>spends most of the movie obsessing over Steven >Is visibly heartbroken when she sees Steven with Connie in the end >The entire song Found Why the fuck is the majority of the Tumblr side of the fandom shipping her with a gem she hasn't even met,
Don't pay attention to that side of the fandom, it's as easy as that.
Jackson Allen
Because tumblr chooses "gay" over anything else Spinel got cucked hard by Steven and it's not right.
Angel Parker
eat a sack of baby dicks motherfucker , she deserves all the love and care in the universe .
Adrian Gonzalez
does it NEED to be super coherent to the narrative? What's wrong with pairings based on superficial observations in disregard to the story? Not every bit of fanart is a formal declaration of a secret truth.
Josiah Hughes
It's all fun and games until we get another Lapidot situation
Just be glad that there’s no retarded tumblr discourse on how Stevnel is pedophilic because Spinel is 6000+ years old or whatever. As much as I hate using the term, Spinel is “coded” as a child-young teen, so it makes the StevenxSpinel relationship less controversial.
He’s 16, doesn’t look 8 anymore. Zach being able to use his normal voice. They can handle that now.
Ryder Hernandez
but by merely engaging with that argument you've validated it. These are cartoon characters and "coding" is entirely in your mind.
Luke Garcia
its because the Maryland age of consent is 16
Liam James
calarts trash
Daniel Bailey
the thumbnail of this pic makes it look like steven and spinnel are chibi characters packed into a bumper car.
Brandon Brown
>Steven protective over Spinel Cute
Blake Sanders
I’m not saying I’m against the Stevnel relationship especially since it’s my OTP , I’m only stating that OP should be glad there isn’t any dumb drama in regards to the ship, like what had happened in the past before. Anyway, found a source to this pic incase you guys were still searching. pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=76677135
Because Steven doesn't like Spinel. He's just a good person. Spinel even acknowledged that Steven didn't like her and wasn't going to because she fucked up so bad that she had to leave and find someone else to befriend.
She can only really have a healthy relationship with a gem she didn't meet in the movie (barring the DA of course).
Adam Reyes
I like this. ....
>tfw no vulnerable clingy Spinel gf.
Justin Torres
I’d imagine a SpinelxSteven fusion would be a mascot-like character. >Has the toonyness of Spinel >Has Steven’s passionate personality >Always being there for kids and everyone >Preaches about peace and love like a mascot would >Loves to give hugs and being overly positive in general
I've never watched SU so I have no idea what I'm talking about but I've been seeing these threads and I must ask: does anyone think that Spinel's ending is good? It seems like she was an exceptionally damaged character that was desperately looking for someone to bring her back to reality and steve curved the shit out of her
Am I missing anything?
Hunter Peterson
No, and other than Spinel, the movie is otherwise forgettable. Watch it for Spinel.
Kevin Gomez
She re-entered a codependent relationship. She took a step back, not forward.
Mason Smith
First time around, the ending sucked. She should've stayed with Steven and been friends with him.
Second time around, I can appreciate her wanting to start over with something new. And now she's around someone who likes her. She deserves happiness, and she seemed happy being with the Diamonds. So I like the ending.
She reunited with the few people she knew before she was damaged and decided to reconnect with them. I feel t’lk work out
Parker Peterson
Spinel needs a good hard dicking and you know it.
Carter Lopez
The real big change from Pink to the other diamonds is at least one of the other diamonds will tell Spinel if her clown act is getting old or not. Meaning she'll get the chance to change and not repeat the past.
>"coding" is entirely in your mind. I wouldn't say that. Even if you just don't like the academia-type socjus type term of "coding" it's pretty present in SU. Garnet and Bismuth are pretty obviously black women, for example. Saying "but they're actually space aliens" makes sense in a vacuum, but we don't live in a vacuum. If those two characters started shucking and jiving and doing minstrel show numbers, it'd be pretty apt to call it racially charged, even if TECHNICALLY in the narrative they aren't humans of African descent born in the United States.
This is really a poor ending. It just shows that she hasn't grown or changed.
She was made to be best friends with Pink Diamond. She never had a choice about who she would be. She came to Earth for revenge, but ultimately she was becoming her own Gem in doing so. She was choosing her fate. She wasn't going to be Pink Diamond's friend, because fuck Pink Diamond.
Steven showed her she deserved better friends, but more importantly, she could be her own Gem on Earth. That's good, but she immediately re-attached herself to Steven. Even at the conclusion of their fight, she couldn't go through with it, because at the end of the day, she can't fight her programming. She just wants to be his friend.
Then she comes to the realization that Steven can't be the answer, that she needs to start over with someone new. And that's nice, but she's still focused on being someone's friend as if it is the sole point of her existence.
Then the Diamonds show up, and now she's completely regressed. She is only ever going to live out her intended purpose - to be a friend to a Diamond. She doesn't get to find her own friends, or even find out that maybe she can love herself without having to rely on someone else doing it for her.
staying with steven would have done the same thing, retard.
Mason Edwards
More importantly, what would their weapon be like? Spinel wasn’t made to have a weapon, unless you count the scythe which had the heart gem as a symbol, and Steven has a shield. So a Mascot character with a shield+scythe would be? Something sports related maybe, considering the playful personality it would have.
Samuel Sanchez
Would it? Steven made it perfectly clear he wasn't going to coddle her.
Jaxson Ward
shes still making friends with the diamond she was made to be. IE, doing the same thing she did with rose. all of what you wrote applies to steven.
Carter Evans
another thing that burns me about the ending is how Yellow Diamond just kinda hand-waves her suffering away as "nothing". Even assuming that the diamonds are like 50000 years old, 6k is still more than a tenth of their lifespan. Even assuming theyre at 100k years, thats still significant. Considering how quickly they broke down without Pink that time frame definitely wouldnt be nothing to them and I loathe that she says that.
Levi Hernandez
Pink Pearl and Spinel are more likely to kill each other based on determining who Pink Diamond loved more.
Jordan Powell
they could be a fusion that doesn't have their own weapon, like alexandrite
Hudson Bennett
how old are the diamonds anyways? they imply that pink is somehow "younger" less experienced but that doesnt make any sense since gems dont age.
Leo Myers
thats like asking which type of cancer was better
Grayson Wilson
I'm not saying she needed to stay on Earth and hang out with Steven, either, although I think that's the better of the two options if that is all we have to work with. The Diamonds are not going to treat her like a friend or loved one, they are going to treat her like a pet. She's never going to learn what it truly means to be someone's friend, just their entertainment.
She's never going to learn her own value. She's never going to learn that she can have a life outside of being someone's friend.
That's cause tumblr has an allergenic to straight ship.
Aaron Bell
she never would have learned that anyways. shes not built for it.
Bentley Richardson
>And that's nice, but she's still focused on being someone's friend as if it is the sole point of her existence. At the end of the day, she still wants a friend more than anything. I mean, she was left for six thousand years on her own. I think she's had enough alone time. She needs to heal with a fresh start. And she has that. The diamonds barely know her outside of "oh she was a friend of pink's" She has the start she wanted, away from earth, where she can be herself again. I think it's really sweet. And she can be Steven's friend when she finally grows a bit back on home world.
