Could Stark realistically weild a Green Lantern Ring? Not talking about the amalgam, just 616 Stark.
Could Stark realistically weild a Green Lantern Ring? Not talking about the amalgam, just 616 Stark
Green Lantern Ring standards are pretty high. Even Green Arrow can barely do a single construct.
Not even close. Dude's a pussy that can't handle a little liquor
No, he's far too insecure and hung up on his past failures to be a Green Lantern. If anything, he'd get a yellow ring.
>If anything, he'd get a yellow ring.
...Fuck, that actually makes sense.
Why yellow? I don’t exactly think “can spread fear” when I look at Stark.
>world is ending
>Tony:WELL FUCK, I GUESS I WILL JUST DRINK 20 GLASSES OF WHISKY AND THEN SHOT MYSELF IN THE HEAD
no
...As an Iron Fan: No. Not now.
Under Kaminski maybe.
Oddly enough that's true. Tony is canonically a lightweight.
Hmmm.
Doesn't it work if you're also absolutely terrified? You still fear a whole lot. I mean, aside from just instilling fear, shouldn't it logically work on you if you're generally an anxious person, always afraid, always scheming, always on edge? He's pretty much the epitome of "awww, shucks, better go drown myself in a bottle I'm fucking worthless sheeeiiiii---". Anxiety, worry, those are fearful emotions.
Is it really fair to use Hackman as a source, however.
He’s not really known for having will, just look at all his vices. Cap maybe?
>Doesn't it work if you're also absolutely terrified?
Nope.
The only actual all-gold armor I know of is Henry VIII's. ANd boy, was he a supreme autist. Unlucky as well, true, but Jesus Henry, take it easy.
Well, then, that's weird.
>Green works if you have a lot of will
>Blue if you have a lot of hope
>Orange if you're greey
>Saphire if you love a lot
Why does Yellow only work if you terrify others? Shouldn't it also work if you just generally "feel" fear? The same way you "feel" will, love, and all the rest?
No, the yellow ring doesn't run on the user's fear. It more or less works like a green ring. The difference is that yellow lanterns are bombarded with a sense of fear and hopelessness that they have to overcome, which is why the rings tend to select psychopaths, they're the only ones that can use them without going mad.
It’s mkre the fact your inspire rest fear, you have an aura that terrifies others
>The difference is that yellow lanterns are bombarded with a sense of fear and hopelessness that they have to overcome
But... overcoming fear is part of "suck mah giant Willpower Dick" GL rules.
>Now the time is here
>For Iron Man to spread fear
>Vengeance from the grave
>Kills the people he once saved
I don't know shit about Green Lantern mythos or any of the rings. Give me a rundown and I might be able to answer.
Parallax is a bit of a douche.
This, he lacks the willpower.
Depends on who’s doing the writing. I’d generally say yes because battling addiction really does require great willpower, since you’re literally battling your own brain’s uncontrollable dopamine lust. He’d constantly have stories about losing his ring then getting it back though and it’d get annoying.
Goes for Carol, too.
Cap’s gotta be a blue lantern. Though recently he’d have lost his ring due to his very own clone making him less of a symbol of hope.
The different rings don't all function exactly alike.
The indigo rings run on compassion, but they're not given to compassionate people, they're given to criminals as penance.
I guess, but shouldn't it also work the other way?
I suppose.
Hm, good point. But take, say Red. Someone who's hateful, but his anger is either nonexistent or just "cold", does he get a Red Lantern Ring? Because from what I gather you need to be a Rage-Fueled Anger-Management-Problems-Tier person to get one. What about jealous, petty, hateful fucks? And to go back to the original question, what about someone who's always "afraid"? Of things that could happen, might happen; whatever. Just a person with general anxiety. Jess Cruz is weilding a GL Ring.
Blue are powered by hope. They make a green twice as powerful if they're nearby, but cannot make actual constructs themselves without one. Cause "what good does hope do if you don't have the will to actually try". They also make red lanterns calm down. Blues can also heal wounds easily and that doesn't just apply to people/aliens. One guy healed his sun when it was dying by reversing it's age by billions of years.
Red rings are kinda magical, they make you rage all the time, gives you the power to vomit out projectile pure-rage, which can eat through constructs and kill black lanterns to a degree. The ring also replaces your heart, so you'll die if you remove it without another ring or are supergirl. You also lose some of your self control
Yellows are very similar to greens, but can be powerboosted by scaring people around you. They also lose power when near blue rings.
Indigo lanterns are also kinda magical. They have unique teleporting powers, can exorcise demons/ghosts for some reason. The ring also removes some/all of your individuality. Can heal others easily, as well.
