>Russia's culture minister says adults who read comic books are "squalid." Vladimir Medinsky insists comics are intended for children of 7-8 years, who are learning to read: "for an adult to read comics is to admit that 'I am a moron, I read comics.'
twitter.com/27khv/status/1169290249073246209 ------------ >“I generally don't like comics - it's like chewing gum, it's not food. The comic is aimed at a child who is just learning to read, but to an adult to read comics seems to me squalor, ”Mr Medinsky said. >Agency “Moscow” quotes the minister in a different way: “For an adult to read comics is to admit that“ I am a moron, I read comics ”. It’s probably possible to collect them, it’s fun, but don’t read it. ” It is clarified that the Minister of Culture opposed the creation of comics dedicated to historical events. >The statement was made at the opening of the 32nd Moscow International Book Fair, which takes place from September 4 to 8 at VDNH.
Not a "moron": he said "debil", implying someone mentally deficient, not just stupid. >This from a guy who said Russians are superior because they have the 47th chromosome
Logan Young
He's 100% right. And watching cartoons is even worse
Luis Bell
Mudinsky actually champions patriotic propaganda cartoons though
Brandon Murphy
Where's the lie though?
Jose Baker
>culture minister What the fuck does that even mean?
Adam Foster
Vladimir Putin himself has responded to the comic controversy
"I have been promoted to head of meaningless office by great and terrible Putin! Please to taking me seriously!"
Dylan Collins
>Russians >Culture Pick one, only one.
Logan Cook
comic can be much more than kiddie shit tho, it's not the medium but rather the content created in it's boundaries, for example, BLAST is a mature ( in the sense that it adress mature theme such as depression, suicide and the complexity of the human relationships) comic, the problem with nowadays comic is that the publisher take the audience for dumber than they are, and so they publish subpar story but with the mandatory banter and action scenes.
Bentley Howard
>be Russian >be autistic
I'd rather be autistic than subhuman.
Jaxon Scott
>minister of culture Imagine having a population retarded enough for something so blatant to exist. At least in the US we have to disguise it as independent media channels so people don't catch on.
>was once mighty rival to USA >now not even in top 10 of worlds largest economies
Oh Russia
Dylan Cook
this
James Long
Russia is always trying to turn their kids into robots
Luke Thompson
> ultra right mafismo state based around a masculine strongman does not approve of people enjoying childish things
Russia is a country that borders on being a failed state. It's economy is on the same level of Italy's (it will never properly recover from the collapse of the USSR) that's basically had to cultivate an image of extreme masculinity in order to make up for its growing levels of poverty, drug addiction and crime.
That's why russians do the mature thing and chug vodka on a playground all day
Elijah Cox
>Medinskiy He is a Jew who plagiarized his dissertation and is busy writing shitty propaganda books on topics like "Stalin did nothing wrong" and "Western Europe has sucked since the very beginning of its history". Fuck his opinion.
Jeremiah Johnson
What is with these old, out-of-touch caucasian idiots and their "anything drawn/animated is for kids" shtick? This stodgy-ass mindset's been going on since the 1950's. They need to be shown some shit with a waifu they like, then told the same thing. Watch how fucking quickly they elevate that particular title/show to "for all ages". Unrelated, but similar, My dad always berated me for liking video games (80's kid, so, yeah, games have always been a thing for my generation, and parents were just perplexed) and said comic books were for kids...then when I was 16, I saw some doodles on the border of a newspaper section that he'd thrown into the wastepaper basket. May he rest in piece, Captain Uptight was doing doodles of Goofy!! Anyone ever get the feeling the deriders actually LIKE animation/comics/videogames, but are ASHAMED, and feel that they would be seen as immature by the somewhat emotionally/imagination-stunted old men in their peer group, who hold the mentality of "Fun is for children, adulthood is all seriousness"?
Nathaniel Baker
We already had this thread. It's clear the man is an idiot.
Henry Cooper
Did the other thread finally fall off the board?
Christopher Anderson
>Amerimutt criticizing anyones culture. lol
Grayson Butler
>It’s probably possible to collect them, it’s fun, but don’t read it. What's that for a retarded take?
>Russia's culture minister says, They don't like comics because they just don't get it. Thus, everyone should be forced to feel the same... Pathetic and predictable.
