Miraculous Ladybug - Startrain Thread

They were able to teleport the whole train from space. I think it's pretty plausible excuse.

So what exactly was the Akuma in this one? The train or the conductor?

Conductor.

Interesting that hawkmoth had nothing to do with the akuma parts since it was out of range. So her power/name/design/reason for being were all on her.

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ladybug is shit

I agree, Chat Noir is better

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Youtube. Practically every episode is there.

This. I liked how they started the plot with Sabrina, she has nothing to do with Marinette nor Adrien, it just feel good to saw her interacting with her dad.

So does Adrien like Marinett?

Why would anyone like Marinette?

H-help!

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Maybe anime has conditioned him to think sleephugging is normal friend behaviour?
...nah.

>Chat finally knows who uses a Miraculous
Unironically cool.

I mean he knew about Chloe, Luka, Kagami and now Max, its really just Nino and Alya she kept secret

Guys. Is Juleka a chad?

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of course she is

now I wanna see her bullying Luka for being a cuck

>even Ladybug doesn't know who Kim is
I forgot Fu gave it to him directly.

IIRC it was confirmed on twitter that kim gave the miraculous back to Marinette.

It was nice not to have chloe drama for like 6 days, but oh well. And this has another example of production order = viewing order doesn't always work out since their reaction to her asking for the bee is clearly pre-miraculer.

And its one of those instances where I wonder if they're doing it on purpose with their writing where chloe instantly becomes concerned with the safety of others as soon as she shifts into hero mode.

>And its one of those instances where I wonder if they're doing it on purpose with their writing where chloe instantly becomes concerned with the safety of others as soon as she shifts into hero mode.
I think so, besides her first appearance, Queen Bee Mode Chloe has been really obsessed with being helpful. If only that transferred back into Civilian Mode Chloe.

How? Did he just serendipitously find her while she was Ladybug?
we /ta'veren/ now

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Are London and Paris really that far off in temperature? They're like what, not even a thousand miles apart? Their weather should be similar, unless Chloe is just being her Chloe-ish self.

Look, I'm not saying there's an agenda in the fact that all the heroes are non-bird animals and all the bird-themed characters are evil, but there's a pattern here, is what I'm saying.

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Probably, but monument towers are usually pretty drafty.

I know via memes about london and rain, but I assume they wanted an excuse to use a christmas outfit again. They made winter outfits for most of the class and never used any again.

And the outfit does make her look even more bee themed with the fuzz around the neck which fits for the episode.

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the dead man's switch

Well when I said marinette I meant as ladybug. I just assumed after party crasher was defeated ladybug took the new monkey hero aside to get his miraculous.

>no one is standing next to their family, except Marinette and Sabrina

Wonder how many episodes they worked on?

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It was like emotional roller-coaster for Sabrina. From ultra-bitchy Chloe to super nice Lila and then again to Chloe. If the show wasn't Miraculous "Status Quo Is A God" Ladybug I would've assumed it's a setup for Sabrina switching her loyalty or something like that.

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The bad looking ones, I guess.

>we may never see the present Alix's Bunix
It hurts man, she's one of my favorite characters.

>"you wouldn't feed this"
just fucking watch me

So, any final bets for Feast? I hope we get an action scene with Marinette and Adrien.

Fuck off, Monsieur Rat, formerly Mister Pigeon.

The reaction video the english voice director did mentioned something people have been cosplaying showed up for the first time in the episode, so either dragonbug or multimouse.

I think Multimouse is Kwami Hunter, so it'd have to be Snake-Noir or Dragonbug.

I mean if it wasn't for status quo I'd wonder if lila would try to get back at sabrina for foiling her plan.

And this new capta system sucks

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I fucking love Max doing The Robot to transform.

So, was the Ice car void of all air, or just Oxygen? Did they just survive being exposed to open space for minutes, with no consequences?

They did say max would die without superpowers.

Yeah, but from no Oxygen, or the vacuum of space? Both deadly, but one much more survivable than the other.

>Zag focusing entirely on Ladybug and hinting at a new cartoon about living toys
>No Pixie Girl
>No Ghostforce
>No Melody movie
why does it have to be this way

They stopped bitting off more than they can chew, for once. Once Zak Storm ends, that'll free up a whole team that can work on one of those non-Ladybug ideas.

Never! I will amass a rat-pigeon army and take over all of Paris! And then THE WORLD!

Her plan was already foiled by Alya. Lila changed her face because Alya turned away and no one could see her.

>Ladybug gets a constable's hat
>never wears it
Come on! This is first day stuff!

I can't tell a difference

Chloe is such a better protagonist than Marinette.

Not really. Even at the end of Miraculer Chloe doesn't accept them rejecting her and says they'll come to her again whether they think it or not.

So she's still acting like she's Queen Bee and they're just irritated because what else can they do. They can't force her to stop acting like that.

No oxygen and it was vaccumed and reduced to the abosolute zero of space.

They held their breath for the oxygen problem and their Miraculous protected them from the cold and void.

See, this is why HM's bullshit kinda makes sense. In a magic-less setting, his quest would be obviously delusional and impossible. But in this setting, where magic is almost common and so simple that 14-year-olds are regularly entrusted with it by the highest powers in the universe, it's almost reasonable. He's like a communist who goes, "hey, the landlords have food and we don't", so he decides to kill the landlords and take it, ignoring the societal problems that will cause later down the line. HM just wants to make magic benefit everybody, instead of the chosen few...despite his akumas- and entirely malicious bullying of Nooroo- being close proof that not everybody can be trusted with magic. He's not even the only Miraculous wielder to be selfish (see Marinette in "Bubbler" and "Volpina") and he DID promise to cherish his wife beyond everything else.
He's a good villain. Relatable enough to be hilarious, but dumb and cruel enough that we don't forget who we should be rooting for.

*somewhere in Paris, Hawkmoth groans*

Subliminally, when she isn't panicking as a dolt and acts normally.

By the way, HM have a limit distance to control the akuma, after all.

So, how much hours until Feast? Curious about Fu's transformation sequence.

I think having the freedom to move and react to her as he likes makes a difference, too.

We did see Chloe protect Sabrina from the Akumas in the Ladybug sentimonster episode.

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Any good clips?

What do you mean?