Violet/Star Sapphires. Can see your true love anywhere in the universe, know when they are in danger. They also cannot be harmed by orange lanterns. Love > Greed apparently.
Orange lanterns for some reason have a stupid high recharge limit, like they can go to 100000% charge. They also have the ability to create "living" constructs of people killed by the wearer. Which is fitting because the ring makes you insane with greed and you'd almost never share it's power by making more rings. Which is why there is only one orange lantern. They can also absorb other rings energy very easily, except blue and violet.
White lanterns are powered by the embodiement of all life in the universe, capable of most anything, including restoring black lanterns to life.
Black rings are not really the same thing as the rest on the list, they just look similar. Revives someone who is dead/takes control of someone who has already died and came back e.g. Superman and turns them into a near unkillable zombie that will kill others to turn them into more black lanterns. Controlled by necron, embodiment of the absence of life.
Should also mention that all the different colors have the standard abilities of shields, construct creating, flight, speed, strength, translation etc etc
Green are pretty much the standard, field by willpower and an ability to overcome fear, a Green Lantern can do anything with their ring, just takes a little imagination and will.
>These fags haven't read the Yellow Lantern Shaggy saga
Yes, but difference is how the rings select users.
A Green Lantern could overcome a yellow ring no problem, but the rings specifically select people who come out of the ordeal all twisted and vengeful.
Yeah, Sinestro Corpsman also tend to be psycho like Kryb, who murdered GLs and kidnapped their kids.
He's wrong. Abin Sur's son was recruited because of his own cowardice rather than his ability to inspire fear in others, and wearing a yellow ring allowed Scarecrow to feel fear again for the first time after he'd deadened his own emotions through constant fear gas use.
Sinestro Corps recruits even train by being locked alone in a room naked with an uncharged ring. They're not allowed to leave until they can charge the ring off themselves.
>But take, say Red. Someone who's hateful, but his anger is either nonexistent or just "cold", does he get a Red Lantern Ring? Because from what I gather you need to be a Rage-Fueled Anger-Management-Problems-Tier person to get one
Red rings are another exception to the usual lantern rules in that they actively alter the user's personality into a rage monster to better suit the ring. But they generally go for people who are already like that to begin with.
Yellow and green are very close together.
Uh. The Guardians of the Universe - a race of beings who were as advanced as we were ten billion years ago, and attained practical godhood including immortality in short order, studied the Emotional Spectrum - seven emanations of emotional energy that can be harnessed and manipulated. One of them went rogue, deciding this path would lead to ruin, so he caused a monstrous disaster killing billions to steer them away, Didn't work. They created the Green Lantern corps, harnessing the power of the central and most stable 'emotion', namely will power. It has been the foundation of law and order throughout the universe for billions of years.
However, in recent times other corps' have arisen; the Yellow corps of fear, led by Sinestro, once the greatest Green Lantern; the Red corps of rage, led by Atrocitus, a victim of the great disaster I mentioned; the Orange "corps" of greed, which has only one member, the insane Larfleeze; the Blue corps of hope, who are saintly pacifists and healers, but make any Green lanterns near them much more powerful, while weakening Yellows; the Indigo corps of compassion, which is made up entirely of murderous sociopaths who are gradually being turned 'good' by their rings; and the Violet corps of (tough) love, which was created by the Zamarons, the female counterparts of the all-male Guardians. Each corps also has a totem beast which embodies its power and has a will all its own; Parallax, for instance, is the Yellow entity. Some corps' are enemies, some are allies. But it's always a mess when they meet up.
There's also the White Lantern of life itself, which created the emotional spectrum; and the Black Lantern, which is death, created by the spiteful and envious Lord of the Unliving.
Not everybody likes all this.
Also Scott Snyder added a stupid new Ultraviolet Lantern Corps which feeds off shame and is apparently bigger than every other Corps combined.
>Ultraviolet Lantern Corps which feeds off shame
Pack it up anons, we found Stark's faction.
Parker would be a good candidate but I don't exactly know what he'd do with constructs.
He'd work better as an Orange Lantern.
Based off this I would say Yellow and Green would potentially fit Tony the most. Maybe even Blue if we take what and says into consideration.
Orange
>Green Lantern Ring standards are pretty high.
>remembers that Teen Lantern is a thing
>remembers that Jessica is a thing
>remembers that Guy is a thing
Sure, casual, whatever you say.
