Your regular OP couldn't make the new thread because his head exploded and he went to sleep, . Whatever you want to say to him, don't say it to me because I have nothing to do with him.
Reminder to be nice to your fellow rivals. You can try by saying something nice about the two e.g: >Raven Ah yes, personally one of my favorites in terms of the Teen Titans. Despite her quiet nature she certainly holds a big heart that comes out when the time is just right. There are some episodes that features her past and background very well, and I appreciate her personality and what she has to offer within her own group. A good character altogether >Nicole She's quite the funny one, a character that is not to be underestimated within her own show. I appreciate her tough, yet rough spirit she has towards her family because in the end; she loves them in her own way. Of course just like other characters she faces certain challenges and is seen overcoming them, I like the little character development, which makes her a likable character in my perspective.
Just a remind, regardless of who you vote for, it won't change the fact that you will never hold your waifu. & provided that she was somehow real, she most likely wouldn't give any user, regardless of if it were you or I, the slightest time of day. >Tldr, our waifu isn't real & she wouldn't like us regardless.
>characters I don't like are winning you HAVE to fucking cancel this tournament. this isn't Yea Forums voting, it's the discord normalfag tumblrite redditards.
Landon Martinez
I'm a fucking retard who only knows hot to copypaste. Here's the last thread, in case anyone wants to see the shitposting:
People thought she didn't qualify so she didn't get enough votes.
David Gray
will she fuck me if i do?
Grayson Wilson
>hot how* For fucks sake.
Ethan Adams
You know I don't even care if Spinel wins anymore. I'm just going to say Jenny rigged this whole thing from the start, posed as Spinel, just to be Ms Yea Forums 2 years running
>YOU HAVE TO CANCEL THE TOURNAMENT CANCEL IT CANCEL IT! HACKING1 HDIHDOINXO3!ioio SHUT THE FUCK UP DUDE, YOU PEOPLE ARE A PAIN IN THE FUCKING ASS. YOU CONSPIRATORIAL DUMBASS ASS AND ASS SPOUTING THE SAME BULLSHIT OVER AND FUCKING OVER AGAIN. I HAVE HAD IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!!. SHUT. THE. FUCK UP. DIE. FUCKING DIE.
Aaron Diaz
>Hekapoo thick demon who unfairly died because Star is a cuck >Demencia hot goth lizard girl who just wants the BH porn of them together when?
>Normal gym leader, with an emphasis on sound based moves >Dark gym leader >Water gym leader >Grass gym leader >Fighting gym leader >Ground gym leader >Fairy gym leader >Steel gym leader
Brayden Thompson
>the ever present silent but eternal furry audience I-I fear no man, but...
Blake Jones
Please consider voting for Raven. She's a good girl that, despite her tragic upbringing and numerous unfortunate events, has maintained a heart of gold. Don't be fooled by her stoic demeanor or by those who post her often on Yea Forums; she is very kind once you earn her trust and will go so far as to put your wellbeing over hers. I don't care who wins but please do not hold Raven in contempt thanks
>A waifu banlist >Unironic Muriel surge >Discord brigades >Offshoot tournament arguments >Asshurt Karafags >Fusefag returns >Spanish Shilling >Loli vs Normalfag arguments >Yea Forums gets STEVENED.com >Rabid Avatarfagging >In thread ERP >Tinkspam followed by radio silence >user has a pinkie on the line >Steven X Azula shipping >Comicfag Genocide >Reddit false flags >OPs spirit in shambles >Based radical centrist cacoposter >/trash/ called in to fight off the SUfags >Unironic furfagXAntiSU alliance >Fusefag apologizes >Calls to end the tournament >OP FUCKING DIES HOLY SHIT >JK just senile at 20 >Sextuplet GET is an AntiSU Blackpill >Russian Hackers asking for proofs >Anti-Spinelfags DDOS reddit in retaliation >ROUND 3
Jenny's a swell gal, she deserved the win. I have nothing against Spinel but I don't think someone as controversial as her should get the number one spot.
>Best I'd like to say Peni, but that would be biased. Gonna have to say Sheilafags. They're laying it a little thick with the vote begging but I respect them for trying to represent sanity in an insane thread. I respect Spinel and Azulafags for being legit waifufags too.
>Worst Anti-vote fags, conspiracyfags, and doomposters.
> Anti-Spinelfags DDOS reddit in retaliation Really?
Carson Hughes
Gaz just wants to play videogames
Isaac Moore
REEEEEEEE PINK WOMAN BAD PINK WOMAN BAD PINK WOMAN BAD PINK WOMAN BADDDDDD REEEEEEEEEEEE THIS IS ALL I CAN SAY AS AN SU FAN REEEEEEEEEEE REEEEEEEE EVERYTHING IS BLACK AND WHITE AND SPINEL LITERALLY DID NOTHING WRONG ITS OKAY TO TAKE YOUR ANGER OUT ON STRANGERS AS LONG AS YOURE AN ABUSE VICTIM OKAY?!?! RREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I HOPE SUSAN EGAN DIES A PAINFUL DEATH SPINEL SPINEL SPINEL SPINEL SPINEL REEEEREEEEEEEEEEEEE RAGE RAGE RAGE PINK DIAMOND A CARTOON IS WORSE THEN REAL LIFE FUCKING ISSUES REEEEEEEEEEEEEE PINK WOMAN BAD SPINEL IS GOD SPINEL IS GOD AND CAN DO NOTHING WRONG REEEEEEEE
She'd probably be up for a one night stand if you're attractive, but keep in mind she's a Greek goddess, which means she's fickle as fuck. She'll probably wake up by your side, stroke your chest with her finger sensually, then decide she's done with you and shove you into the puppet dimension.
>Judy Hopps A very lovable and likable character from an amazing movie. Her movie showed great character progression and is probably one of my favorite films. >Raven A good character from an equally great show. She holds a special place in the childhood of many including myself and was always a great voice of reason.
Raven was a boogieman last year, not as bad as Spinel but still. Lots of Raven threads with RRR being so popular at the time, spitevoting kept her out.
Lucas Brooks
Who would you hope for her first matchup?
David Ramirez
Nah, they're both making it. CN crew, Disney damsels, furries, CGIs and bolndes are out, though
You’re lucky they used 2D Punz, it’s the only reason i’ve been voting for her.
