>every celebration of female characters and their fusions is shown as flawed, either through permanent or changeable attributes (too tall, too scrawny, too fat etc)
>in comparison all the immaculate-looking women are villains you're supposed to dislike initially
>the celebration of man is shown as a flawless buff Chad Thundercock with an anvil jaw, a full head of hair, and model eyebrows
>i.e. mostly things men cannot affect through effort
If this was any other show it would be fine, but coming from SU it's hypocritical as fuck
Every celebration of female characters and their fusions is shown as flawed...
Thomas Martinez
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Jacob Fisher
It’s about self image and relationships. This is a father and a son. He still sees his dad as a hero, his dad sees him as a man already. So you get Hero Man.
Landon Price
dialate
John Walker
Yeah it's kind of like if they made a character that was a women and was really sexy and that was their defining trait, I think the whole flawed bodied women thing is good it's just that they wouldn't do Steg if steg was a women
Oliver Long
>Yeah it's kind of like if they made a character that was a women and was really sexy and that was their defining trait
Hunter Carter
And his short fat balding dad can't be his hero through action but remaining himself, he needs to look like a superhero stereotype with a gay Tumblr filter to do so?
Oliver Thompson
That’s just how Steven sees him
Jackson Scott
>can't be his hero through action but remaining himself
Greg's still greg and he still looks the same, Steg's essentially a new character
Adam Walker
literally Stevonnie debut
Steg is just... Advanced Stevonnie
Ethan Parker
I'm aware, but isn't the entire point of the body acceptance movement that we're "perfect the way we are" and that we shouldn't change for the better even if we could, and not "you're okay I guess but you could be a lot better"? That's why it's saying e.g. fat people don't need to work out to be beautiful etc.
Jacob Russell
I don't think the body acceptance movement is "perfect the way we are" just "fine the way we are" and that beauty standards are way too high, and improving your appearance should be for you instead of other people
Isaiah Cox
It’s not saying Greg or Steven needs to be muscular, it’s just a part of both, subverting expectations, and more importantly, adding in a Jojo reference. No one is saying they need to be Steg all the time to be valid.
Luis Bailey
user, you have a grossly wrong understanding of the body positivity movement. The message isn't "don't change", it's "don't change only because society pressures you to"
Joshua Myers
Stevonnie is just treated as attractive, not drawn as such (oblong face, long/pig-like nose, frumpish body), and we know it's not just the limitations of the artstyle when characters like White Diamond exist. Sure those characteristics are the result of combining Steven's and Connie's visual traits, but that's the entire problem, Steg has nothing in common with neither Steven nor Greg.
Hunter Hill
No. The Steven Universe fusions have always just been a physical representation of how the characters view each other and their relationship. Steven and Amethyst see each other as cool to hang out with and their relationship is built on bonding over their mutual insecurity, so they manifest as Smokey Quartz. Steven sees Greg as and Greg sees Steven as someone whose grown into a superhero. Music is a big part of their relationship. Hence they fuse into a hyper idealized rock star.
Nathaniel Ward
So how does Garnet see Amethist?
Jonathan Collins
Those multiple long shots of her legs weren't accident, they very deliberately pushed this "Stevonnie is extremely attractive" angle Connie nor Steven would ever get that reaction from Lars and Sadie
Aaron Clark
Wild, brutish, and hedonistic. That's where the punk-ish parts of Sugilite come from.
Gavin Martin
I'm not so sure. I think Stevonnie is genuinely intended to be attractive, just in an ambiguous sort of way.
She necessarily looks slightly uncanny because she combines male and female traits. But I wouldn't be surprised if Sugar finds that attractive.
Jack Adams
Damn those are some good sketches
Samuel Collins
The entire show is about how Rebecca is mentally fucked up and realized she loved cock. Every character was based on her experiences as a bisexual. She probably raped a woman like Pearl did. And now she's fuckin an obese guy. I sont even have a point I didnt even read this post.
Bentley Evans
OP your arguement is invalid because I want to fuck the shit out of Greg.
Zachary Wood
Steg is about embracing a non-tyrannical masculinity. In Jungian terms, you have to rescue your dead father and resurrect him.
Tyler Evans
>All the Gem x Gem fusions have shown some sort of mutation (multiple limbs, multiple eyes, etc).
>The only Gem x Human fusion we had seen so far, Stevonnie, was apparently perfect.
>Steg shows that Gem x Human fusions also have weird mutations.
I guess this proves that Stevonnie must also have some mutation. Which is to say, they probably have both a penis and a vagina, as that's the only part of them we haven't seen.
William Ross
Yeah, she's definitely intended to be attractive, but they also intentionally made her ambiguous-looking instead of just making her classically attractive in an androgynous way, whereas Steg is just flat out a classically hyper-masculine attractive guy who forgoes all the visual traits of his constituents.
Eli Peterson
>She
Got your pronouns wrong there. Let me help you with the canon pronouns:
SUNSTONE: She / They
SMOKY: They (??)
STEVONNIE: They
RAINBOW 2.0: He / They
STEG: Fuck me daddy
Lincoln Moore
Opal is hot you bitch
Jaxon Johnson
>ballet dancer
Don't let her take off her shoes
Mason Sanders
she's balding
Oliver Allen
Indeed. Opal is good, tall, multi arms, confident, that voice
Eli Brown
We already know Steven Universe is quietly blackpilled.
Jordan Parker
Maybe Steg has two dicks
Can you imagine what Rebecca's NSFW sketchbook must look like?
Dominic Carter
This is common place. Look how nu-Ra is praised for diversity and body positivity with it's chubby, fat, stick, and flat chested muscular girls but all the men have fit athletic builds.
Asher Peterson
Damn
Bentley Sanchez
Greg and Steven only see the best in each other with no reservations. Steg is nearly perfect because both of them trust and love each other wholly. Steg is basically on the same level of stability as Garnet.
Luke Harris
>Greg sees Steven as someone whose grown into a superhero. Music is a big part of their relationship. Hence they fuse into a hyper idealized rock star.
Not just that but the song they sing is pretty much a power ballad to father son relationships.
"Independent Together" has more to do with a son growing up to be his father's equal than it does about Pearl not being a slave because her master got laid and exploded.