>Implying Guy doesn’t have a shitload of willpower that matches Hal’s who only got the ring because he was closer
>Implying Jessica hasn’t earned her ring at this point
>Calling me a casual when he takes Bendis seriously
No
>remembers that Jessica is a thing
Jessice overcame a parasitic evil ring the fed on her fear. I think she earned her lantern.
>remembers that Guy is a thing
You got a problem with Guy fucking Gardner?
Based
>would make his armour out of many constructs so it's still a piece of his tech, just projected
>will still refuse to wear underpants
>always flying round making people uncomfortable in his tight, translucent green iron man armour
It'd be fantastic.
Teen Lantern doesn't have a ring, she's got a malfunctioning power battery and an energy absorbing gauntlet. Jessica started out as the new Power Ring and earned her GL ring by controlling and rejecting the Ring of Volthoom. Guy is nothing but willpower.
Also I just realized that Teen Lantern is nothing more than a race and gender swapped, heroic version of Black Hand's Silver Age version.
I know someone who likes Teen Lantern. What should I say to them?
Nothing I guess? Everyone’s got different taste, not like everything I like is of high quality
Nothing, because taste is subjective and you'll sound like a douchebag for bitching about something they like to their face.
>>will still refuse to wear underpants
What?
Tony Stark doesn't wear underwear. This is 616 canon.
TBF there was the one time he wore a thong under the armor.
Wasn't it Ults Tony who wears a red thong?
I-Is Tony Marvel's Jon Hamm? I mean, you go commando mostly if, y'know...
I've never read Ults so I wouldn't know. I was referring to the time his armor got destroyed by Molecule Man.
Either it's pretty magnum or he still has a pussy from being Jantron.
He's far too tempted by alcohol and even says it himself that he's always about to give in and at times he does give in.
Nah it's just small
So why would he go commando?
He’s got loads of insecurity issues. Maybe it’s his way of coping with “it’s okay to have an average dick and not an anaconda”?
I honestly feel like he’s probably got an average length dick, but it’s girthy. His oral is probably off the charts good.
Wait, wasn’t this an Iron Lantern thread?
Ask them how they feel about the character.
Other than Yea Forums, we really don't have much of an opinion on the character. As far as I know, personally, her only appealing trait is the pun of her name.
I think the only thing that would hold him back is his alcoholism, but he manages to reel that in and properly function as Iron Man, so..
What happened to the rest of your sentence?
It must have been taken to the Empty.
Serious question: What about Baz and G’nort?
G'Nort is basically a nepotism gag. That said, if he wasn't capable of using the ring, wouldn't he be dead by now?
>Wait, wasn’t this an Iron Lantern thread?
It always devolves into dick talk sooner or later with these threads for whatever reason.
THIS Say what you want about Snyder’s OC lantern but if it’s about releasing hidden emotions and loathing and shit then it fits Stark to a T
>wouldn’t he be dead by now
I mean
That’s a fair question
He went toe to toe with LARFLEEZE for a while in Larfleeze’s Nu52 mini until Larfleeze got serious on some other enemies, who happened to be the surviving gods of a universe rending conflict. It was a very lighthearted storyline but even the shitter GL had those gods wary of his power
Poor Tony
If a Peruvian girl can hack a GL ring, Stark could probably hack the mainframe and bootleg himself into a Parallax.
>nigga who can’t even will himself to put down the bottle wielding a Lantern ring
L M A O
But he has willed himself into putting down the bottle. Several times...
And gone back to it several times. Stark's real issue is that his first response to severe adversity is to pull back and isolate himself before spiraling downward. The man knows how to bounce back.
Cyber security isn't Tony's strong suit. There's a reason the last time he wanted to keep a secure copy of something he just fucking memorized it. Fucker gets hacked all the god damn time.
To be fair in his 80's origin Hal was also an alcoholic who got busted for drunk driving.
>>Implying Guy doesn’t have a shitload of willpower that matches Hal’s who only got the ring because he was closer
Guy probably has more.
People forget that once he got that hit of being a hero 90's guy did ANYTHING to stay a hero. He fought fucking Lobo barehanded. He stole Sinestro's ring. He became Warrior. Dude had an arc. Guy is loud and rude and crass but he has proven himself 10 gorillion times over.
>Alcoholic
>Strong willpower
You're an idiot.
All of this is untrue. He canonically is bad in the sack.
Pretend that you don't know about their opinions. There's no saving those who likes Benis hack OCs
He deserves an Indigo ring
Nok, motherfucker
most of that stuff is useless to him, though
sauce
He's probably talking about the single time he went off early because Gamora was too much. The whole thing was written by Bendis too. The only other time he's ever had performance issues was when he was paralyzed back in the 90s.