Did anyone notice that Mylène looked a lot chubbier in this episode? She was always thick but she had a noticeable belly in this episode.

I guess it could be because she was sitting, what would be the reason for making a side character fatter out of nowhere?

I suspect Jews are at fault of this.

Lila too has a visible belly and small breasts.

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>instantly gain 10-20 pounds upon sitting down

Is this something the French are known to do?

>what would be the reason for making a side character fatter out of nowhere?

It’s part of Mylene’s arc. Chloe makes fun of her for getting fat(ter) but when she’s given the Mouse miraculous and helps save the day she develops confidence and becomes more body positive.

That's basically how character arcs for students in the class look like except Chloe, Adrien and Marinette.

>"Oh god heavens Ladybug, you french and your people of color! I havent been so close to one of those since my time in the Bleeding Kansas. Now you boy, go and fetch me some tea!"

W-What did she meant by this?

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Where did we hear that Hawk Moth wants the Miraculous to benefit everybody? He wants to heal Emilie and wants to gather all the Miraculous for some vague purpose that definitely doesn't seem benevolent.

Is she voiced by Tabitha St. Germain? I'm getting...horse vibes.

That part where she called him a cotton-picker while lashing her tail at him was a bit too much.

Will this be Fu's end? It's supposed to be his transformation episode.

Party Crasher and Ikari Gozen are both set after this episode, and both feature Fu giving out Miraculous, so it doesn't seem like it.

He's still around in future episodes, and I even like his new status quo then his old one.

Before any time she needed a miraculous marinette had to run across town while cat held the line till she got back with the other hero(es). Now he'll just be conveniently nearby when ever the plot needs him to be.

"I need the ____ miraculous!" then fu pops out from behind a dumpster/under a manhole/inside a mailbox and hands over whatever one she needs.

Teenage pregnancy. Parisians are horny as hell.

>3 foot 4 Myléne taking 6 foot even Ivan's dick
Lord have mercy.

>Transform once
>instantly die

Thus is the the path of the tortoise.

God I wish that were me.

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>inside a mailbox
You know what, he can totally fit in one.

You know it's happened. Remember in the amnesia episode where everyone in the end admits to playing a game with a partner that is "for kids"? We had No & Ayla doing it in a closet, Mylene & Ivan played it, Rose & Juleka, & even fucking Sabrina spills she plays it with Chloe. It was the most obvious analogy for sex since Steven Universe's fusions.

No. But Hawkmoth seemingly locates his shop this episode, forcing him to have to remain on the run.

Oh yeah, and Alya said Marinette and her used to do it together.

He does say this in heroes day. Or rather he tells Ladybug that maybe his wish would be good for everyone and she never considered stubbornly playing the hero might be a mistake. He also tells them that if they're such great heroes they should be trying to do more with their powers than just maintaining the status quo.

However given that this was an illusion Hawkmoth trying to lure them into position where Dark Cupid could shoot them and Akumatize them, he probably was just trying to trick them.

He'll be like Agent 13 in Get Smart, always hiding in the weirdest spots to help when needed.

>"Oh, Master, you're in the soda machins today?"
>"Yes, and I'm making the most money I've ever had. Here. (Dispenses a Miraculous and a can of Coke)"

No, Alya just said that Marinette needed to find "the right partner". Adrien said it looks fun.

If only Adrien said that he beat it by himself then we get a masterbation joke into the mix. For all we know Marinette has played it by herself.

So, what are we predicting for Feast, assuming there will be actual plot-development and it won't be another cocktease.

It was Adrien who asked Nino if they could play it together

The summery says Fu takes the Ring and Earrings back, and shit hits the fan. I assume he thinks he has a better plan, it back fires, and he gets discovered. Obviously Chat and Ladybug will come back, but I hope we see Mari and Adrien fighting as civilians first. If Fu gets caught, he'd be on the run, that'd be neat.

Probably some lore about Fu's time on Tibet. Another summary stated Adrien and Mari will be busy with a sentimonster while Fu deals with Feast.

Almost everyone took seats as romantic couples. Does pairing Sabrina and Lila means anything? It would be pretty hot as Lila could be very "imposing".

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>publicly badmouthing your own animators
kind of unprofessional

I want to hope that Feast is a villain from Fu's tims and possibly the one he made his mistake to trust.

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Strangely erotic

Neat

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Y'know Sabrina does have that peacock-colored sweater vest. She could get the miraculous following Nathalie.

It really is.

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I guess we're never getting present Alix as Bunnyx then.

Of course not. It's stated that Bunnyx never get called on unless it's dire.

where can i find the show in french? i used to watch it on youtube, but the channel
got terminated and everywhere i look for only have it in shit-english

I had hope that she would get the Butterfly itself, but Timetagger pretty much dashed that.

She's got to start at some point. Unless we're just never seeing her again.

Yeah, but I want to see OUR Alix transform.

OK, this is less strange and more outright seduction

Doesn't miraculousladybug.to have a language toggle?

>Unless we're just never seeing her again.
Way to go pal, you fuckin' jinxed it.

Just looked the studio up. It's Zag's fault for being dumb enough to hire them, they're clearly shit.

Maybe one more time-travel-based episode at best, to show a better idea of how the war between Marinette and Lila has escalated.

it does, but it does not apply to video, just the page itself

I'm totally fine with adult Alix/Bunnix eventually time dropping to help again. Also, it isn't as present Alix have a way to repair the broken miraculous the future Alix gave to her.

>Nathaniel is nailing Mrs.Bustier

Dude moves fast.

is that a mobile game?

miraculousladybug.to/fr/videos
They're in French there, are they not?