Jack Nguyen
Frankie is overrated as shit to be honest
Austin Edwards
>The asians are out next Peni is going to make it to top 8! Predicting Damsels, Star, CN and Furry get knocked out simultaneously.
Luke Mitchell
>Shego Definitely the best character from Kim Possible, I really like the hyper competent underling dynamic she had with her boss and that was definitely the brightest moments of the show >Pacifica I want to say something nice I really want to BUT HOW THE FUCK DID THIS PIECE OF SHIT BEAT FRIDA FUCK YOU >Azula I want her to step on me and her love route in the trainer game is really good but I wish there was a player submission route and not just a slave route
Landon Nelson
This dude gets it, Judy is gonna be fuckin shot in the face.
Alexander Perry
Every other waifufag, how about a truce to agree to vote for the character against spinel? Knock her out before coming for each other.
I’m not, but that was the confusion that led to her fall last year. This year she hasn’t been spammed as much and we have a clear villain to shield spite voting from pretty much every other girl.
the single, solitary reason raven didnt win last time was spite votes. And those spite votes are focused elsewhere this time around So she's going to win like she would have the first time and the same retards who voted against her last time will be cheering for it
Evan Moore
Hell yeah.
Hunter Myers
huge fan of the movie, but I can't waifu or even daughterfu coraline
Andrew Flores
How would Malcolm react if his wife wins/loses the contest?
You know he'd try to win Mr Yea Forums as retaliation, and then get butthurt when Rusty wins
Ryder Hall
It's once a year, just enjoy it.
Luke Murphy
>a spic with bipolar nah, eat piss.
Isaac Diaz
>Best Spy Alex is the sole TS survivor
As if there were any fucking doubt baby! Keep going Alex! Dominate that Dominator! Yellow has lantern advantage against green unless you're Hal!
F for: >Jinx >Zatanna >Blue Diamond >Francine though I went with Pacifica >Satina but Daphne is obviously good >Mavis though that was a strong match >Mulan
Man some tough matches here. Mandy VS Gaz is great. Heckapoo VS Demencia is brutal personally but I may lean toward Heckapoo.
Even though Hilda got the boot I'm still happy she made it as far as she did. Good luck to your favourites friends and try to have fun with the competition.
To be fair he path hasn't exactly pitted her against any heavy hitters. >Round 1 was against the face of one of the most hated reboots of the year. >Round 2 was against a cape character who's best known for getting slapped. >Round 3 is against a side character from a show who's ending pissed off all its fans. That said I'm happy she's made it this far and I'd like to see her make it up to face Raven at least.
Ethan Ortiz
>Azula is the last one of her team >Alex is the last TS spy RIP Spies. You lost the fight.
Ian Taylor
which means if you all dont kill OP this tournament can happen again, likely with SU on the banlist
Jordan Davis
Enjoy your loss user
Evan Ward
I gave up on the contest but I just watching over the discussions in these threads just to pass the time until Spooktober
Michael Williams
Post characters you would have voted for all the way to first place
Good, everyone should give up, it's obvious that stupid gem is gonna win, it's bullshit.
Aaron Morris
Y I K E S
Josiah Taylor
Just checked, she got 3rd, just behind Peridot. Fuck me two meme gems going up against each other would probably fuck Yea Forums up even more. People would be pissed about those finals.
Daniel Rogers
Toughest match of this round for me
Charles Evans
We all knew the fix was in from the beginning, fellow robofag. It's hard to win when 1/3 of a show's cast make up the roster. It's even more of a fix when they have a fotm.
>people on cartoon board like a cartoon more than your favorite cartoon >'BAN IT!'
Dylan Brooks
I honestly voted for Dr. Mrs. M. simply because women in Hugo Boss outfits are instant boner material for me. If Frankie ever wore a nazi outfit, that choice would have been a LOT harder.
There should really only be one pick from one series each in these competitions. All these SU characters is nonsense, pick the stretchy one you love so much and move on.
I wish she was my personal trainer who would flirt with me
Benjamin Hernandez
You're retarded. The Top 8 get banned that's how the rules work
Blake Rodriguez
The fact that she wasn't even nominated speaks volumes for her staying power.
>One per series This ends with either capefags dominating the brackets, or capefags seething even harder when they only get two characters in.
Daniel Morris
We know, but you can't tell Yea Forums that. Same for Avatar, btw.
Landon Brooks
I have full confidence in Shego making it into the Semi finals, beating both Peridot and Lapis.
Adam Powell
Retarded rules. Ban list should have never happened.
Levi Price
I like Pearl a lot, I like Peridot, and I like Lapis. Sue me. They’re cute.
John Thompson
>all this Spinel controversy so that no one notices the under-the-radar giants that are Frankie and Raven on the right side Only Azulafags stand a chance.
Carson Moore
>The fact that she wasn't even nominated speaks volumes for her staying power. She makes Yea Forums ass mad to this very day.
>implying any of them could have beaten Spinel at this time You're deluding yourself. Spinel's victory was certain due to how close the contest was to her movie.
Daniel Young
She deserves it over them.
James Campbell
Good thing we can do the elite8
Connor Peterson
The old school SUfags and the Spinel fanatics are mostly not the same crowd.
Carson Stewart
Hey cacodemon user defend this
Also grats OP your 2nd tournament was a goddam failure.
Only 4 characters can possibly make now to the top 8. There are plenty of SU characters that would have made it were it not for the limit. So no the whole show will not be on that banlist next year.
Dylan Rogers
>Gaz vs Mandy Actual pottery
Alexander Carter
I like it, it's a fun shake up. Only thing I'd change next time is the addition of a "new character clause" that prevents any character that's less than a month old by the start of nominations from participating. Saying that as someone who supports Spinel by the by, it just kind of makes sense and should help curb doomposting and asshurt.
Kayden Wright
>vote for XJ6 >she loses first round >There's no way Eve will make it through tot he finals It's too bad there's not more love for the tingirls of this tourney.
Josiah Myers
>FUCK ME, user! FUCK ME GOOD. AWW YEAH, FUCK THIS FUCKING PUSSY!
Characters from the same series maybe should have been seeded closer together.
Luke Foster
Garnet Amethyst and Jasper aren't nearly popular enough to make it far. They'd get in and lose pretty quickly. I personally would never vote for any of them
Jaxson Taylor
Falseflagging Russian hacker
Christian Morgan
Spinel hasn’t had a real match yet. Muriel was a meme, a very nice meme but a meme. Tink is too niche, we don’t have enough ladies here to have Tink win. Judy is furfag territory.