Lincoln Brown
Source?????
Charles Sullivan
but she'd be so clingy youd have to let her be around while you are having sex, and you know she'd trying to participate.
Aiden Foster
Yeah if connie doesnt put out she's going to lose steven to someone who will. Kiss on the cheek?! are you serious?!
John Brooks
spinnel cucking connie comic sounds like a great idea just from the alliteration.
Nolan Brown
spinel was a dead end anyways.
Justin Sanders
Pearl ain't built for it, either.
She wants a friend because she thinks she needs one. She was MADE to be a friend; she never got a choice about it.
If she can't even get a chance to find out who she is besides being a Diamond's friend, how can anyone say she's grown? She's always going to be the same way she was made: Spinel, a Diamond's playmate.
some people want to live in the matrix. Steven's not staying true to his own philosophy if he insists all gems have the same life changing experience and arrive at the same conclusions as him. (Even though that happens every single time except for spinnel).
Jason Baker
Why is this well thought out post on the subject ignored?
Wyatt Bennett
>Pearl ain't built for it, either yet pearl still cant get over her built in obsession for rose. and there was no indication that steven even really wanted spinel around either. he felt bad for her, but other than that they didnt know eachother at all.
Landon Sanchez
>no ending where Spinel actually just left and become a wanderer who made friends along the way before returning to Beach City at some point. That or perhaps doing that and she shows up in an odd episode or filler of her misadventures
i dont care how many people had her as their waifu, she shouldnt have been talked down after she changed back and steven should have had to shatter or perma-bubble her. it would have been way more kino.
William Cook
That's what I'm saying. I don't want her to be alone forever. Of course I want her to have friends. But she needs to figure out who she is, first.
If you can't love yourself, how the hell are you gonna love somebody else?
Jason Robinson
So basically Wander over Yonder but with even more Cartoony physics?
Samuel Allen
>she needs to figure out who she is, first. But she already knew who she was. She was a friend.
Nolan Reed
counterpoint she can only have a healthy relationship with ME
Joshua Adams
because we want more Pink Pearl, but she got swept under the rug harder and faster than even Aquamarine
Could also have her stumble upon war sites and get some insight on Pink and the war
Connor Davis
It seemed odd how he basically didn't want anything to do with her besides getting her to turn off the injector, like even his parts of Found are singing how Spinel will find someone else to love whereas Spinel is singing about him. Its like he's already hit his quota for former enemies now friends he hangs out with and doesn't even entertain the idea of Spinel hanging around with him.
Isaac Reyes
Would have been shit, literally every redeemed gem were worse than her, pointless Death isn't kino you edgefag
Hunter Martin
Spinel wanting to be around Steven is stupid writing hes a literal reminder of her trauma.
Jack Lewis
No it wouldn’t have.
Jose Turner
While I would like to see a villain Steven can't just talk down and forced to shatter or bubble them for good, Spinel can't be that because she has one of the most sympathetic backstories possible it would be wrong for her not to get redeemed in some way.
Lincoln Flores
I just wanna see Steven be able to fight at his strongest, especially after Change.
Thomas Butler
Both were abandoned by Pink Diamond. Personally, I ship Pink Pearl with Crystal Gem Pearl
Jordan Stewart
>tfw Spinel doesn't go through an Asura arc and punch monsters to death with the power of anger, toonforce, and eventually friendship. >No battle where she dukes it out with someone on the fucking moon and stretch punches a mother fucker from the moon to earth
He was also the one to help her get past her trauma
Dylan Reed
I see steven and spinel as brother and sister
Jackson Cooper
No all he said was some faggy feel good bullshit that doesnt excuse that she was abandoned by his mother for 6000 years. >Spinel I understand you :) >Really? Then you dont mind waiting here in the garden for 6000 years away from all of your friends right? :) >Uh well >Thought so you lying bastard!
Thomas Price
>she’s had enough alone time after 6000 years YA GONNA PUT ME SOMEWHERE? YA GONNA LEAVE ME- SOMEWHERE? YA GONNA LEAVE ME ALONE?
Anthony Robinson
THIS SHIT MADE ME MAD.
SUGAR YOU BETTER HAVE AN user CHARACTER HUG SPINEL THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE
>having only women as friends I would kill myself if I was Steven.
Matthew Flores
>other than Spinel, the movie is otherwise forgettable She's the entire core of the movie There aren't even very many scenes that don't feature her, and most of them are from the first ten minutes before she's introduced Also the diamonds are great too, big lonely grandmas tying the movie together in a neat little bow
Lucas Cox
why was she cracked in the face anyway? it goes again everything we know about the Gems.
Benjamin Stewart
Except she was never actually talked down Steve-O tried that but he was a bitch and she didn't understand his intentions so it didn't work out She only ended up actually turning around after she was given time to wear herself down and get the anger out
Aaron Thomas
Diamond fuckery Possibly a literally messed up gem
Joshua Scott
>Considering how quickly they broke down without Pink Pink Diamond was a necessary component to keeping their empire operational, which they didn't realise until they lost her. (which is what hit Yellow Diamond the hardest during Change Your Mind)
James Williams
Just fucking make another diamond, how hard can it be?
Jose Stewart
Shippers and logic are like oil and water.
Kayden Barnes
Eh, I don't think you can really paint all the Diamonds with the same brush, like at minimum even if they are being a bit nicer now, I can't imagine them being quiet when someone is bothering them. In addition, all the Diamonds have different wants and needs when it comes to companionship, so she might not just be doing the same routine.
Like I think the crux of the matter is whether Spinel is just designed to be a jester, or if she's specifically designed to be a -friend-. Because properly being a friend to someone requires an ability to grow and change.
James Brooks
I think they need a special Shooting Star to make another, but that just leaves the question what their empire was like before they made Pink and exactly how much younger is she compared to the others
>advanced alien being has drawings like this instead of a detailed 3D model
Levi Wright
And what the fuck else is he supposed to do? She's a literal stranger taking out her trauma on someone who had nothing to do with it. He's not responsible for her happiness. The fact that he tried to empathize with her at all is far more than what was required of him.
Luis Gonzalez
Nope, they'd be a professional cosplayer. Their understanding of eachother is superficial and they both like to entertain. So they'd be a combination of what they think the other is. In this case, a smug action hero who's always posing for pictures.
Christopher Ramirez
He should just shut up and stop being a patronizing faggot. Also he is a remnant of Pink Diamond meaning abusing him is the closest she will get to revenge.
Brayden Collins
So you’re saying if your one of your parents wronged somebody, it’s perfectly fine for a stranger to beat the shit out of and kill you?
Chase Lopez
Steven's gem is a very factory reset Pink Diamond so abusing him is revenge.
Maybe he’s not a pussy like you are who would take that lying down and let a stranger beat you up.
Landon Powell
The point is he has no right telling Spinel to chill out since hes an object of her rage to begin with. Reasoning with her is pointless he should have just rejuvenated her and pretended this never happened, and let Spinel become his wife.
