How come everytime a western cartoon has decent animation, it's always because a japanese guest animator did it? What the fuck are american art schools teaching?
How come everytime a western cartoon has decent animation, it's always because a japanese guest animator did it...
Leo Lewis
Carter Reed
>What the fuck are american art schools teaching?
How to be as cheap as possible, because TV networks are trying to prolong the heat death of their universe by cutting spending.
Camden Gomez
>It’s another “LUL EAST IS BETTER THAN WEST” thread.
Please piss off.
Christopher Rogers
Because anime is slave labor and even that industry is getting worse. Animation quality has dropped considerably over the past few years.
Robert Wood
West focuses on distinct character design more than the East. Japan can make up for slightly better animation due to different animation tactics based around their copy/paste character design process
Asher Perez
California. People say CalArts is a meme but that's because they never lived in California. The people who grow up here will go on to work in the industry since they all have industry friends and that is terrible because they are drugged up nervous wrecks after all of the hippieshit moms smoked weed while they were in the womb.
Austin Johnson
You and I both know that these threads are made so people can post webms. Now contribute please
Jaxon Reyes
Because talented western animators aren't dumb enough to waste their talents on TV animation and work for high budget movies.
Christopher Reyes
I enjoyed the entire sequence in the movie with her but you gotta be fucking retarded if you think that is good animation.
Nolan Adams
Animation is weird because in America you're learning to animate by yourself and in a small group, but the instant you make it "Big" the studio shows you your freshly made Korean slaves or Japanese studio to rent out.
Ayden Martinez
I think this is more of a "Goddammit, I'm getting sick of any good animation actually being revealed to be outsourced because we can no longer get classically trained animators in the States since that profession has died" venting thread.
There COULD be good American animators if these people weren't basically forced out of their field and into storyboarding instead. There's probably, what, 300 people total in the entire country that are 2D animators for the entire industry? And I'm willing to bet half of those people work in commercial.
Gavin Watson
why is this supposed to be notable, it's more than 6 fps or so?
Justin Bennett
>I enjoyed this
>fuck you it's bad
Ethan Anderson
Probably for the same reason Japanese live-action movies have absolute garbage CGI.
Charles Martin
man, Justin Nichols is great
Jose Rodriguez
Not him but it was really jerky and felt like it needed more inbetween frames to capture the movement realistically
It was an improvement over the television show, but it didn't feel like movie quality.
The choreography was pretty damn good but the animation itself needed polish.
Julian Campbell
who gives a shit about CGI animation though
Brayden Baker
>always a japanese animator
Daniel Garcia
Anime doesn't usually look that good either. You took a shot from probably the best show airing right now that has animation like that probably about 2% of the time.
Benjamin Powell
>How come everytime a western cartoon has decent animation
Because animation has to be fluid an consistend, that's how it is supposed to be done, and that's why everyone despise the limited animation techniques introduced by Hanna Barbera and only nips still used it today, because otherwise they can't produce such amount of cartoons to satisfy the animation market only in japan.
Even the most generic bland and boring canadian cartoon doesn't use limited animation.
Yeah, same, I really like that sequence, but the smear frames are kinda weak, if you start paying enough attention you'd notice the action is not really that fluid, not to mention CG basically don't do a shit the whole sequence.
>The choreography was pretty damn good but the animation itself needed polish.
They haired the same guy who made the "mindful education" sequence, and that scene is not impresive at all, so maybe it's a novice animator.
Then I must ask, what do you consider good animation?
Benjamin Reyes
Japanese animators are really good at keyframes and technical aspects of animation, but they really suck at timing and inbetweens. Things are always too fast or too slow and clunky, even though the individual drawings are fantastic.
Elijah Miller
hate to break it to you sweetie, but there's a reason"traditional" animation is called that. Just like there's a reason why it's gradually going away.
Michael Diaz
Woah. Those Charmin commercials got really hardcore over time.
Jonathan Reyes
>gradually going away
traditional animation will literally never die as long as people can animate or have the will to animate, dumbass
Logan Rodriguez
>animation has to be fluid an consistend, that's how it is supposed to be done
Connor Brown
God, I knew it.
I knew that if people kept posting still frames of smears like some fucking meme that some underage fucknut would actually think that they're a sign of poor animation.
I fucking hate kids.
Christian Morris
Same goes for photography using mechanical cameras and film. What's your point?
Nicholas Edwards
CGI animation is garbage, that's all I'm saying.
Brody Green
I don't know what you are implying here. Do you think smears and an sign of not fluid animation? Do you know it's totally the opposite?
Do you even know what's traditional animation?
Nolan Davis
The second western animators are willing to work for 25K a year, they will be hired to make this same shit for tv shows too.
Julian Ramirez
what are you on about? I was using Dover Boys as a positive example of great animation that doesn't have to be fluid to be good.
Nathaniel Myers
why does Yea Forums know so little about animation production?
Luis Morales
Elaborate. Show us your knowledge.
Jonathan Reed
At this point it's a reflex to you. CGI has been trash for most of your life and for most of the time it's been used in film and TV. Now CGI is actually better than a great deal of traditional animation, but because you recognize it as being CGI, you automatically disregard it because it doesn't look like the animation you grew-up with it. Kids growing-up now won't have that bias, so they'll be able to recognize better animation and you'll simply tell them that they are wrong. At best you'll come up with an excuse along the lines of it taking more time/money/effort to make traditional animation look as good, but they won't care. Most people don't care because the end result is all that matters.