Who's suffered more, Hulk or Spider-Man?

Between Spidey and Hulk I’d say Hulk. Someone else is say Wolverine

Based Johnny Blaze. Doesn’t get the respect he deserves.

>Then your wife cheats on you. Your son hates you.
When?

So has Spider-Ham’s Peter Porker

how old is BB even supposed to be? his son is at least, what, 20? we never see him without a cowl except in secret wars iirc, but that's an AU

Tigra
>Husband murdered
>Become superhero
>Get murdered herself
>Brought back by mentor as a cat person
>Mentor murdered.
>Get beat up, have to be saved by Red Wolf
>Gets beaten, mind-controlled, or otherwise humiliated by Kraven on more than one occasion.
>Joins the West Coast Avengers
>oh wait, her mentor brought her back wrong and her cat part is out of whack
>Sex drive amped up and she jumps most men she sees.
>Ends up being collared and made a pet by Molecule Man and Graviton on different occasions.
>Forced to admit she likes it.
>To solve her cat problems she travels to hell to meet with magical cat people who give her a tail.
>Oh wait, her cat part is now more out of whack and she goes completely feral.
>Hank Pym shrinks her down and puts her in a hamster habitat.
>Everyone forgets about her.
>She escapes as a tiny feral cat person and gets mauled by a dog
>Crazy cat woman takes her in thinking she's a real cat.
>Agatha Harkness fixes her
>Quits the Avengers because she sucks
>Goes to Australia to be the defender of the Outback
>Returns home shortly after her first adventure there. No one speaks of it again.
>She gets beaten and forced to beg for mercy by The Hood on tape, which is released to the public
>Gets seduced by a skrull posing as Hank Pym and has a skrull-pym-baby.
>Teaches at Avengers Academy
>Most of her students die at the hands of Arcade.
>Captured and made into a giant by BRODOK
>Has to be saved by the New West Coast Avengers

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Old enough to hang out with the Eternals in the 80's.

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Peter have dead parents. A dead uncle whose death he could had prevented. A dead girlfriend. A kidnapped infant daughter that was never found and presumed dead. Was implied to have been sexually assaulted by an old man as a kid. Is sexually assaulted by another old man as an adult. Said old man also used his genetic material from the sexual assault to create clones of him and clones of his dead girlfriend.

Hulk has dead parents, abusive too on his father’s side, he has a dead wife and child. Was hunted down like a dog. Was killed multiple times. His wife hated him for years, and his own cousin thinks she’s better and more oppressed than he is despite not suffering like he has.

All his friends betray him, his ex wife slept with another man to hurt him. He was technically raped. And he gets constantly mutilated all the time.

Hulk's riding bitch to Ghost Rider, Spider-man's sitting on Bull's should like in OP image, Wolverine is sitting with his back stuck to Peter's back, no webbing, maybe he has his fists pointed toward Hulk, idk, now class in hulk 's back. And they are flying down the highway.
It looks weird and but Hulk's not catching bugs in his teath, cuz you know, Flaming Skull. The Spirit of Vengence, now the name of the Cycle, drags them through the air at top speeds, super naturally clinging to the road as hard as when it comes up the side of buildings, and whatever Drag big Hulk would make is being pushed ahead of them and split like water around a torpedo because Ghost Rider is on fire. Everyone is fine, except the Hulk he's furious.
The only reason why this works is because a furious and kinda stupiding Hulk has a burning flaming skull front of him and they are on their way to smash.

Let's say for example they are going to wreck some vampires, or Punch one of Odin's Destroyer Armors on the loose.

when they get there Hulk would be able to punch them to the moon. Or punt them into orbit directly from the Cycle stopping short and flinging the three riders forward.

And his ex-wife ate his beating heart right in front of everyone. Awkward!

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Ahura is apparently only 16 last time his age was mentioned a few years ago. Nobody has the slightest idea how old any of the royals are because it got wildly different every time it comes up. The general agreement is that they all age really slow after their 20/30s to the point where we have future stories where Maximus is alive in 5k years and Black Bolt was alive millions of years in the future of Thanos wins.

Thanos Wins is a mess of a non-canon story, but technically all the stupid nonsense of this page happened shortly after Thanos effortlessly beats all the still living Avengers so it can't be that far into the future. The only one who survives all that shit is Hulk, who becomes... A cannibal. Blah.

