Even the Russos say Sony is fucking up

Maybe Disney should not have been greedy

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Disney spics are worse than weebs

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Sony is gonna fuck up because the guy in charge is rothman, who ran fox during the x-men/daredevil/elektra/fantastic four years.
He doesnt know what the fuck hes doing.
It was his idea in the Wolverine origins film to sew Deadpool's mouth shut.
He's an absolute fucking moron.

I was mad at Sony at first, but then I learned that Disney was being (((greedy))). Then I finally saw the after credits scenes from far from home and now I'm mad at everyone.

thissed and /threadpilled

They said SNOY waa fucking up, you retard. Who even brought up Sony? You MCUcks will reach for any straw you can see. No wonder actual Marvel fans want you people dead.

>Disney studio hacks side with their Jewish paymasters
You don't say.

So are they actually going to make sequels? I don’t see how they can make it without the continuity being extremely retarded.

Yeah, Tom Holland has suggested that the SUMC Spidey movie he's signed on to do will be a sequel to Far from Home. So expect it to basically skirt the absolute fringes of legality when it comes to talking about past events.

Basically this.

Damn it Snoyboys.

Who gives a shit about them after they shat on their own movie.

When Disney was in the midst of buying Fox, the Russos half-joked that they might do a Secret Wars movie cuz they'll have so many characters.

It pisses me off Marvel doesn't have the rights to Spidey AND Venom so the symbiote can come from Battleworld in the movies for once.

But what pisses me off more is that now the Venom movies are going to be made to appear to be in continuity with the MCU what with Holland's Spidey in them, (even though the actual MCU won't acknowledge it,) and even if Marvel does get the rights back they'll probably just carry over from what happened in the Venom movies so as to make sure there are no continuity errors.

FPBP

Consume product.

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So given Sony have basically been sneaky and forced their own SUMC content into the MCU by virtue of retaining Holland, what does that make Venom/Morbius/Kraven/Nightwatch etc. in the canon stakes? Is their own Hollandman 3 a bootleg or in the same "kinda semi-canon but not really" ala Agents of SHIELD and the Netflix shows?

> It was his idea in the Wolverine origins film to sew Deadpool's mouth shut.
Honestly, I can see the reasoning, despite how stupid it is.

X-Men movies have to be PG13 so they can make more money. You can't have Deadpool's R-Rated mouth open. But he still needs something to him, so make him some sort of multi-power super freak.

>even the Russos
Use your brain OP

>even the people on disney's payroll say Sony is fucking up
yeah, no shit

The desperation

Sony IS making a mistake.
Yes, Disney was being ruthless asking for a 50% stake or bust, but they were in a perfect position to do that. Far From Home made Sony a billion dollars. Disney had proven that Sony was incompetent and that Disney could deliver a massively successful product.

Sony thinks they can do just as well on their own and they're wrong.

I'm pretty sure that almost everyone is taking Disney's side on this matter. When they really shouldn't

Disney has proved that they can slap together whatever garbage they want and people will flock to it. Say what you will about the DCCU or Sony but they never insulted the audience on the same level as Marvel has

I hate Sony more than than I hate the mouse (most of you probably dont remember their music CD rootkits) but let me play devil's advocate for a sec.

the last Sony spidey movie, the Amazing Spider-Man 2, made 700 million. Far from home made 1100 million. So yeah, the mouse movie made more but is it making *more-enough* for Sony to see the deal is a winner when the mouse is taking a percentage of that? Sony is surely looking at films like Aquaman and seeing that even mediocre comic films can pull a billion on their own, even without a massive franchise to back them, even with a *negative* from a failed franchise like the Justice League. Aquaman made a billion and the best the mouse could do with Spidey was 1.1bil? Honestly, the mouse Spidey movies have underperformed when films like Black Panther and Captain Marvel earn as much or more.

I hate Sony, but I don't think this is a bad business decision on the surface.

Now, I have zero faith in Sony making a decent Spidey film, they'll reboot it yet again and it'll stink up the box office.

Because the MCU has become this giant ubiquitous thing, with god knows how many people having grown up watching it. Of course they'll die on the hill for the Mouse.

>MY MASTERS ARE RIGHT, THEIR ENEMIES ARE WRONG
News at 11.

>Because the MCU has become this giant ubiquitous thing
Sounds like exactly the club you should belong to if you're in the business of making mass-appeal big budget superhero films.

Don't forget they had to re-release Far From Home to catch up with Aquaman

It's worth remembering that the 3 previous Spider-Man movies to the MCU stuff each cost more than The Avengers to produce.

Sony is really not terribly good at this. Venom only came in at a reasonably budget because it is a Syfy-tier movie with a single SFX, and Hardy's salary.

