Why is this run praised as such a big milestone for the X-men? It didn't do anything new at all...

nothing was retconned though, except many attempts to fix Xorn but that was origionally fucked up by Morrison anyway

go to rehab and stop going on grindr

>Morrisonfags are like a cult
>Are you going to work in a cock-sucking reference or a drug reference too?
That's what they do in their cult? Everyone suspected this all along.

Because he expanded the X-Men from Claremont dregs, even though he's doing a bunch of riffs on classic Claremont stuff.

Xorn rules btw

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>Because he expanded the X-Men from Claremont dregs
another meme answer. No one here has actually said anything that Morrison did that wasn't done before.

>more buzzword responses

As expected.

>said anything that Morrison did that wasn't done before.

yeah Morrison just did it better than most

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It was just a fun time and a change of pace. The whole xorn magneto thing was editorial enforced and probably morrison burning shit down on the way out as a result. And the special needs group was fun.

Sublime is one.

Morrisonfags are truly the worst fanbase in comics

You should keep posting the same thing and just rephrasing it slightly

Byrne did it years before.

I like that the school became an actual school and some of the mutants he introduced.

But after the Quentin arc it went to shit

Being good is more important than being "important"

Unless you're into cheating, Morrison wasn't even good.

>Fantomex
>cool

>Plus it's by far their best-written era.
You know it was a black hole of quality when fucking bendis helped fix it.

Most X-Men comics once Claremont gets going all the way up to Morrison are kind of a clusterfuck of continuity to deal with. Morrison's New X-Men and Whedon's Astonishing both focus on a pretty small team of X-Men and don't really require you to know shit going in.

imagine being so far up your own ass with Morrison hate that you think Bendis did ANYTHING to "fix" X-Men

Whedon, Carey, Spurrier were all better than Morrison's run. The good era of X-Men was quite a few years after Morrison left

Imagine being this much of a pleb

why is doing something "new" a marker for quality

>this is what people who didn't read 90s comics actually believe

I did like mutant culture becoming a thing. It made sense.

All of his characters look like they have down syndrome.

It was something they kept telling you existed, but they couldn't show you because they never worked out what "mutant culture" was. A comic couldn't tell you what mutant music sounded like.

you just can't see the forest for the trees

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that's not New X-Men

mutants population boom, leading to mutants replacing humans in a few generation, population of mutants in the millions leading to the existence of mutant culture, mutant celebrities, and humans that want to be mutants.

he also made the mutants teachers, the mansion a proper school, before Morrison they were a dozen people living in a mansion that pretended to be a school

secondary mutations

the weapon plus programmas, and wolverine as being the number 10 (X) creation of weapon plus, with captain america being the first one, something Marvel is using right now in a book

he outed Xavier as a mutant on public tv

around that time, we had books about life in a mutant China Town (District X), and a book about mutant reality tv celebrities (X Statix)

basically, if that run had been irrelevant, Marvel wouldnt have taken such a big effort to retcon most of it.

Because if there are actual standards for quality, things can be done badly, and that's problematic in current year.

>mutants population boom, leading to mutants replacing humans in a few generation, population of mutants in the millions leading to the existence of mutant culture, mutant celebrities, and humans that want to be mutants.
done in the 80s and 90s
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>he also made the mutants teachers, the mansion a proper school, before Morrison they were a dozen people living in a mansion that pretended to be a school
Generation X
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>secondary mutations

just copying Stan Lee on a lazy way to make new powers, mutants had gone though changes to get new powers all the time
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>the weapon plus programmas, and wolverine as being the number 10 (X) creation of weapon plus, with captain america being the first one, something Marvel is using right now in a book
so...he numbered things? wow, what a brilliant idea! There were always more people experimented on than Logan.
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>he outed Xavier as a mutant on public tv
ya, that's something that should have been done earlier, but I'll give ya that
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>around that time, we had books about life in a mutant China Town (District X), and a book about mutant reality tv celebrities (X Statix)
Dazzler, Lila Cheney. Not new ideas.
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>basically, if that run had been irrelevant, Marvel wouldnt have taken such a big effort to retcon most of it.
never was retconned away, cause the only thing you listed that was new is Xavier coming out and that stayed.

