The Dark Crystal

>they did with SkekTuc and UrBer
The what?

>What would you like to see on season 2?
Garthim army and scared gelflings.

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Tuca and Bertie, I assume
Show that some people here seem to have liked a lot that got canned rather quickly. It has bird people for protags

They used to do three. Seems to be two now. But this shit is pricey. But every single hint of merch seems to be selling crazy fast. So fuck man, who knows.

>implying user isn't Skeksil

I want Skekshod to show up and be very charismatic and suave, and then the Emperor brains him in the head so hard he acquires a speaking disorder.

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That's not skekMal, the chad skeksis.
I would however, lovingly caress skekOk's cock

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I keked. Thank you user.

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This thread needs more PODLING JUSTITIA

Would a human be about as tall as a Landstrider?

>SkekSo beat him retarded
Damn

Season opens with Sigourney Weaver doing a quick recap narration and talking about how after the battle of Stone-in-the-Wood, the Gelfling marched on the Castle of the Crystal and victory seemed 'all but assured'. Then cut to Gelfling getting fucking MASSACRED by Garthim and the survivors being forced to retreat.

Cue title card.

Tuca and Bertie was canned because the animators unionized.

The remaining Skeksis get summoned back because it's an emergency. The Garthim are updated (they must be changed in some way because there don't seem to be a lot of Gruenak left). More lore.

Humans are in the range of skeksis. Unless you're very tall one would probably stand higher if not hunched

I would love that. I was bothered by they just letting the Skeks retreat without finishing them off right there where they were outnumbered and surrounded by 7 or 8 armies.

That's a problem though. How the fuck can they make more than the one Garthim? They only had the one Arathim corpse. Yes they can get more of those, but they only had one. But much more importantly, it seems Garthim's muscle tissues are made from Gruenak, and there are no more Gruenak's. Also the exact way Garathim are animated is vague as hell, I think because the writers have noidea how that would work. Should have had them infused with a bit of Darkening or something like that.

Skeksis are like three times the size of gelflings, who are two to three feet tall.
Landstriders have some height on skeksis, which means they tower over us.

I second seeing more Skeksis.

Also would like to see a flashback/scene of skekGra and the other Skeksis (like him asking them to unify) and more character development put into Rian.

Episode 7 is the best of the whole season. Do you agree?

Skektek can bring dead things back from the dead better than Frankenstein, I bet he can clone them no problem.

I want those two to teach Hup some lore then he comes in to save everyones ass riding Lore. A wise stone beast riding valiant paladin who don't take no shit.

Skeksis are about to lose, until Skekung and HIS DEADLY GARTHIM change the tides of the battle, accompanied by the other absentee Skeksis, like Skekshod and Skekna and Skekli

Oh yes, I would LOVE to see the Skeks during the early period, when they weren´t so corrupted and actualy could be friends with others - and the Mystiques were more active.

I wanna see Ogra and Tek/Mal interacting in their earlier years.

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When did he bring the actual dead back? Honestly, did I forget something?

And yeah, some kind of cloning. Taking a sample and doing... something.

The Garathim are now Aura Battler's too. Which is neat.

>Should have had them infused with a bit of Darkening or something like that
Signs point to that. The ones seen at the end of the season have distinct light blue eyes, rather than purple. Something will happen to put the Darkening into them

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Do we know for a fact they were criminals? I'm reading Creation Myths and Raunip THINKS they are, but he just knows they were exiled. For all we know they were on some sort of normal UrSkek pilgrimage thing. (Unless you know more.)

>the actual dead back?
At the moment that's precisely what the Garthim are. Stitched together gruenak and arathim pieces somehow reanimated with Crystal energy

Well I meant to animate them at all.

....Is he using Gelfling Essence to animate that first one? Jesus that's a total Frankenstein Fuck Show of a holocaust tool.

I thought the Gruenak and the Arathim were dead.

Well that's what I mean. He's animated pieces in some way, but what's that... spark... of life or whatever shadow of it they have is sort of ambiguous.

>TFW the first one recover it´s memmories and turn against the skeks and this is why they have to start doing the purple ones

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Gruenaks are mostly gone, no clear confirmation that they're completely extinct, given the two we see were found well after they were thought gone
For now the arathim still live since they made their alliance with the gelfling. But that could very well change

Yeah, they were. But my point is neither seem to be the controlling will of the Garthim. So I don't exactly want to call that magic cyborg death machine something brought back from the dead.

A leather coat isn't a cow brought back from the grave just because that skin still keeps things warm.

Ah I see

I suppose nothing in the vein you describe, bringing back someone wholesale as they WERE. If that were possible the skeksis would have little to fear

>Gruenak
>Gelfling
>Arathim
>Podling
>Makrak
Thra seems like a hotbed for sentient species. Do you think there might be more we don't know about? Do we know if there's other continents?

I want Hup to be turned into the first podling slave

>Makrak.
Where do I know that name? I just looked them up, and I haven't read that far into Creation Myths yet, but I know that name.

Also,
>Fireling

I keep on expecting some reference to them when they dive into caves for lava tubes or whatever.

>A leather coat isn't a cow brought back from the grave just because that skin still keeps things warm.
This is why I brought up Frankenstein, he's bringing a mix of dead things to life.

if I recall correctly the world of thra is canonically quite small - not near earth-sized.

I just want the Skeksis to become younger when they drink essence. It doesn't even have to be dramatic, just something to show that the essence does something.

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I didn't list Firelings because they're just Gelfling offshoots, and I know a few people wish they weren't canon

>I keep on expecting some reference to them when they dive into caves for lava tubes or whatever.
the Innermost Sun is apparently where Heretic and wanderer created the Glaive, and there are the tunnels right beneath where those two had set up their home, so it's possible that they've seen them if they exist (yet)

Okay, a better analogy, a leather coat sewn onto your skin doesn't make the cow alive again.

He's using those pieces to animate something, but I don't think it should be phrased as THOSE things back to life. The Garthim are something new and horrible.

Is Gonzo a Skeksis?

I've noticed that the Dark Crystal movie and show lends itself a lot to naming conventions. With Gruenak+Arathim=Garthim. So is it also possible that a substitute is Gelfling Corpses+Arathim since Gruenaks are kind of hard to come by now

Bad user

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I haven't read Power yet. After Creation Myths. I didn't know that. Huh. Neat.

At first I thought Innermost Sun referred to the closest of the three in orbit. But that Hollow Earth thing makes more sense. It sounds like it is a slight reference to them, much like Raunip got a small mention.

reminder

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What Muppet is his Ur half?

I just realized that this is a callback to when Skekung met Skeksil before they went to the emperor's deathbed, they were both hissing.

>I haven't read Power yet. After Creation Myths. I didn't know that. Huh. Neat.
I would recommend Power just as a 'what if' kind of thing. It's a screenplay that never got made and definitely feels like that. Its sequel, Beneath the Dark Crystal, is definitely of lower quality across the board.

How WOULD you go about making a Dark Crystal sequel without the UrSkeks (And their halves of course) and Firelings anyway?
Inter-Gelfling war would be pointless and contradict the series' message. And setting up yet another alien species to antagonize would be redundant.

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When gonzo dies scooter dies too

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I'd jingle Juni's jangles

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Can Podlings not speak 'English' properly? It seems like in every media they appear in, they usually stick to the Podling tongue and only repeat certain English phrases.

How does he eat with those teeth?

frontal nudity

Spurrier is a good writer. But a movie would not be 12 issues long. I bet he got handed six issues worth of rough script and told to make it 12.

I've never heard of the guy who did Beneath. So that'll be.... yeah.