Yeah, Present Alix has the broken miraculous from Future Alix, but Fu still has the Miraculous that Ladybug would give her. Also, they really should look into getting that busted watch fixed.

yes it is

Yeah, but but it's just a Temple Run clone, Adrien dabs.

i just did some testing, it does, but the latest episodes aren't for some reason

> Lila takes Butterfly and Peacock Miraculouses
> makes Sabrina and Chloe to break up
> befriends Sabrina and shows her what ideal friendship is
> Sabrina realizes how fucked up was her relationship with Chloe
> starts hating Chloe with a great passion
> Lila gives Sabrina Peacock Miraculous to take her revenge
> we have an amazing story arc about Nu-Mayura vs Queen Bee confrontation well placed into the main story
> after several fights Sabrina finally beats Queen Bee fulfilling her revenge but falls exhausted and almost dying
> Chloe saves Sabrina and they have heartwarming moment of realization how full of shit they were
Instead we will have
> Sabrina was given Dog Miraculous
> she spends a few episodes doing nothing in the background because it's actually episodes about Chloe
> at the end Sabrina doesn't change even in a bit
> Sabrina accepts new redeemed Chloe just like any other Chloe
> their previous issues never brought up again
> they hug
> the end
Fuck this gay Earth.

The latest episodes haven't gotten a French release yet.

> Nathaniel is bi
I guess?

I didn't really like Chloe at the start if Startrain, I just feel like she has moved beyond that by now, but I loved how she tried to take charge after the Akuma appeared. I just wish there was a scene of Alya and Nino trying to call her out, and she replies along the lines of "Well, maybe the people with real hero experience should take over, a show of hands?" I just want to see Alya seethe at the thought of being unable to reveal themselves.

Chloe started phoning Sabrina immediately after dismissing her while Sabrina hasn't even left their cart. It looks like Chloe didn't even care about what she asked Sabrina but was pushing her for some sort of sadistic fun.

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So, we still using this thread for Feast talkback?

twitch.tv/miraculous_international

stream

Alternatively, miraculousladybug.to/en/live

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Yeah. We are not like some of mongoloids spamming catalog with our shit.

Fu's a fucking idiot

Isn't it a bit of AtLA "paying homage"?

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More like those who put such a wait on his shoulders.

Good. Your fanfiction sounds like weeb garbage.

>more boxes
Are they clones of Ladybug and pals, or are they whole new sets?

Many many other sets. Alya just mentioned some of them a moment earlier.

Holy shit she almost didnt make that flip

And they all just being restored! This show could introduce hundreds of them now.

>the whole ass temple is back
Cool, they're screwed since they have no idea how to handle keeping a secret in modern society, but cool.

frikken epic

>No Jade Turtle.
>In fact they confirm Fu is just too old to transform anymore.

So the concept art was just a troll I guess?

We know one is Brazillian.

Jesus christ I had enough of you Sabrinafags. Sabrina is just a joke character and will never be anything more. Get over it. If and i said IF she ever receives a miraculous, it will be in order to lick chloe's feet even more as she is Queen Bee. Sabrina will never develop, she will neve evolve and she will never find happiness that doesnt involve licking chloe's balls, because she is just a bad jew joke and that is what she will always be.

Why even have Wayzz out? Just a talking buddy?

Wtf are yoy on about Chloe in full "bitch hero" mode was by far the best thing in the episode

>"alright everyone! DONT PANIC!.....but there's an akuma."

That just cracked me up

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Has Feast aired yet? It was supposed to come out today from what I hear.

Kinda of lazy having fu's peacock outfit be the exact same as mayura's since they showed two other peacock users in this episode.

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Well maybe she will have both Dog and Peacock at different moments or even simultaneously.

It just ended.

That's what I said.
Bitch Queen Bee= Good
Bitch Chloe = less good.

I hope Sabrina's Peacock outfit will be more exciting.

I wonder if the whole peacock emilie thing is meant to be the same as gabriel being hawkmoth. "Really fucking obvious but we're gonna take a while to confirm it".

Is there a new episode today?

Adrien said they had the same dizzy spells, so it was confirmed this episode. Gabe wasn't actually confirmed until Collector. Man, remember those crazy season one theories?

Interesting that the guardians just randomly chose Fu from a Tibet village to be a guardian one day.

Is there some kind of special thing they were looking for?

I meant the same as in collector, like how long till someone just literally says it out loud and not just beating you over the head with implying.

Nah they are both amusing since they are the same person

>you are sent to a magic hellacape for an unknown amount of time by a thirteen year old brat
>get brought back to a strange new modern world not compatible with any of your traditions
>two decades after that, the kid knocks on the door and says that he gave a box of the most power magical artifacts known to mankind to a sixteen year old girl
>he justifies it by saying that she's cool
So, they're going to literally torture Fu to death, right?

Whoa is Feast the most lore-filled episode we have seen in this show? This shit was great more pls.

>Plagg could play the piano all this time and just never told Adrien who played the piano alone every day

Pretty much. It wasn't quite as DEEP as people were expecting. Fu destroyed the temple because he was hungry and lost the peacock and butterfly because he tripped on the way out. But it was lore non the less and even broke the status quo by having Fu abandon his shop though we knew that was gonna happen.

Only the Plagg Piano Duet is powerful enough to distract Adrien from "Your Mom Is Dying (Reprise)"

>implying this enourmous beta would ever nail a woman of fine caliber like Caline
lmao
Nathaniel should just stick to the consolation gay prize

>after watching Feast

Gabriel still lets Natalie use the Peacock Miraculous even though he knows what fate awaits her if she keeps on using it *cough* *cough* what happened to his wife.

That just adds an interesting new layer of assholishness to him, even if he is concerned for her health.

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She insists on helping so it's not like he's forcing her.

So long as he wins in the end, he can just rewrite reality to get back all his losses and then some.

Was there a reason they showed Kagami and Chloe's mothers watching the restoration of the temple with apparant interest?

But what would be the last straw, before he forbids her from helping any more?

We still don't know if he'd be able to bring back more than one person with his Miraculous wish.

People have theorized about kagami's mom having a connection to that stuff since her introduction, chloe's might be set up for later/this season's finale.

Ultimate power is ultimate.

He could heal both of them. Or at least make a second wish.

I think the backstory was good. Its simple, not overly edgy and works.

On another note, just wish they didnt add all that "other sets" shit. What is the meaning of having a miraculous if everyone could have one nowadays? It just feels like it was forced to expand the plot for a little longer. Also the ammount of autistic fanfics with OCs using their own personal miraculous will just skyrocket now. Thanks Astruc you fat asshole.

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It's implied that his main wish is to turn back time and prevent the Peacock Miraculous from ever being used, thus nullifying everything he did as Hawk Moth.