He would be fucking terrifying if he actually went off the reservation. For a guy who is supposedly always certain he is right, his touch is pretty light.
He didn't fuck up Captain America during Civil War, which is nice for a guy wearing the love child of a tank and a jet fighter.
He didn't fuck up the Inhumans after they blew up his tower, or Carol (which you know he could have) during Civil War 2.
I mean, fuck. When Ho Yinsen's son took over his brain in 'Execute Program' (one of the regrettably many candidates for the title 'worst Iron Man story of all time') he very easily murdered hundreds of people. He blasted a full tank division plus a legion of infantry to Hell all on his own.
And that's just with his regular armor! If Tony Stark had built Ultron, humanity would be extinct.
Tony spends about half his waking hours agonizing over the mistakes he made in the past. So no.
>Carol (which you know he could have)
Carol's probably about the worst person he could fight. She can absorb repulsor and unibeam blasts and tank his standard physical armament, and keep up with his flight speed. He's basically trying to outbrick a brick at a disadvantage if he takes on Carol in his normal armor.
Carol and Steve are people that are close to him and who he cares deeply for. We see how much he went off the deepend with Caps "death" after CW. Dude was literally hallucinating him and all the people he's failed. I can't see him ever wanting to lethally hurt either of them out of his free will.
Tony can interfere with her power. He's known that for ages: the communications dampener on top of Avengers Mansion already messed with her energy absorbtion power. And he had used it earlier during CW2. Blue Marvel had 'fixed' that, but I doubt Tony could not come up with something like that on the fly.
Exactly. And when he was inverted he did not become murderous, he just abused power and exploited people.
Odd how they never used Extremis 3.0 again since it could literally make people young, healthy and beautiful, with no ill side effects. I guess Franklin didn't include it when he recreated the universe.
No. Green rings requires a ridiculous amount of will power and Stark is way far of classify himself as a "willing" person.
Well, fucking Shaggy and Scooby used a yellow ring in Scooby-Doo team up (not the best example, but let's go with it), so cowardice kinda counts.
But, since Stark isn't a coward, much less someone who can instill fear (generally)...Even Peter Parker would make more sense as a yellow lantern.
Technically resisting an addiction involves constant exertion of willpower, especially when you’re in a high stress work environment like being Iron Man and the CEO of a tech company. So he could wield a ring, because his whole life post going cold turkey would realistically be a constant push of will versus his body/brain physically craving it.
He’d probably end up doing something silly with it though, because he’d find tinkering with it irresistible.
I dont care if he has willpower or not. I think his constructs will be really awesome and innovative.
>yellow
Tony is Orange. Through-and-through.
nah only one Marvel character can have a yellow ring
Baz should be yellow.
All he has to do is yell "Allahu Akbar" and watch the fear levels.
>Peter Parker would make more sense as a yellow lantern.
The reason he jokes is because he creeps people the fuck out if he doesn't.
What even is underneath that mask? A human face? Or far too many beady eyes... and articulated mandibles?
Imagine running into an alleyway with your gun and the daily takings of some corner shop... you hear a vague scraping... and overhead, crouching on the wall, dark against the faint evening light, a human-sized mass of limbs folded up in inhuman geometries, and in the middle, staring at you, blank, unblinking eyes far too large even for a huge head...
I bet a bunch of robbers pissed themselves before he started joking.
Of course it could be worse: the blank eyes starting... but then the featureless head splits open like a rotten melon revealing a row of icicle teeth.
A drop of alien saliva lands on your face.
Imbecile.
Wrong.
It really depends on the version of Stark. Amazing Adventures/vol 1 Stark? Fuck yes. I mean, remember what he endured with Mr Doll? Tons of willpower for that.
Current Stark? Nah, he's a punchline, no way.
In between Stark? Probably? Maybe?
MCU Stark. I think so, yeah. Not constantly, but when a situation called for it.
Also, at all the anons saying he could get a yellow, or an orange ring.
Yeah, yeah. But imagine. Stark with a sapphire ring.
I think it's safe to say that Tony is just too complex of a man to fit into the confines of a single Ring.
1544 looks sick
Well, I think each of these versions clearly fit or don't fit (or at least clearly only occasionally fit) a ring. It's just that stark, like most big 2 writers isn't a consistent existence.
Side note, I'm sad that as shit as the mcu is, mcu-stark is miles ahead of current 616 stark
>What even is underneath that mask? A human face?
Yes, he's lifted the bottom of it often enough to eat a hotdog or something that all of New York knows that Spider-Man is a young white guy.