>>Russia's culture minister says >Chernobyl was result of CIA tampering, not shitty Soviet engineering >Stalin was great man, did nothing wrong >all of Europe is Hitler >KGB good boys, did nothing wrong >Stasi did not exist, is western propaganda >Gulags not exist, is western propaganda >Holodomor did not happen, shitty Ukranian peasants are liars >Vodka good for health, drink 1 litre every day
Jonathan Taylor
Other than Stasi and Vodka, I believe Medinsky did say all that stuff, actually. Also, "Russians are a superior people because of an extra chromosome".
Adam Cooper
Hello, time traveller. How is the life in good old 1997?
Basically. Books are propably the most brainlet form of media because in order to understand them you only have to know how to analyze words. With comics, you also have to know how to analyze pictures, so they require more knowledge to understand them. People only praise books as the peak of intelligence because they have been around for longer and because a wall of text is much more intimidating than a picture
Luis Parker
>It’s probably possible to collect them, it’s fun, but don’t read it Is the nigga really implying that hoarding comics but not reading them is okay?
Lincoln Myers
what's up with that huge dip in 1995?
Julian Reed
all the social weight and disaster of 1990's have culmitated then.
Noah Gutierrez
HAHAHAHHAHAA, nice
Logan Fisher
>275% of all babies aborted Incredible
Elijah Rivera
Someone was butthurt enough to post statistics straight from propaganda sources. Christ almighty.
Aiden Garcia
Reverse capitalism bull trap
Gabriel Cruz
back then they had half of europe to leech from
Dominic Foster
Great job, Yea Forums! You must proceed to hate Russia. Carry on, go...guys.
You see Jimmy, only our way of life is wholesome, pure and correct and therefore we must cherish and protect it. That is why our media is infinitely better than those of everyone else, they never lie,
If Russia wants to be admired, it should do something worth admiring. So far we've got a culture minister saying >Things I no like are objectively trash Which isn't very inspiring
Jonathan Ramirez
We have an old tradition here in Russia - the ministry of culture goes to the most retarded man in the whole country. The second most retarded man takes the ministry of education.
Jose Martinez
>from Propaganda sources Probably, but without any sort of citation, he could have just made them himself
Aiden Sanders
Maybe he should worry about the 50,000 protestors at his doorstep rather than comics.
Elijah Howard
It is from this guy. Russian blogger who has been spot on the issue of russian demographics for the last decade. His articles are filled with every bit of info that I as a russian shill need to fight off the anti-russian retards that sites like these are so filled with.
>see out abortion is decline haha >Manage to be higher than US, or Authority might as well turn their eyes away >life expectancy manage to be lower than literally lot of third world even than my third world hole >Lower abortion cause no population increase
Daniel Wright
they were all siamese twins and triplets due to radiation mutation
Thomas Gomez
>275% of all babies aborted Literally how? Russians must've went into fucking overdrive just to spite babies
Brandon Wilson
hi Anatoly, how's your buddy Richard Spencer doing? Still think it's 'diversity' that's dragging Russia down?
Here you can see Karlin talk in his own words, refuting his critics, by calling them illiterate
Thomas Edwards
It's fucking cold over there. You gotta stay warm some how.
Leo Davis
>rational wiki Holy shit, I knew this board is a left wing/liberal containment board but this is just plain pathetic.
Carter Martinez
I am russian myself, you mong. He took it from here most likely, or any other similar website: ruxpert.ru/Haceлeниe_Poccии ruxpert.ru/Пpoдoлжитeльнocть_жизни_в_Poccии The website is basically handbook for propagantist, but most of the sources are either other propaganda sites/literature or complete bullshit. Best case the source is federal statistics service, which is.. fine, but I personally would take with a grain of salt.
Gavin Parker
Americans don't have a ministry of culture Because they have no culture other then murder and child molestation
Jaxson Jones
Russia's policy since Putin was installed seems to be "If we can't win, we'll just make everyone else lose harder than us."