>Also the ammount of autistic fanfics with OCs using their own personal miraculous will just skyrocket now
>now
They've been around for a while. Also,
>Kwami is black and white
>suit is black and blue
All furries need to go commit eat bullet.

>It's implied that his main wish is to turn back time and prevent the Peacock Miraculous from ever being used

What episode was that hinted in? I don't recall that.

If that's the plan, wouldn't getting the rabbit miraculous with time travelling powers be a more straight forward idea?

Feast goes before Ladybug so it shows Gabriel has a change of heart between those. Nice character development for him.

>Gabe puts a lot of oomph into that last "cold..."
Are there any ice or cold themed villains left? Was this before Stormy 2?

Would be neat if that happened right after Ladybug and Chat Noir discover each other's identities and fall in love. It all gets undone and Adrien ends up with Chloe instead.

So once again this episode calls into question if Hawkmoth only wants the Ladybug and Cat to make his wish then give all the Miraculous stuff up afterwards, and the only reason he targets the other Miraculous is to deny Ladybug allies and gain more tools to be used for getting the two he cares about. Or if he indeed wants them all and has further plans beyond getting his wife for their use.

Cause he says he'll let Feast eat the Ladybug and Cat and his and Mayura's own once he gets his use of the Ladybug and Cat but once he gets the Ladybug and Cat he presses him to keep going after the rest like he needs the complete set.

Granted he could have very well lied as plenty of his deals with Akuma seem like stuff he wouldn't actually allow to happen like Riposte killing his son, or Syren and Frozer premanently flooding/freezing the city.

I assume for spinoffs and this Brazillian character that Gloob is pushing for them to add.

Why do colors like blue and green attract furries so much?

Destroy Feast and have the healing wave restore the temple most probably brought back all the other miraculouses, right? Gabriel aside, what's keeping any other asshole to just go there and play Pokemon GO with kwamis? I don't know about Audrey, but it looks something Ms. Tsurugi would do.

>once he gets the Ladybug and Cat he presses him to keep going after the rest like he needs the complete set
He was rewarding Feast. If Hawkmoth would have asked it back right away, then it might have resisted.

Other than ego, what is stopping HM from talking with Ladybug about potentially making his wish?
I mean, yeah, now she won't trust him, but if he had done that in the beginning, maybe she would've listened.

We've also not learned what Gabriel and Emilie were doing with their miraculous before she fell asleep, he could've been plotting something bad all along, and his wife dying is the one thing holding him back (maybe?).

Anything Neon really.

I think he was just full of shit,like.every other time he makes a pact with an akuma
Gabe may be evil but he would never leave an akuma or a sentimonster running amok after all its said and done. Akumas are batshit crazy, leting them loose would only endanger Emilie and Adrien.

The other monks are protecting the Miraculous maybe. But then wouldnt they all come to Paris to gang up on Papillon?

I assume the old Guardians came back too. They'll probably gear up and wall themselves in until they get their bearings.

Presumably the order of trained monks and their dozens of Miraculous would easily be able to kick the ass of any single person or even merc force that tried to invade them.

Hawkmoth going there personally would end with him getting his ass kicked by a dozen mature warriors that aren't kids with single use powers and weaker physiques that could easily overpower him, take his Miraculous back and toss him to the cops.

A wish is usually never worth it, and Fu would never allow it.

I guess they're old fasioned honor bound monks. This is Fu's penance, and the monks are just gonna let him ride this one out.

So, what is keeping the monks from.sending a miraculous army to Paris and shove it at Hawkmoth's ass?

So, how can Marinette be a Guardian? Will she have to move to the temple, in Tibet? Will they just allow her to start up her new mini-order?

He tried in Heroes Day, being vague but saying his wish wasn't something evil and she was making a mistake by fighting him over it. But Ladybug insisted nothing is worst the cost of the wish, and Cat Noir chimed in that he's so evil and terrible in actions there's no way they could trust his wish wasn't something also evil.

Thats kind of assholeish tho.

Yes, it is. Fu's first mission at 13 was to fast for a day, because "fuck you."

If they make her a guardian, then they better have the balls to hand out more Miraculous', their entire class is more than deserving enough

Presumably that's just not their way. Similar to how any other Miraculous heroes crusade in the past didn't just have several dozen heroes jump in and brute force the problem.

Miraculous and their ways are supposed to be secret and until Hawkmoth publically outed them with his constant city wide demands that they turn them over to him nobody probably knew how all these heroes were connected.

They have a company logo on their clothes.

The show will not adress that, since its just obviously a plot-device to shoehorn marinette back into spotlight again.
I personally think it would be way cooler if he passed up the duty of guardian to Nino together with the Turtle miraculous. The side characters really are in desperate need of some participation on the lore.

That nobody figured out for centuries until Alya. Who only was able to put the dots together because she's used a Miraculous herself.

>Party Crasher is after this
>he is even more on the run than usual, but still finds time for a YMCA music video in Hawkmoth's house

>Can deduce that the Guardians existed for centuries
>Can't even deduce that Lila is full of shit

Lila better have a natural superpower that makes people always believe her, because it's the only excuse for how stupid everybody gets around her.

The Guardians should have stayed gone. Feast should have just droppes the Miraculouses and that's it.

Yknow fasting for a day isnt as hard as it seems. Pro wrestlers do it everytime and Xaolin monks can fast for a week with no problem. Fu is just a huge faggot.

The only inconvenience one could have would just be for water, it's easy as shit if you're in fine health. This episode just puts Master Fu in a worse light

He was 13, and raised in Shithole, Tibet. Maybe cut him some slack?

>food regularly despite the "fast periods"
>education
>discipline
>roof to sleep under
>probably a bed
>comradery of fellow monks

>shithole

Oh sweet innocent child

>that part where Chloe gets genuinley disheartened when she finds out Ladybug and Chat Noir aren't looking for her help

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So, im confused. Isnt this episode supposed to come after Miraculeur? Why is she so disheartened even though she is well aware why they blocked her from being be queen bee again? It would make way more sense if this episode came first in the storyline.

Its just the symbol of the dozens of boxes that have been out.