Still, I like the art as I've flipped through it. Is it as rich and detailed as Froud? No. Is it nice, somewhat whimsical fantasy art? Sure. I'm good with it. Plus I've been jonesing for fantasy comics. So I'm in the right mood on a few levels.

>At first I thought Innermost Sun referred to the closest of the three in orbit
Me too, but then I realized that it would take rather the feat for them to get into space much less one of the suns and survive
Of course going into fire land is a rather deadly prospect but must be more possible

I was expecting Seladon to be stripped naked and was most displeased.

SkekZok is a size queen and skekEkt is a pillow princess.

It made sense in the original film. They hadn't seen another Gelfling since Kira was a baby. Years.

In the show it's really very strange. They did a few strange things with the Podling's in the show. Like make them very literally retarded.

Many trine after the movie disillusioned Podling youth turn to radical notions of neo-skeksisism as an alternative to the current government. It's a daring race against time as Gelfling intelligence works to put down the uprising and defeat their leader SkekPodwho is three podlings in a coat

Skeksis frontal nudity, we already got three-headed piss streams.

I was thinking (When I still thought it was a star in space.) that it was some sort of metaphorical thing. Like they did magic shit to use the light from that sun in the Glaive's forging. But what actually happens makes a heck of a lot more sense.

I would make future stories double down on the theme about darkness within everything. After the UrSkeks leave Thra, they've changed it forever. The Darkness came to Thra and it is now a part of it. Like the UrSkeks needed to learn that darkness was within them, but did not control them, I would have future villains be a reflection of that. A Thra-born threat. Or maybe have another species question why the Gelfling should be the masters of the Crystal and delve into that mythology a bit more. There also doesn't need to be big, sweeping epics set in the world all the time. Following a Podling like Hup would be pretty interesting, but he'd have to speak in English so that would be a bit challenging.

>racism is wrong, we're all the same on the inside
>also every podling except Hup is a disgusting retard
Hmm

Just do Power of but with a more refined script.

skeksis mocking the tiny gelfling dick

None of the other skeksis have teeth that can be really be used to chew stuff, so he probably just eats like they do, but places food a bit farther into the mouth so it doesn't get stuck in that trap.

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Different times. For their problems Skeksis did mostly deal with the worst of the dangerous creatures in the wild so the podlings would have less reason to BE serious
Still I see them as less outright stupid (except for perhaps a few absolute invalids) and more simple and carefree. There's obviously some out there with more ability and ambition like Hup

Only fix I have is that the Podling's are a simple people. Like kind of dumb Hobbits. And that was a village of their mentally handicapped citizens. Or like, their youth and elderly while the rest were working their normal jobs.

Still, no idea why they can't talk Gelfling. Maybe their throats literally can't make those sounds, and we just have to roll with that because TV?

TRIAL BY TRIGLAIVE!

Oh I agree they're a simple people. Like Muppet Hobbits really. But that village was goddamn SPECIAL man.

Still, solutions

>Kensho is a descendant of Kira and Jen
>More depth about the Gelfling return
>Make Thurma more sympathetic
>Skeksis return either has to be scrapped or retooled entirely, doesn't make sense as written
>Jen and Kira are not aloof masters of the Crystal
what else needs to be changed?

I feel like the podlings in the deterge were a either a specific instance of retards or children, or they were just locals fucking with the snobbier folk when given the opportunity.
Hup, Aughra's assistant, and the castle servants all seemed pretty well-adjusted. The locals in the bar didn't act too different from the ones in the film either.

Kensho becomes my husbando

Beneath is alright if you really want to know what happens to the OCs from Power. But its art is different, Gelflings are far more human like.

>try to get fellow artfag nerd into the show
>at the very least the effects are amazing
>get told they're not into the 80s nostalgia trend
>mfw

The show is a love letter to Jim Henson and displays nothing but love and excitement for the artform.

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By sticking his food past the cluster of teeth

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I want to see some coarse felt Kermit cock

The Age of Resistence showrunner already talked about addressing the genocide in some way. Something like the movie was part of the story . So I suspect a sequel wouldn't even have to worry about that. I think AoR will handle that itself in time.

I think the dirty Poglins are just a thing on that village, like a cultural thing.

I'll get there after Creation Myths. I suspect Yea Forums is being especially harsh on the two series, because the general opinion I've seen is much more positive. Knowing myself, I'll land in the middle. I'll like core ideas, have problems with execution, etc.

>jazz hands

That is essentially what I think of the series. I liked certain ideas but found it lacking in execution.

>but Emperor he can't be worth that much!
>it says here he doesn't even have enough 'good boy points' for these things called 'tendies'!

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>wageslave out in sun all day
>have to struggle not to say I'm uchi uchi thirsty when some rando asks how I'm doing

Second season will definitely happen. They wouldn't make a Garthim puppet for just one scene and a seconds-long flashback/flashforward.

>Wageslave out in sun all day
You're a real life podling

More effort put into Rian

>And thus the Chamberlain conspires with the Scientist to replace Essence with Tendies
>Soon every Skeksis is whining for their Tendies

Hey, we are getting a 12 issue series about Ordon and Fara in the Aritham War. So that could be fun.

>Deet Sheevs a Skeksis so hard they explode
>The Gelfling all witness this
>None of them even notice when she wanders off or think to thank her
Deet is suffering

Nebrie tendies

>Scientist has to replace his penises with hydraulic ones when he runs out of tendies and can only serve nuggies

That might give us a look at when Skeksis were more "benevolent" like some anons here have been wanting to see.

Were the Dark Crystal comics storytimed on Yea Forums before the release of the show? If so, does anybody have a link?

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What will it be called? When's it out?

>replace Essence with Tendies
>Not having Essence Glazed Tendies

They would if they had hope.

Still, a huge cost of the show had to be simply creating all of those sets and characters. I mean they made Aughra's orrery and used it for one scene! I have to figure a second season would be MUCH cheaper to produce.

They need enough Garathim for a battle scene and three or four more Skeksis, maybe a few Mystics. That's and a bit more. Not nearly as bad as starting up from scratch.

>NOW YOU FUCKED UP
>YOU HAVE FUCKED UP NOW

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If the mystics were so good why didn't they commit suicide like Archer? What's so great about being UrSkeks that entire species have to be genocided so that it can happen

Hup is a fucking chad

It was only a generation before on a 950 slide into where they are now. I doubt they'll be too much different. It's 12 issues again. So how they'll tease how evil the Skeksis really are and so forth will be... interesting. And worrying.

Imaginatively, Age of Resistance. I think it starts in like a month.

They are not pure good, but are the lighter side of a coin. They are also living creatures, and those don't generally like to die.

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I think they're just sort of cowardly and unmotivated. Too much of their drive went to the Skeksis. Archer/Hunter just had a fucking ton of will and motivation. Hence why Hunter was the most brutal and mobile Skeksis, and Archer actually had some pep to himself.

They decided to wait 1000 trine and then go to the castle to fuse with the Skeksis and become Urskeks again.

I was shocked at how many different Gelfling puppets there were.

What's it taste like?

>deet will never sit directly on your lap at a bar because all of the seats are full

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>deet will never complain angrily about you entering her into the midget throwing contest before flying away in a huff

Death is un-American.

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It looked soapy so it probably tastes like bathwater

Sadly, no.
The only people who cared for this franchise on Yea Forums before the show aired were our resident puppetfriends, and those threads usually just morphed into general puppet threads. There was almost no real hype for the show at all, or it was insanely cautious and muted. Most thought it'd overdo the CGI, others looked at the track record of the writers and director and worried, others thought the celeb casting was just forced and they'd phone it in wasting money that could have been spent elsewhere. And of course, there's the fact the 80s nostalgia trend has been fucking annoying and it touching Jim Henson's definitive passion project was a big source of ire. And with the trailer being as mediocre as it was, everyone was bracing for just one big "meh".
How wrong we all were.