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>the only time spiderman is allowed to be happy is a else world what if story where everybody died because of him

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CGR's flashback a few chapters later shows that frank was on earth for thousands of years before Galactus picked him up. Then after he gets decapitated, so your pick could have only happened thousands of years after earth got wiped out. Also it's implied that beating the Celestials was one if not the least thing he did. He built his castle a few yards away/

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Jesus fuck this pisses me off like you have no idea.
But let's not get side-tracked... Kree already have an extended lifespan so Inhumans should easily live for thousands of years going by what you said about Maximus, even though he's the only example we got that's unambiguously old, given how BB looks the same way in there.

The years have not been nice to this king.
>When
During the Inhuman push when Johnny Storm was dating Medusa up till IvX and for his Son he wasn't happy with his dad in Black Bolt, Silent Wars and the beginning of Uncanny Inhumans.

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Me.

Poor baby

Eternals are also immortals. Thanos should not have grey facial hair even if it were possible for him to have facial hair.

His son's powers are also bs. How does he go from having powers similar to Black Bolt to having an entirely different powerset?

Spider-Man earned almost every bad thing that happens to him, he is a masochist, has a martyr complex, and intentionally provokes his enemies
Hulk at least has the excuse of transforming unwillingly

>his ex wife slept with another man to hurt him.
Who?

>Johnny Storm was dating Medusa
Literally no one likes that

>has a martyr complex
Peter doesn't have a martyr complex. He basically only signs up to be the martyr when it's definitely him or someone else. He actively tries to avoid that scenario though.
>and intentionally provokes his enemies
To be fair there are a lot of reasons for that. Provoking his enemies keeps them from fighting smart and also keeps them from realizing he's a fucking monster that could rend them limb from limb. And he only started doing it in the first place as a coping mechanism because he was a nervous wreck during fights.

To give you some idea of Peter's hero ethos, I refer you to the start of the current Carnage shitfest. Eddie shows up and tells him Carnage is back as some emissary of a dark symbiote god, and Peter's immediate response is try to order coffee for them. Peter gets drunk off caffeine. Peter doesn't want to be in the shit. He's just acutely aware that if he doesn't get in the shit, the shit will come for him anyway. That's literally how Uncle Ben died.

>Literally no one likes that
I'd say it's better than the alternative and it technically is, but the alternative just ruins the Inhumans and that's a sacrifice everyone is willing to make.

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Isn't he a god king of one of the Marvel afterlives? I feel like he could track down his dead loved ones if he really wanted to at this point.

>I'd say it's better than the alternative and it technically is, but the alternative just ruins the Inhumans and that's a sacrifice everyone is willing to make.
What’s the alternative? Having them together in a stable marriage?

Because Editors and Writers either forget he exists half the time or forget what powers he has. I'll try and last them all
>Powerset pre Terrigenesis
Quasi-Sonic Scream like his dad, shown off in Marvel Graphic Novel #39
Energy Beams: shown off in Fantastic Four Unlimited #2 and #11
Force Field Generation: shown off in Inhumans: The Great Refuge
Evil Eye (basically look of death): shown off in Daredevil #276
Telepathy & Empathy: shown off in Marvel Graphic Novel #39, FF (2013) #6, and FF Unlimited #11 and in IS issue #4 it's shown he can use this to Mind control people
Flight: shown off in FF (2013) #25
Matter & Energy Manipulation: Secret Invasion: Inhumans #4
Enhanced Intelligence & Memory: shown off in Daredevil #279 & FF Unlimited #2
Power Absorption: FF Unlimited #2 and #11
>Post - Terrigenesis
Pretty much anything that has to do with the Astral plain and shit like that.
if Franklin was that kid who was BS OP with one really big power and like 3 smaller ones then Ahura is that Kid who has a million powers and doesn't know what to do with them

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I too wish to forget it as well. Thank goodness it never come up again after IvX shot it in the fact.

>What’s the alternative?
Medusa and Black Bolt being happy and together. Only one of them being happy is WAY better than both of them being happy, but both of them being happy contains the cancer.

They should just retcon him as a wizard like they did with Spider-Man if they're gonna give him that much bullshit.

Yeah I could buy that desu. His dad knows Doctor Strange and his first cousin Luna Maximoff is daughter of Quicksilver so I wouldn't think Wanda trading him in Magic wouldn't be out of the question.

>I refer you to the start of the current Carnage shitfest
he bud, know where can I hop into that shit? or the name of the arc?
Prett please

Absolute Carnage.

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His "BFF" has probably had it worse, statistically speaking.
>Gets cancer
>Leaves the woman he loves so she doesn't have to watch him die
>Signs up for Weapon X, ends up being basically tortured by horrific experiments
>Starts getting romantic with Death, tries to kill himself but cant due to the healing factor
>Experiments lead to him having terrible memory problems, on top of people constantly wiping his memories
>Ends up getting some random woman pregnant after a one night stand situation without realizing
>A year later he sees the woman and his kid, gets mind wiped immediately after and forgets about them
>Years later he eventually finds his baby-mama dead in a mass grave, who was killed just because she knew him
>Even later he finds the kid
>Nearly get her murdered about 3 or 4 different times
>Gets tricked by Stevil Rogers into ultimately killing his kids adopted mother for a second time(LMD's 'n shiet)
>Ultimately wipes his memories of his kid to protect her from being in his life and reverting him back to Waypool mode, which was already bad enough
>Is now missing his only child growing up
>Not to mention almost every super-person hates him because he's annoying, except for Spider-Man
>Once murdered Peter Parker two times in five minutes, so he obliviously killed one of his few real friends, twice
>Still having to live with terminal cancer every day among everything else
And that's only a small chunk of the depression ice berg that is Deadpool. Also he:
>Got beaten up by Santa Claus at least twice.

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>Only one of them being happy is WAY better than both of them being happy, but both of them being happy contains the cancer.
This doesn’t make sense at all

Thought I was the only one, but he already struck me as an anti-Inhuman fag so whatever.

Poor Wade doomed to forever be the sad clown with almost no one to turn to.

Or a cucklover

He is Pagliacci

Medusa and/or Black Bolt being happy is a bad thing. I thought I was pretty clear. Their heads should be on pikes next to Namor and Professor X.

Christ almighty here we go again. Go fuck your self your autism isn’t needed. Stop ruining happy and established marriages.

But I don't want to ruin their marriage. In lieu of them dying horribly, them only dragging each other down is the next best thing.

>Medusa and/or Black Bolt being happy is a bad thing. I thought I was pretty clear. Their heads should be on pikes next to Namor and Professor X.
They already lost there City, The Universal Inhuman leaders and Black Bolt's voice is gone. On top of all that the known living Inhumans are in hiding with no way of telling there king where they are. no need to kick them while there down.

>But I don't want to ruin their marriage. In lieu of them dying horribly, them only dragging each other down is the next best thing.
>them only dragging each other down is the next best thing.
So ruining a happy, long, and established marriage...Gotcha.

Do you think Universal would pull off a Sony and make a new Hulk movie not tied to the MCU?

>They already lost there City
They rebuilt it once already in a couple years
>The Universal Inhuman leaders and Black Bolt's voice is gone
The wrong Inhumans died
>On top of all that the known living Inhumans are in hiding with no way of telling there king where they are
Inhuman detection tech is a thing. They used it to scoop up freshly transformed NuHumans.

Are they allowed to? If so, they should do Immortal Hulk.

Everyone who let The Hood exist deserve to be beaten, what fucking garbage. This page isn't even the worst of it, that's how bad it is. It's like they dredged up the trashiest, edgiest fan fiction they could find and then made it worse.

It's Bendis. What did you expect?

You have issues.

I like this idea. Didn't they have plans for their "Dark Universe" which never took off? They could easily do Immortal Hulk if they follow the weird Gamma occurrences around The Green Door in a somewhat gritty tone, culminating with Hulk going into Hell and shutting the Door from Below (avoiding the "confrontation" so it doesn't confuse viewers). All of the first act, sans Avengers, is perfect for a movie.

>Be Pym
>Be founding father of the Avenger
>Be super fucking genius
>Nobody gives you respect
>Nobody cares about you
>Tony went full fucking fascist
>It is k
>Cap nuked an entire fucking city
>It is k
>Group of muties running around composed of known murderers and terrorists
>It is k
>Pym slapped a bitch once
>Keep getting shit on for it

Being Pym is suffering

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Daily reminder that The Hood canonically beat the shit out of Doom and ruined his face too

>They rebuilt it once already in a couple years
True
>The wrong Inhumans died
Kree's fault for trying to make Black Bolt into there next big weapon, Skrull tried the same thing in the Secret Invasion Inumans tie in and it backfired on them.
>Inhuman detection tech is a thing. They used it to scoop up freshly transformed NuHumans.
Yeah they could do that and then load them all up with powers from the big ass Primagen crystal they got from Royals and then nuke the fuck out of the new Kree and Vox with them.

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This.
Pym's story angers me.

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wasnt his son kidnapped and then time shenanigans happened?