Christian Jackson
so post a better source Karlin
Cameron Ward
fuck off pony horsefucker
Jacob Harris
>ultra right lol no >its growing levels of poverty, drug addiction and crime. All 3 have been in steady decline for almost 20 years >It's economy is on the same level of Italy's Only nominally, Purchasing Power Parity is on the level of Germany, making it 6th in the world PPP also shows China as the largest economy in the world, which it is
>the virgin karlino >the chad rationalwiki Go cry about it on /the_donald
Juan Nguyen
>Americans don't have a ministry of culture Because Hollywood etc is doing just fine on it's own, doesn't need the government shilling it. Also, the majority of popular movies and music are made in the USA >b-b-but popular doesn't mean good And modern Russian art is neither good nor popular, at least when people see American art, they recognise it.
Cameron Cook
>It is clarified that the Minister of Culture opposed the creation of comics dedicated to historical events.
There's the problem. He doesn't want comics because most Russian comics/games/film usually tend to be introspective and take inspiration from the shitty things they did in the past and you can't have that now can we? Hurr Russia stronk
Lincoln Martin
>other propaganda sites/literature When the stats are bad like in case of the AIDS epidemic or data from a decade ago then they are 100% honest When the stats are good that means they are fixing the numbers and muh propaganda machine
Dylan Jenkins
No one denies that goods in Russia, like lives, are cheap as shit
Lincoln Young
Well he is a Jew, probably doesn't want anyone digging up nasty facts about the Cheka and NKVD And God forbid people find out Yakov Sverdlovs ethnicity
what about the visual art in the comics? he might as well say you're a retard for going into art museums because only children enjoy books with pictures in them
Henry Evans
>PPP The last refuge of a scoudrel
Christian Clark
>Implying the Government doesn't meddle in Hollywood all the fucking time >Hollywood "culture" >American "art" >Popular things = good Dios Mio
Matthew Bennett
>Nominal Dick measuring for American satraps Useless for measuring quality of life or military capability
Joshua Phillips
>b-b-but popular doesn't mean good >muh obscure russian nasal fluting is the height of culture!
As expected
Anthony White
>Stalin was great man, did nothing wrong That one's true tho
Austin Thompson
Shred that strawman, Johnny
Jason Jenkins
>Period of high abortions >Less people getting abortions next generation Oh wow it's like that's how it works or something.
Andrew Hernandez
Why do any of you care what some Ivan says about comics?
Caleb Turner
YO WHAT’S UP RUSSIANS, QUESTION!
Why do you all seem like a bunch of meaningless cunts whose only purpose is making Putin feel good? Pinocchio was more of a real boy than most of you cyka blats.
Gabriel Rivera
Which is why it's in percentages and not raw numbers, dumbass
Christopher Perez
Westerners are more obsessed about Putin then Russians
Kayden Jenkins
Yea Forums is full of homos so they get triggered every time Russia is mentioned
Brody Reyes
Since Putin? That's American education for you. That was our motto for at least 800 years.
Christian Foster
Because Putin makes you feel bad mostly. We just keeping him to spite you.
Adam Rivera
>cutting off your nose to spite some ither guy's face
Yeah, that's Russia alright
Justin Bell
>be Russians, be invaded more than your average nation through history >those invasion always beign especially brutal >shit, we need security and stability fast >cue in autocracy and veneration of the ruler as a personification of security and social stability >500 years later still the same societal and governmental formula is in place and it works for them
And then they have to deal with Americans online who drivel about their Individuality and cargo cult of Progres solely for Progres sake.
David Rodriguez
I'm still trying to figure out what that fucking retard brain graph even means by the percentages. Is it abortions in relation to live births? So in 2017 for every 2~ births would there be an aborted fetus? And in the 60s were there 2 aborted babies for every live child?
That is the worst graph I've seen since fucking secondary school.
If my interpretation is correct, that isn't exactly something to laud, JUST managing to only kill off 1/3 children on purpose is hilarious as a brag of progress.
Mason Moore
Note how they all rise and drop in almost the exact same pattern, almost as if the deaths aren't going reported over a certain quota.
Landon Powell
>I may be under the yoke of slavery, but at least it was made domestically. Go back to drowning your sorrows in vodka, Vlad.
They quite clearly vary over the years, while the overall pattern remains the same Almost like there was a stable Government and a windfall of Oil money that allowed them to recover in the early 2000s
Jonathan Jenkins
>did nothing wrong Hold it right there commie
Alexander Mitchell
translation?