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The POINT is that DRIVE and ACTION were traits that the Skeks ended up with - and to make things worse, PATIENCE was the trait that mystics got.

So they barely have any choice, they were created with no drive or initiative, and with enough patience to wait for the "right time". It is made clear that being a Mystic is as much of a prison as being a Skek - you are literaly condemned to being a passive stoner lizard. Remmeber the scene on the movie where one of them exploded, and the others paid barely any attention?

Archer is different because Skekmal is ALSO different - both were very uncommon for their respective kins, and the same goes for Wanderer and his counterpart.

Perhaps being away from other Mystics makes you less likely to become a dormant, in the same way that being away from the other Skeks make skeks more jovial and health.

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To be fair, the movie really wasn't anything special or even good, except for the Skeksis. The show was a completely unexpected smashing success that ended up making the movie better on a rewatch.

Thanks for the heads up user

>skekSam the Patriotic
>the only one of the Skekses to keep a sense of nobility and honor
>always boasting and taking about how great and wonderful the empire is
>the others like being talked up so much but sometimes wish he'd tone it down a notch
>also wish he'd stop trying to inject some culture into their daily routines

>deet will never complain angrily about you entering her into the midget throwing contest before flying away in a huff
She's right to get mad you know, the lack of wings make male gelflings superior as bowling balls.

Damn I love old school posters.
They look so beautiful compared to sterile modern ones.

>We used to be friends once
>...Another time, another life
What gets me is you can actually hear some regret in his voice when he says it, like he does genuinely feel bad but he's trying to repress it.
How the hell did they managed to make characters who absolutely relish in being as evil as possible somewhat sympathetic?

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besides the rest of the Skeksis, I'd love to see Raunip in the show.

I'd also love it if skekSa had her living vessel from the books.

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>Remmeber the scene on the movie where one of them exploded, and the others paid barely any attention?
They did stop and turn to look because of how sudden it was, but they also had a great understanding of the ways of life and death. Also they knew that there would likely be at least one or two casualties in an undertaking as great and dangerous as restoring the Crystal.

we did have some nice dark crystal threads in the time leading up to the show
but as one of those posters I was indeed VERY wary about Age of Resistance. All of the things you mentioned were something I was quite worried would mar it.
Show's been a surprise of the best sort, thank fuck

>tfw we will never watch the skekses play gelfling bowling

Damn that skeksis look so alpha.
Standing there in fron of the giant mosnter turtle. hitting a pipe and making himself to look cool in the eye of some Gelfling girl.
Such an alpha.

More than that.
She made that monster her bitch - she uses it as her boat. Being away from the castle keeps Skeks baddass.

Each one has their own sort of code or honor system. SkekTek probably delighted in teaching Aughra and telling her about all the shit their species saw through space.

>he
She.
She seems to be the only skeksis that prefers female pronouns.

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SkekVar was a big dumb violent brute but he also seemed to be genuinely loyal, enthusiastic, and almost completely uninterested in scheming
The way he really warms up to Chamberlain after he saves him from Tavra, only to get fucking ICED, it was pretty brutal. He was so grateful to SkekSil and really believed him when he said squabbles between skeksis would never be more important than their lives

I think this is a thing people miss, is that the Mystics are as full of failings as the Skeksis are, just in a different way. They are kind of all stuck with what they are to a certain degree.

Heretic and Wanderer are a bit odd as well as Hunter and Archer.

Who is the Chamberlin's counterpart?

Also do we know who the urSkek who was full of anger and darkness was from the Origin Myths comic?

>Who is the Chamberlain's counterpart?
Is referred to as the Chanter

>yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me

Heretic and Wanderer are one of my favourite things in the show, gret ato see skeksis/mystic interactions.

Also iirc the urSkek that skekSil/Chamberlain comes from is the one who had a dark heart - which is why hes the schemiest of the schemers.

urSol the Chanter

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I'd be curious to see what the Chanter is like. You'd think he'd be interesting... for an urRu

You just know that the chamberlain would take the opposite stance:
>So user wishes to to be the Master Of Crystal, yes? And you wish to fornicate with me? My, user truely has such refined tastes to want the crystal and Skeksis.
>Just me? Other Skeksis have told me to fornicate with myself all the time! Truely to come to such a conclusion on your own shows great wisdom. HHmmmmmmMmmmm!
>Do not settle for you petty kind, fucking the crystal of truth is the greatest of asperations! You cannot settle for less, I have been doing both for trines on trines and I'm now eternal!
>Now, please, get in the chair we made for you and pick one! HMMMmmmmmmm!

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That question was probably already raised, but...
Would an FtM Gelfling cut off her/his wings?

>we'll never get to see skesis styling on skeksiboos and lizardfuckers

Yeah. Felt sort of bad. He was quick to forgive and forget and Chamberlain just couldn't get over that fucking chair.

They do terrible thing to each other, but they don't seem able to even imagine a Skeksi wanting to kill one of their own.

>Also iirc the urSkek that skekSil/Chamberlain comes from is the one who had a dark heart - which is why hes the schemiest of the schemers.

Actually, it was never revealed, it´s just a very common theory among fandom.

Makes sense, but it could also very well being the Skek that killed 2 other mystiques right after they were split. Pretty sure that THAT guy was probably the biggest asshole among them.

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Funnily enough, despite a little added hostility from shitstirrers, the one thing that has carried over from old Crystal threads is relative amity between gelflingfuckers and skeksisfuckers.
There were FAR, far less of them then and they were a lot infinitely less blatant, but they still had a presence regardless of how miniscule. I think this show just delivered content in spades for either group so everyone's happy I guess.
One more thing, there was an user who claimed to have a Kira puppet protoype or something in their parents/grandparents attic or something. He could have been bullshitting, but this was back when no one really cared about this franchise so I'm inclined to believe him a bit. I wonder where he went?

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Binders
Also go away

In Beneath the Dark Crystal, there's a Gelfling that wears fake wings. She gives them to Kensho so he can fly. Her sister asks if she's sure she wants to reveal she has fake wings. That might mean there's a trans Gelfling, I guess. It was kind of confusingly laid out in the comic. I didn't know if that was supposed to be a trans Gelfling or just disabled. The line that justifies it is "Some of us aren't born with wings." and no more attention is paid to it.

The cutest gelfling is Drained!Kira

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>That might mean there's a trans Gelfling, I guess.
Could be an injury or deformity.

Probably the same motivating factors, but directed towards helping others. And less secretive, thus chanting. But without all that ambition he probably isn't as engaging.

>the way he's looking at her
Seems like he wanted to stick something besides that knife into her.

>When Hup gets infected by Darkening
youtu.be/9VDvgL58h_Y

>he doesn't know she wasn't drained and survived on her will to live alone (Inspired by Aughra of course)
>he doesn't know Gurjin resisted draining the same way
Zoomers these days

He's like Sky-Byte, always composing poetry.

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I imagine cloning.

Kira was drained of a few drops of essence, and for the rest of the movie she has a sunken face and bags.

QUESTION!

Do you think that Skeks and Mystics get reunited after death? What the Archer said seemed to imply that something of the sort happened.

Asking this because it also seems like Wanderer and ShekGra might never have reunited (and possibly died) efore the movie.

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He's a Whatever.

I think the point is they dont know
At least, the Skeksis dont know

Just fine.

>SkekPodwho is three podlings in a coat

Yes! Time for podlings to take thra back!

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If anesthetic existed? Sure. Otherwise they'd probably just hide that shit away and never use it.

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I can't wait for this lady Skeksis to show up so I can have a proper fap.

Considering what happened to Skeklach, I wouldn't hold my breath.