Apparently someone saw Cat Blanc

They said It is a very personal episode that revolves around Adrien,but does not affect the main plot as does the end of the season. And again in a later post they said it's a deeply personal episode that revolves around Adrien but doesn’t affect the finale.

mobile.twitter.com/MiraculousMX/status/1173762492050415616

They’ve also gave Cat Blanc a extremely high rating now I’m curious how good was that episode

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>food regularly despite the "fast periods"
You assume. Tibet isn't really known for having a lot of food.
>education
Yeah, learning how to fight and guard is super useful for day to day life.
>roof to sleep under
A roof, but no doors, or windows. Not that great of a shelter really.
>comradery of fellow monks
Yeah, I'll give you that one. I assume they were ALL old fashioned sticks in the mud.

Ladybug awkwardly dodging the question would say it's before miraculer, since the whole point at the beginning of that episode was her needing to man up and tell chloe the bad news.

If it's production number you're focusing on then "ladybug" fucked up season 2's production numbers beyond repair by revealing befana took place after the queen bee trilogy.

Who is this?

Anyone that thought it was a game changer was too invested in fanon. People were even saying not to watch ladybug because it would spoil it. (it didn't)

>Mexican Miraculous
>obvious statement
just smell the refined blended musk of bulshit and s o y.

>Queen Bee still has the best transformation
How does she do it, bros?

I like Max's dance, and Kim's final pose more.

>Hercules, the Lion Miraculous
>not Black Cat
>some random dark knight is the Cat
Why? They set up that Amazon as a Ladybug, they'd go well together.

No this person is extremely Reliable

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That account works on the Spanish dub of the show. They've posted behind the scenes stuff before.

She may be have the best transformation, but who has the best power summoning? Max's one was pretty good

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The guy that was the black cat miraculous owner was king Edward the 4

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tumblrfags BTFO
/ss/fags vindicted

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Who.is that? Historybros quick rundown?

I like Max, the way his suit lights up is great.

I'm sure that, from a science standpoint, being able to create and destroy matter is the coolest power ever, but I man are they the lamest from a day to day stand point.

In a world where powers can literally bend reality, its really not that much.

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Pharaoh has, like, eight powers.

IN "Dark Owl" he says something about "erasing the past".

I dont really remember the episode all that well, but I always imagined the ritual worked not because of his powers but because it was an actual magic ritual unrelated to the akuma

Yeah, but even then.
>time bubbles
>flight
>mummies
>super strength

Why haven't the models leaked already?

ZAG only leaks stuff they want to in order to keep the hype up.

Yeah but even in Miraculer Chloe didn't accept them saying she couldn't help them anymore and insisted they'd come to her again.

This is just following on that.

He was a little kid who didn't want to be there in the first place but his family forced him. No shit he wouldn't want to fast for a day.

He's not a mature adult who understands the benefits outweight the discomfort he was a hungry kid who's only thoughts were food-now.

With the reappearance of the miraculous temple in Tibet, it is only a matter of time before the monks are enslaved by the PRC and the powers used for evil

So, Fu thinks 13 is an ok age to fight supervilains and risk your lives but its not ok to fast for a day? He is an hypocrite thats what he is.

what the fuck is the episode order this season? I got some saying feast comes after ladybug and other saying that its the other way around. Does anybody have the intended order for the season?

Not really. Max's is my new personal favorite, and I'd rate both Roy Singe's and Viperion's over Queen Bee's as well.

When Fu WAS 13 he was a shitty kid, but has grown wise with age.

No. Wait for the Orderfags to assemble the perfect order.

Whatever the hell they want based on the plot.

No correct order but probably sth like that

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I'm sad that we didn't get to see Mayura get tongue raped by the Feast sentimonster

Checked. Also, some of the dates there are wrong, but those episodes already aired so it doesn't matter.

Whatever happened to the channeled autism that was that fanmade viewing order? Are they doing season 3 too?

The production order seems to work well enough.

Otherwise though the only order is that Onichan has to come before Miraculer and Miraculer Backwarder Startrain and Desperada (and also presumably Kwami Buster) have to become before Feast, and Party Crasher and Ikari Gozen have to come after Feast.

This or Duusu was plain chaotic even without the damaged miraculous and fucked Fu's mind along with his own weakness.

Was explained if Fu is indeed who damaged the peacock trinket? I didn't get that part.

He was hungry before transforming, so I doubt Dusuu drove him to act out. The Miraculous was damaged sometime before Gabe and Emile got it, so it must have been Fu dropped it, but that doesn't sound right.

My theory is that Emilie broke it after trying to create a perfect sentimonster to replace their unborn son named Adrien

It's possible that it got damaged by Fu dropping it knowing this show's writing, but I really hope that it was broken by something that Emilie did just so we can get some more characterization for her.

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Adrien won't be a Sentimonster. Felix will be.

Natalie didn't that much of an issue with Sentibug.

But, Felix's has parents that are, I assume, not villains?

>proto-Chloe was Marinette's friend
>canon-Chloe is a bitch
>Felix was a bitch
>Adrien is Marinette's friend
Pottery in motion.

Because if even one wielder decides, 'hey, I want to switch sides', the problem could get much worse.

Yes! Yes! More tragedy for the Agreste family!

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The episode is always named after the magical enemy of the day, be they Akuma, Miracle, or Sentimonster.

So im.assuming Felix will be Adrien's sentimonster since he will be the "perfect version" of himself? Why would Mayura even use an amok against him? Im curious as fuck now.

That would be impossible since Chloe knew him as a child and way before Emilie put her hands in the miraculous.

Apparently Felix does something to Rose, Juleka, and someone else, and they become an evil trio. I'm hoping for some Charlie's angles style fun.

Thinking back, We still are not aware on who was following Fu in the flashback in Backwarder. The nazi maybe? It would be pretty cool if its revealed some kind of secret magical syndicate that wants the miraculous

They are totally going to imply a threesome in this arent they?

It was the Nazis. Europeans don't mess around with the red and the zeppelins.

I want to bang Marinette's mum

Well, Felix and the three girls, so it'd technically be a foursome. Although, I'm sure the moral of the episode will be "don't get caught up on bad boys," which is what Austruc has been trying to tell everyone for years.

Santa Claus has matter bend powers

Remember when people thought she and Gabe were a think? Man, season 1 was a weird time.