I'm not wading into the Sony vs Disney thing, but it's also worth noting that while Venom was a huge financial success thanks in part to China, it's not really known just how much of that Sony Pictures took home. The evil Chinese tech conglomerate Tencent had a financial stake in the film (big enough to appear in the opening splash screens and dictate that several scenes be shot in China), so they would've likely taken a decent cut from the box office even after the CCP took their bit from Chinese ticket sales.

It was very modestly budgeted. They didn't even bother CGI-ing a distinct villain for Venom, the only real special effect in the movie. They just re-textured Venom and ran with that. The rest of the movie is practically CW-tier. The Symbiote running around as goo looks hilariously bad.

Guys, it wasn't the 50% take that broke the deal. It was the 50% take AND Disney wasn't going to let Kevin Feige work on the Spidey films.

Snoy, formerly Cuhcks

Today I remind the autistic onions shills.

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Ironically, Daredevil and Fantastic Four back then blow most of the MCU out of the water.

>You can't have Deadpool's R-Rated mouth open.
Unless you read the comics from when his mouth was not R-Rated at all.

The Russos are retarded.

Jesus, what kind of shit taste do you have? Daredevil and FF don't blow anything out of the water, they're the lowest of the low.

quoting Stan Lee's daughter removes the integrity of the entire post.

it does not.

Honestly I'm glad Iron-Boy is finally going to become Spider-MAN

The mcu is doa without RDJ anyway.

>Disney employes saying it is bad the boss lost one of his properties.

>25% not good enough for disney
Shit that was greedy

Sony isnt exactly having the best pr with fans so far since they just alienated their weeb audience about a year ago after their relocation to california and the censorship of a bunch of weeb games that have made it impossible to generate hype for future Japanese titles

Wait, did that article actually refer Sony as snoy or is it an edit?

He's pointing out that her daughter treated Stan like shit in his final days by bullying him.

Disney's attempt at this was really weird and it takes a real shill not to see it.
>There is a deal
>Try to negotiate new deal where you have more stuff
>You don't offer more stuff on another area to the other party, like merch rights, or whatever
>Why don't they take this new inferior deal?
Like, why would they?

>Sony is making shit movies and paying for them alone
>Disney lets them borrow some of the MCU cred and creative producing help FOR FREE (Sony is still paying for them alone)
>movies suddenly super popular and make a ton of money
>Disney offers to cover 50% of the financial in exchange for 50% of the earnings of future movies
>this is somehow a bad deal according to Snoy shills

Sony was fucking up Spider-Man before. With the MCU deal they could print money and make instant hits. Sure, Disney got too greedy, but it wasn't like Sony was making hand over fist money with the property before.

Why does Disney think they are entitled to more than they did before? If you think the original deal was bad for Disney in the first place, okay, but that's on Disney for accepting it.

>Even the Russos
oh no, not the hacks!

Dude if you know anything about Stan's life after his wife died you'd know better.

Disney still gets 100% of merch sales, and now the profits have to be split, so yeah, it's a bad deal, dumb motherfucker
besides, due to the fucking 280 million marketing campaign for Far From Home, it may have profited less than Homecoming

>Why does Disney think they are entitled to more than they did before?
FFH made well over a billion.

Because the movies' success is seemingly the result of that MCU integration and creative help, and Disney wants the proper compensation. How much of that is true we'll see once Sony starts making movies on their own, but their previous track record is pointing to Disney's appraisal being correct.

>Disney still gets 100% of merch sales

That's SNOY'S fucking mistake. Those dumbasses should have never given away the merch rights. Any retard on the street will tell you to NEVER fuck with merchandising. That's the whole endgame of having a film to begin with: To advertise merch.

Snoy can't make proper business decisions and you trust them with Spider Man?

wow...not famous director joe russo

Disney gets 100% of the merch sales because they own 100% of the merch rights, Sony sold them to Marvel in 2011 to finance ASM, they weren't part of this deal and Disney will continue to profit off of merch from Sony's future Spider-Man movies.

>this is what stupid amerimutt actually believe

I don't think making a successful project means you're entitled to more of someone else's property.

>DCCU never insulted the audience on the same level as Marvel has
Nigger what are you smoking

Every spider-man movie ever made by Sony has been profitable. what are you smoking? Literally no Spider Film has flopped. Even the lowest grossing Spiderverse made back 4x it's budget.

They're one hudred percent being fed by Mouse PR like everything else involving Disney and the media.

It does if the success is a result of your work and you wouldn't even have a successful project without the help.

Exactly. Which is why Snoy needs to give the rights back to their rightful owner

I don't think you realise how much Sony spent on Amazing Spider-Man projects. They wanted to turn Amazing Spider-Man into a spiderverse. They wanted to have a seperate Sinister Six film and all sorts of crap.

