say that all of reality including the omnipotent god are just Azathoth´s dreams.

okay, I just read up to ch 26, how did that horror thing end up as what Im assuming is shonen/seinen shit in the OP?

Freddy Krueger?

Okay, ya got me OP. here is something cathartic about having a soldier on every window of a skyscraper firing an RPG in unison.

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Any Jungi Ito work, as it ends underwhelmingly domestic before any real shit starts happening.

The Choushin designed their experiment solely to see whether or not there was something greater than them. They succeeded.

The Counter-Actor was a happy little accident.

You go full meta-narrative. Shit like Judy, more SCPs than I can list, etc. Only literal retards trying to make Azathoth encompass all of fiction make it seem completely and absolutely inviolable, when even Lovecraft himself didn't make Azathoth to account for the kind of power escalation that goes on nowadays.

Yes Tenchi is poorly written.

But what do you expect it’s a shitty harem amine.

That was Adrian's little joke.

>great horror comic
>becomes generic shonen battle comic after the first 50 chapters, just with
Man, what a disappointment.

And anyways, to answer your question OP, you've got heroes like Dr. Strange whose whole MO is dealing with threats like this. In practice, they're not that different from, at worst, Shuma Gorath. The Kings are basically just meaty Celestials. There's be huge death tolls, but they're nothing the cosmic heroes or reality warpers can't deal with in the end.

'K. You can say what you want, user. Just know that 99% of what you like is also similarly shit, if not worse.

At some point, one of the Kings awakens and shit gets progressively fucked. The Evols are introduced earlier, tho.

Overall however, it's still horror in many ways. But it's also a kaiju story, so it escalates.

Could Godzilla beat them?

It's also just not the kind of thing he's into. He doesn't even want to lead a team unless he really has to, let alone rule the world. In Secret Wars, he had the opportunity to gain the Beyonders' powers and become god of everything, and he chose not to.

Wtf is going on in the Manga. Last I read they were leaving the city in a helicopter and it crashes. I gotta get back to it

I know what you mean. seriously, just start at chapter 30ish

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They're larger than most versions of Godzilla, and regenerate far too quickly. Earth, Final Wars (maybe) and the comics could definitely do it. But most others? No.

Being self-aware that you’re a shit writer doesn’t make your writing not shit.

Not really, it’s because I read quality literature I can objectively say shit harem anime you look upon with nostalgia goggles is shit.

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Did Tenchi fuck your girlfriend or something?

A composite Godzilla could probably do it.

A composite Godzilla is basically a multiversal God. That's well beyond overkill.

Sounds like a Friday for the marvel earth

No it just sucks.

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Not sure what you're proving by spamming cropped porn, buddy.

In don’t know ether, what am I proving?

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Azatgoth doesn't seeing the biggest dick in Lovecraft's writings. That's probably Yog Soggoth. Dude controls a universe at best, and is really just a tentacally version of the dreaming god from pangea.

Ain't even an original concept.

Anime characters can't beat a stronger opponent. Without power they are nothing.

Except for Gutts. He's pretty cool.

I think you're jsut an autistic shitposter angry because not everyone hates Tenchi as much as you do.

Either way, enjoy your vacation.

>That one asshole from Yea Forums comes to Yea Forums because nobody gives him any attention anymore.
>Starts to sperg out and post porn because somehow that means he wins
Your favorite manga is shit and nobody cares that you like it

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Acutely why don’t you go bake to Yea Forums faggot?

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>bake
based ESL poster

Posting porn means I win? Well alright then.

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The combined backblast of that many rockets would be hilarious