I think he did it in court as well, and you know that's getting reported on.
I'd say it would be entirely up to writers preference and what aspects of Tony's character they'd like to highlight the most.
I hate how most current writers actively dislike Tony and want to mock him. Like, his womanizer stuff, he's more of a failure with women than not, nowadays. He always had troubles, but now he's mocked for them, as opposed to portrayed as sympathetic. Like, there are two famous pages of Stark not being able to get it up.
The old one, is him struggling post accident, not accepting it, wanting to do better, his partner being supportive and understanding.
The current one, is his partner going something along the lines of
>eh, whatever
and leaving him alone and humiliated.
If you don't like what makes a character a good target for escapism (which is what capecomics are mostly for) don't write the fucking character.
And again, I have to admit, the mcu treated him much better in that regard.
Yeah, BY NOW.
Welcome to the new world... it's not a nice world, but at least it's PC.
We need people admiring Stark to start writing him again. The current writers see straight male masculinity, when it's over the top and successful as something to be torn down and mocked. I think when we get the next gen of writers, that are folk admiring Stark, due to growing up with the mcu, we'll get better stuff.
>I hate how most current writers actively dislike Tony and want to mock him.
I can count maybe 4 writers total who actually like Tony and actively include him in the books they're writing for but Marvel refuses to hand his solo to them.
Isn't that artwork from Marvel Nemesis?
Simone did a really good job in the two issues she wrote and says once she researched the character she liked him, so i’d like to see her in charge. Tony benefits from strong emotional understanding when he’s being written and she did that well enough with what she had to work with.
Which writers? I'm aware that Stohl loves him.
Stohl
Ryan North
Kelly Thompson
And most recently Simone
The first 3 include him as a guest appearance in a lot of their stories.
Dr.Manhattan couldn’t even understand how it works Stark wouldn’t even understand shit about it
1540's just overcompensating
>Simone did a really good job in the two issues she wrote and says once she researched the character she liked him
I think that's the major problem with writers on Iron Man books now days. The research they do on the character, if any at all, is usually post-CW stuff and not any of the more classic stories or it comes from the MCU. I remember Zdarsky saying he rewatched the MCU Cap trilogy as a guide for writing Steve. While the differences between the two characters aren't as egregious like it is for Tony it's still a bad practice.
>hostess fruit pies?!
I'd take mcu Stark over post CW 616 Stark any time of the day.
I don't know if I agree with that since now days 616 Tony is often just a cheap imitation of MCU but I've accepted Tony's characterization pre-CW will never come back in its entirety.
Terrible writers who don’t like the character trying to imitate a nuanced and half improvised performance from an actor who loves the character is such a cancer on 616.
>Green Lantern Ring standards are pretty high
That's not an absolute and you know it. There's always hope. And as for 616vsMCU, I agree 616 now tries to imitate mcu, but it's a cheap, shallow imitations. Jokes and sillyness and so on. They miss a lot of the mcu core, that is very close to the 616 core as in
>guilt ridden, driven, at times overreaching brilliant man with personal issues that hides himself behind a public appearance armor
You'd think Marvel would capitalize on their characters new found fame in a constructive way but they decide to just throw their worst writers at him instead. Big name writers for their big name character is their logic, I guess. It's fine I'll just keep to my fanfics that care more about continuity and consistent characterization than professionals.
>That's not an absolute and you know it. There's always hope.
I know it's not an impossibility but the chances of it happening feel very low. Maybe it's just me being a natural pessimist.
>GL core
>Pretty high
Its a mediocre shitshow once you breach the needed willpower to wield the ring.
One of the selling points of Emerald Twilight is that the GL core is too weak to stop a rogue agent who is just slightly stronger.
What would an AU Justice League where they're all Lantern Ring users look like? Ignoring the characters deputised in Blackest Night because those were dumb
>Blue Superman
>Yellow Batman
>Indigo Wonder Woman
>Red Hawkman
Really struggling to pick an Orange leaguer. Plastic Man?
>Someone who's hateful, but his anger is either nonexistent or just "cold", does he get a Red Lantern Ring?
He gets an Ultraviolet Tattoo.
yeah seems like it’s just recolored though
>>guilt ridden, driven, at times overreaching brilliant man with personal issues that hides himself behind a public appearance armor
This is what annoys me the most about Slott's run. The whole Ship of Theseus concept would be really interesting to explore and fits in with how Tony is as a person at his core but the execution is extremely lacking. Effectively wasting a good plot that can't be explored by a better writer.
>Indigo Wonder Woman
CASUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL