Why does the movie completely ruin the characterization of the Diamonds

Why does the movie completely ruin the characterization of the Diamonds.

Suddenly they all want to suck Steven's dick and are all UWU MUH PRECIOUS PINK DIAMOND CINNAMON ROLL

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>"Suddenly"
Two years have passed you retarded fagmotron.

I've seen people say this as though the end of Change Your Mind didn't happen

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It amkes no sense to have a quick turnaround for beings who are at least 10000 years old. Why would they just up and make Steven the top Diamond?

Purifying the diamonds is my fetish

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They've always been shitty characters. Every one of their appearances tries to woobify them just because they're sad about their little sister/daughter being dead even though they're the ones who made her kill herself, they aren't given much reason behind any of the atrocities they committed besides boohoo Pink is dead, we don't know why they ran homeworld like fascist dictators and wanted to wipe put planets to inifinitely expand their empire but apparently it doesn't matter. Their potential to be good antagonists was completely thrown out the window when Rebecca decided to make them allegories for racist/homophobic/transphobic parents that just needed to be talked down from their ignorant conservative views while brushing all the mass murder/torture/slavery they're responsible for under the rug. The very first time they acted proactively and came to Earth to threaten the protagonist like a good antagonist should they were anticlimactically stopped and became weak willed pussies because Steven's Pink Diamond copout card immediately made them into his bitches and all he had to do was tell them to stop being evil to get them to do 180s and change homeworld to his whim. The fact that they're portrayed as silly doting grandma joke characters now is stupid but not as stupid as Steven allowing them to remain in power without facing any repercussion for anything they did.

Why do you guys have boners for punishment? Just treat it like a Beerus thing.

Dragon Ball is poop

Beerus is a different situation entirely because not only is death a fucking joke in Dragon Ball, he's only doing what he does because it's his job to keep things in balance. Otherwise he's lazy asshole that doesn't really do anything unless he has to.

It's nowhere near comparable to assholes that not only wipes out entire planets for no exact reason, but they were actively were involved in tons of fucked up shit, including the Gem Experiments. To just sweep it all under the rug is asinine at best.

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Your whole comment is bullshit but
>not as stupid as Steven allowing them to remain in power without facing any repercussion for anything they did.
Is specially retarded, there is no way Steven can do shit to them, they are the de facto leaders of the Gem Empire, the crystal gems are a tiny pathetic group of rebels with outdated tech. They spared Steven life, not the other way around.

He will destroy planets for not having food he likes, he is way pettier

They have been subjected to Stevens Pink "aura" for 2 years straight. I like to think this is probably what they were like when pink was around too knowing they used to play together and take baths and shit.

Spot on. Sugar is always chasing the next idea that pops into her head. Left entirely up to her, the characters would change all the time; based on what new idea she'd come up with. The diamonds aren't the only characters that changed. Steven changed from somebody who couldn't be talked down by Lapis into someone that talked others down.

They made them almost over the top nice to make them seem more redeemed basically. It is cheap and dumb but to be expected I guess.
>Using Dragonball as a positive example for anything

Dragonball is a fucking comedy. You are a retarded child.

You guys do realize that’s one of SU’s main inspirations right?

>Stevens Pink Aura makes gems want his cock
Based

Oh yes, SU is quite the hard hittting drama, every one of those does a crossover with OK KO and Uncle Grandpa

That doesn't make it good.
What did Rebecca even pull from DBZ? Because it doesn't really wear it on its sleeve.

>that op image

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>Suddenly they all want to suck Steven's dick
that's hot

>They've always been shitty characters.
They're not shitty, they fit the mold that was made for them just fine. They were never supposed to be this big strong antagonists who intimidated someone watching the show, because why would you make that in this show? This show is all about relationships, so in the end they were just dialed down to a family going through a loss. Just take this exact same plotline and stick it into any lifetime movie, and viola. It fits. The setting was just dressing for them and you were never supposed to think about them that much. Really, you're not supposed to think about much of anything in this show, how could you? You'd only be left with questions and contradictions in the answers you received. I still have no idea how anyone got it into their head this was supposed to be some kind of epic instead of, you know, a fucking kids show. You're not supposed to ask why Skeletor just does what he does and is content to keep it that way, because it fits the formula of comedy-action-ending beat for each episode. The diamonds need to be needy for the movie, so they are. White is supposed to be imposing but easily taken down by a child being witty little on the nose, Bekky. so she is. They just got rid of their armies and colonies because that was their way to show they changed, you're not actually supposed to think about what that means.

Stop putting dumbass shows on pedastals and just accept that sometimes people make really stupid shit for children because they're not really good writers, and maybe try looking for a well done alternative instead of dwelling in something made stupid and whiny by design.

You're right. They should be after Greg's diamond drilling dick

>little on the nose, Bekky.
have you seen her? Everything's a lot on the nose with her, its gravitational pull ensures it.

Change your mind was so fucking rushed. They couldn't have at least brushed it back a little with their characterization going forward? No, even White wholeheartedly believes in Steven. Could have had great narrative tension with their different perspectives on the situation but fuck it, Steven's got giant gay grandmas now!

>They couldn't have at least brushed it back a little with their characterization going forward?
I don't get comments like these. Its a happy ending in a kids show. Of course they're not going to end it with tension and 'maybe everything's not all happy and rainbows' because kids would be upset by that, they want a neat, tidy happy ending in their stuff, so the showrunners gave it to them because that's what you do with bright colorful cartoons. No five year old wants to debate if maybe the big tall ladies aren't super nice after all.

They lived 5,000 years without Pink and after finding her 'she' wants to leave them again.
Of course they'll be upset.

>They're not shitty, they fit the mold that was made for them just fine.

The mold was shit though

I kinda love how they're just the Golden Girls now

So he mindrapes them constantly and they have no free will?

Steven is villain

Kickass

>Why would they just up and make Steven the top Diamond?
He is their reincarnation of their sister/daughter/whatever that they thought had been murdered, of course they'd adore and spoil the hell out of him.

>Realized they pushed their little sis to runaway
>Retired from their sole purpose
>Only way to redeem themselves is through their nephew
>Steven only has 70-80 years left alive and wants to spend them on Earth.
>They probably feel bad that Steven doesn't want to stay with them for a short century.

Family is their weakness. Pissing off Steven will break things up again. Era 3 is an experiment to see if the empire can work under Pink and Steven's ideals and if not they can always go back to the old playbook.

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>Why does the movie completely ruin the characterization of the Diamonds.
The series already ruined them, so how could that be the movie's fault?

>"Yes we know you're not her, but you were hers / You know what it meant to love her / And you remind us so much of her"

And if it doesnt work they can do either of 2 things, dump all the failed gems on earth as a xontainment while acting like good guys, or crush all opposition after steven dies off.

Or both!

How does the "for children" excuse work when the average aged viewer is 22?

Because it actually makes sense for the movie to keep side characters simple as to focus more on the main characters. It's literally the only time it's excusable to do this thing.

Don't care. Just wanna see more cute Diamonds going forward.

>Make it for kids
>People who share similar interest to kids watch it.

Who cares if older people watch it? If they do, they're okay with watching children's shows. Win win.

That doesn't answer my question

Do kids even watch this show? It gets boring at a lot of points and I'm not sure kids give a shit about the shows entire concept and focus of Steven's development.

Sure! At least enough to justify keeping it.

It has bright colors, songs, and funny gags, of fucking course children watch it. Children watched the Emoji Movie for fucks sake.

>funny gags

This is wrong