Austin Williams
He's been in similar situations like this a bunch of times, and Spinel is possibly the most heartbreaking example. Steven had so much patience with someone like Peridot but with Spinel he automatically went into >Eh you can just find another friend as if he didn't help Pearl, holding her hand, through a very very similar situation though in her case instead of "oh just find another Rose!" he tells Pearl "*you're* pretty great."
Makes you wonder if teen Steven would just perma bubble Lapiss and Peridork without a glance.
Aaron Cruz
Kinda creepy but works.
Christopher King
i think it would've been a little jarring for Steven to redeem 3 genocidal alien dictators that tried to kill him, his friends and earth repeatedly and then to just say fuck it to Spinel, especially since she was clearly traumatized, and Pearl knew who she was.
Eli Cooper
Steven doesnt like the diamonds observe his facial expression anytime he is around them he cant even make a fake smile around them.
Jordan Fisher
They’re just very clingy.
Zachary Lee
No he probably hates them alot despite them changing their ways.
Hunter Campbell
i think it's more than that, listen to the line when Steven contemplates gets his help >How do we reverse this? Oh no... Do I need to get the Diamonds? he says Oh no like getting them would be a bad thing and should be avoided for some reason
Ryder Myers
even then he clearly likes Peridot. Remember the unholy combination of rape and necromancy the cluster experiments were? The show likes to forget that Peridot was a villian because they want her to look cute and funny or whatever. But the cluster experiments were fucked.
Luis Gomez
I feel this only further shows that she was a child, not in the human way in that she was young but that she was created to act childish and would always act childish. It’s no wonder the diamonds didn’t want to give her a colony.
Thomas King
They know the advantages of simplicity.
Leo Johnson
Peridot had jack to do with the fusion experiments she was simply reporting on them you retard.
Hudson Peterson
Pretty sure Peri didn't literally make the cluster, she was just there to check the progress and make repairs if necessary If anything, Lapis was the one that performed a fish genocide and fucked up the entire planet's ecosystem and weather
Isaiah Hall
Peridot didn't make those things though, she said it was before her time. But it's not like she cared about the stitched zombie abominations she was checking and reporting on.
Dominic Stewart
his powers are shit tho. hes the weakest CG.
Brandon Torres
That hasn’t been true for a long time.
Christopher Green
>Can form damn near indestructible shields that function as literal plot armor >Can roll over or literally beat the shit out of people with spiky balls >Has OP healing ability >Can fly >Can possess other people >Can't be poofed >May or may not literally be able to magically influence others with his words
Jayden Campbell
if anything steven is completely broken as a character. not only is he the only one with half humand half gem powers, but his gem half is a diamond. So hes immune to things that instant poof gems, with a diamonds level of gem powers, and i believe hes stated to be the only gem with healing powers at all for some reason.
Colton Morris
That the DA's fault for giving their operatives only gem disabling weaponry instead of idk energy guns for example.
Aaron Peterson
I think it was mostly due to the circumstances. He lowered his shield when she started to calm down, but then the Injector blows up before he can even speak. He saves her and lies her down, but then his friends show up, and he goes to check if they're okay. Then when he returns to Spinel, and they actually try to talk to eachother, the diamonds show up out of nowhere. Not to mention he was feeling like shit the entire day due to his gem powers getting messed up. It really just feels like it was a series of inconvenient events that robbed a well placed heart to heart between the two. Should've given her a hug aswell.
Steven being unpoofable is the only reason the villains are allowed to have one-hit KO weapons to begin with
Hudson Gomez
>as if he didn't help Pearl, holding her hand, through a very very similar situation Pearl was his mom, Lapis was his friend before freaking out, Peridot was an angry little slice of pie, he never hugged Jasper.
James Rogers
Permanent disfigurement that happened during the Diamonds "interrogating" her after Pink was shattered.
Isaiah Morales
I agree with all of this. Steven's behavior was understandable, but it hurts that they didn't have a chance to just talk for a while. I want to see Spinel again, but I'm worried about her getting the Peridot treatment.
>pic No more hugs, Spinel
Carson Hill
>he says Oh no like getting them would be a bad thing and should be avoided >for some reason He doesn't want them taking over Earth
Brayden Williams
Peridot was cute, even as a Villain. Most of her fights were attempts to run away
Gavin Robinson
literally every other CG can do 90% of that and the other stuff they have over him makes up for the rest.
Logan Roberts
>Eh you can just find another friend I don't know if the movie was purposefully saying this was wrong of Steven or not. After Spinel's depressing origin song Steven immediately breaks out into a song which was pretty much just him saying "find a new friend" and it's interesting to note the BGM for the scene did not exactly sound positive, in fact the BGM sounded downright sinister listen to it yourself youtube.com/watch?v=xciuhYI_F_Y and it very purposefully had imagery of Steven pulling his hand away from her.
But then the movie ends with Spinel finding her new friend(s) and it's treated like the best possible thing that could have happened, and I would be extremely surprised if they revisited Spinel her situation won't be anything but sunshine and rainbows so it's very confusing to me what the message was here.
Not to his levels. And when he busts out Pink Steven, he can bring the Diamonds to their knees.
Zachary Clark
YOU OWE ME!
Robert Ortiz
>Steven will never learn to control his hologram double separately from himself >He will never become the bad guy from Chronicles of Riddick
Alexander Hernandez
>You can find a new friend :) AS LONG AS IT AIN'T ME BICH
Evan White
He did access Pink Steven’s Shields.
William Stewart
>be me, corrupted gem >about to snack on this short pale defective gem >it pulls out its own fucking gem and throws it at me >oh god oh fu-
Joseph Miller
Spinel will never be used again, so may as well ship her with a useless character.
Jackson Carter
Pink Pearl was replaced by CG Pearl way before then
Joseph Allen
pink steven is the only thing he has over them, and he has to die for pink steven to even form.
Aaron Ward
He used that guy’s shields when he got his power back.
Daniel Reyes
>Steven pulls a Vergil but with shields I guess he can talk an opponent down twice as fast.
Luis Robinson
Imagine watching all of Steven Universe and still thinking this. Literally one of the biggest points of the entire series is that he isn't his mom, and isn't responsible for her mistakes. Spinel has every right to be upset but she has no right to take it out on Steven.
He could've shattered her for all I care and it would've been justified. But that would go against his entire character.
Josiah Ramirez
Fujoshits jump through many hoops just to get a non straight pairing.
Wyatt Cooper
is there a megalink for the movie?
Christian Scott
Also, Steven has serious road rage going on.
Dominic Perez
>you WILL be friends with the bipolar bitch you don't know, who tried to ruin your life, kill your friends and destroy your planet.
Hudson Nelson
>Steven in a long pink coat with his slicked back Tiger Millionaire hair, shooting enemies with little energy kite shields >Steven getting backed into a corner and pulling his Gem Trigger Man I wish I could draw
Lucas Kelly
Her voice cracking when she said "I just want to be your friend." tugged at my heart
Alexander Wood
yes
Cooper Anderson
>"Uh where did Spinel get the injector and rejuvenator???" >answer was right in front of our faces the entire time bravo sucrose
I was thinking more Jojo or Persona She’s not, and even if she was with Steven, doesn’t justify her wanting to kill all organic life on Earth.
Liam Gonzalez
>Not going in the Nero direction >Movie not having Steven really feel bad about Spinel's situation >Spinel going suicidal mode with the drill and just kamikaze after the presumed betrayal >Steven not getting knocked off the top of the drill by a tearful Spinel lashing out in rage >Midfall is when the powers kick in >Music kicks in >Diamond Trigger activates
Earth is considered precious to Pink, and Earth is why Pink ditched Spinel so fucking up Earth is perfect revenge.
Xavier Perry
You got beef with somebody, you kill their dog? Get help.
Henry Ortiz
He's not really fused with it though It's supporting his physical body as a natural part of his biology, like a second magical nervous system
Anthony Carter
Steven is reaching his emotional disponibility peak.
Dylan Bell
Yes killing their dog is alot of nice psychological damage to them before you take your slow time torturing them. Theres a reason criminals target your loved ones when they are blackmailing your ass.
Juan Scott
Well yeah, Spiniel isn’t exactly sane and does in fact need to get help
Jeremiah Allen
>Steven can now wield four shields
Juan Butler
>His gem double is fighting the villain, things look grim >villain poofs Pink Steven, starts monologuing with the gem in his hand >sword stabs through from behind >human Steven says a one liner between spurts of blood flying from his mouth >takes his gem from villain and limps back through the doorway out into a sunset landscape
Jaxon Allen
user, you didn't get joke there
Nathaniel Myers
Yeah, that sounds like something an insane borderline personality disorder ex would do.
Hudson Barnes
>Implying Steven wouldn't be emo Nero, constantly screaming about Connie
Robert Moore
It's basically like tearing out your skeleton and throwing it at someone
Andrew Howard
Nothing that was posted here matters, since we all know that this movie is like your mother
Nobody ever said pink steve had to be attached to the gem
Ethan Robinson
That's Steven when Connie gets kidnapped by Sneople
Kevin Sanders
If she stayed, she would've been barned and reduced to a gimped husk of herself like lapis or peridot. At least with the diamonds she can be more than just a lesbian farmer who gets developed into a brick. I like the ending so long as we get a follow up on her actually getting better with the diamonds. Which it 98% will because the show rarely ruins characters after a redemption, minus pink diamond.
She wasn't made for pink/rose. She fell in love with pink/rose. She was originally white's pearl. Pink's original pearl was taken by white.
Jayden Cruz
>Considering how quickly they broke down without Pink that time frame definitely wouldnt be nothing to them
Actually that shows how really insignificant the time frame was for them. For the Diamonds, 6,000 years was an eye-blink; to them, the "shattering" of Pink Diamond happened just yesterday, which is why they were still so deep in mourning, even if all three had different ways of managing it.
Hudson Jackson
Peridot farms because its like a scientific process to her.
Luis Parker
>the show rarely ruins characters after a redemption, minus pink diamond. What is Lapis and Peridot
Or how quickly she made them regret it: >hey, I want a colony Uhh, no. You can't even treat your pearl like a pearl. >BUT I WANT ONE, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Ok, fine. Here, fag. >cool thanks >hey, thanks for the colony and all but I kind of don't want it anymore if it means killing all these cute little things on it Uh, no. You wanted a colony, you got a colony. Assert your dominance and take responsibility for this colony that YOU wanted. Be a diamond. >b-b-but I don't want to This is why we didn't want to give you one in the first place.
Luke Perry
>You unleash your stand against your opponent's stand >They start fucking
Blake Lee
They don't need development anymore. They're ultimate forms are garbage because they got BARNED. Same would've happened to spinel if she stayed on earth. Maybe the little homeworld opens up better development for some characters.
early Lapidot, pre-Jailbreak and pre-Barn Mates was fun because it was combining two characters who never met and had no interactions together, so our imaginations could go wild.
Shipping Steven with anyone but Connie is a nono for most artists, lest they get mobbed by the anti-pedo brigade. We saw what happened with SteviDot / PeriSteven.
Nolan Thomas
Once again, never watched the show but for a show I always thought was hugs and compliments, the fact that they didn't do this is absolutely brutal
Josiah Scott
He was 13/14 back then, now he’s 16, a few months from 17. It’ll be alright.
Caleb White
>Implying normalfags don't literally screech about "pedos" banging 17 year olds all the time Teenagers are teenagers, user
One argument that I can understand is that not everything can be fixed with a hug, and the movie takes a 2 year gap between the previous season, so he's supposed to be maturing and realizing he can't just use the same formula on everyone showing up to kill him, until it throws that away and he sings them into complacency. At the same time, he's also the only catalyst for development between characters. His dad and pearl for example. Pearl hated greg's guts because she felt that he stole rose from her, until steven parent trapped them. Or amethysts' insecurities weren't solved until he helped her realize and move past them, because her teammates somehow couldn't do it like he did. But still... a hug might not have helped her get better but steven is a hugger and him not hugging her was a dick move.
>D̶e̶e̶D̶e̶e̶ Garnet: Ooooh, what does this button do?
Easton King
she was designed to be as annoyingly cute as possible. Yea Forums is proof of that
Ian Ramirez
>Steven still visibly uninterested and indifferent even in an edit You guys are delusional
Chase Phillips
Side characters like Peridot were most assuredly "made up as they went along". Pink Diamond becoming her Rose Quartz persona was planned from the start.
She deserves someone better and you know it Someone who treats her better, someone who wants her around
Kayden Cooper
dont forget lapiven getting a ton of shit too even tho it was the one who has more sense canon wise
Brandon Flores
How old is this image because the whole show felt like they had no idea what the fuck they were going for 90% of the time and just threw shit at the wall and saw what stuck.
Rose being Pink the whole time and totally responsible for all the bullshit everyone had to go through is pretty hilarious though.
Cameron Allen
kind of unrelated but what did chance the rapper even do for the movie i couldn't tell at all while watching it
Kayden Kelly
I guess that's the nature of juggling storytelling with an unknown number of episodes. I wish all shows had the popularity of Avatar, though I feel like Bryke really bungled their take on Korra.
Camden Diaz
Damn it hasn't even been a week yet
Austin Miller
I think he co-wrote True Kind of Love, Garnet's song towards the climax. The one they've been spamming nonstop in commercials.
Ryan Adams
>Season 7 has 20 year old Steven >People still whine over him being shipped with Gems
I hate certain people in this fandom...
Noah Turner
People don’t complain about Goku or Naruto
Gavin Williams
because while quite of us anons are in the range of the cluster a spectrum(autism), the people at tumblr are our antithesis, cluster b(or what the scientific community is to afraid to call it, beutism/butism)
Jayden Perez
That song felt so out of place and like an excuse to have another "Stronger Than You" moment. Completely unnecessary.
Hudson Cooper
Exactly
Jaxon Gonzalez
True Kind of Love was a mediocre song.
Xavier Collins
yeah, stronger than you was fucking hype because of the way it was framed. That violin/synth(?) build up while the two strongest characters circle each other, fucking hell that was good. I wish they'd actually use Alexandrite for more fights.
Blake Bell
I think it would have been better in literally any other context. The lyrical content isn't even relevant to the story outside of a couple of lines that are only incidentally related. It's just Garnet being "cool" for the millionth time, but this time it was just there for some half-baked fanservice. In the actual context of the scene, Garnet has no idea what's going on. She has no idea what happened to Spinel or what's threatening the town. She's still back at the lighthouse.
Christian Nelson
Haha more like buttism.
Jayden Allen
This.
What I don't get though is why they kept trying to remake stronger than you? They already had a lot of really good songs. Like A tier songs. Some of the songs from the movie at least as good, if not better, than stronger than you.
Owen Young
I don't agree with that, but he's friends with Peedee, Lars, kinda Onion, Ronaldo, Buck, Sour Cream, he's on friendly terms with Mr. Smiley and Mr. Frowney at least, and even though he's Steven's dad Greg is a solid bro.
Might be more.
Jaxon Kelly
So Peridot?
Bentley James
I took Found sounding so off being because Steven and Spinel are singing the same song but they mean different things.
Steven helps her up and gestures to the outside universe to indicate she'll find someone eventually. Spinel keeps her eyes locked onto Steven for the entire song once she takes his hand and it's clear he's the Universe she thinks he means.
Might as well play to Estelle's strengths. Which makes me wonder if Sucrose lets her cast of professional singers help her write songs, or what's keeping her from doing so.
John Rodriguez
I wish we'd gotten to see more of what drove her to her season one extremely stoic form. I mean, we know technically but I wish we'd seen as much backstory with her as we did with Pearl.
Joseph Morgan
Sounds more like Lapis to me.
Adam Torres
I just realized the lines on her eyes are suppose to be washed up mascara.
It was mainly Rose’s death, the Diamonds are parallel to the Crystal Gems in Season 1.
Chase Davis
Point being, she has befriended bipolar gems and gems trying to kill him and the planet. So there is not much difference with her.
David Jackson
haha, based (or should I say, buttsed)
Levi Johnson
...Did you watch the movie? Because that was pretty obvious.
Jordan Campbell
I think it's a bit more understandable with just how physically and mentally exhausted Steven is at that point, trying to fix everything on a frantic timer and not wanting to take on any more problems than he has to while everything's still mucked up.
But I do think it's sad that Spinel thought that she had screwed up too much to stay with the group on Earth. Especially considering how long it took characters like Peridot to come around after repeatedly trying to kill Steven.
I think it'd be genuinely interesting if they do a bit more with her story than just saying that life with the Diamonds is perfect now, but I don't want to over-hype the idea of her getting another whole plot arc.
It's not that I don't get it, but it still came off badly to me. It's not what I watch this show for.
Blake Wilson
I can imagine being overwhelmed with Pink Diamond's presence and memories would get to be bad for Spinel. After all, it's not as if her most prominent memory of Pink is exactly good. She abandoned her for thousands of years. I can't see her wanting to do anything but move on from that eventually, not be surrounded with it. Have all that love and acknowledgement of Pink as a bandaid for now and then find something new and her own.
Colton Smith
>overwhelmed with the Diamonds and tired of the way that they continue to romanticize Pink, Spinel ends up finding someone else on Homeworld who was abandoned and hurt like she was and decides that she needs a friend I kind of like the idea now. Sue me.
Spinel needed time with herself before she decided to go with someone else. Obviously they can't dedicate half an hour to her wandering around the world finding out who she is on her own (as much as I would like that), but they should have restructured the ending a bit. I would have switched the order from >Spinel stops being an ass >Diamonds show up and she leaves >montage of Beach City getting cleaned up to have the last two swapped, with a few quick shots of Spinel helping to fix things, but not really interacting with anyone. Actually SHOW that she's improved, but can't start over where she's caused so much trouble, THEN the Diamonds appear to give her a new start in life. It's small, but I think it would have made the ending seem less like Steven was pawning her off at the first chance he got.
>Oh, poor Pink, losing control of your world again! >Here, let us help you keep it safe and secure, so you and your little "equal" friends can have fun! >Happily ever after, forever, under our loving (diamond) authority!
Wyatt Peterson
The impression I got was that, as Steven later says, he had forgotten some of the lessons that had led to his "happily ever after". He was tired from years of battles and dramatic speeches, of travel and toil restructuring an empire of autistic alien robot wizards. He wanted to just chill, at home, in Beach City, with his friends and family. He didn't want the work of personally rehabilitating a clingy lunatic murderer (even if he empathized with her). He didn't want to have to explain to another gem, over and over, that he isn't Rose Quartz or Pink Diamond.
Also, Rose seems to have had a certain gut disdain for Spinel, judging by her expressions, her treatment of her, and her total lack of thought about going back for her. Steven is a much better person than his mom, but he is an incarnation of her. He may have that same instinctive, subconscious dislike of her.
Even then, after learning his lesson about embracing change and the need for vigilance and continued hard work, he would have been there for Spinel. It's just that then the Diamonds stepped in, and he figured "well, maybe this'll be good for all of them" and decided to let them give it a shot. He already had a lot on his plate helping otehr people with more urgent needs just then.
Benjamin Ortiz
I mean, it's an ethnic trait. I guess white people can tan or be Mediterranean or whatever and thus be dark, but if someone called a non-white character a name that made fun of their skin, you wouldn't just be like "now hold on, maybe they also hate really tan people and would call THEM 'darkie', too."
Charles Perez
>only knows gem culture >trapped alone on a rock for 6000 years >knows the human "peace out" sign ???
pretty sure the moral wasn't "you don't need her" but more "no matter what, you can get back up on your feet" whether it be from a global crisis, or broken heart. spinel learned that she can start over even though she's been hurt so badly. that it might not ever be exactly the same but it doesn't have to be. I think that's quite a nice moral, and more complex than most. clunky writing sure, but that's SU for you
Jayden Parker
The irony is that hook noses are exclusive to cacasian ethnicities
Kayden Taylor
>Spinel doesn't seem like she'd be spiteful in this way. Her entire intro song was about spiteful jealousy
>As much as I hate using the term >he uses the term ... right
Jeremiah Morales
Most people like Pearl, Lapis, Peridot the most... because they are white-coded. The fucking ethnic gems like Amethyst Negro Lips and Garnet are nowhere as popular
Brayden Butler
Garnet was plenty popular, the benefits of being a not shit character who had undeniably the high point of the show devoted to her in Jailbreak, it was only later her popularity died off a bit because the only thing she ever did was show up to talk about sex-I mean fusion.
As it is Pearl and Lapis both had super rocky receptions due to struggling with writing quality, but, again, still had more to them than Amethyst.
It has nothing to do with any bullshit about coding, something that's only starting to be a thing because it's basically being memed into existence by dumbass tumblrites, and everything to do with those characters getting more effort and being less obnoxious.
Jose Brooks
So this is what it feels like to hate an otherwise universally popular waifu.
James Hill
These lines are not only leaking mascara, but also upturned eyelashes
I mean if it helps any I don't like her much myself, her design is kinda shit and like a lot of SU designs is only salvaged by fanart that changes it wildly along with a total art style shift to something tolerable.
Noah Ramirez
>effort >less obnoxious
You can say that about Pearl, but Peridot and Lapis? Fuck no. You have to be incredibly naive if you honestly believe those three aren't the most popular because they're conventionally attractive.
Jace Ward
Still better than Lapiss
Cameron Martinez
Lapis at the least had a story arc and character development. It was a shit one, and she developed into an asshole, but that's also when people stopped liking her.
And Peridot is a fucking dorito on stumps you stupid fuck. Pretty much the only reason she was liked was because of how hilariously in over her head she was at first and then how awkward and insecure she was, making her seem relatable.
You're basically saying "This character is fucking obnoxious and shit, and doesn't give me a boner, ergo she's totally black" and ignoring literally everything else because it disagrees with your world view. And user, that's pretty fucking racist, and pretty fucking retarded.
>Literally one of the biggest points of the entire series is that he isn't his mom And yet... Just like Pink... He ran away from the Diamonds who unconditionally loved him. The opening scene in the movie where he ditches the Diamonds is identical to Pink leaving Spinel. And I think it was supposed to be too. Though the makesiteasy ending kinda undermines it... And sucks that there's no Patti Lupone for S6+7
Brody Howard
If you see to the right, it's at least as old as the planning for the character design of KO from the OKKO pilot... So fucking years ago. It's most likely a part of the pitch document. (Which makes Ian's lie about Rose even more heinous.)
Ethan Lopez
Peridot was great when she was still a villain.
Logan Lopez
But he does. Didn't he mention several times he can be her friend and that she would find new friends on earth?
He never said anything about wanting to be her friend, just that she can start over on Earth. If he clarified that his friendship was being offered, she wouldn't have freaked out about being left alone.
Charles Taylor
I prefer watching the slightly longer version. Shes so cute, and I love the leadup to the song.
Probably my favourite song of the show now, just beautiful.
>you're delusional >you're reading too much into it >they don't like each other >stop liking things >now here's my post overanalyzing every scene and frame, reading into every word and minute expressions as if the show's crew are utter geniuses in writing and art capable of delivering ultra realistic body language and subliminals, all to tell you Steven and Spinel are terrible with each other. By the way, Spinel and Pink Pearl canonically love each other
After she wasn't, she still held up a bit, but then she got nailed to Lapis and Lapis slide from "Kinda shit" to "Just a huge waste of time" and dragged Peridot with her to be made a bit part.
The better question is why you're so intimately aware of who people are shipping if among people who you hate. That or why the fuck you even care who they ship.
Carter Cook
Given she's almost indestructible, stretches like crazy, and was probably made as a literal plaything for a negligent and possibly abusive demigoddess womanchild..
She's probably for cuddling, and stress relief fucking until she feels better, but also cuddling.
>Why the fuck is the majority of the Tumblr side of the fandom shipping her with a gem she hasn't even met, Obviously because they both belonged to Pink Diamond.
Mason Thompson
>We were both abused by the same person, that makes us besties! >Yay! Tumblr's pretty fucked up.
Kayden Turner
You'll know she truly trusts you when after a long session of cuddling and pounding she turns around and nuzzles up to you before going to sleep because she knows without asking you won't let her wake up alone in the morning.
>why was she cracked in the face anyway? Just like what's going on with Jasper, we will never know. Pink Pearl, Spinal, and Jasper have served their narrative purpose and will no longer be in the show.
She literally said she came there to take out her anger on complete strangers. She wasnt operating with a sound state of mind, dude
Luis Green
The first time you left for work she had to stop herself from crying her heart out, but the first time you came back from work she smiled so brightly it almost literally lit up the room.
She tried to make you "one of those dinner things" once to make you happy, back before she really got that you ate for a reason other than entertainment. Almost burned the house down, but the worst part was how scared she was you wouldn't want her anymore afterwards.
It took almost the entire night to convince her you'd always want her, but it was worth it.
The sad thing is, I've known girls like Spinel and... yeah, relationships with them almost NEVER work out. More likely you'll come home to find your dog in the oven because you got stuck in traffic and she assumed you ran off with Vicky from the office.
Ethan Baker
Sometimes you found her, looking at herself in the mirror, with a different face and build. More of a glam-rock hair cut and a more pointed chin.
It was like she was in a trance, shaking in place, until you pulled her into your arms. She didn't break down, didn't cry, but you could feel that she wanted to.
It hurt more than anything when you couldn't tell her *why* the woman in the mirror threw her away. Nothing you said worked before. The best you could do was rock her gently, and ease her to sleep.
And remind her that *you* would never throw her away.
You had a little box burning a hole in your coat pocket that proved it.
Nathaniel Collins
Closest thing I've had were two girls online who were obsessed with me. One had a breakdown, disappeared, came back and apologized, and came back again. Other one is a major thot who talks about sex constantly and constantly acts for reassurement "that I like her". She probably got molested as a kid or something. I've been trying to get her to change because I feel kinda bad for her, but I don't think I'd ever date her. Neither of them are the "good" kind of obsessed.
Blake Peterson
>You had a little box burning a hole in your coat pocket that proved it. aww
Juan Butler
She didn't really get the idea, at first, the concept was a bit, well, alien to her, not that you'd made the joke at the time. But after a few movies, a few stories, she started to get an idea. And when you were sure of that, well, you decided you'd do your best.
A nice lunch outside, you and her, warm sunlight, like her smile, coming down on a clear day with the birds singing. The dawning look of understanding as you'd pulled it out, and gotten down on one knee.
You'd panicked, when she started crying, but then you heard her laughing at you, and pressing her lips to yours. She had tears going down her cheeks, ruining her mascara, yes, but there was that smile again. Brilliant.
You didn't even manage to finish asking if that was a "yes" before she tackled you to the ground. You didn't have much time to talk for awhile after that...you were...busy...
Gabriel Wood
I tried that “dating a Spinel” once. She almost ran over my dog. He still gets spooked easily.
See I was going to with a comment about how hard it was for my inner sadist to not make it a tragic/schizo ending involving murder and/or double suicide but knowing you despise it appeases my desire to feed off of suffering as well as my desire to write cute sappy drek like this.
Joseph Bennett
Goddamnit I thought I was free of this fucking show! Season 5 gave me the perfect excuse to just cut and bow out. The first three seasons were great and I still love them, even season 4 had its moments.
WHAT RIGHT DOES THIS SERIES HAVE TO MAKE ME GIVE A SHIT AGAIN?!
I just want more happy Spinel, guys. More than anything.
You'll never get any more spinel and season 6 will disappoint you to the core
Julian Reed
Don't get too worked up despite my...it's not even writefagging more just blurbs, it's still garbage. It's just that the entire work manages to barely have 6 whole good ideas in its entire run.
Jace Wood
Teenage girls and those that yearn to be teenage girls are pretty fucked up.
If by never coming back you mean appearing in a multitude of episodes and getting another arc next season. Voice actress has been recording for new episodes regularly. Storyboarders uploading drawings of her post-CYM. The self-esteem commercial was just Rebecca's way of giving a taste of what's to come All signs point to SU entering a new era of orange. Get hyped for Jasperdemptionseason6 and jump on the Jasper train now before it becomes too mainstream.