Aparently, she is not canon anymore, at least according to

I should hope not. Physical mutilation should not be viewed as an essential component of transitioning.

It's likely Archer and Hunter may have reunited since they may have forged their own connection to Thra just by doing what they did.
As for the rest, the fear of not knowing what awaits them on the other side is a big motivating factor for their cruel actions. The mere prospect of actually having to answer for their crimes either in an unknown afterlife or in the form of tremendous guilt in a reunited UrSkek was terrifying to them.

Sounds dubious, and she seems interesting enough that she's probably being heavily considered.

skekCru the mariner isn't canon, but was replaced with skekSa the mariner

Her old name/design aren't canon anymore. She's still in, her canon name is dropped in the conversation about other Skeksis outside the castle.

You can fap to the rest of them now, coward

>Age of Resistance 2: Everyone runs for their lives and like 4 make it out alive.
>its 8 episodes of rolly pollies bashing gelfs and the ones that survive are in the background of the action scenes, conveying to the audience the feeling of how the gartham lost them.

Skeksil seemed ecstatic to be reunified.

It's a theologically interesting question, because if their souls are separated can the properly ascend to an afterlife? It would make a certain sense if they did.

I think the important thing is most Skeksis wouldn't care. They are too selfish and attached to the material to be willing to give it up no matter what.

We often portray the Skeksis vs. UrRu divide as good vs. evil, but it's almost able to be seen as "material" vs. "spiritual" that each is so involved that they struggle to acknowledge the other at all.

Definitely not, dude was cowering for his life when Jen put the shard in.

I want to see a Gelfling warrior take a swing at skekUng just for him to grav the blade and yank the dude's arm off Chewbacca-style. The Garthim Master's official description says he used to tear them apart with his bare hands.

GENOCIDE

I'm generally not attracted to male personalities that way, I just think the rest are cool.

I read it in his voice
I wish I didin't

to be fair, I wouldn't want skeklach anywhere near my food either

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I don't get quite how all the fanart of deet is making her green.

She looks mostly pale white with green on the edges, like a potato.

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It's like how Kingdom Hearts handles it. When both the Heartless and the Nobody are destroyed, the original being is reformed, having the memories of what happened in both pieces' times active. When the urRU and Skeksis die, they eventually return to being the original complete urSkek.

Poor SkekLach, why is she such a mess?

So we finally found Yoda's wife.

It's kind of odd that when urSu the Master dies, the other urRu do a ritual to teleport his belongings to the afterlife.

What does he need his belongings for? The urRu don't seem like they'd be that attached to material things.

She's as green as a pear, you're colorblind

knoooowleeeedgeee

She's the same color as Yoda, just a shade lighter.

They just wanted to finally get rid of all the crap he kept hoarding.

He used to be beautiful

Because she's green?
Go get your eyes checked

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Because that's not just murdering a skeksis but an UrSkek as well. The mystics and most of thra's apparent phlosophies are bringing balance and not by removing everything off the table.

Just like in AoR the skeks were malevalent at the start but weren't outright malignent yet. They were tyrants but for the most part they weren't posing a big threat to Thra and by that time the convergence would have taken care of everything.

It seems almost petty to block that comic from being canon just by fucking with a few names. I bet there will be bigger discrepancies by the time the show is done, sure. But still.

I wonder if skeksies at the movie realized that they could not do anything anymore to prolong their life after gelflings were gone and after seeing their emperor dying or did they had some other plan to execute to become immortal.

My dude.

She's green.

Grayish in some light, but always green in there.

They're back to draining what little they could from the Crystal.

They knew straight from the start that they needed to last 1000 trine to live forever. And they all did, besides the ones that died from violence, and the Emperor for being a dumbass abusing the darkening. The essence plan worked perfectly.

she is sand green

They drank podling essence and decided to use the crystal again despite its minimal effects compared to gelf essence. Not as effective, but they had a ton of slaves and clearly kept doing it trying to desperately cling on to what little they had left.
Unrelated, but worth noting that the podling slaves had their essence restored at the end of the film.

>it also seems like Wanderer and ShekGra might never have reunited (and possibly died) efore the movie.
No
NO

She's ugly like all the other Skeksis

No?
They would have lived that long anyway, they'd just look more decrepit. The entire point is that they were greedy fucks and wanted to cheat the system or get more out of it than they should have. The Hunter's there to show that they could have stayed in youthful shape if they wanted to.

it's already in conflict with the show, just by virtue of the show taking place much closer to the movie, while the comic is centuries before the movie

Or maybe they were just chilling on their rock in the desert, not aware everyone was meeting up at the castle, then bam, reunited.

Ah. I just knew it was about the Garthim War.

Yeah, makes me think that when the skeks died/reformed and the Crystal was healed the essence that had been taken (which had accumulated, inert within the skeksis) was returned as it was intended along with the Great Conjunction. The crystal rituals seemed to have the purpose of taking energy from the Sun collected by the Crystal and directing it to themselves. I'd think the Great Conjunction served to "recharge" the Crystal, which combined with the return of the essence, made the planet green and healthy again

Incorrect

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>What?

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Probably. Or at least they do after the convergence.

it could be that they found a way to reunite naturally because they lived together so long, understanding eachother more and more until they balanced eachother out enough to become one.

Crystal must be reformed for them to join. I think.

Accepting this as current headcanon

It might be that the crystal need to be whole for normal Skeksis/urRu, but those two are weird members of both species.

You're probably right though

Hensons need to do more to wrangle in the footfag community, this will not suffice

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Mystics got the raw end of the deal honestly, they barely have anything good going for them

But how could you forget this?

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Who's the one with the shit table manners

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Got you covered

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Tri-mind.

Bath scene mind

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Mostly, yeah. But it's also possible the more deviated Skeksis like Sa had a more active Mystic counterpart like Mal did.

I like how the image progressively gets bigger.

I don't think the tactics game will be good but I do hope it has at least some lore on the clans. What those clans have for regimented units at least.

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Finishing this show and starting the original movie right after makes me sad, knowing that hardly any of the gelflings we know and love will survive the coming Ghartis onslaught

The urSu were as detached from the concerns of the material world as the Skeksis were bound to it.

The conjunction was their shot at immortality.

Well I guess it’s left ambiguous, Aughra goaded the Empire by playing in his fears of oblivion but I think she genuinely believed that because of their nature they might just disappear, then again they could genuinely merge after death maybe immediately or after the great conjunction

Next season will be genocide: for kids!

If we see skekNa in season 2, will he have his left hand and right eye intact?

When skekTek gets the peeper beetle, they talk about how it had been a long time since it had been used, so maybe they had previously used it on skekNa.

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That's what makes it beautiful. Death to the Gelfling!

Rating systems are bogus. They couldn't establish that the Heretic and Wanderer are on drugs (they alluded to it anyways) but showing a defenseless, tortured muppet creature with its lips stitched shut being beat to death for trying to escape slavery is fine.

Makes sense he'd still have his hand. Feel sorry for his Mystic counterpart.

I think, like the Skeksis, they might have considered that there might not be an afterlife for "unnatural" beings like themselves.

please kill yourself

Not soon enough.

How would skekMal fare against two ships worth of frozen half starved men armed with guns

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Humans would be slightly shorter than skeksis or garthim, but who knows, maybe they use small people for the costumes.

Maybe he lost the hand first then tried rubbing his eye.

I'm pissed we never got any lesbian Gelfling action. Maybe something hot with Seladon pinning the Stone Wood Maudra down and degrading her by tearing off her pendant or something, so that there'd be a call back to that when she had it happen to her from the Skeksi's.
Or maybe I've seen too much porn in my life and simply can't help myself.

It’s skeklach’s feet if that’s what you’re asking

In the books, Onica and Tavra are a couple.

people dont like puppets... so never

Not well if he doesn't get SkekSil in to provide cover fire

>Or maybe I've seen too much porn in my life and simply can't help myself.
That's probably it. Free yourself from mind slavery.

I could absolutely heem every Skeksis in this show

I WANNA BOOP DEET

I’m not the only one that imagined Seladon ravaging Fara in that scene, right?

I was, thank you. Glad he died.

>game appears to be 90% gelflings rather than letting you fight with teams of podlings/landstriders/garthim/etc.

Yawn

You know it took a while for me to figure out why his counterpart was the Herbalist but I finally realized that the Mystic gathered wild herbs by himself when skekNa was a plantation owner.

Juni a cute

Tavra was a good character. Big sisters always are.

He?

Has

Haven't seen these from the creation myth comics posted. Colorful skeks.

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Same.

Looks like something out of a Planescape sourcebook.

Probably Beauregard.

How does he even talk properly?
My man needs some goddamn BRACES.

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The skeksis looked like those jackals from Halo

These are by Froud and canon btw.

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Yeah and in the long run the Skeksis kinda win, they survive long enough until the great conjunction after basically genociding the Gelfling for all their worth and slowly draining everyone else and being reunited means they still get to live forever in as their whole selves

>Asking this because it also seems like Wanderer and ShekGra might never have reunited (and possibly died) efore the movie.

Someone came up with a headcanon that the Wanderer and the Heretic came late to the conjoining, and had to wait for the next one, so they stick around to help the remaining gelflings in the meantime as advisers. The skeksis in the show used essence to prolong their lives, but it seems good diet and simply exercise would have also done the trick if the Hunter's vigor was anything to go by so maybe Wanderer and Heretic could have lasted long enough for the next convergence.

Everyone loves puppets.

To me, the skeksis rejoining isn't really about winning or losing, it's more like being forced to take a bitter medicine. They need it, but don't want it.

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They look like naked Mr Burns

Have you seen the movie? They really let themselves go.

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Figured Froud might have painted them. They were beautiful and in line with his style.

SkekMal might still look like

>To me, the skeksis rejoining isn't really about winning or losing, it's more like being forced to take a bitter medicine. They need it, but don't want it.
I like that interpretation.

>Other Skeksis have told me to fornicate with myself all the time!
I see what you did there, fucking kek.

Raunip...I dunno. He needs to be rewritten. He was such a fucking cunt in Creation Myths, even when Aughra said she was gonna get the UrSkeks home, he still needed to fuck it all up because he had a bone to pick,

Speaking of intercourse...

Why haven't the Skeksis bred? The Urru are obviously too blasé to do it, but what prevented the Skeksis from breeding an army of babyskeks to increase their powerbase? I guess the babyskeks would lack the UrSkek connection, but that would maybe just limit their lifespan? Are all Skeksis barren?

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>Well thanks for everything
>Bye

So anyone else feel like the urskeks kinda got off easy?

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I don't think they can. Skeksis and mystic are both unnatural creatures born from one creature being magically torn into two separate things.

Yet Skeksis have nipples, suggesting a functioning reproductive system.

filter feeding like a whale

It depends. If Creation Myths is canon, then Raunip is to blame for their split and they aren't really responsible for what happened after, I guess. If not, then they are huge dicks,

Is that still canon and So are gelflings okay with gays in general

The Skeksis return is so jarring and dumb. I like the idea that maybe there are crystals connecting worlds since that’s how thenUrskeks arrived.

Now imagine if some assholes went home at the end of the original film and purposefully cracked their world’s Crystal. That’s how I would bring the Skeksis back (If I had to) convergence happens again and a butt load of those things arrive.

trannysexual

Conversely how would a ftm gelfling cope?

Call her a faggot for being so shallow that a buzzword is enough to turn them off something.

You know, SkekVar, with great power comes great responsibility, SkekOk calls it "Skeksis burden". Myself, I just call it as I see it: the responsibility of the master to discipline the servant.
>SkekSo looks directly at the camera
The Gelfling, the Podlings, the Arathim... It's our responsibility to to civilize them. And if we can't? Then they shall shall be strapped to the essence collector chair and drained. The day of the great conjunction is near, SkekVar. We'll have every Gelfling in Thra drained or in chains within 10 trine, and may the Dark Crystal have me die of darkening corruption this very night if I'm wrong. May the Skeksis live forever!

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I know you Deet lovers are going to enjoy this fanart of her bathing (with soap for once). spoilered for sensitive eyes.

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About to start my 4th watch. I haven't liked anything this much in decades.

shitpost or not, that is an interesting webm

Mira is an underappreciated waifu.

>user's cold dark heart has been defrosted by Puppetry

Maybe Heretic and Wanderer were right about everything.

Based

What was the logic leap they went through to go from
>we have a dead spider
to
>we can use it to make an army of mindless soldiers

Science

But the scientist wasn't told until later.

Is that a Gambianpouched rat? I could see training one to do that since they're supposedly really smart.

That is very unsettling

>It's very simple. A corpse is an vessel, right? Because it used to have blood, food, and other stuff inside of it. So it can hold other things. Like something else's soul. Soul, essence, spirit, whatever. Just not the really good Gelfling ones; we need those.

>So anyway just rip the soul of out of one thing that you don't need, ram it into the stronger corpse, and there you are. It doesn't have a will of it's own because it's braindead but moves around because it now has essence within it.

>But... how

>IT'S SCIENCE! I DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN SHIT!

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World of the Dark Crystal, the 1982 lore book, says they were outcasts, and exiled for being somehow "impure". They thought they could rid themselves of this impurity and enable themselves to return home (their attempt to do so merely resulted in the Mystic/Skeksis split), but since in the Dark Crystal universe it's impossible to have light without dark, they were probably intended to master their inner darkness rather than rid themselves of it.

pacarana and they shower like that naturally. Well, minus the soap anyway

Idea: Gelfling Essence is like meth, it supercharges and invigorates, at a cost over time.

Podling essence is a little like botox, it makes you look and kinda feel younger, but it doesn't last any time at all.

Aughrian essence is like straight up PCP, it'll turbo-charge you until you suddenly die (or your mystic counterpart saves you the trouble)

>Aughrian essence
I don't think that was going to have a drawback. The man was going to become an unstoppable killing machine and a real fucking danger to the world. I mean look at what he did without essence and then he gets this crazy supercharge that practically raises the dead. It was a power so terrifying Archer was like holy fuck I have to deal with this right fucking now. That whole scene was fantastic.

You're probably right. Archer saved the day.

I'm gonna assume the jumping off the cliff was a backup to his real intent to ascend himself the way urSu does in the film - if it doesn't work, well, he's still going to hit the ground at high speed and splat will be the end of splat.

I saw it as Alcohol since Skektek was literally drunk on it while the others were fighting

That sequence was hilarious. Just him, angry-drunk and pretending to be the Emperor...

shhhhh
Deet is sleeping

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That's lovely.

Deet sleeps with her wings out? Kinky.

They are and they aren't. They weren't attached to the material world, but a lot of the things they wore or used in day to day life had their thoughts and dreams etched into them, as a sort of extra storage and mental aid. It was probably done because otherwise they'd have just been a bunch of slow, dreamy stoners rather than wizards. Taking into account the possibility that they remain separated in the next life, it was probably a good idea to send their notes and reminders after them so they weren't stuck wandering around the afterlife trying to remember why they were there.

I always enjoy looking at Froud's stuff.

Kinda looks like the youthful Skeksis were obsessed with trying to imitate the urSkeks' coronas and ability to levitate off the ground - trying to retain their predecessors' showiness with none of their solemnity or gravity.

They gave the Gelfling culture and technology, but also completely screwed up the world in increasing stages over a thousand trine post-split. They might have taken one look around during the third conjunction, seen that the crystal was fixing Thra just fine on its own, and decided to leave before they fell to the temptation to get involved again and thus risk more damage.

Aww! who's the artist?

But at the same time, they also put blue eyes on a lot of the worm creatures that attacked the Sanctuary Tree in episode 8, so it could just be a complete oversight like that.

Me. I watched the series a few days ago and have been drawing content since then.

I love everything you've drawn so far! Deet looks so precious in your style.

don't compare my waifu to a rat

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Same here, its such a wonderful feeling.

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Of course Gelflings would be ok with gays.
Gelfings are faggots and I'm glad they all became the big dead.

How would an 83 year old Jim Henson react to the popularity of the series? what about this thread

>How would an 83 year old Jim Henson react to the popularity of the series?
He's probably have minor issues with it because it's the result of interpretation of his idea by others, but on the whole I think he'd be proud of his successors.

>what about this thread
Well the second iteration of the Muppet Show prototype was called "Sex and Violence"...

>not transkekual

you had one fucking job

The weird thing is on its own I don't like the series that much, but the effort and artistry involved makes me so impressed that I do care for what's happening on screen.

>this thread
Uneasy about everyone wanting to fuck everything but fascinated by the fan theories and lore discussion.

Makes sense, you can appreciate quality even if the theme is not really your thing.

Cheers mate

Do you think that when the Gelfling sing in the series, they're singing in some sort of ritual language, or is it simply their usual language left untranslated for effect, like most of Hup's speech?

Also, SkekLach's the main villain of the manga.

I believe that was the original tribal language of gelflings before Urskeks arrival and teaching them civilization and modern english

Your sketches have been great user
Thanks for all of them

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Skeksis are sterile and it was actually a concern in early script drafts where they were trying to harness the Great Conjunction's energy for alchemical/magitech purposes to clone more Skeksis.

The series alludes to it with Tavra talking about how she wishes she could run away with the Sifa during a scene with Brea.

So, Deet is now basically a nuclear bomb, does that mean the castle would explode if they try to drain her essence?

>The series alludes to it with Tavra talking about how she wishes she could run away with the Sifa during a scene with Brea.
IIRC she also reacts with some surprise to Brea's mention of Onica's name, almost as though she knows her personally.

Of course they won't show all the cool shit before there's even a solid release date.

Oh neat, I didn't know that! I kinda like that plot element, they should have kept that. But I guess it would make the film too confusion perhaps.

Read this in his voice

>Ascendancy drone tries to take Augra
>"What? You try to control Augra?"
>"Augra can barely control Augra!"
>Then just hucks it into the woods

Grandmother Nature is the best

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>(they alluded to it anyways)
I missed that, what were the allusions?

Their private pad is festooned with ur-drupes, berries Dousan shamans use to see the future. It's implied to be how they glimpsed the coming fall of the Skeksis.

Also the creators outright said the pair were inspired by Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, and they intended them to be high as kites - one on uppers, one on downers

tfw have watched the final episode of the season and I am still hyped after it but there is nothing to go to as the next season if confirmed would take years to make and there isn't much to discuss.
The World of Dark Crystal is very small if you think about it.
They travel around it in a matter of days. I doubt it has anything to explore.

They have more skeksis characters and moments to explore. They're the main reason people are watching anyway

Why do people in these threads seem to delibaretly evade from discussing Deet except for drawfagging?

Not him but they're half the reason for me, I love the hero parts just as much. I'm probably a tard but whatever.

What? We love talking about Deet newfag

I'm watching for the great lore, awesome puppetry, Skeksis AND Gelfling characters.

>ctrl-f deet: 16 resutls
>ctrl-f gelfling: 47 results
>ctrl-f skeksis 87 results
lizardfuckers are at it again. another thread gone to waste.

>Deet is a perfect cute character
>showrunners decide to fuck her up with darkening
ITS ANNE FRANK ALL OVER AGAIN AAAARARGH

Then why nobody seem to discuss what will happen to her in S2?

A lot of faggots self-identify with the Skeksis.

Des....pite............
being....thirteen...percent............
of Thra's.........population............
Podlings.........make up...............
fifty......two.........percent.........
of......the filth.........and.........trash

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So my guess is Rian will become the father of Jen. The mother would probably that blonde princess, I keep forgetting her name.
Deet will become the mother of Kira. No idea who will be the father, I suspect there will be some new male character in season 2.
At the end after they all die Hub would be the one who will hide and take care of Kira.

Because this is the 5th thread in 2 days and we've already discussed it several times? There was an entire thread trying to predict possible scenarios where Deet DOESN'T meet a terrible fate. Another one was whether or not Deet is Jen's mother, or if she somehow used her blacklight goo powers to magic all the Gelflings somewhere safe, preventing genocide but explaining their absence in the film

If you wanna discuss something discuss it. Don't complain that nobody's talking about it.

We're discussing lore about the setting user, including lore of the races. Deet's lore is contained to the show

>not mentioning the fact that said ascendancy drone then becomes an important character who partners up with Augra

I still don't understand who the fuck Aughra is.Is she another alien? If she is some race that is native to the world why is she alone?
Why does she live forever?
How could she be such a stupid bitch yet supposed to be wise?
I don't get it.

She's avatar of Thra. Mother Nature basically.

HUP NO WANT TROUBLE!

>including lore of the races
>half of the thread is about skeksis roleplaying and smut

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I would call it predictable if I hadn't watch the movie and seen it otherwise.

Aughra exists because Thra wills she exists. She's literally made out of earth, root and stone, an eternal guardian for the world.

My theory is still that once the crystal is restored and the urskeks are reformed, all the essence they drained gets released back into the world. So I'm the same way that the castle immediately crumbled into its crystal form, and all the greenery immediately sprouted back up, more gelfling will simply appear throughout Thra. Whether they are the SAME gelfling or simply new gelfling recycling the same essence remains to be seen, but that would be a good way to have a true gelfling genocide while still retaining a happy ending. So they would either make the ending of season 2 show how Kira and Jen were hidden to give the ending some hope and tie into the movie, or they could do that and then have a timeskip with the last episode or two recreating the events of the movie and maybe having a little epilogue to show Thra being repopulated with all the newly formed gelfling as the essence returns to Thra.

Just ignore it and discuss the topics you want to see. Actively participate and help form the thread into something better. Don't just sit back and whine that other people are talking about things you don't care to read.

There's still a whole story about Lahr and Neffi. I'm still thinking Garthim wars aren't something that would take place in a single day, but will span over years.

>Actively participate and help form the thread into something better. Don't just sit back and whine that other people are talking about things you don't care to read
>let us shitpost as much as we want
skekposter cancer detected.

These threads will only get better is skekposting shit ends.
>Don't just sit back and whine that other people are talking about things you don't care to read
Fuck off vulturefucker. You're the only nuisance in here.

Since when calling cancer as cancer is a bad thing? Are you retarded?

I'll admit I don't know much about what's in the books and comics, so maybe there's a lot more possible content than I'm thinking. In my head it basically ends up being a trilogy of: Gelfling Uprising, Gelfling Genocide, Healing the Crystal. I'd be glad to be wrong about that, though, the more seasons we can get the better if they can maintain this level of quality.

>Hup fighting off an army off garthim armed only with a spoon and a baby

At least they only have to make a super-elaborate puppet once before having free reign to use it for whatever?

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I'm not a skekposter or a vulturefucker, I'm just saying that whining about what other people are discussing without attempting to actually discuss something better is fruitless and a waste of a post. Now I'm going to stop engaging in this whining and go back to discussing possibilities for the next season.

not the ones who deserved it the most...

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>>Boohoo I can't post gelfling guro but they can post skeksis smut

They're both shit

How would the various skeksis react to skekfags/vulturefuckers ?

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Drain them. They're basically Seladon.

Completely with disgust as Skeksis are known for their obsession over racial purity.

They'd be thrilled, I bet. It's flattering.

>Bitch of all the other Skeksis
>Genuinely cares about his pets, who are constantly threatened and under risk of being eaten
SkekTek was made for suffering

Aughra isn't stupid, she is the embodiment of Thra. She knows everything of Thra, but little else, because how could she. She is easily tricked by creatures not from Thra, and she is curious about what is outside of Thra, hence the Orrery,

He's in crystal heaven now, surrounded with cute pets. That's what I choose to believe.

Has anyone considered the implications of having a scene of justifiable suicide that directly solves a problem in a kid's show?

source on pic?
its for research purposes

We've already seen gelflings can be drained without completely being poofed. Then why Skeksis don't use them as live stocks and regularly drain them in small amounts and wait them to rejuvenate instead of taking their all essence and lose them all?

>kids show
Except it's not. AoR's main audience are people who've grown up with the orginal movie.

>Has anyone considered the implications of having a scene of justifiable suicide that directly solves a problem in a kid's show?
Didn't they have that in Regular Show, and Transformers Prime?

They don't rejuvenate, instead becoming the lifeless white eyed zombies you saw in the movie.

I'm guessing it's because of the Prophecy, they didn't want to risk it.

>Movie just sets up the Skeksis as vicious monsters without any redeeming traits so we don't care if any of them die
>Show builds the personality of the Skeksis to have some sort of twist sympathy for them, and now we're faced with the inevitability of them not just dying, but disappearing forever because they have no souls

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It's not like they're doing blood donations, they're draining the gelflings literal metaphysical life essence and permanently making them closer to death. They won't recover or rejuvenate, they'll just die sooner.

>disappearing forever because they have no souls
I would say that probably have half a soul.

She’s basically the embodiment of Thra, an avatar for Thra

A mix of digust at the human form and flattery because they're narcissistic as fuck
they'd probably not go for draining (and its arguable weather humans COULD be drained, we dont seem to have "essence" like gelf or even podlings do)
They'd probably go grunak on us, we'd be slaves, and maybe with our uncanny willingness to bone, we'd basically be turned into glorified sex toys

>having a scene of justifiable suicide
Remind me?

dropbox.com/s/bskzeqjfglhdkub/SAYPLEASE2019.pdf?dl=0
Throw the artist a dollar or two if you like it

>"Maybe have no soul, turn to dust when you die"
>"I will NEVER be dust!"

>we dont seem to have "essence"
Speak for yourself, user.

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I hope we'll see more of it in the next season.

Because flattery worked out so well for Seladon

;_;

>Remind me?
Archer kills himself to save Rian from the Hunter.

Aughra is taunting him. Just a few moments earlier she admitted to not being able to know for herself because they're not of Thra.

That's different, that's a Gelfling, barely even a pet. Humans inspire a little more respect due to our size and intelligence and civilisationbuilding.

Archer

Oh yeah. And I think noble sacrifice has always been a staple of (children's) literature. Don't several characters do it in Harry Potter?

.......NO

Dark Crystal officially has a complete muenster say something nice about him.

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And Gelfling aren't capable of the same? The fact Power and Beneath exist show they do just fine without Skeksis.

So far as they know and the lore indicates, they haven't got any metaphysical/magical component which would allow for any persistence of self after death. It makes sense for their characters, they are purely materialistic creatures obsessed with wealth, fine clothing and ruling other beings, they don't "fit" in a world of natural mysticism and magic crystals.

Yeah, you're not wrong and I don't think I disagree. It just feels slightly different when the character isn't jumping in front of a bullet or something, but instead just dives off a fucking cliff.

they played us like a damn fiddle

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Emperor is just deep down terrified of what happens to him after death because he’s facing the real possibility of endless oblivion because his completely unnatural nature

The Miss Yea Forums qualifier poll is up.
Be sure to head over and show your support to Deet.

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Is a Dark crystal Hunger games simulator allowed as long as its on topic and contained within this thread?
(it could be fun)

That seems like it going to be a shitshow

No.
Back off to /trash/ with it

It might clog up discussion. I'd recommend starting a thread on /qst/ instead or something.

Pretty sure that's banned

I see, thanks for telling me (Im new)

I hope they give little bro a happy ending in Season 2. He's seen way too much shit.

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>/qst/
No, that's wrong. /qst/ is for interactive storytelling ONLY.

We must do this for Deet!

I still don't see the puppeteer head in this scene.

I have a feeling Skektek will be bullied to a point where he snaps and kills his fuzzy bro.

Thanks for actually asking first before shitting up the thread. You'll do well here, newfriend.

He has many feels and HE DID NOTHING WRONG.

Goddammit no, that's too sad.

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thank you!

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Hehe. I like the skek close to the middle with small wing things tied to his arms and a puppet. They seemed really into wing-like appendages.

Should I read the Dark Crystal books? How good are they?

They run the gamut from meh to shit.

They're "Young Adult" novels. You should know the answer.

>Throws a fit after some major failure or punishment and takes it out on his little buddy
>After having a moment to calm down he realizes what he's done and desperately pets it hoping that its still okay.

I've seen it some rougher versions before that this wasn't as bothersome, especially since he poofed before impact. Redwall had some gruesome ones in the books for example, like Badger Lords dragging off villains off cliffs or crushing them beneath their dying bodies.

I'm doing my part!

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>tries to bring it back to life with a shard of reproduction crystal and some spare biomatter from other animals
>it transforms into some kind of weird insectile thing with the shard inextricably embedded in its forend
>as the scientist sits and bemoans his blunder, the Ritual Master comes through the door...

Why do people do my boi like this...

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He a nerd.

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Looks more like you're dooting your part.

Because your headcanon doesn't match up with the absolutely horrible people they are

Well, Dark Crystal is actually made for kids and teens, so.

I really liked SkekVar

Don't want to spoiler stuff but do the sequel comics ever explain how the fuck Skeksis came back to Thra after Thurma broke the crystal?

>Satisfied grunt

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Indeed

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No.

Sequel comics are shit. Just don't waste your time trying to find meaning in it.
>"why you didn't tell us before that there is an another sentient race under Thra, Aughra?"
>"I forgot lol"

DC has the same problem as Star Wars sequels. The film features the end of the story, everything interesting happens before it or during movie-time. Nobody really cares about what happens after 'the end'. Nobody wants to see how Gelflings rebuild society in detail, that's what people's own imagination does better anyway.

What about "The Ornamentalist?"

Also.
>Pirate Skek
>Lady

If they reference the legendary Chinese female Pirate Lord in her character I would be HYPE AS FUCK

>Nobody wants to see how Gelflings rebuild society in detail
I do, it's just the way they went about it wasn't great.

Exactly this. Just as bringing back the Empire in the form of the First Order and giving them another planet-destroying (or in this case, system-destroying) super weapon is about the laziest thing you can do, bringing back the Skeksis and Mystics is a mistake.

I'm glad this never got produced as a film, and I hope it never does.

You don't fuck with Augra

I like the new one.

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The eyeball bit gave me some massive Bride of Reanimator vibes.

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He's got a massive inferiority complex so he's easy to pick on

Considering most tv shows don't even get posters, it's pretty good all things considered. I like its simplicity, reminds me of the BotW cover/intro to the game.

>Order
Not only that, but also it copmletely contradicts with the movie's ending. What we've supposed to understand is that UrSkeks had left forever and gave the crystal to Jen and Kira to rebuild their planet with it's power as a compensation. Now the Power of Dark Crystal tells us that they never left in the first place and merely imprisoned in the crystal which doesn't make any sense from the movie's PoV. Not even mentioning that literal who fire race that came out of nowhere.