>Every spider-man movie ever made by Sony has been profitable

TASM2 certainly was not profitable. They lost so much money.

Disney is a consumerist cult is why. I'm not even really shitposting, people revere Disney like they would any other religion at this point. The parks may as well be holy pilgrimage sites.

There is no right or wrong here, only what they agree on, if Sony was led by different people maybe they would've jumped on the chance to permanently integrate their property into the financial giant that is the MCU, right now they believe they can repeat the financial success of the MCU movies without them. Take for example actor agents, they do zero creative work in movies, yet they still get 10% of their client's earnings, because that's what they agreed the value of their service is. If all agents started appraising their contribution at 30%, actors would either have to agree, or get by without them.

I like how Snoy shills ITT keep saying everyone is worshipping Disney and yet I see more Snoy dicksucking here than ever for Disney

>Snoy
They will see the world burn before anyone proves them wrong.

>Men behind the Brand say McDonald's is better off making a Doritos deal

you think these things?

Americans are poor. Poverty breeds ignorance.

>Disney lackeys say the guys going against Disney are making a mistake
Wow. I'm shocked.

>100% Merch
>50% Box office
>Full control of the IP without actualy buying it back
may look like much, but we're talking about the Mouse™ here, He expects you to pay for three different streaming services to have all his content.

It's the only property making Sony Pictures any money, so I'd say they were smart making sure they keep the IP to themselves.

They own 100% of the merch anyway

It's not just Americans that worship Disney.

Because in comparison, Sony is the underdog. Still, people sucked Disney way more in the wake of the departure until people realized what really happened.
Both are faceless corporations that we should not humanize.

>Implying they're not forced to suck Mouse Dick.

It was the closest one to being non-profitable, but that was mostly due to an overextended promotional budget. Even then It still turned a profit. Just not as much as Sony was hoping for.

i hope sony keeps their foot on the mouse neck

the smear campaign from the latter is pathetic

True, but I would like to know what make Disney do this, the previous contract cover one more movie and Sony was going to give 30% of the demanded 50, why the "all or nothing" bullshit?

>Because in comparison, Sony is the underdog.
Sony is a self made underdog because they have churned out so much shit over recent years.

Ghostbusters? They built a WHOLE department called Ghost Corps to build a Ghosbusters universe and needed like a $1 billion dollars just to break even on that movie because of costs, RIDICULOUS marketing and this universe building.

My only question is how long till Disney shits on spidey comics like they did to the xmen when fox had the film rights? I mean it's been a whiles since spidey was good, but just imagine how bad it could become. We are talking schism levels of bad, avx bad, Bobby turning gay bad.

a decade of long of one more days

Who the hell is Snoy and why should I care?

THIS >those cunts

They are pretty much talentless hacks. Take the same plot and essentially the same movie but make say Civil War take place with the actors from the Star Trek reboot set in the Valient cinematic universe and that movie doesn't break $500M world wide. Likewise for IW or Endgame.

Their opinion is no more valid that some user here.

>They are pretty much talentless hacks.
>talentless hacks

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So, Sony screwed over Disney. Not like Disney haven't been fucking other companies before or anything..

OK, they're just hacks. Better?

>DCfucks had to recycle the Flopzam meme with Marvel proprieties since they can't have a win of their own

Lol this is so fucking SAD.

Should we even care?

But Sony is the rightful owner of the movie rights. And Sony hasn't done a particularly successful project with them. You make no sense. Sony doesn't fit that at all.
But Disney made a successful project. Not Sony. But Disney making a successful project has no reason to entitle them to Sony's properties.

Except its not just a financial stake, by giving Disney 50% of producing stake, they also lose all autonomy over the characters and potential spin offs. It applies to spin off series such as the spider verse, venom, etc.

Disney made less money at the box office with both Spider-Man movies than WB made with Shazam

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So, the big complaint about Holland Spidey is that he's too tied to Tony Stark to the point of being Iron Boy. That he's not his own character at all.
Yet now that Sony is out of the MCU game, a lot of people are saying they DON'T need to reboot.
How exactly does that work? If he's Iron Boy then removing the Iron Man influence just creates a huge void in the narrative and characterization. If he's not Iron Boy, then the complainers lose their biggest argument.
Are people just trying to have it both ways?

>But Disney made a successful project. Not Sony. But Disney making a successful project has no reason to entitle them to Sony's properties.
I was referring I Disney and defending them. Calm down.

fpbp. fuck the mouse and fuck mcu drones

Please no more Spidey movies

FPBP, any retard that says otherwise doesn't understand a 50/50 on profits would essentially force them to have to make double the budget just to make even before they see profits

I know, but you missed the point.
1.Sony owns movie rights.
2.Disney makes a successful project.
3???
4.Disney is entitled to Sony's movie rights.

