Could Steven redeem him?

What does Yea Forums think? Could Steven redeem him?

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The whole point of his character was that he was too sure in his own righteousness that he couldn't be talked down from his ambitions by anyone, not even his own family. I doubt Steven could redeem him.

Holy shit, Yugo and Steven would throw hands over how Yugo dealt with him.

No but I'm pretty sure Steven could redeem nox easy peasy

One of the main issues was he was so utterly bugfuck after all those years that he literally couldn't be without actually mindwiping the fucker. Which they couldn't do.

So no.

Nah, Nox believes if he travels back in time and fixes his mistake, none of his evil actions would have ever happened.
Steven won't change his mind on that. He had to see it with his own eyes that he was fucked.

Being fair Nox was *right*. Timetravel would work that way.

The problem is he had no fucking where near enough juice for the job.

Qilby is a very simple person, he needs to have it his own way or he's going to fuck you over and laugh at your pain, and he'd probably try to kill Steven to get some diamond mojo to power his magic spacebus so no

The fucked up part was that the time god later time travels like its nothing.
Nox's story is too damn sad. kek.

Yeah Xelor is explicitly a huge fucking shit like that.

Remember he and some demons canonically grab people, including other gods, from all over the fucking timeline and make them fight to the death before bringing them back and wiping their memories to send them back, all the fucking time for his amusement.

Qilby didn't do anything fucking wrong. His existence is suffering and so, by extension, is shinonome's. The best that could happen to him is getting his Dofus broken but he is the child of the two Cosmic Gods and you'd need another equally powerful Dofus to get the job done meaning another pair of twins would have to go down with him.

At the time of S1 it was canon the Xelor didn't think you could do what Nox did. The demons of seconds and hours are different.
If the canon has changed then so be it but at the time, using the eliacube, Nox out did Xelor.

I'm pretty sure triggering the near genocide of your species is a pretty big no-no.

That said, what would Steven think about Yugo imprisoning him?

He didn't do it on purpose and they survived so it's cool. It was their fault for being layabout hippies instead of a sprawling divine empire.
Yugo and by extension the council and the rest of the Eliatropes are too passive. Yugo is keeping his people on ice instead of carving out a chunk of the WoT. What a pussy. WoT is eliatrope clay. The only reason it was used by the Ten was because there was residual wakfu and stasis all over the place after their fight with the mechanism or whatever they were called.
In a very real way the entire world belongs to Yugo and given he has the EliaDofus, Eliacube and is a demiGod he could simply reach out and take it. Instead he cucks to tree people like a thirst teen.
Qilby just wanted adventure and exploration be it intellectual or physical.

As for Yugo locking him up? He wouldn't like it but he's not a stranger to bubbling. Qilby can't be released in good conscience until the Eliatrope have a new society and Yugo is fully grown, experienced and educated, and therefore able to defeat him easily (because as we should all remember Qilby is the weakest councilor).

>genociding your species is a no-no
It really doesn't matter. Eliotropes and all life int he Krosmoz can be recreated by the two cosmic gods at the end of the day. I say let all life come to an end because none of it matters. I want to return to the void of nothingness.

Isn’t there a big difference between putting someone in a deep sleep versus keeping them consciously trapped in a vast void of nothing?

What would be Steven reaction towards pic related?

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There is a big difference but Qilby's issue isn't a matter of attitude. He is literally tired of existing. Either feed him new things, continuously kill him, destroy his Dofus or trap him eternally.
Heck even killing him continuously might not work given we know shinonome learned to become conscious within the Dofus.
His life is suffering one way or another unless he wins or dies. There is no redemption.

The Cosmic Gods bailed after birthing the Krozmoz didn't they? They aren't going to start shit again. The universe and their kids are all they signed up for.

If by redeem you mean "convince a bad a guy to stop doing bad things by the means of awful writing" then probably yes

They'll do it again at some point. Its just a matter of waiting.

Why the fuck can he and his sister remember everything?

The only thing he did wrong was starting a war with Mechasms and losing that war

Hu*ans ain't people so its ok to genocide them

Blessing of the cosmic Gods. Perhaps he's daddy's favourite. The Franklin Richards of the cosmos destined to succeed it.