>Before becoming a superhero
Hulk
>After becoming a superhero
Spider-Man

Reed somehow got away with doing the same shit. Hell i am pretty sure Moon Knight and Spider slapped their whore of a wife around once or twice too

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There is also that little thing where a created one of the Avengers' greatest foes and the fact that he went Yellowjacket on them
And i'm saying that as someone who likes Pym

when was the last time they threw ragnarok in starks face? how about the fact bill foster is dead and wrapped in a fucking tarp in a giant ditch because of it? hell what about starks adventures in san fran? i get he created ultron but hes the only character that still has to live with the damn mistakes. years from now hydra cap wont even be a footnote, but the slap and ultron will always remain.

Basically what happen is Thanos was coming to the Inhuman City and while that was happening the end of the was going on. So Black Bolt gave his son to Kang to fast forward him through that crisis and to hold on to him till all that shit was over. In uncanny inhumans #0 comes to get his son but Kang pulls a fast one on him and takes the kid on the time shenanigans. Kang is later killed by this boy, he becomes kang, then he is beaten and they go back in time to save the boy from kang and the kid gets Kang to fuck off

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Not even close.

Read a Comic. Banner's day to day life is essentially as a homeless person. He's even had to stoop to eating trash out of the garbage.

He's constantly getting beaten up and mutilated, constantly being attacked by people that call him their friend. Has whole government organization's dedicated to hunting him down like a dog, and either killing him, or dragging him off to experiment on him.

His dad keeps coming back to haunt him, even after dying and dying again. He's constantly a war with himself, struggling with manifestations of his trauma over and over again.

Betty died, and that drove Banner to suicide, but of course he couldn't die. He can't die. Ever. She's back now, but she's changed, different. He's essentially damned her, not intentionally but she, Rick, Skaar, Lyra, Jen all of these people that he loves and cares about are bound to Hell through no fault of their own. Just because they're associated with him.

He dies, goes to Hell, and comes back only to go to die and go to Hell again. Even when he doesn't die, being the Hulk hurts, the transformation is exceedingly painful, and even more so nowadays.

And worst of all? It will not end. Ever. His friends, his family, he'll watch all of them die. Ben Grimm will live 365 times the length of a regular person, if he isn't killed, but that will be a blink in Banner's eye by the end.

Banner's fate is to be left lonely, the last living thing in a dead universe, left with nothing but his guilt and the Hulk.

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>when was the last time they threw ragnarok in starks face
To be fair, that was the fault of sabotage by Skrull Pym which literally couldn't have happened if Pym didn't get captured like a bitch. One fucking job, m8.

a robot thor to reign in your friends was a terrible idea with or without sabotage. how was that supposed to end? and what did he think thor would do when he came back?

There are many characters who have suffered a lot than famous characters.

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>how was that supposed to end
Ragnarok works for Tony full time acting like Thor until Tony is sure he doesn't need a leash and he is left to his own devices. When Thor gets back, Tony asks for forgiveness and for Thor to welcome and mentor Ragnarok as representative of Asgard.

Thor has zero moral standing to bitch about robot clones.

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Oh yeah.

Nobody knows the mysterious Deathstroke ripoff you posted.

Not like he has two movies or anything.

Technically he has 3 movies.

Animal Man

Matt.
Daredevil is suffering-man foh

when did this get added to the canon

>except for Spider-Man
Steve ,wolverine and Cable are exceptin. Spiderman just tolerates him.

Only tumblrinas and memepool fans push for SP/DP BFF push.

Picture is one of the example.

>Raise your hand if your dad tortured you for science, condemned you to never speak, and locked you an isolation chamber.

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Thor in a weird way

Poor Wade.

Cap might not be so high on the friendship scale with Wade after the whole Secret Empire thing, but yeah you got a point

dont forget getting stuck in Ultimate Universe's SHIELD prison for awhile.

>Fired by Tony Stark

Stop taking images off Reddit and making threads out of them

oh fuck off, even the Thing had it harsher.

Spider-man is a pussy beta male who comes off like a whiny ass millienial compared to most tragic heroes in the marvel universe.

What if they merged and became spiderhulk?

This.

Yeah but Reed slapped Sue because she was evil and had to make her hate him to be good again. He gets a pass

Someone once said it’s just a matter of statistics, yeah reed and Pete both hit their wives but that was in a single page of a forgotten issue of their own comic. Hanks been exclusive to a team book for years. So Pete and reeds tramsgression is far easier to bury under the hundreds of thousands of pages and Hanks is always going to be right there in the middle of the avengers where no one can hide it. It’s bullshit since they’ve shown every avenger committing a worse crime by this point and coming out fine but it is what it is

>Hulk is a cuck
HA!

He cucked her back pretty hard, at least

When did what get added to canon?

The Thing most definitely does not have it harsher.

also cancer