If spinel went against Kim or Starfire she’d get crushed.
Angel Allen
>Best Unironically the Spinelfags. If you look at the people supporting her a lot of them are pretty chill and just having a good time expressing their love for their favorite character. Maybe it's because they're winning but it's still a pretty positive crowd.
>Worst Worst would be the people who are voting for someone just because they hate the other choice. Muriel is a great character but the bitterness of the Murielfags was pathetic.
Jose Rogers
>mfw Azula is too obsessed with Steven's butthole to protect her own butthole
I'd let her go ballistic on my dick for as long as likes, I'd fuckin' take it, then after that, I'd dominate the fuck out of her. After that, we go to bed and have romantic cuddles.
Luke Rodriguez
>3 SU characters get banned from next year >Yea Forums calms the fuck down next time. I'm down for it.
Really wish XJ-6 could have made it farther. Would have supported her until she had to face down Sheila.
Luke Barnes
t. Spinelfag
Ian Ross
Perhaps next year we can do away with seeding and have nominees be placed by random draw. I feel like the seeding does nothing but ensure characters like Spinel get easy matches right away.
Matthew Hughes
>Spinel's victory was certain due to how close the contest was to her movie. Not the user you're replying to, but wouldn't that be enough for Spinel to have had to sit this one out? Call me what you want, but it DOES seem a little unfair, and I'm a Spinelfag.
Adam Robinson
this is actually a good test to see if mods are paying any attention at all to this shitfest
Kevin Brown
>Azula taking out her frustration on Steven by tearing his ass apart then cuddling him to feel better.
Xavier Myers
>Muriel is a great character but the bitterness of the Murielfags was pathetic. There was no bitterness from the Murielfags They weren't Murielfags. They were, and are, people rallying behind anything they can against Spinel. This reflects on no one but antiSpinelfags
Brody Williams
>next year SU fags become fags of an even more deplorable show and nominate 4 candidates It never ends
Brandon Gonzalez
I like spinel, but a man is ready to lop his fucking pinkie off for her. So I'm gonna say spinel
Bentley Moore
You do know that there are just as many redditspamable SU characters not even in this list, right?
Joseph Carter
I want Spinelfags to stay just because we've gotten some really good oc out of them. You want me to vote for the rabbit? Give me things like this.
>next year SU fags become fags of an even more deplorable show Don't worry user, I'm sure they'll never allow horses on Yea Forums ever again.
tbqh the major ones that Yea Forums likes are already up there, and worst case scenario only one of them isn't getting banned next year. You're crazy if you think Amy or Garnet can pull something like Spinel has.
Justin Rodriguez
Any character that puts an end to Spinel will instantly get drawfag fame. It’s almost a bigger victory than 1st place. The SU killer.
Benjamin Hill
>make this contest when there is a fever for an FOTM Is OP retarded or a Spinelfag?
Parker Kelly
Like you wouldn't vote.
Thomas Hall
Worst are easily SU fags, Azula fags are bad but it's because they are interacting with SU fags.
Emmychads are the best even though hardly anyone know who she is. Come 2023, she'll have a show and she'll sweep the competition.
Both. When given common sense solutions he rejected them to encourage people to only vote for Spinel and leave the other ballots blank.
Gavin Smith
Yes and yes.
Jordan Garcia
>Peridot Pretty much appeals to everything I like short, nerd, autistic, cute and all around one of my favorites. >EVE WALL-E is just a really wholesome and nice film and EVE's relationship with WALL-E is just adorable.
Sure, I guess that's true but they sure were pretending hard to be Murielfags
Jeremiah Rivera
SU, their fan base and the reaction against them reminds me a lot of a certain show about horses... I wish SU could get its own containment board too, or maybe they could share.
Josiah Walker
People keep pointing out the timing but isn't OP just doing it by the same schedule as last year's?
Why yes Spinelfags are the best >proxyfags >have a discord >have a sonichu tier character "" oc"" >Its the FOTM But who cares about this injustice when they make good oc XD
Michael Rivera
All this is showing is what terrible taste everyone here has.
>Maybe it's because they're winning but it's still a pretty positive crowd. No shit it’s because they’re winning. It’s easy to stay positive when your side is pretty much guaranteed to win
Jayden Davis
>best controversial but I have to say spinelfags, simply because of all the oc they're bringing to the threads. Also shoutout to coralinefags and dr mrs monarchfags for supporting generally underrated picks to get this far. >worst don't think there is a worst, unless you can count cancelfags as a 'fanbase' as well
Jordan Wilson
She did. You all assumed she didn't and didn't vote for her. Ctrl+f my ass. She was let down
I'm neutral to this situation, it can be a possibility that's it's just anyone can go and say "haha I went to reddit and asked for help bros, am I based?" just to rile up anons in Yea Forums. That aside, even if it were really happening there really shouldn't be so much chaos in the tournament threads to the point that OP has to back off and shouldn't really be talked about. In my honest opinion I don't think bringing up this topic would really do anything since the end result remains the same whatever the result is. Other than that, I rather talk about various characters in the tournament then the theory of "What if this user said this? What if it's true?" or similar sentences cause I can't really say anything unless there's solid evidence of such happenings
Eve being this high is a surprise. But it's telling how none of the characters who are still in the contest are getting art or being celebrated except for Spinel. It's kind of sad.
Joshua Rodriguez
>same falseflagging retarded image God, antispinel fags are so stupid.
Mason Gutierrez
>best show of the decade - OTGW >best cartoon girl of 2019 - Spinel Jesuchrist the drop in quality
Austin Harris
I knew about that, I was asking for proof that the Muriel love was spitevoting. I saw lots of love for her.
Xavier Hall
What makes them look real good is the contrast with the antiSUs. The way people are acting you'd think they expected Tink or Betty to win.
given the lack of any real evidence (i.e. links/screencaps of spinelfag posts outside of Yea Forums), I'm inclined to believe it to be a complete fabrication.
I'm working on a Tak drawing based on DOOM, I'll post progress eventually, I'm not very good at art, but drawfags don't seem to be doing much for whatever reason, so I'll put my hat in the ring
Has anyone tried tweeting this to jhonen vasquez to see his reaction?
Angel Price
Hopps must defeat the pink menace for the good of mankind.
Gabriel Adams
and everyone says Spinelfags are cheaters...
Evan Rodriguez
have you actually seen the SU movie? a lot of people that don't watch the show but saw the movie like spinel. She's a charming character tbqh, and I can see why she's doing so well in the poll.
Aiden Gomez
>wholesome moments like these will never happen due to yurishit
>drawfags don't seem to be doing much for whatever reason There's a reason, user. There's a reason.
Kayden Foster
>we made a big deal about SU, can't you see how much better this would be without SU and the fuss we made over it Keep it up bro
Owen Richardson
Why do I get the feeling that Takfags are just people who recently just binged watched Invader Zim in light of the movie? She was in ONE episode and frankly isn't that interesting
Elijah Adams
SU characters are not the problem, the problem is we have a contestand that is highly popular than the other at this time (fotm status) so is no shit everyone is going to vote her and meme her. If this was made when Denencia was the fotm she should won also. Shit is uust not fair
Andrew Martinez
I am OK.
Adam Morgan
it was literally two threads ago
Alexander Gomez
WE WILL!
Brayden Williams
Unfortunately some people can't let their anger-enhanced drugs away, otherwise their shitposting has no meaning. Just look at what happened with people really fucking wanting BotW to fail, from that point plenty of shitposters on Yea Forums have become literal broken shells of their former selves.
>no upvotes >post deleted by reddit staff >account made yesterday Nothing suspicious about this, definitely a real person and not a throwaway account made to create false evidence for your baseless claims Even if this wasn't obviously manufactured, this is far from rigging and wouldn't have driven 1 vote much less 100
Maybe Yea Forums should just chill out and not throw tantrums about this show
Kevin Cook
what the fuck bro rabbits should be this sexy
Leo Murphy
I feel like it's more that people just like Zim again because of the movie after years of writing it off as cringy, mostly because they used to be cringy fans as well. Tak isn't as obsessed over as Red & Purple, but I think it's genuine.
Wall-E is unironically Pixar's best film. The atmosphere is absolutely perfect, just be warned that it goes from an emotionally driven, mostly silent love story in part I to a pretty blatant social commentary in the second act. Both parts are great, but it might be a little jarring.
Jason Rivera
God what is this the fucking Cold War again?
Asher Walker
>Azula buying Steven lingerie for her to tear off him.
Juan Cox
Well that reason is bullcrap, these threads are fun
Not them but I don't think a throwaway account should count towards falseflagging or not. It's safer to make a throwaway anyways so people don't dox you
>What is wrong with you :( I'm sorry my Queen, but you're not strong enough to beat the gems. I betrayed my faith for the defeat of my enemies
David Myers
Don't worry Entraptafags I got this I just wired in a call to the IDF and they're reaching out to their friends in the media, there's going to be TV ads running for Entrapta by next thursday until the end of Ms. Yea Forums 2020. She'll win next year for sure.
Just called environmentalist child prophet Greta Thunberg. She's agreed to give a speech at the UN about how voting Judy is the only way to save the world from the climate apocalypse.
I'm glad Emmy didn't become a part of this. Everything people can complain about regarding Spinel would have also applied to her. she's mercifully spared from the drama.
Friendly reminder that after her abandonment issues and PTSD heal up Spinel will want to be good friends with all of the other girls, Judy, Tink, and Muriel included, in either her happy or edgy form depending on the character.
>Calls in furfags >wtf what are furfags doing shitting up the thread??? So are anti-voters just completely braindead or...
Robert Adams
>finn growing up under marceline's guidence, organically changing from friends to lovers instead of something barely addressed being shoved in near the show's finale for nebulous reasons >a fresh start with two healthy people who love each other instead of trying to save something that was toxic from the start >all the story and character development that could come from them navigating their vast age difference and states of mortality >moving past that and deciding that their love is more important >"Muh self insert" Make it finn and Marshall Lee for all I fucking care, they have unbelievably good chemistry in any form
AGREED! SPINEL IS THE MESSIAH! YOU'RE ALL NON BELIEVERS!
Connor Long
How did a deleted post with no upvotes generate the huge lead Spinel has had in her matchups Why was the post made in the middle of round two when the calls of rigging starting at the results of qualifiers If Reddit deletes post advertising the tournament how the fuck would reddit every be a tool for generating SU votes in the tournament Why would someone worry about being doxxed when they aren't hiding the fact that "they're an SU fan"
Where is this large SU discord he keeps claiming is advertising the tournament
Charles Flores
Mods are obviously disgusting Spinel fags.
Sebastian Ramirez
I hope for nothing but to see Monarch and Martian Queen go to fucking war.
I still can't wrap my head around why someone would CHOOSE to go to /trash/.
Jose Richardson
>all the Spinel porn filenames are copied directly from whatever site he's getting them from >Not images he already had saved Wow. This is legitimate and real
Josiah Lee
Stop rigging votes
Sebastian Wilson
SPINELCHADS!!! Ready you're shitposts and vote harder. FOR TONIGHT WE POST IN HELL!!!!!!
>Judyfags are posting SFW >Meanwhile Spinelfags are bombarding the area with NSFW You Spinel fucks are going to get us nuked
Luke Morgan
Yes ma'am!
Blake Wright
>the absolute sate of this shitfest Yeah this aint the true Yea Forums Compare this one with last year, at least we had tons of oc and fun with everyone pick and not just "muh fotm"
Anyway i did some Spinel art but enought is enought. I will waste my shitty art in Yea Forums instead.
Zachary Scott
post proof
Joseph Thomas
im calling the pornposting a false flag attack
Anthony Brooks
HEIL!
Ryder Rogers
If only my waifu would have qualified, she would have beat spinel round 1
>Meanwhile Spinelfags are bombarding the area with NSFW Any NSFW artwork that gets posted in these threads is at least a little more likely to be posted by a character's detractors to piss people off than by their fans. Probably way more likely detractors actually.
Nolan Adams
Yes. We can not improve our fates through vile bantz. Our destiny is, and always will be, in the hands of the poll. If I fail you must press on. Win what I can not for those that can not.
>Tfw we can't enjoy this anymore because SU was included, thus doomed to autistic arguments Only hurts a little
Camden Cox
Oh yes, of course. Everything they do is a false flag. Spinelfags do nothing wrong I hope you fucks get nuked to Earth 3
Ryder Phillips
we are probably more likely to be nuked in this thread, my friend
Aiden Gomez
This is correct, yes. You'd be a fool to take anything posted here seriously It's one autist causing all the problems. This board needs fucking post ids
People here know this is a blue board. Porn is nearly always trolling. Usually to get mods to nuke a thread or make people angry. Only very rarely is someone just so in love with a single shitty porn artwork that they don't mind the ban, it's mostly trolls. I'm going to assume porn of any character is people who hate them in these threads no matter which character it is. In fact I will start voting for all of the characters getting porn false flagged because why not, I don't give that much of a shit.
Jayden Phillips
That looks terrible.
Owen Diaz
thats one dumb thing, its just the kneejerk reaction of idiots seeing a char they don't like having more votes.
Adorabat says you arguing autists are being stupid and should stop it right now. She just wants people to have fun and support their waifus. Celebrate your own waifus, don't demonize others.
it's not SU itself, there's no problem with peridot, lapis, or pearl being in there. It's about Spinel, and a ridiculous tug of war between the pros and antis as to who can shit up the thread the most to entice people to vote for/against her out of spite.
duh, he's literally just getting them straight off of rule34 and reposting it here. I wonder why someone would just want to post porn without caring about the quality in a thread where an autist is ravenously trying to discredit her inclusion in the tournament.
Voting for gems means your voting for a funner future! All my votes went to Pearl, Peridot, Lapis, and Spinel! Of course I voted for every other category too so that I'm doing my part to vote for everyone. But I hope the gems win!
>There is no Spinel controversy What an enchanting world you live in.
Bentley Reyes
>the original 8 winners were all from different shows and franchises(except HQ and Starfire) >This year three gems are likely to be a in the top 8 together
Chase James
WHOA! THAT'S PORN! BAN! MODS! OH GOD I'M HAVING A PANIC ATTACK!
And now you have your autistic army of incels ruinning these threads, good job cumbrain.
Robert Taylor
A waifu poll on Yea Forums isn't going to be fair or reflect common tastes (I don't think most people even remember MLAATR). People should just vote for who they like most and have fun. The bitching about SU existing isn't even entertaining. The Azulafags and IZfags are fun so far and the Rapunzelfags are bros. More of that.
Luke Cruz
your autistic conspiracies aren't controversy, they're nuisances
Yep that autistic army of incels that hate the character are doing exactly that.
glad we agree.
Connor Perry
I WONDER WHY SOMEONE WOULD PRETEND TO BE THEIR OPPOSITION TO CREATE A NEGATIVE IMPRESSION OF THEM ON AN ANONYMOUS IMAGEBOARD WHERE THAT'S REALLY FUCKING EASY TO DO
>Is this how it always goes down? This hasn't happened in either of the prior tournaments This is just ugly shit from both sides
Jack Ortiz
You like the boogeyman show and that means you aren't allowed to take part in the board festivities or else all the autist will spew their noxious fumes at you until you get tired and go somewhere else
but they're fucking stupid and shitting up the channel thread too so there is nowhere else to go
Yeah, what's wrong with a fotm being thrown in so it makes the competition one sided? Man, I just can't figure it out. Makes me have the big think and all that.
>he got a fucking notification for a reply and was there for it right when it was posted absolutely amazing
Sebastian Perez
Best solution to next year is just not have SU involved at all. It's not fair but the anti-SU people really are this bad
Ryder Ross
FUCKING SU FAAAAGS. I'LL NEVER FORGIVE YOU FOR THIS. SU SHOULD BE FOREVER BANNED FROM THE COMPETITION TO PREVENT THIS NONSENSE FROM HAPPENING EVER AGAIN.
Unless SU suddenly introduces a new waifu introduced that's this crazy in a fanbase then it will be perfectly fine even with SU in It was in last year and everything went smooth
Noah Flores
>i made a post one reddit with my alternate why wont you accept this as real evidence Amazing
Ethan Flores
Maybe, there's still a chance you might get ahead. >mfw a friendship has been establish among the misty fires of war.
Pearl fan here The problem is not SU perse but a one side competition is just not fair and fun for everyone. I blame Spinelfags because her character still fresh in the minds of people.
Okay listen here OP don't cancel if Gems are winning, but if there are no gems left you need to cancel. This whole thing has been rigged against us. Anti SU fags have been cheating and conducting falseflags against innocent gems just because they hate us. It's discrimination and if you let it happen you're a racist.
That's a terrible idea. That's not spite, that's validation. The way to spite the people who have been annoying me is to keep letting this tournament more forward until the end.
Gavin Gutierrez
but i want EVE to win
Austin Cruz
Judy Hopps
Easton Howard
Frankie
Kayden Flores
I think it's time to stop arguing with falseflagging retards. Nothing they do can affect the results of this tournament in either direction so. Enjoy the porn and they post and talk about why you love your waifu
All of these fucking characters have been FOTM at one point or memes or waifufag fodder, that's not the point. This is a retarded on purpose waifufag popularity competition, not "what was the most expertly done fictional character" for fuck's sake. There are always going to be some characters who have an autistic fanbase here or who just got new content and have an "unfair" advantage whatever the fuck that means.
Calm the fuck down. These are cartoon characters. This is just for lulz. Post funny shit or cute fan art instead of crying and whining jesus fuck.
Brody Mitchell
Cringe. Almost as bad as the Summer/Jerry poster.
James Reed
Another SU character. Probably Peridot or Pearl. Talk about a lackluster finale.
Bentley Scott
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks about their resemblance
Matthew Bennett
Once again you don't have to view her as a waifu. It's which character you ultimately like more.
Brandon Powell
>The only way to get back at people is to ruin the board more with extremely low-quality posts
Carson Thompson
>is to keep letting this tournament more forward until the end. Make them suffer, OP.
Aaron Wood
Why is Azula attractive anyway?
Jacob Myers
But it's a clear crossdresser
Levi Torres
And then if Spinel wins we know you rigged it faggot. I bet it was you that fucking posted it to discord and reddit and all that.
Camden Long
This is why we should've put a limit on the characters from each show
Brandon Garcia
HAHAHAHAHAHAH OH MY GOD THAT IS FUNNY!
Caleb Wright
Holy fuck you faggots keep intentionally missing the point
Man you're just as bad as these autists. What a let down.
Luke Phillips
pls no interference, really curious on how this will ride out. Maybe it'd be a surprise.
Ryder Flores
cute dabbing perkele
Elijah Long
OP did. SU would have had TEN characters if the 5-character limit hadn't been in place. And you bet your ass there would be ten from each of DC and Marvel as well.
>op is rigging the tourney >reddit is rigging the tourney >a large SU discord is rigging the tourney >SU the Movie's position on The Gregorian Calendar had rigged the tournament >the previous top 8 not being in rigged the tourney How else can we rig this tournament Yea Forums? Who else is rigging the tourney Yea Forums
The funny thing about this pathetic straw-grapsing is that not only have I not seen the SU movie, I don't even know how to pronounce her name (apparently it's not Spine-l?).
Samuel Nelson
Donald Trump using his orange man powers
Henry Williams
what are you on about, he literally said he was letting it go on.
Why the fuck would OP not use a trip for an event he's running?
Wyatt Myers
any proof?
Colton Ross
Don't worry about it. I hate Spinel, but I'm done complaining about it. I'm here until the ride ends
Jace Long
I think we all know who's responsible for "rigging" this shit
Sure dude then just run and unfair and no fun tournament that could be something special instead of just being a dumbster fire where the only thing that matters is Spinel vs and fuci the rest. More power to you
I read on Buzzfeed that Trump and Russia are using Cambridge Analytica to rig the tourney by mass voting for Spinel. It's definitely true. I wrote the Buzzfeed article and then I read the article I wrote. That's how I know it's true. I'm going to write an article about how the NWO and purple-haired SJW lizard women are behind the tourney and read it then I'll know that is also true but I read it in an article.
Adrian Lopez
I don't use Reddit, but isn't this icon used to identify your own posts?
Didn't you say you were going to keep quiet earlier? I was on your side a while ago, but now it seems like you're stirring the pot at this point. Just saiyan, man.
IT IS ABOUT THE TOURNAMENT YOU FUCKING FAGGOT. The issue is that some faggots still and still want to ban SU, doing more than infantile attempts to cause problems in this tournament. Those guys (and you) are just even more pathetic than the Host for Mr. Yea Forums at this point.
Regardless or not If the Reddit post is a falseflagger we at least know there are SOME redditors voting on this No it's to show OPs posts t.watchpeopledieinside suberedditor
Jack Collins
Men's tournament has a different one for this next one
Luis Sanchez
Goddamn, why the fuck do you keep falling for the bait, you dehydrated diabetic? Fucking carcinoma victim. Hemophiliac victim.
Mason Watson
Gookmoot is in on this and fucking with the votes.
Henry Rodriguez
I don't see how a change in management would help.
Bentley Evans
>OP going full tripfag powertrip Oh God. This is going to be an event spoken in whispers isn’t it? The most fucked Yea Forums event since Korra.
Robert Campbell
He rigged it to make Captain America win
Noah Flores
Legitimate question OP, but despite how really... terrible the posters in these threads have been (and how terrible I was in toon of the 10s (long long holiday fag)) I've really enjoyed the tournaments you've run and how unwaveringly dedicated you are to letting them run their course
If that OP bans Steg then that tournament will already be off to a better start
Jaxon Torres
>stupid opinion >worst ship Pottery
Sebastian Brooks
Was the Frizz ever nominated?
Colton Martinez
I never seen an OP able to control Yea Forumstism
Wyatt Gray
>110120521 Better yet, you should fuck off showing you only are here to shitpost. I-i'm sorry user, I just really keep getting upset at how some idiots look like thermy're posting seriously.
I FUCKING HATE IT I HATE OP I HATE SPINEL I HATE SU FAGS I HATE REDDIT I HATE FALSE FLAGS I HATE FURRIES I HATE PORN
but please come back
Josiah Thompson
The only thing that would help is banning Spinel. Having a FOTM that's two weeks after it's premire it's obvious whose going to win and how one sided it's going to be. Not even the other gems just this chick
Jayden Lewis
They were better when Deetposters were here. Unfortunately, the Deet was beat.
Owen Ortiz
It's a different user that was already a trip when he was rigging it I thought she was in last year, don't know if she got nominated but she didn't get in if she was
Daniel Lopez
last year
Dominic Moore
Sure. Unless something is popular next September, then it will be indefinitely delayed until the nearest convenient time when nothing is currently popular on Yea Forums.
Oliver Gutierrez
Steg won't cause issues to this degree How many Stegposts do you see?
Austin Sullivan
But more than a month will have passed by the time Mr. Yea Forums starts.
These threads are just a collection of Azula and Spinel fanart at this point.
Nathaniel Scott
We could've had some comfy times if you guys just voted for Deet. But noooooo, you chose the way of anger.
Asher Campbell
There's still nominees out there that can go toe to toe with Spinel, but yes being FOTM will get her into the top 8 at least.
Liam Collins
I still say you fuck off
Brody Bell
Thank you OP. Sorry about all the porn that was in your thread.
Nathan Stewart
It's not really about the shitposting as much as he's the FOTM for the men's side of things
Tyler Ramirez
Am I the only one who noticed that the posts of the user claiming that Spinelfags are cheating were deleted along with all the porn spam? It's as if he was the one who spammed the thread with porn to falseflag as Spinelfags until a mod appeared and deleted all his posts (including the ones ranting about Spinel and SU).
I dunno, man. I mean, who would've thought that fotm would've ruined the tourney? Really gets those peanuts a-buttering and all that jazz.
Henry Cox
So, what? Don't allow any nominations for characters premiering within the last three months?
Evan Perez
Sorry about any of the people who have been annoying in the threads. I've been doing my best to try keep things more wholesome around here.
Camden Cox
On the bright side, Spooktober is in a couple of days, lads.
Dominic Scott
Nowhere near these gems, he probably wouldn't even make 1st seed I'm frankly more worried about sneed then someone with moderate popularity
Ayden Bennett
Maybe if people didn't get baited by the same 4-5 retarded cumguzzling turboniggers and started posting more fanart of their waifus, the landscape would be different. But these fucking apes can't control themselves and learn not to respond. Now watch as the aforementioned turboniggers will reply to me, screeching about how their bait is not bait. And you know what I'm gonna do? Not reply to them. See if you can follow.
We're at over 900 votes btw, none of this has slowed the momentum.
Levi Gonzalez
But what's wrong with Ty Lee? How come she can't be the winner over Azula? Seriously.
Jayden White
I care user. I'm silent, but I always vote for them. I'm just vocal for my primary nominee, Azula. Just because we're silent doesn't mean we don't stand behind your choices.
Andrew Stewart
I'd honestly give it a month. Spinel has been a thing for two weeks
Logan Ramirez
Yea Forums will lose their mind if anyone other than Spinel or Azula wins this
Carson Russell
All this shit posting reminds me of ponies. In the sense that ponies were used to troll, because you could post a single pony and derail an entire thread. There was a single pony general on Yea Forums that even used a marker image and an external site so people could find the general, but because of the people using ponies to troll the entire series was banished to its own board.
The people going to other sites, reddit, tumblr, whatever, to get votes for SU character are asses, but they are partly asses because of the way he anti-SU posters are reacting. You are jackasses because you let yourself over-react to a specific series and throw a shit fit.
Jose Jones
About 12 days friend.
Julian Torres
Vote Tak and I'll post nudes of Zim
Parker Fisher
Hype
Andrew Price
Oh you mean the annual Ghoul School general that serve only to alienate drawfags threads? Because we lost both Plague and Henry to them
Noah Moore
nigga you're the only stupid one here.
Henry Roberts
Because she's losing to Coraline.
What are the margins of the closest and farthest apart matchups?
Jaxon Hughes
Nothing wrong with Tylee. Gotta have her win so they can potentially face off.
Why would this slow down the votes when half of them are people multi-accounting?
Asher Gomez
Woo, can't wait for that to be ruined too. give me some hope, user
Camden Walker
There will always be something trending OP. Just put up a "FotM Clause" that restricts any characters that are less than a month old, should curb some of the shitposting.
Carter Campbell
It's probably one faggot who was larping as every side
Angel Collins
If Azula wins, this will all be worth it
Jacob Stewart
OP of this thread here. Will you make the next thread or do you want me to continue making them for you until the next round?
Right now, 16 votes. Sorry that's not as exciting as past rounds.
Eli Long
>The people going to other sites, reddit, tumblr, whatever, to get votes for SU character are asses They don't exist. Pay more attention
Connor Davis
>Because she's losing to Coraline user...
Carson Barnes
You had to know this would happen. Don't act like it's our fault. But what else should I expect from some punk fresh out of high school.
David Murphy
>indefinitely delayed until the nearest convenient time when nothing is currently popular on Yea Forums. so you are saying you fucked up this time then Because allowing a FOTM is a retard idea >but other ones are also FOTM!! No shit but Spinel is the current one
Only for that OP you are a goodaam faggot , hope next year is better :)
Honestly I think the Spite-voted are hurting this just as much as all the shitposting. This is no longer about wanting a waifu to win but picking whoever will pissnthe most number of people off
Jayden Ward
>"...Ever since they closed the plant, it was either this or the army. All i got is a GED. The monarch took us in though. Gave us pretty good pay all things considered. & we get these pretty cool dart guns. If it weren't for Samson trying to kill us all the time, this would be a pretty easy gig. We got our own personal army here. Now the monarch is freaking out over some popularity contest that Dr. Misses The Monarch is in & is having everyone vote for her... Oh uh right, by the way uh... Make sure you vote for her in it when you get a chance. 21 says he'll spring for a keg party if the misses wins. Says he was able to talk the monarch into it. It's pretty sweet. I already voted but apperently it's getting pretty heated I guess..."
Except they do and saying FALSEFLAG doesn't hide the fact that there's actual redditors voting in this now
Lincoln Turner
If he had simply acknowledged it was a problem and made efforts to at least promote fair play - making people vote for every round - this would be less controversial. But he refused to see reason.
Camden Bennett
Were there these many votes last year OP?
Kevin Parker
I can handle next thread.
I'm willing to do that, honestly. Thank you for being reasonable. My issue is that it's not so cut and dry. Sometimes a show starts a few months ago then takes time to pick up steam until it's the most talked about thing. Then you've got characters like BW who technically haven't debuted at all yet. It's just something I'd have to make the call of myself, and before now I've tried to avoid situations that call for that because I want to be seen as impartial.
Luis Sullivan
The furthest apart is 16 votes? Wow
Blake Hughes
For me it's still about voting for my waifu. I'm not gonna let some barely-human troglodytes ruin that for me.
Noah Harris
1 redditor. Invited by a guy obviously looking to make a screencap to post here. But sure, keep mindlessly believing everything you see on the internet
Nathan Lewis
++Scarecrow don't read this++
I use 6e and have a ton of 5e pdfs, so I steal/translate a lot. I could use some assistance. I'm debating which batch of bad dudes to throw at my party next; The Texas Raiders, Joe Exotic and the Exoticists, or Impact Zero. I can give detailed rundowns on the teams if needed. -Raiders: Local villain group, kind of like the Rouges. More together for survival, most were sprung out of a transport shortly after getting a superjuice injection. They work for a wizard who helped them escape, and he works for shapeshifting reptilians who try to control the world from the shadows. What the Reptilians want could be really strange and esoteric, so I can use these guys for almost anything. -Exoticists: Kinda goofy, but a bunch of Animal dudes. Like, Bebop and Rocksteady types. Joe fancies himself a scientist and has been getting 'designer' super juice for use on his employees. One of my players turned him down for a job so Joe's going to be the pettiest man and sic his guys on him (after he fires them and gives them a great severance package and some "advice"). I can assemble a group them into a fake team or gang to throw at my players, it has to be a cover since "Joe Exotic" is a brand and he'd try to keep this kind of thing on the down low. Cover stories like "I have the power of Anubus" but really he's just a dog guy. -Impact Zero: A more serious group moving in from the east coast. A much more mercenary outfit than the other two mostly made up of bricks. They're looking to make a name for themselves in a new territory and it's where my PCs have jurisdiction. One of them has a chip on her shoulder about the government and power suits, one is James Bond if he were also the Iron Fist, one used to be a henchman and lucked out during an accident, and one used to be a pro wrestler before the "sport" got hit with the McGuire law (no supers in sports, no tolerance policy). Basically a goon squad for hire.
Here, super generator for fun.
Nolan Brooks
Spinelchads, this is our finest hour. We will win the day and take this tournament by storm. And we will solidify her place in Yea Forums history. For the next tournament we must ensure that Steg or Steven becomes Mr. Yea Forums
Cameron Martin
Sorry, but OP's head already recovered from the explosion.
Connor Edwards
>Unless something is popular next September, then it will be indefinitely delayed until the nearest convenient time when nothing is currently popular on Yea Forums.
holy shit, haha OP you're amazing
Cameron Nguyen
I wanna roll to attack the Scarecrow with my +2 mace.