My point is, this is a dumb argument. Even if Disney is succsessful.

*Snoy

Snoy's Joy and Deploy(Formerly Roy's)

Spider-Man doesn't needs the MCU... but MCU Spider-Man needs the MCU, you know why? because Marvel Studios totally fucked the character, he's too attached to the MCU and his secondary characters are shit.

You can blame Sony, but it's Marvel Studios fault that this Spider-Man can't survive without "muh Mr Stark, muh team-up with other heroes" come on! we are talking about Spider-Man, the Marvel character with more stories and better secondary characters and rogue gallery, how the fuck you made him so dependant of the MCU? how?

>Sony was right.

FPBP

"The guy who works for Marvel says the thing that is good for Marvel"
fixed the headline for you

Sony still paid for that shit. Sony paid Feige a salary, not Disney. And Disney got to use Spider-Man which really they didn't need as he could have been cut out of CW and was not at all needed in IW or Endgame.

>Snoy

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He was needed for phase 4 as he was the only one capable of becoming someone who could carry a franchise out of the people who still remain. Disney is probably begging RDJ and Evans to come back now.

*Sneed

Let's see, disney wanted 50% of the profits while footing half the movie bill while sony still pays the other half and does the distribution costs for any movie with spiderman in them. If I was sony I would of siad no also. Disney needed spiderman for there next phase of movies. They had alot more to lose than sony. Disney got greedy. They didn't think sony would say no. What kind of greedy idiots does disney have working for them? Outside of cap and iron man, they don't have anyone sides spidey to carry the movies. The people siding with disney over this are completely ignorant and are blinded by company loyalty. I agree sony doesn't know how to make good spider man movies except for the first two, but that was more due to sami raimi. The 3rd one suffered heavily due to studio interference. But sony saw they could make more of a profit on their own than letting disney take half of the movie profits I guess. And really there is very little chance of disney buying out sony pictures. It would be to expensive and the government would probably step in and say no.

sorry sweetie, blood is thicker than water

unlike the rest of the MCU, Spider-Man is strong on his own, and can build an entire "cinematic universe" around him and his characters alone

Sony offered 25% to Disney and Disney still said no.

>sony always wins
nice

indeed

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>Director says Sony fucked up while Disney's cock rests gently on their tonsils

Spiderman only interacted with Tony.

The most cringe inducing moment in Endgame is when Tony tells Cap (who only met Parker for a few minutes), "I lost the kid", as if all the other people who died didn't matter.

This is true in the comics, but much less so in the MCU, where Black Panther, Thor, Doctor Strange, Scarlet Witch, and the Guardians are still present.

I can see Shiang Chi being a hit if they nail it.

>destroys the mouse

Niggers lets be real here , do you enjoy the safe as fuck MCU where nothing interesting and changing happens and every single minute you need to have quips?

>So this is civil war , we have this amazing oportunity to make a neat hero vs gober....NO! EVERYTHING IS JUST A MISUNDERSTANDING LETS MAKE AVENGERS HAVE A LITTLE FIGHT UNTIL SOMETHING GOES WRONG XDDD!!

Mousefags need to be GASSED

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This is true in the comics, but much less so in the MCU, where Black Panther, Thor, Doctor Strange, Scarlet Witch, and the Guardians are still present.

I can see Shiang Chi being a hit if they nail it.

Having Tony make Spidey his legacy was a fucking dumb move by the Russo's as they knew Sony might not renew the deal.

>do you enjoy the safe as fuck MCU where nothing interesting and changing happens and every single minute you need to have quips?
Yes, because DCucks are still seething about BvS being shit

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>BvS being shit
And? thats snyder "elseworld is canon only" shit we are talking about the absolute mediocrity that is the MCU formula.

Mysterio was amazing but he was trapped in a mediocre , safe as fuck movie.
Holland doesn't feel like Peter it feels like he is your average MCUfag self insert.

I mean, this is pretty much correct. They own a bunch of superheroes - Nightwatch, Spider-Gwen, Miles, Silk, Scarlet Spider, Mayday, Jackpot, Anya Corazon... and ton of antiheroes like Silver Sable, Venom, Antivenom - I bet they also own Solo and Paladin.

For that matter, I wonder if they own rights to superheroic identities of Harry Osborn - New Goblin and American Son.

>I'm totally not butthurt

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>shitposting only
oh well

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I'm one of those sick fucks that kinda enjoyed Daredevil but damn you're wrong.

Really? Even a couple of guys with a tremendous bias toward the MCU think that? Well, I guess that settles it then.

In other news, even Bill Gates thinks you should buy Microsoft computers. Of all people.

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