Carter Adams
I decided to check it out to confirm this
after about 1000 post I found five shipping post with spinel
3 were with pink pearl 1 was with garnet and 1 was with a character I didn't reconise from a different series
I want to gather her up in a bucket, pour her out onto the couch in front of the TV, put on some rom-coms and cuddle
Juan Rivera
the moment i wanted to hug her the most
Ian Howard
She's going to be a Villain again
Thomas Smith
>only knows gem culture >speaks english ???
Robert Anderson
Catching up here. Why is Steven/PD more powerful than the other Diamonds put together? They threw everything they had at Pink and he brushed them aside like gnats.
Adrian Russell
Humans have the ability to change and Gems usually don’t unless they interact with humans. Steven may have started out weak like Pink but he used his ability to change to grow stronger.
Strong defense doesn't necessarily mean more powerful. Even if he is all you're gonna find is theories. They never once expanded on what it means for him to be a hybrid, the full extent of his powers etc. Everytime he found something new the episode was just about him trying to figure out how to control it. After he did they went back to normal as if nothing happened.
Sebastian Garcia
Kind of makes you wonder why Spinel was an issue when Steven can kick White Diamond around like a tin can.
Bentley Young
He reflected their attacks back at them and hurt them, and showed no strain at all while doing so. A powerful defense can be a powerful offense.
Asher Wilson
She got the jump on him and striked him with something that reset his powers. As soon as he remembered his ability to change, it wasn’t even a fight, it was basically him letting her throw a tantrum.
Depends on the stability. If you’re in sync well enough like Garnet usually is, she describes that the name of the components might as well be names for your different arms.
Jace Martin
>If you’re in sync well enough like Garnet usually is, she describes that the name of the components might as well be names for your different arms. God, that's so trippy to think about. Makes me uncomfortable.
Hunter Carter
Does anyone have a gif of Spinel doing that spinning move while fighting steven
Spinels are as made for sex as Pearls (100%). It's just that Gem sexuality is a fucking mess, by human standards, with a relative lack of distinction between between sexual and non-sexual acts.
We don't know other than that it was presumably very far in the distant past and probably not directly related to any of the Earth Colony / Rose Quartz / Crystal Gem drama. PD had her replacement Pearl (Our Pearl) even before receiving stewardship of Earth Colony, and all of Stevens recovered memories involving her seem to be center around Homeworld (which PD seems to have mostly left behind, after getting her colony).
It's possible there could some extremely convoluted story involving Earth Colony drama (eg. there was some point during the time before the big PD shattering ruse when Our Pearl was outed as a Crystal Gem, and Pink Pearl was then made to be her replacement), but more likely it's just more untold backstory of Pink fucking things up. It's been suggested that Pink broke her mind by ordering her to be disobedient, which then represented in the light-form as the dead eye and cracks, even while her physical gem remained intact.
It's from 2013, at least the paper is, not the image itself
Caleb Gutierrez
I did
Nathan Gomez
How are Peridot and Lapis white-coded? You just think "personality and style that's not stereotypical to any particular racial group = white". It's embarrassing. You're the type of retard that would code me as "white" because of my mannerisms, accent and typing style.
Ayden Stewart
hug
Brody Brooks
Damn, that looks slightly better than the one I drew. I dig the hand-grip.
This. Just killing off "bad guys" isn't interesting.
Andrew Wright
Yeah it’s cool, though I like yours a bit better due to the colored hearts.
Justin Kelly
I agree about Peridot and hate that she's only comic relief now, but in hindsight I could already tell Lapis was bland as early as Ocean Gem. And then she just fucks off to leave Steven to plummet to his death (knowing humans can drown)
Sebastian Gutierrez
Sugar, most likely.
Benjamin Powell
That's adorable, user. Saccharine, sure, but I'm a sucker for that sort of thing. I hope you don't mind me compiling that in caps and sending it to friends of mind that love Spinel /that/ way.
Adrian Price
Aw, thanks. I have a tendency to add big toony hearts that float up and pop. Even in sex scenes.
Adam King
I REALLY wish there were more bimbofied Crystal Gems art.
The ending was bad, and actively harmful for Spinel and the Diamonds both. The writers likely just did it for the sake of convenience.
Austin Ward
>Prevents the Diamonds from immediately going crazy and relapsing without Steven there to keep them in check >Gives Spinel the loving friends that she needs at the moment >actively harmful
James Wood
She was playing it off because Spinel was joking about it. Does that make sense still? Not really, but people seem to keep forgetting that the writers of this show are really just not that good. Not everything they attempt is done well or for good reasons or in ways that it works the way they want it to, nor they always have good ideas as to what they write including dialogue. Just because you see notes dating back years refering to shit that happen recently doesn't mean they're some godly writers that plan everything, on the contrary in fact that's just basic. You come up with ideas, notes and you save them for when you can figure out a way you can use them later in the future. The difference between a good writer and a mediocre one is that a good writer can use those ideas they saved, even years later, in ways that they don't create any plotholes or shit that makes you question characters' behavior.
I still think it's far more likely that a diamond just wouldn't give a shit because they're so out of touch, don't know what to tell you user
Sebastian Foster
So when exactly are these pictures from? I'm happy to finally get more Jasper but the fact that it's happening after the diamonds being redeemed and 2/3 years passing in-universe is VERY annoying.
Anthony Myers
Thank you, this is perfect.
Isaac Ortiz
They're from earlier this year
I won't mind the wait for it as long as it isn't rushed to fuck
Brody Thompson
>Implying it's not going to take place before the movie
Oliver Stewart
Anyone have that comic where the chest held the new jacket with a note from Rose?
Anthony Hughes
That'd be great.
Ryder Jenkins
>Going back to no-neck Steven and never seeing Spinel again >Great
Camden Ward
>We get Spinel >it's just random cut aways to her still standing in The Garden
You really have to ease into any relationship with mentally fragile people. You gotta know what they need before committing, otherwise things are going to blow up some day.
Adrian Lewis
Sometimes the best thing you can do for someone is get them professional therapy.
>Are the two "components" still conscious, or is it a fused consciousness that thinks like a solo entity? It's like a network. Two separate intelligences doing the work of one. They can form a more or less individual consciousness, or they can maintain more of a separation.
You can tell her to make that face whenever you hug her.
Ian Clark
Damn, that's some really good linework (and nice art). Once I realised though I can't unsee Spinel's design having a face shape similar to the matsus.
Easton Barnes
>scoop up Spinel while she's moping on the floor >she pathetically tries to slink out of your arms like a snake, until her limbs are all piled up and coiled on the ground under you, while you still hold her tight >you hear a weary sigh, and then her head gently bonks against the side of yours >"You'se an idiot for putting up with this"
>tmw when you come home late from work/a night on the town >Punished Spinel is waiting for you in a dark living room, clearly not happy >Ya late user...Where ya been? >she twirls her scythe one-handed, menacingly.