Luka is pretty hot, in a generic artsy sort of way

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so I can feel pure unbridled hate once again

>Austruc has said Felix was bad, since he was a generic pretty boy
>has no issue with Luka, who is a generic guitar player

I'm sorry I thought you said why. I really think that behind all the crap there's a good show here somewhere

So Felix will just waltz into Paris and Chad his way through the city's lesbians to make his harem empire and the denial of this poligamic dream will get everyone akumatized?

Nice

It had little to do with looks and more that Felix was and seemingly still is a too cool for everyone stuck up jackass. While Luka is a cool bro to everyone.

He better stay the fuck away from my wife Rose

Would be cool if this show evolved with the audience.
It's obviously geared towards kids now, but considering how slow it is, and how they've established a future timeline with adult versions, do you think in time, they'll make seasons darker and mature to keep in touch with their growing fans?
For example, like a season 8 (for older kids), then a few seasons later a Season 15 (for young teens) and eventually a darker Season 26 for older teens and just keep the show going?
I'm obviously being very wishful with the number of seasons, and the idea that the show would last over a decade.
Just something that crossed my mind.

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>getting a wife that was buttfucked by a sandnigger and then dumped so hard she lez out and spends the rest of her days now licking a lesbian gipsy
Dont you have an ounce of dignity?

It seems like they're ending it at 5 seasons and movie, just around the time the audience would start to outgrow it.

Wonder what will happen to all those fat girls in tumblr when its all said and done. Will they move on?

Other shows have tried, for that is the golden promise, the promise that you will always have an audience. But alas that will be but a mere dream, since who knows what time has in store for us; for all we know, once Ladybug ends Paris will be but a hole in the ground or a paradise that relinquishes childrens cartoons as playthings for the pleb.

They can always sell the rigths to other studios to keep making it.

T. Juleka

They will find something new to sperge over and the cycle will continue, as all things should.

>ending it at 5 seasons and movie
Considering how slow paced it is, I honestly think that wouldn't be enough to wrap it all up.

Not before me

Austruc has gone on the record saying he has six seasons worth of plans, but that final season may have been turned into the movie.

You kidding? They literally resolved all of Fu's story in a single episode.

That's plenty of time to sort out the love square get the two together and defeat Hawkmoth, which is really all they need to do. The rest can be left open ended.

>Would be cool if this show evolved with the audience.

With the amount you people complain about Adventure Time I would have thought you would have learned why this is a bad idea. Shows need to stick with the premise they were created with.

The movie is apparantly just a glorified recap episode with movie quality animation and songs.

>The rest can be left open ended.
I guess I just want closer.
But you're right.

I don't give a shit about dykes, fags nor Juleka, Rose is mine and I love her.

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>timetagger actually comes after Feast
>in Feast Alix jokes about existing a bunny Miraculous and makes a cool foreshadowing
>foreshadowing is ruined by messed up schedule

For fucks sake!

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Well, at least now it's a neat call back. It still works.

Timetagger already shows we won't get it. They'll be adventuring well into their 20s and probably until retirement.

Given that it's supposed to be an adventure friendly magical universe where stuff like this happens all the time that's probably a given.

>having no eyelashes is hot
If you insist user. I still think he looks a bit unsettling

Didn't they tweak his model for season 3?

You're allowed to give your professional opinion of a former partner. If the partnership ended because of shoddy work being done, you're under no obligation to act like they did a good job.

So, why kid fu didnt just pick the horse miraculous to transport to the kitchen and get a snack? Or use the bunny miraculous to transport 24 hours into the future? Or use the Snake's second chance to get food without being noticed?

You know what I think would speed things up? Joint transformations. Give Mayura and Hawkmothna single shared cutscene, and use that when they both show up, instead of both of their regular ones. Same for Rena and Carapace.

Probably because he used to look really fucked up back in the day. Like his face use to look like a plastic mask, really didn't understand what Marinette was into back then.

Well, I assume the food would be reset back to the kitchen, instead of his stomach. He had to watch not, so skipping ahead would just be like not watching at all. Finally, I guess he was too stupid think of the Horse.

Didn't Kung Food have mind control as a power? Like people who ate his food were under his control?

No, I think it was just food weapons.

Didn't he make Jagged and Chloe's dad fight them?

I wonder if they had anything to do with this:

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Are there any prominent charactesr that haven't been akumatized yet? Of the top of my head, only Marinette, her mother, Fu and the kwamis haven't. And the tv host.

>Marinette, her mother
Oooh.

We didn't see the designs, so I don't count them yet.

That weather girl that competed with Aurore, the Wax museum curator, Alix's dad, Adrien's italian photographer, Alya's mom

Lila's mom and the fireman too.

The record label guy from Silencer and XY.

If you count the near success of Marinette and Sabine then only Fu and the tv host as far as characters that regularlly show up.

Ms. Mendelev

Ok just check wikipedia and it's easily like this
Production Order/Release Order:
>1. Chamaleon / 3
>2. Animaestro / 4
>3. Bakerix / 5
>4. Backwarder / 1
>5. Reflekdoll / 16 Is this some fucking joke?
>6. Weredad / 2
>7. Silencer / 6
>8. Oni-Chan / 10
>9. Miraculer / 11
>10. Oblivio / 7
>11. Desperada / 17 what the fuck?
>12. Chrismaster / 9
>13. Startrain / 20
>14. Kwamibuster / 22 (premiere until next month)
>15. Feast / 21 (today)
>16. Gamer 2.0 / 13
>17. Stormy Weather 2 / 8
>18. Ikari Gozen / 22 (offical premiere tomorrow but was shown at SDCC months back apparently)
>19. Timetagger / 12
>20. Party Crasher / 14 the one where at least 5 Miraculouses job to the disco boy
>21. The Puppeteer 2 / 15
>22. Cat Blanc / 23 (premiere in 2 months)
>23. Felix / 24
>24. Ladybug / 19 (last week, this plot won't be relevant until November)
>25. BoTM Part 1 Loveater
>26. BoTM Part 2 Miracle Queen (Season Finale December 1st)

She's going to be akumatized in Kwamibuster

Marinette should wear black more often IMO

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Why is that even? a fullbody swim suit?

>this is the first, and last, we'll ever see Marinette's skin tight leather biker suit

Why does Adrien have a banana suit? Is he the world's weirdest furry?

>Is he the world's weirdest furry?
After three seasons you finally realize?