Andrew Hughes
>/Tg/ ?
Aiden Martinez
Spreadsheets pls
Matthew Morales
Nowhere near close
Isaiah King
Invited my mom to fuck a black guy
Adrian Stewart
>t. Spinelposter
Jordan Diaz
>OP trying to fix his fuck ups
Lol
Carson Turner
Alright, I'll go ahead and do those.
Andrew Butler
Honestly, the Azula-fags are at least having fun and aren't disturbing things that badly. Hell, I got some good chuckles out of the Seething Kara-fags and the how the once wholesome Steven X Azula ship has become a femdom relationship with him being humiliated and pegged.
Carson Fisher
I also voted for Spinel
Jeremiah Rogers
I'm fine with a no FOTM clause for new characters. But people are shitting their tits off at old SU characters like Peridot, Lapis, and Pearl. There is no reason characters from whatever is coming out next year should be excluded because they got new content near the date of the tourney.
Easton Russell
It's a popularity contest (and let's be honest just an autism contest for who will keep voting against characters they hate or for their waifus). Any character who has had content in the past year has an unfair advantage. And unfair disadvantage from the backlashers too. Unless you instituted a blanket 5-year waiting period to every tourney this makes no sense.
Caleb Hughes
>OP trying to fix stuff he deliberately caused and wanted
William Mitchell
Amazingly dense.
Wyatt Taylor
OP hasn't fucked up. He's pacifying whiners like you.
Isaac Brown
I'd say the Spinel drama is being mostly caused by people overestimating Spinel's popularity. If she's consistently going 60/40 every round I can imagine someone like Azula potentially beating her and I'm saying that as someone who has voted for Spinel every round. If it would stop these retards from shitting up the threads next year then I guess do what you feel is right.
>Sometimes a show starts a few months ago then takes time to pick up steam until it's the most talked about thing I guess that it is. Steven Universe gets a big movie and that would give every character on that show a popularity boost, not just towards Spinel. But what can you do about that? No easy solutions
Connor Howard
Hardly anybody is really frothing at the mouth over SU characters. Pearl killed my Della Duck but I didn't throw a shitfit but I take extreme umbrage with Spinel.
Jack Long
Jenny had no new content
Jaxson Stewart
The Steven/Azula ship is the only thing that's gone right with that show in these threads
Owen Bennett
But can Spinel crack the elite8m
Ayden Bennett
>no fotm >no banlist >same series characters seeded together to eliminate show loyalty Fixed 2020.
Jack Jackson
XJ-9 and Johnny Bravo won last year and their shows ended ages ago. Your point is invalid.
Sebastian Wilson
how is this related to Yea Forums
Hudson Robinson
Vote for Eris!
Lucas Russell
>>same series characters seeded together to eliminate show loyalty you can't do this realistically
Owen Martinez
We'll never know, because OP is a fag.
Connor Howard
It still fucking hurts
Easton Walker
>But people are shitting their tits off at old SU characters like Peridot, Lapis, and Pearl. NO ONE IS DOING THAT RETARDO
Noah Morgan
So why are we getting a no FOTM rule again?
just run your own fucking elite 8 tourney holy shit.
Jason Williams
Why
Ian Anderson
It's beautiful. I'll actually vote for Steven if that means I get to see the picture of Azula pegging Steven in front the whole Mr and Miss Yea Forums contestants and judges.
Nolan Brown
What? Why?
Easton Gonzalez
This. At this point it might be worth it to just make this stupid drama not happen again, but it feels gross giving the people who've shit up the tournament what they want.
Austin King
Are you dumb or just stupid?
Henry Ramirez
She isn't even a bender. Well, of the elements that is.
Nathaniel Edwards
No. She took out the weebshit I voted for, so it's my duty to vote against her now.
Jacob Scott
Because there were no FOTMs last time the contest happened.
Hunter Allen
>shitting their tits off at old SU characters like Peridot, Lapis, and Pearl. Nope. Just Spinel.
Michael Kelly
the numbers wouldn't match up
Isaac Taylor
YES
Connor Evans
Not just a pants bender, but a chi-blocker too. That's some dangerous stuff, user.
Jayden Russell
Limit it to 4 or 6
Landon Sullivan
limit per show to 3
Ian Bailey
Absolutely nothing. I just love posting Jahy.
Joseph Johnson
All you need is a rule stating a character has to be at least 3 months old
Nathan Kelly
>apparently it's not Spine-l what?
Isaac Cruz
I was thinking more along the lines of her somehow contorting her spine in a way to bend her pussy right to you.
Oliver Price
Some FOTM are old though
Jayden Butler
The banlist is staying. Unless you want the same characters winning every year this is how it is. You'll get whatever waifu you're upset about back next year.
Hudson Taylor
Maybe /aco/ would be interested in that
Nolan Rivera
I think he meant Spinal. Like Spinal Tap.
Caleb Sullivan
Look, my pants just came flying off. I think that's pants bending right there, user.
Dylan Moore
Can't do anything about them
Carson Long
What does Spinel sound like?
Caleb Brooks
Lieutenant Fox Vixen didn't make it past qualifiers. Leggy Lamb died in the first round. Old FOTMs are old news.
Leo Sullivan
one of you guys talks about this in a previous thread
Nathaniel Barnes
I already asked them for a picture of Azula laughing and pegging a crying Steven, but didn't ask about the contestants or judges because I don't know if Azula will win or not. I'm hoping, but shit's going to get tough soon.
Hudson Campbell
>Cookie dough based >Staying quiet has made me miserable. I'm done just sitting and watching people post stupid shit. A bit cringe.
Ayden Hall
Are you purposely missing the point of the FOTM complaint or what
Nicholas Rodriguez
fotm
Nathan Sanchez
My waifu isn’t in the banlist. I want my wife to have a chance to actually win. You have no basis for believing it’ll be the same. 2020 will not be a copy of 2018.
Adam Watson
No i was surprised that Spinel was not pronounced, "Spine-el
Luke White
Yes, Jenny won't win again.
Kayden Mitchell
Lurk more.
Justin Nguyen
>The banlist is staying. Unless you don't want SU characters to win Oh, okay.
Aaron Young
OP didn't fuck up he just didn't expect so many people to lose there minds at a character. If anti-Spinelfags had just shut the fuck up the threads would have been fine, but they shit up every single thread with their salt.