>'Working. *Talk about boss, work, etc*' >Don't act like you have a reason to be scared, will be taken as you 'knowing' she has a reason to be angry >Ask her how her day was/etc >Trust yourself and trust her
Sometimes I forget that gems other than Amethyst can transform.
Sebastian Evans
>Ywn become fight buddies with Spinel Hugs and kisses are fun and all but you must remember the answer lies in the heart of battle. And she's pretty good at it already There's nothing wrong with some good old fightin The famous carnival song is called entrance of the gladiators for Gods Sake
What no, he was just depressed. Having colored is just a thing music artists do.
Luke Torres
He just dyed his hair dude. Don’t even know why you gotta bring up Finn’s VA. Well that and he was going through depression but I think he’s doing better now.
She’s a designated best friend gem, her feelings towards Pink and Steven are nothing but friendliness
And nobody but this site cares about Steven ships, because this where the majority of the male fanbase is
Anthony Campbell
I wish Spinel could have met S1 Steven, he would have appreciated her then.
Brandon Nguyen
White: Mind-control Blue: emotional manipulation Yellow: lightning Pink: shields and shield constructs Pink had the best powers of the four.
Joseph Parker
He also would have been easily emotionally manipulated by both her and the Diamonds
Angel Nelson
Spinel needed to go with the Diamonds because they match her level of intensity/insanity. Steven would have been screaming nuts after 5 more hours with her
Evan Mitchell
incredible, beautiful now write her reaction at the funeral
Thanks. I sent it to one pal who said it was really sweet. The other hasn't seen it yet, but she already has a big crush on Spinel enough to draw self-insert fanart so I hope it makes her happy.
Colton Brooks
Pink Pearl was abused by White, not Pink.
Honestly though, wasn’t Pink Pearl White’d long before Pink even went to Earth? I wonder how she felt to come out of her porcelain doll coma to discover that it’s thousands and thousands of years later and Pink’s dead.
He's a massive faggot user The only male character on the show worse than him is Ronaldo, and that's mostly due to that one episode Even fucking Lars became someone you'd rather be watching than him
Kevin Jones
That's a HARD disagree from me my dude. That may have been the case in seasons 1 and some of 2, but after that he genuinely grows into his own and you start to really like the guy as he matures. And now that he's the fucking character I've waited for h to grow into from the movie, I wanna see what season 6 has I'm store for this new steven
Lincoln Wilson
Steven can't be the worst character when Peridot while she's written by Zuke exists
Logan Wright
Zuke isnt on the show anymore.
Tyler James
I know but I'm saying if we're talking about bad character, Peridot by zuke was the worst even compared to Steven. Regardless of whether she's off the show
David Miller
Steven continued to be a faggot right up through season 5 where half of the conflicts were entirely his fault I'm not gonna deny that he's better after having grown a literal spine for the movie, but there's a fair chance that season 6 will be before the timeskip
Peridot would be in the same boat if she was the main character and audience surrogate in every single episode Though as far as I'm concerned she still got a better deal than Jasper
Ethan Kelly
Loving Movie Steven. Still got a big heart, just knows when to put his foot down. Also really loving how his powers have grown.
Jacob Hughes
alright i just fucking binged this show from season 3 onward and finished the damn movie. 1.Steven gets his way again 2.Spinel is too annoying even for Steven which is weird, but i love that even he has a limit 3.deus ex machina all over the fucking place 4.this show makes me yearn for fucking lore on this gem ridden planet earth but because kids show and so much sex innuendo, we aint getting shit 5.Blue Diamond needs more development because for one, she has been frozen in character development and two, I wanna fuck that bitch
oh yeah and Pink Diamond is a selfish shithead that we never see get punished for her bullshit, which sucks and whomst i also wanna give a good pussy ravaging
Not that user but I couldn't stand how Zuke wrote Pearl either. She became none of the elegance half and all of the awkward half, plus she didn't suit their style at all.
Ryder Collins
Examples? It's been a while since i watched through the show, cant remember any pearl episodes boarded by Zuke.
Asher Collins
im new to the fan discussion of this show, im also retarded as far as knowing "good" or "bad" writing unless its obvious. What about Zuke's writing was bad?
I also have a good friend who was friends with Zuke a bit before she worked at CN. When I encountered Zuke, they were a fucking asshole for no reason.
Zuke had a really bad habit of making the character extremely ooc to push her own personal ships and if she wasn't doing that she leans way to heavily on making them quirky and with no nuance to their character
Isaac Gutierrez
>"healthy queer relationship" >"forgiving others but respecting yourself"
I really didn't get this vibe whatsoever. Lapis was consistently an asshole that had Peridot whipped. I guess it only makes sense.
Joshua Gutierrez
Keep in mind, Zuke was also abusive to her girlfriend irl. So her idea of a "healthy relationship" is VERY warped.
Nathan Wood
Is anyone going to post some FUCKING examples before this thread gets bumped off
Nicholas Diaz
I can't believe that tang of all people was straight caught in a predatory relationship with a cartoon network boarder
Yeah, that's what I meant by "I guess it only makes sense."
While Zuke's episodes were airing I honestly thought Tang was like, one of those friends that's practically a clone. Got any more info on that?
Kevin Sanchez
i actually liked episodes where Peridot was adapting to living with Steven and the gems, was that all Zuke? I hated how fucking miserable and brooding Lapis became though, like she was so unfun until she decided to become a martial artist or some shit
Charles Stewart
Here you guys go, maybe one of these days I’ll fix it up kek
can i get some info on Tang? feel kinda bad for them now lol
Julian Price
I know Tang drew a comic about their relationship, i dont have it saved sadly.
Easton Barnes
I'm in the same boat as you user, I honestly don't know anything. Didn't follow either of them so I don't have a clue.
Nolan Brooks
>Steven is a much better person than his mom, but he is an incarnation of her. He may have that same instinctive, subconscious dislike of her. The rest was bullshit but this is correct. Steven is the only one who seems to actively dislike having Spinel around, which shows especially when she doesn't have her memories and is just acting like her regular self. There are multiple times where Steven looks irritated at her when everyone else is perfectly fine having her around.
This At best, he just ignores her Makes Spinel's comments later about him liking her seem kind of forced Lucky for us that her "annoying" mannerisms weren't pushed too hard, and only made her more endearing
Connor Cruz
She's a coon.
Eli Taylor
I remember that comic. It was the one about her biting into styrofoam cups from stress, yeah? Fucked up shit.
I remember some posts she made about how traumatized she was by the whole experience. I don't remember the story, but I think it was your bog-standard, controlling "I am your only source of safety and love" type bullshit.
Mason Butler
I really think he was just completely focused on the injector. No one was around to help, he lost all of his powers, and as far as they knew, the entire world was at stake (yet again).
I'm not really sure how else you expected him to act around Spinel. It definitely was not the time to be playing games and joking around.
Chase Miller
How is the rest of that bullshit?
Ryan Ramirez
He never even said that to her though, he didn't even talk to her. He just ignored her. If it was really a problem, why didn't he open his mouth? He didn't want to interact with her at all.
Because it portrays Steven positively when he doesn't deserve it.