So ive been playing my guitar on and off for about 6 months but i think im good enough to upgrade but im somewhat broke. Should i upgrade my guitar or my amp first? Im using one of those cheap epiphone les paul special II packs with the shitty amp that comes with it, yall probably know what im talking about. Im ready to get deeper into it now that i have a bit
More time and money on my hands. I want a nice new guitar but i feel like an amp would be better to upgrade first at the same time. Pic what im using currently
So ive been playing my guitar on and off for about 6 months but i think im good enough to upgrade but im somewhat broke...
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Let me break it down for you:
If you're more focused on your playing, get a better guitar.
If you're more about the tone and sound, get a better amp.
Simple as.
This. Amp change will make the biggest difference in sound, even a shitty guitar can sound good coming out of a nice amp, but getting a new guitar that's set up, that you pick out specifically for yourself, will expand your ability to play, especially if you're interested in more technical types of music.
Ok i like this advice i still want to work on my playing since i i struggle with a couple of basic barre chords still. ive been looking at some squier tellys so i think ill buy that and next ill buy one of the boss katanas. The epiphone amp doesnt have a bad tone for punk or classic southern rock styles which is what i enjoy playing the most atm. Thank yall
Buy a Soldano amp and a Suhr guitar
Also, since you wanna more move from Humbucker to Single Coils in the tele, definitely try out the tele first to see if you like it. Teles especially are kind of a love it or hate it kinda guitar, and it's a very different guitar design in comparison to your epiphone, the neck shape and string tension alone might be a put off and Single Coils simply react differently to your playing so you can't necessarily handle the guitar in the same way. I find that I can be a lot sloppier on my Les Paul compared to my Strat.
I have about a $700 budget chill lmao
do you enjoy playing that guitar? if it feels good under your fingers and stays in tune and so forth then there's not really a reason to ditch it yet. I would go for the amp. actually before that you might think about upgrading from the shitty stock pickups.
Yeah i went to the music and arts store (we dont have a local shop around here :( ) today mainly to flirt with the cashier lady but i tried out the tellys and i love the feel and look of em. The tone isnt as hard as a humbucker but i still love them. Idk i might go back and just try a few strats too since most of the bands i grew up loving played strats for the most part
>boss katanas
for what it's worth I think the black star ID core sounds way better, as far as synth amps or whatever they're called go.
Nah the guitar is a piece of shit. It never stays in tune and theres so much string buzz. I know its the action thats causing the buzz and maybe i play a little too rough. I love the feel of it but les pauls are kinda heavy and i kinda want to try something new.
Ill have to check that one out. My friend has one of the boss katanas and i love the fact that you can get a shit ton of tones on the computer with it.
Definitely upgrade the guitar first. Either find one in a store you like or keep an eye out for a decent used Squire or something equivalent. Make sure whatever you do you get the instrument set up after purchasing it.
Decent solid state amps are a dime a dozen in pawn shops and can usually be snagged up super cheap.
Your can get an amp and guitar that'll do you justice for at least a couple years on this budget.
First thing you want to do is invest in some Strymon pedals.
Yeah i think ill up my budget sooner than a few years i think im progressing decently since ive had prior experience when i was 12. I just dont wanna buy an expensive fender or prs when i can only play welcome to paradise, lazy eye and a couple title fight songs lol
That's why a 300$ Squire and equivalent amp should treat you more than kind.
Many pros even your with this level equipment. Check out what Mike Rutherford uses in Genesis.
>Tour*
Yeah my friends in blue deputy and khaki cuffs did a little tour with squiers. Theyre not pros but they definitely know their way around guitars. I appreciate the feedback im gonna go to the store tomorrow and actually come back with something tomorrow.
Hope you keep us updated with a new thread!
have you considered amp modeling? i spent a stupid amount of money on tube amps and stuff chasing tones until buying a $100 focusrite interface thing and i love it. even more than all of the digital amps its so cool being able to emulate a shitload of effects pedals
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thats the one i got. for amp modeling you can use whatever from like garageband to dedicated guitar stuff like biasfx. tons to pirate
yeah that's an instrument interface. It has nothing to do with amp modelling.
user, you didn't suddenly get it in your head to upgrade your gear just to have an excuse to go flirt with the M&A girl, now, are you? Maybe she can halp you practice your fingering for those barre chords?
i have done 0 research into any of this shit, i just bought the accessory and use biasfx to make the fun sounds. i have no real idea what im doing except not spending money on more shit i dont have room for
fucking retard
doesnt make sense really. this is wrong, you basically only need an amp to play live with a drummer. thats about it. many classic records I think even led zeppelin use a battery powered "pignose" amp on some recordings... also the josh hommes found one of his tones in some basic 10Watt practice amp. Smaller amps actually sound better at home conversational levels and you can absolutely record with them. Most of these baby practice amps actually sound great all you have to do is switch to "distortion" channel, put gain on 0, absolute minimum, volume on maximum, eq flat and then play with your guitar knobs for sound.
the current squier series like classic vibe and such are good guitars, you may need a little setup and sometimes the electronics need inspecting but you can drop $3-400 on a squier , do a setup and maybe install some mods it will be as good or better than the bottom tier fenders... especially if you were planning on doing the mods anyways
dont chase tone
just practice with your cheapo gear
today is gonna be that day that you practice with your cheapo gear
6 months is not long enough to know what you're doing. just go to the used section of your local shop and pick out whatever looks cool. the only spec you should worry about is whether you want a whammy bar or a fixed bridge
Get a squire tele and a used line6 spider III in as high a wattage as you can find.
The spider gets a lot of hate but that's just because it has an "insane" mode which is practically useless. It's actually a very solid amp that can produce nice clean tones and a bunch of alternative, punk, or metal sounds while being able to stay quiet as a practice amp or loud enough for a band setting. The only reason I would advise away from a spider is if you already know exactly the amp you want.
title fight is sick
your friends with khaki cuffs? that's awesome
Set your fucking guitar up properly with fresh strings every month or two and get a modelling preamp pedal at the very least. The tech is cheap now. A Flamma FS06 preamp pedal is around $70 and will do the trick even with your shitty amp and get you 7 amps with 2 channels each. You want tonal variety to figure out what you like, then go suck some dicks and buy a real deal tube amp. I have the Flamma, a Kemper, and a Neural Quad Cortex, and for a fly rig, I just use one of those to FOH/monitors and they all sound great.
$250 on a Fender Super Champ and the rest on a Made in Mexico Fender or if you get lucky a Korean epiphone
I started playing guitar about a year ago, bought a Squier MIC Telecaster, shit plays so perfectly for $220 I paid for it. I honestly don't see myself ever moving from it. The first upgrade I did was buy an G1X Four multi-effects pedal. I played bass beforehand so I already had an amp.
desu i wanted to learn blues scales for years
It was only once i spent a lot to get a tone i'm happy with that i started practicing every day..
once size fits all advice is rarely helpful
have you tried tuning up all the time? shitty tuners hold better if you always tune upward (if your too high go too low then back up)
as far as the buzz im suprised, I had a bottom end epiphone with humbuckers and its just fine (mind you its from the 90s, god knows what they put in them anymore) but have you tried eliminating interference. keep your guitar and amp away from other electronics outlets wires as much as possible
I mean, even a really nice guitar won't sound all that great if it hasn't been set up properly.
Upgrade your pickups.
Facts
This would be step two for me after getting a decent intermediate guitar.
Most of what I play are cheaper guitars with upgraded pups; it feeling good in your hands that's the most important thing physically for a guitar.
Same boat as you user. I was able to pick up a used Epi Les Paul Standard Pro with a Seymour Duncan bridge pickup for $350 and a used Orange Crush 12 for $80. Couldve spent a little extra on the amp but Im diggin the little guy so far.
Go to a music store, try a few guitars and then hunt for a used one for 1/2 the cost.
Always go used my guy. FB Marketplace and Craigslist are your friends.
Also
G&L > Fender or Squier
And G&Ls are cheaper.
>it feeling good in your hands that's the most important thing physically for a guitar.
yep
get a better guitar. i'd even recommend buying a nice overdrive pedal before a nice amp unless you're somewhere you can actually play loud.
id get the pedalboard stack running before i upgraded the axe or the box
that’s gonna really open your ears up to what you want from your instrument tonally
nicer guitars play and sound better, but you could have your current guitar setup file the frets lower the action
unless you spend 1k+ you’re not gonna get your money over entry level imo
or a scarlett 2i and fuck with vsts
>unless you spend 1k+ you’re not gonna get your money over entry level imo
you are if your original guitar is from a starter pack.
Have you tried a setup? If you did, how about a nicer Les Paul, eg an Epi Standard?
This. Get someone competent to fret level your guitar and get it setup. This can make even a cheap guitar play amazingly. You can also upgrade the pickups to something better.
Buying an entry level guitar to replace his entry level guitar is dumb. He'd get far more out of a good setup.
A better guitar will be more comfortable.
A better amp will sound better.
If there's something about your guitar that you dislike or think could be better, definitely look at guitars that fix that aspect. If not, have a hold of a nicer one that interests you and see how you feel. Then try out some better amps. There's no right answer, try some stuff out!
>a tone i'm happy with
What did that take?
What did you go from, to?
Fret levelling/dressing would cost about $150-200. Setup maybe $50, but you can do that on your own with screwdrivers and a how-to guide.
I was looking for a good blues tone
I had an epiphone LP with a blackstar mini amp
I got a cheap chinese strat copy and added pedels: blues driver overdrive, compressor and reverb
you need a really good tuner in order to properly set the intonation. That'll cost more than just paying someone else to do it
>paying for an expensive tuner in 2022
just use a tuning app on ur phone bruh
lol no you don't. a good phone app is good enough.
What is it about intonation that a regular tuner can't do for someone working on adjustable saddles? We're not talking about a violin, here.
This is good advice. Get something cheap that gives you big variety so that you know specifically what sound you want to spend money on.
>What is it about intonation that a regular tuner can't do
tune really really accurately
a professional luthier doesn't use a fucking clip on tuner. come on.
>tune really accurately
lol, how accurate does some guy at home need to tune it for intonation setup? If a clip-on tuner's good enough for an open string, it's good enough for the 12th fret. We're not talking professional luthiers building instruments from sratch; we're talking about some regular person with a couple guitars wanting to save money on a professional setup.
Good bait, though.
phone tuners are very accurate