Hey, dressing as a cat to fight crime is fine, but he owns a banana fursuit for private use.

Is there any good fanfic?

Pretty weird how the photographer as gone this far without getting akumatized, props to that guido

The farther you are from Marinette, the less likely you are to be akumatized.

After Sentibug, Lila has to know who Hawkmoth is, right? Why else would Gabriel ask her to frame Marinette?

Yes.

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He didn't ask her to frame Marinette. He just asked her to get bad influences away from his son, and called out Marinette (and Chloe in Miraculer) as bad influences. As far as Lila knows, Gabriel is just a concerned/overprotective parent that she's successfully manipulating to get what she wants. Just like all the other dumb adults in this show that buy her bullshit

Even so, Gabriel is clearly underestimating just how dangerous Lila can be. He thinks he can use her and then throw her away when she's no longer useful, but she thinks the same thing about him.

More like mr fucked up

Why was Alya's report on the Guardians a bad thing? Hawkmoth already knew about them and he'd have figured out about Feast anyway because Natalie reacted when it was unveiled.

If Fu broke it, then it should be healed by now, right?

Anything in latex is fine. And there are latex cycle suits...

>glorified recap episode
Cite?

Not really. He's already acknowledged her as extraordinary and talented, which is why he sought her out in the first place. He knows what she wants, why she wants it, and what to bribe her with. Lila, on the other hand, has no idea what she's gotten herself into. She underestimates him a lot more than he underestimates her.

But we now how it ends.

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It wasn't in context of this episode, but Marinette was right to be paranoid about it. As far as she knows, Hawkmoth doesn't have the ancient book and doesn't know that much about the order of the guardians. Anything that could possibly lead him to more information about that is potentially disastrous.

Being a super hero herself, she really should have known better and given the information to Ladybug directly rather than publishing it for the whole world to see.

Seriously what will happen with Peacock in this case? If Lila can steal Butterfly she can steal Peacock too. She is definitely not going to use it herself but should find someone who is dedicated enough to die while using it.

I want to EAT Marinette's ASS

She won't steal the Peacock. Rather, Nathalie will keep using it to the point where she can't ever shut it off or she'll die as she continues to fight in Gabriel's name. And if Lila really needs it, she'll more likely find some way to convert Nathalie herself to her side.

Do we really? Gabriel assumed that a different Hawkmoth in the future meant that he would lose, but Natalie pointed out that it might mean that he wins.

What if in going back in time and resetting the universe to save his wife, thus negating his need to ever become Hawkmoth, the universe balances itself out by selecting a new Hawkmoth in his place?

I don't expect "Villain wins" ending in Miraculous Ladybug.

>Rather, Nathalie will keep using it to the point where she can't ever shut it off
That's not how it seems to work. If anything, her condition will just degrade until she reaches Emilie's state. She's been forced to de transform already because it's made her too sick

Are you so sure? They're clearly setting him up as sympathetic, and sympathetic villains are sometimes allowed to get what they want if there's an even greater evil to fight

It's proven many times that no matter how noble his goal, he cares nothing for who he hurts to get it. He won't ever be allowed to win for that reason.

He's still a misanthrope who has little care for anyone besides Adrien Emile and Natalie.

It would be like a drug addict. The more you use it, the more your body gets used to the effects and so you need bigger fixes.

That's no more than just a your fun theory. Nothing implies that you can stop deteriorating for long by not detransforming.

Well, they can't have her die or go comatose, but they can't just have her stop being Mayura either since she's now an established threat.

Which is why he abandoned his second stint as scarlet moth as soon as Natalie coughed a little, despite the weeks of preparation it took? And why he abandoned the Hawkmoth persona altogether for a short while after Adrien was endangered in style Queen? And why he gave up his chance to get Ladybug's miraculous by ordering Gorzilla to release her so that she could save his son?

They've given Gabriel quite a few 'pet the dog' moments. Honestly, it could go either way at this point.

>they can't just have her stop being Mayura
Sure they can. I don't see her part in the story going on any longer than Gabriel's since he's the whole reason that she's into this.

As unlikely as it is, I can sooner see Gabriel taking on the Peacock miraculous if the Butterfly gets stolen from him than Natalie remaining in it permanently. We've already had a miraculous and swap with the kiddos and he's already shown in episodes like Simon Says and Style Queen that he'll risk his life under the right conditions.

This show is introducing a lot of young kids to a lot of fetishes, isn't it?

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The glasses really make it

He was always straight. Liking that choker wearing trap isnt gay

My 7 year old cousin watches this show and at this rate she'll probably be 20 by the time they get to season 8.

Are Startrain and Feast the latest ones out since Ladybug came out?

>he doesnt care for anyone besides his family
Wow what a jerk!

> doesn't care
and "I am going to kill someone" are different things.

Man how strong is Chloe's pussy game that Sabrina is so subservient to her?

Maybe not really that strong, Sabrina just hasn't tried it with anyone else and can't compare.

Uh yeah. Caring nothing about ruining lives and psychologically abusing anyone outside of your family is a pretty fucking terrible thing actually.

So... Feast pretty much revealed all of the show's lore. It was... kinda underwhelming.

1. Miraculous Guardians exist.
2. They recruit a new Guardian, Witcher-style (take a child away from the parents)
3. They make the new kid do a certain trial.
4. The new kid gets hungry .
5. The new kid creates a senti-monster to get him some food.
6. The senti-monster FUCKING EATS EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE (save for the new kid, one Miraculous box and one book)
7. The new kid randomly loses two Miraculous & the book.
8. The new kid moves on with his life, always on the run (until the senti-monster randomly becomes dormant for no reason).
9. Years later Gabriel Agreste finds the two Miraculous & the book.
10. Adrien's mom uses the Peacock Miraculous and dies or whatever.
11. The Origin episodes (1x25, 1x26) happen.

Meh.

Yep. To live, maybe.

wait, Ikari Gozen isn't out yet? but I've seen it.

sadly, Ladybug is allergic to bananas, but I am not

Convention showing leak

>Marinette and Adrien can scooter and bike faster than casual paced cars

????

weird, the quality was super good, so that's odd

If you wont sacrifice anything or anyone to protect your wife and son than you don't consider yourself a man.