Ssecondary mutations was a stupid, pointless, random, unexplained ideaSo was mummudrai..

I would use Secondary Mutations as a induced thing, you can induce extra mutations in yourself, at the cot of becoming a little less normal.
Beak would train himself deliberately until he suddenly sprouted feathers and psychic flight or whatever, then graduate to become Rotterdam's premier local superhero.
Which is what the X-Men are, team of superheroes and I felt that the wider X-Men School could of been a great idea for producing new heroes for Marvel's wider line.

Morrison's X-Men could of been a good coda to Claremont's original plans.
After X-Men #300, Xavier dies for good defeating the Shadow King, the ultimate enemy. Doctor Magnus (Magnet) takes control as headmaster and they do dumb 90s stuff after Claremont leaves, hemmed by Magnus's self-segregational instincts. Dr. Magnus retires to Genosha, to live out the remainder of his artificially extended life. Headmaster Summers takes over and opens the school students.

>just took old ideas and did them a bit more
You can apply that complaint to any idea in existence if you try hard enough. That's basic Bible shit, Ecclesiastes 1:9.
Anyway, it's the little things that make a work well liked e.g. Depicting Charles as carrying around a handgun at all times which he would never use on another living being and exclusively maintains for the purpose of killing himself if the weapon of mass destruction that is his mind ever becomes in danger of getting hijacked was a neat character defining detail.
Also the idea of The World was pretty cool.
Also worked well as a "show don't tell" way of getting you cluing you in early on that something's wrong when "Charles" shoots "Cassandra Nova."
>Morlocks
Not really the same. The Morlocks were a subterranean community. The "ugly mutants with useless or nonexistent powers" aspect to Morrison's run were more like real life regular people who just happen to be burn victims or have crippling diseases or whatever. Not that I think this aspect was all that important, but I wouldn't confuse it with Morlocks (and it's funny you bring them up since Claremont lifted them straight from H.G. Wells).
>Sublime
>Byrne did that already in West Coast Avengers (crappy Vision Quest).
That Which Endures wasn't really the same as Sublime either. That Which Endures wanted to keep on making better creatures. Sublime on the other hand was terrified of other organisms that could threaten his existence and all of his plotting was to make the stronger ones die so he'd be able to survive forever without competition.

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>lifted them straight from H.G. Wells
Naaaah, just the name because they're 'forced' to live underground.

>Naaaah, just the name because they're 'forced' to live underground.
You're saying yourself in that same sentence it isn't just the name. They lived underground. And they were lower class / marginalized.

the problem was there was not enought quitely. the fill in artists ruined the run

Who was the first telepath ever shown to get a nosebleed? Jean in Peter David's Grey Hulk/X-Factor fight?

and they were super ugly. it's not subtle!

Morrisonfags are mentally ill.

It's loved as well as it is due to the fact that the X-Books were a clusterfuck of fail and AIDS from around 1998 through 2001 when Morrison took over. Shit was THAT bad and Morrison rebuild the franchise.

But the original morlocks are the dominant species (kind of?). They're not hiding out of fear or because they stand out as freakish.
I dunno, maybe CC did just take Wells; morlocks and turn them into muties, but if you're making a set of muties who've shied away from society underground, what are you gonna name them after?

is though

>1998 start date
>Not when they had Cyclops abandon his family to go after Jean Grey after she came back and ruined the industry.
user the X-men started degrading in 86 and spent the entirety of the 90s being a chain reaction of trainwrecks that demolished the industry via kicking off a massive chain reaction of other trainwrecks in imitators.

The Morlocks were ugly but most of them, at least that had screen time had useful/normal powers.

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