Person explains why "Joker" is problematic

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Anyone who argues against this is a white incel and a piece of shit.

This movie is a mirror of how rotten American values have become.

People should stop seeing characters as general statement about whatever group they think it represents and start seeing it as THEIR OWN CHARACTER! and stop doing generalisation.

I don't think it's about what it represents so much as how many fuckboys are going to be inspired to pick up daddy's gun and start shooting things while singing the theme to Malcolm in the middle.

That's kind of hard when the point of a story is to have a message or statement and so you're going to consume the narrative under that assumption, if a movie isn't going to have some kind of message than it has to tell the audience that

>when the point of a story is to have a message or statement
Maybe sometimes, it's only about the journey of a character and how things went for that one doesn't mean it apply to others.

>if a movie isn't going to have some kind of message than it has to tell the audience that
I disagree, I think it's when IT HAS a message that it has to be clear about it.

Literally who and why should their opinion matter at all?

Counterpoint: If we don't show the consequences of a failing system, what drive is there to fix the system?

First they came after comedy and now they're coming after drama. They won't stop until everything fits their social agenda. Thank god Clockwork Orange didn't come out nowadays.