Wow thats really lame

Maybe he should have tried sacrificing people to protect her BEFORE she fought whatever needed the Peacock Miraculous to be defeated.
Just a thought.

It doesn't mean you are not a villain, you shouldn't be rightfully hated by other people and shouldn't be thrown into jail to rot for you life for terrorism.

The portrayal of Paris isn't exactly realistic, I doubt any monks are burning themselves alive in the Miraculous version of Tibet.

Oh, okay. Fair enough.

I like people. I wouldn't ruin everyone else's lives just for my family. I wouldn't be able to live with myself.

>train young isolated child to protect cute fairy creatures
>DON'T motivate him by ever letting him hang out with these cute fairy creatures
I think the Order had it coming.

Gabriel did nothing wrong

he's probably going to fuck his secretary

Wayzz's expression when he sees Banana Noir is beautiful.

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Does anybody noticed Lila looks kinda pregnant in this shot?

He's still gay, but does this confirm him to be a bisexual?

As confirmed as we are going to get in a cartoon show. :(

Still "widening" the pose? Hernia for everyone, soon.

The Peacock Miraculous doesn't look good, but nor does it look like something that fell into lava.

Loving how Wayzz forgave Fu for his mistake. It's adorable.

So basically, the Agrestes decided to use their millions of dollars to hike through Tibet, and then one of them (I'm guessing Emilie) said, "Hey, you know what would be a great idea? Treasure-hunting next to LAVA!"
Chat's personality makes so much more sense now.

>Lila impregnated herself with a used condom she stole out of the Agrestes’ trash, thinking it was Adrien’s sperm
>it’s actually Gabriel’s from when he was pounding Nathalie earlier

YES

Do none of you understand that when you sit down you get stomach fat rolls?

>when Adrien eventually decides to man up and act against Lila’s bullshit, she reveals the pregnancy
>she tries to convince the class that he’s a deadbeat dad, and most of them believe it because they’re idiots
>that is, until Lila drags him onto the French version of Maury
>paternity test reveals Gabriel as the father, to the surprise of everyone
>Lila rolls with it, fakes crying and ‘reveals’ that Gabriel raped her
>Gabriel is attested for statutory rape despite his claims that he never actually had sex with Lila
>he leaves the Butterfly Miraculous to Adrien with instructions to continue his work as the new Hawk Moth
>Adrien and Nathalie are more concerned with getting custody of Lila’s child

I've never sat down in my life.

The show's animation is starting to look like something someone made in the Source Filmmaker.

There are episodes with better animation. It changes from episode to episode.

If it means we get more banana grins, I'm all all here for it.

like Nathalie wouldn't go yandere and crash the courtroom with Mayura's powers

>the two black guys dance in their transformations

hmm

Wha- are you trying to say dancing is racist?

I want off Lila's wild ride

Techno and break dancing are both super racist, user. Just like drinking milk and the ok hand sign.

Kimcartoon occasionally.

>this is the origin of Felix and why Gabriel looks so much older in the pv
Deepest lore

he is good, but his show is pure shit

The whole Natalie's health situation is really boring me out. We know they're not going to kill her and will not reach something bigger than probably she never being able to use a miraculous again or something like that, so it's on a point where it's just a plot device to help the heroes at the last possible second.

Gabriel, please dick Natalie and put her on the bench. It's getting a little annoying

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I want to protect that Chloe

Yes, but would you want to be seen as a good man, or a horrible man?

> Chat "annoying butt rape" Noir.

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>Nathalie tries to crash the court proceedings as Mayura but is stopped by Ladybug and Chat Noir
>Gabriel eventually does make it out of prison, and the time locked up somehow made him even colder than he already was
>Adrien and Nathalie failed to get custody from Lila
>the Agreste fashion line went under with all the bad publicity
>being raised by a narcissistic liar like Lila is the reason Felix is such a jaded asshole
>he hates her but doesn’t have any means of getting out from under her thumb
>Gabriel now not only wants to use the wish to revive Emilie, but also to retroactively remove Lila from existence so she doesn’t ruin his life

So, if Marinette has the Miracle Box now, are we going to see a kwami cookie party?

Not OP but your point is beautiful.

She doesn't have the box, she has just started training to have the box one day.

>We know they're not going to kill her
Do the words "minor character" mean anything to you? She is EXACTLY the sort of beloved-but-not-integral-to-the-plot character who gets kicked offstage in the finale so all the big names will get hyped for battle.

>for once he's more focused on the akuma than being horny
Our boy is growing up. *wipes tear*

Makes you wonder how often Kaalki is taken out just to be a short-term taxi service.

No wonder Marinette loved wielding the Cat Miraculous so much. It's just running around doing stupid shit and falling against various hard surfaces, which is already 90% of her life anyway.

the guy who had it on youtube got taken down

chked

>beloved-but-not-integral-to-the-plot character
I would agree on that before. However the dynamic with Gabriel/HM has become more prominent and even Adrien's concern with her on the last episode has made her a little bit more important. I think she's safe at the moment.

If I were to select a sacrifice to up the stakes I would pick Chloe if they went for a "last redeemable noble act" kinda thing. People know her identity and she loves that superhero life so much that it can be a deterrent to her.

However in the end I don't think this show will dare to openly kill a character, but I'm open to be surprised

>I would pick Chloe
Kek, that's a riot. It takes a really dark show to have the balls to kill off a kid character. Miraculous Ladybug, is not that show. Literally any adult character in the whole series, from Andre the icecream man to Mr. Pigeon, is infinitely more believable than that Chloe.

Where's Timetagger?

Paternity test is illegal in France and statutory rape is legal in France.

I'm a good man

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There was a second leak after the convention leak, though it cut off the top third of the screen for some reason.

If statutory rape is legal then it's not statutory rape by definition.

It was a server leak and they tried to hide it by clipping off the top part with the timer that was still included because it wasn't meant to be aired yet. Aka, they stole it from the server and tried to hide the evidence in a really bad way.

Speaking of airing, besides any surprise airings the next episode should be on the 12th.

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So will this finally shut up everyone thinking that Kwami's influence their personalities and that's why Ladybug is so serious and CN is so jokey?

Because they're specifically Miraculousless for much of this episode and still have their usual hero personalities.