Is Batman a Gary Stu?

Is Batman a Gary Stu?

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No, that's Superman

Everyone hates him and complain about him. He's miserable and suicidal. Even his sidekicks hate his guts and constantly call on his judgment. The dude was about to marry a literal ex-prostitute that constantly shit-talked him to others calling him a broken manchild.

No. That's Captain "better than Jesus and John Lennon" America.

Nope

I know.
It just felt fitting with the other thread about Superman.

He's not that well respected and he's certainly not beloved.
He doesn't feel happiness nor fulfillment.
Even his closest associates doubt his sanity, actions, and judgment.
Hell, even the woman he loves holds no respect for him and treat him as a charity case in which she's feel stupid for wasting her life to be near him.

Fair enough

George Harrison was better than Jesus and John Lennon.

yes

No Tom Kings Batman is a pussy

No one ever accused Marvel heroes of being Gary Stus
Probably because they barely count as heroes, I guess.

>No one ever accused Marvel heroes of being Gary Stus
It's because "IT'S DIFFERENT WHEN IT'S MAHVEL!!"

Batman making plans to defeat White Martians makes Batman a Maty Sue.

Powerless toddlers from the Marvel Universe making plans to defeat omnipotent beings is "amazing writing".

It's just the way things are.

No he's one of those Sherlock Holmes/Doctor House types who's an asshole but he's hyper competent so everyone "has to" put up with him. I think it sucks but some people lap that shit off the floor.

To be fair I think it's just another case of wallet jealousy. They are poorfags too salty to emphatize with anyone on a higher level than just how much they possess.

Poorfags don't think rich people can also struggle, this is why some poorfags shouldn't be considered people

Being nice is for pussies and fake people.

I like campy nice Batman, who is a fatherly figure to Robin. Why can't we have nice Batman

Because Batman has to be insane in the mainbrane for putting on a costume and fighting crime, you see.

fpbp

you're a pussy.

A bad pussy.

But the toddler that can defeat omnipotent beings using nothing but prep-time is also RICHER than Batman. How do you explain that?

DC characters can't do anything without being called Mary Sues. Marvel characters can do everything, no matter how absurd, and they will never be called Mary Sues.

You got that right.

Literally who?

Valeria Richards.

She has no powers, she is just so "smart" that she became the smartest person in the universe when she was 3.

Have you ever seen people bitching about that?

No, but I wish I had.
Like I said, it's just poorfags who hating on bats

Valeria gets the excuse of being a legacy character for the family that started marvel

no one's better than Jesus bruv

Not currently.

Now he’s a PTSD idiot that cant do anything and needs Catwoman to save him. Not to mention everyone hated him for being crazy and beating his children. And he caused the death of the man who raised him like a son while traumatizing his actual son.

Shut up, Lex.

Um, sweaty, you can't have superheroes having fun. A man putting on a costume to dress up like a bat and punch people in colorful outfits is serious business.