She helped out the Emperor with the first Darkening experiments then noped the fuck off when the cost became apparent.

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Nobody fucked with the colours, pic just a crop so she's GREEN.

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Holy shit I didn't notice that, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if there were a couple more nods or references in there to any puppetry, stop motion or practical effects artists

Is that actually in the lore, or are you guessing? Either way, it would grant a nice meaning to the whole, "Then came knowledge" thing.

It should have stayed a "What if" comic for a potential screenplay. Why they chose to canonize it is beyond me. Personally I'm fine as long as future sequel material stays far away from those plotlines.

Just made it up.

Apparently either David Odell or Simon Spurrier said that the cracking of the crystal pulled the urSkeks through space from wherever they were and tore them asunder again, which is still stupid.

>SkeSo's beak rotted off because of Darkening
>SkekLach's beak is constantly oozing puss

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I don’t think any explanation wouldn’t be a thin feeling asspull

>be a banished Urskek
>eventually after thousands of trines later finally manage to reunite
>but after realize you're eternally bound to the crystal and called back to Thra each time some idiot gelfling or another shit breaks it up again
No wonder why both Skeksis and Urru were so reluctant and unwilling to do anything in the sequel. They were actually depressed to be in Thra with it's retarded inhabitants.

Would have been better just to have it be one exiled Skeksis who never made it to the castle during the conjunction, if they really, really wanted to have a Skeksis.

>the darkness unleashed by Deet is attracted to skeklach
Deepest lore

Oh they’re seriously canon? That sucks.

they're not canon, but official. There's a difference.

The events of them are still listed on The Dark Crystal site's official timeline
darkcrystal.com/mythology.php

This show was dark as hell honestly it’s even more of a brutal flick than the film

It’s weird Podlings can seem less “civilized” than gelflings but generally chill in the movie and besides that one village cleaning scene

Dare I say it might be one of the biggest experiments in "How much can we get away with in a PG rating?"

Damn, poor guy.

Hmm interesting. Well, the tv series deviated a bit from the novel so maybe if they do get around to making a sequel one day they’ll also change some things.

>literal who fire race that came out of nowhere
They were actually mutated gelflings that is revealed in the end.Comics are shit but they have a logic in it's own.

This picture of him looks like a Skyrim loading screen

Too bad it came before the series. Could have been heretic and wanderer.

see Deet
Deet is Neat
see Deet Yeet

SHOOPDAWOOP
SkekLach *splatters*

I think Heretic and his UrRu counterpart had already made a lovers suicide before the conjunction.

as a prank against the lesser services, it is tradition to give the podlings crystal meth before bath time

she's Thra's analog of Gaia

i don't see why thread cannot be about interesting lore, hmmmmmmmmmm posts, AND Deet's feet meat covered in skeet.

if we wanted shitty silo'd conversations we would go to plebbit

Garthim war
Podling slaves
Pirate adventures
Gelfling genocide

Garthim adventures
Podling genocide
Pirate war
Gelfling slaves

would be a better option.

Calling it - Season 2 will continue to build up the Gelfling rebellion until about two-thirds of the way through, after which point the Garthim (after much build up) finally enter the fray and proceed to completely wipe the fucking floor with the Gelfling. Season will end on a depressing Empire Strikes Back kind of note where the heroes lose and are on the run.

Season 3 will complete the story and focus on the surviving Gelfling trying to evade extermination, learning about the prophecy, and then going on one last ditch quest to try and do whatever they need to do to ensure the prophecy eventually comes to pass.

Well they got away fucking a blood splatter after a very brutal off screen beating

Season 2
Garthim ventures
Pirates ahoy
More worldbuilding
Meet the other Skeksis

Season 3
Garthim war ending in Gelfling genocide

We need two more seasons, please Netflix

No
Garthim slaves
Podling war
Pirate genocide
Gelfling adventures

>Season 2: Gelfling clans are united, but Skeksis has a plan, how will our friends fare?
>Season 3: The great prophecy is coming closer and garthim armies are reveging the lands or gelflngs, deet and rian is gelflings only hope
>Season 4: All things might have not lost as gelflings have gathered for a last fight will the gelfling bride can persuade the empreror and save her race?
>Season 5: As marriage preparations go on evil chamberlain has revealed a horrible secret, skekling child is actually Aughra's lost granddaughter, will Raunip take this blame or just leave it on?
>Season 6: Raunip and Emperor confronts with each other as to decide who will own the skekling child and the oil wells of Thra

>Netflix show
>getting a 3rd season
Only if it becomes the next GoT.

>Season 6: Raunip and Emperor confronts with each other as to decide who will own the skekling child and the oil wells of Thra
Kek. I can see what you're going with this.

I think we'll just get 3 seasons total.

Reminder that skekGra and urGoh will never be unified.

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AAAAAAAA SHUT UP

I bet they did. I bet they managed it without the stupid crystal, through the power of BRO.

Let me keep my comfortable illussion pls.

the writers have said they outlined 3 total seasons

SkekEkt is very effeminate, but I don't recall any of the other skeksis referring to her as she

>all this talk of darkness and darkening
There needs to be a Dark Crystal world in Kingdom Hearts IV.

They rarely use gendered language, do they? They just use each other's names.

....maybe they're also confused.

Guys, I just had the weirdest shower-thought: The creation of the Garthim at the end of episode 10 is skekTek mirroring the act of his own creation.

Instead of the light of the Crystal of Truth being used to sunder one natural being into two unnatural ones, the light of the Dark Crystal is used to merge two natural beings into one unnatural one.

>skekGra fucked urGoh so deeply and so hard one night that they reformed into a complete urskek

Yeah. they just use titles and names to refer to each other. Don¨t think I ever hear them using "he" or "she", or if they do its very rarely. Instead of "get him out of here" they'll say "get the Chamberlain out of here!" etc. And it probably deliberate, as they don't technically have genders.

SkekEkt and SkekLach are voiced by women in the show though, I take it they were both meant to be seen as female by the audience.

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They're not confused. They're just neither, and gender isn't really relevant for them.

Fuck you, that's beautiful and romantic.

They're implied by the creator to be hermaphrodites, on top of that they're sterile, they're consumed with a focus on status and individual uniqueness, and there are less than 20 of them in the entirety of existence. Unlike most living things they have no ability or drive to reproduce so that language simply isn't necessary as part of their personal vocabulary.

>skeksis all see an urskek fly into the sky from their castle
>skekWhat.png
>suddenly there is a knock on the door
>skekSo opens it to find all the mystics at the door holding chloroform rags
>one steps forward
>"it... seems... that... waiting... a... thousand... trine... is... no... longer... necessary..."
>"now... we... can... do... this... the... easy... way... or... the... hard... way..."

Beautiful.

Now you're talking.

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the way chamberlain says please is so cute

Now this is a headcanon I can get behind

Insult I'd like to see toward Chamberlain:
*Whale is seen by Skeksis
Quick, Chamberlain, talk to it!

Fund it.

What are the possible things that can wreck up Thra besides Skeksis rule?
>a giant asteorid
>Urskeks sending more sophisticated assholes to Thra through dimensions
>invention of organized religion
>communism

More urSkeks

>communism
Will we ever get a series where the Gelfling, now on the run from the much mightier Garthim, must adopt guerrilla tactics and move armies down the Deet Chi Minh trail in an attempt to overthrow the evil skekDiem?

Way Chamberlain says please in the movie cohesion scene made me so scared as kid I would fast forward it on the VHS tape.

>communism
user, what do you think communism is?

Neat. Good catch.

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