Very good post. If we're being honest the Mechasms were greedy and wouldn't share their hearts with the children of the true Gods. That's kinda of a dick move and they deserve to get war waged on them for it.
It's not like they needed their hearts either. Organx still waged war pretty well without his.

Xelor explicitly COULD go back in time per his own admission. It's just that doing so could absolutely break existence if you messed it up, so he refrained (except when he's doing it for his own amusement, but he just fixes that by putting them back).

Yeah, but that is the god who literally invented time. And he would have limitless amount of Wakfu.
I know gods occasionally incarnate in Wakfu, but Nox wasn't it.

Traveling through time and reversing Xelor's clock (one of the primordial relics by which WoT exists) are two different feats.
Plenty of examples of light time traveling. Nox on the other hand reversed fucking everything. Iirc there is a tooltip to the tune of that not being possible.
That said you saying he couldn't do it without fucking up reality could also be right. All I know is that he had refrained and has shocked af that Nox managed to do what he did.

Xelor went back in time when existence was quite young. The resultant force from this almost completely fucked everything up for good, so he decided to not bother trying again unless he was doing something more for his entertainment.

He was probably more surprised at the fact that a mortal even managed to pull off a few minutes worth of time travel on the bare minimum of the cosmic scale.

Eliachad's and the combined force of eliachad/mechasm technology>Inglorium spirits who only hold dominion over one shitty planet

It's the difference between being a regular God and a proper creator God. Eliatropes and potentially mechasm are primordial cosmic shit.

To be fair Xelor just warps people across time and puts them back to avoid paradoxes. Nox straight up brute forced an entire universal time reversal that not only effected the world of twelve but also every other planet along with their respective deities.

Exactly this. He didn't time travel. HEAPS of characters time travel. Nox reversed time itself in an absolute sense. He turned the clock backwards.

Its a very similar situation as the SU movie.
Spinel spent 6000 years alone doing nothing, though for gems, looks like time and emotions arent as important as they are for humans
Quilby is an Eliatrope, he dies and comes back with all of his memories, and he is the scientist/doctor of his people. He spent so much time with no job and changing worlds that he is no longer satisfied with staying in one place that has little potential compared to what he experienced in who knows... 10000 years?
You cant convince someone like that, hes doomed, maybe if he was a baker like Alibert he would have no trouble with his curse.

what Quilby needed was a way of forgetting, if Yugo could somehow let him revive like the other elder eliatropes without remembering anything then he wouldn't go nuts again.

How do you even fix a soul's continuity like that. In fact, it was getting worse. Because of Qilby's shit shinonome was learning to do things she shouldn't during reincarnation as well.
Qilby exists to suffer. Not just viscerally but he now also knows that, while he's eternally imprisoned his sister is also trapped in a bodiless void capable only of watching her imprisoned children eternally trapped in a timeless dimension.
JUST

Could Steven redeem Iop?

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Qilby needed to accept that none of the eliatropes wanted to explore the krosmos like he did. He could have done well by himself as an eternal journeyman, gathering knowledge on an endless voyage, but he wanted company and had lost his empathy for other living beings.

he was afraid to be alone though

wonder how things would be if Shinomone and Quilby's roles were reversed

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This theards needs to be banned

god forbid cartoons are discussed on Yea Forums

its not Iops fault the living doll was LITERALLY made to be mind-controllingly attractive.
All so Sadida could rip apart a god-baby and make some enchanted masks.

Sadida is a cunt.

I thought of Spinels situation too, but it seemed like Qilby suffered it worse due to the underlining factors of his immortality and general mentality getting worse over who knows how long.
Spinel just had to be sad about one person abandoning her, Qilby has to suffer that en mass every time he’s reborn.

>Meanwhile Qilby dragon sis is perfectly fine
Qilby is a fag

Honestly a little peeved we didn’t get more on her.

could steven redeem this board from "could steven redeem" posters?

>He becomes Spinel's new friend instead of the diamonds
What happens?