Hunter Campbell
The nosedive that happened since the end of the 90s IS impressive, and if the trend continues that will mean they finally ended a half a century long problem
Jose Nguyen
>Eurofags need the state to tell them what kind of culture to consume
Thank god I don't live with you buffoons.
Nathaniel Hernandez
Shut the fuck up KULAK
Logan Perez
>involuntarily calls his countrymen autistic
Nathan Mitchell
It's too bad Russia doesn't have any comics people want to read, like the US, France and Japan does.
Josiah Gutierrez
>his country removes great works of it's literature from the school curriculum because the book contains the word "nigger"
Sebastian Mitchell
i believe the text say CRAWLIING IIIN MY SKIN, THESE WOUUND THEY WILL NOT HEAAL
Evan Cook
US and Japan*
Oliver Taylor
It is good there is no Tsar It is good there is not Russia And it's good that God's not here
Only yellow rising dawn Only icy stars above And the eons passing by
It is good that there is no one It is good that nothing left It's so black and dead in here
That it never will be blacker And could never deader be No one has the means to help us
And there is no need to help.
Dylan Martinez
>he only get's exposed to culture in the classroom and state mandated bullshit
Bro, American's consume culture voluntarily, they don't need some shitty government to tell them it's good or bad. If the Government says it's bad in the first place, we take extra interest in it. Europe hasn't had an impact on world culture in the past 50 years, and that's being generous. Why else do you think all of your precious "European cultural elite" ends up moving to the United States?
Xavier Stewart
This really smacks of old Soviet propaganda that American culture is decadent.
Mason Morales
good grief that is depressing
Levi Jackson
In the context of when it was written it was pretty depressing:
Thank God there is no Tsar Thank God there is no Russia Thank God there is no God
Only a jaundiced twilight Only hoary stars Only illimitable years
Thank God there is no one Thank God there is nothing So dark, so dead
It could not be deader Shall never be darker No one to help us And no need to help
Enjoy watching your grandkids read Stan Lee in school instead of Twain or Hemingway
Adam Carter
Russia has no international pull to speak of other than being one of the most notorious practitioners of communism sending most people to gulag. That being said, mutt comics sell like ass outside the States, so I wouldn’t be surprised if this was directed to those reading manga.
Ryder Brooks
I've never learned English professionally so to speak. But every time I read this official translation I want to the find the translator that did it and murder him slowly. There are good translators, like the guy who translated most of Pratchett's books in Russian, and then there is this guy.
Jack Sanders
Russia has international pull in Belarus and Kyrgyzstan
Dominic Lewis
Manga readers in Russia would probably first murder the minister before they give up reading it.
Luis Allen
>forgetting about the most watched YouTube non music video
Frankly, they could read diddly shit in school if they wanted to. It's not the school's job to teach them about culture, it's a person own responsibility to educate themselves about things they don't need for a job.
James Howard
You got a point It does sound a lot better in Russian
Adrian Jackson
And what did you thought it would be saying considering the picture? Story of fluffy rabbits running over a meadow?
Jackson Clark
America has hundreds of different cultures, it doesn't need a federal bureaucracy enforcing one particular culture
Jace Powell
>America has no culture
Jace Lopez
drinking overpriced shit that passes for a coffee, worshiping everything Marvel churns out, driving electric cars, vaping and eating avocado toast is not culture.
Jaxon Jackson
Just like the founding fathers intended
Robert Morris
yes
what about culture of gettin shot, even when one is a corpse
Zero Hedge is a batshit insane Austrian school finance blog run by two pseudonymous founders who post articles under the name "Tyler Durden," after the character from Fight Club. It's essentially apocalypse porn. It has accurately predicted 200 of the last 2 recessions.[citation NOT needed]
Liam Cruz
My two year old watches that shit on Netflix all the time. It's pretty harmless outside of Masha being kind of a little shit.
>One project that had enormous DOD support was Man of Steel – the first film in the DC Extended Universe. However, when Phil Strub first read the script he thought it was terrible, that ‘we could never work on this stupid thing’. The Army’s ELO reports from that time first record their involvement in Man of Steel in February 2011 but it took six months of negotiations for the DOD to approve support. They reviewed the script multiple times, sending it back for further revisions throughout March and April. In the end the only support the Army provided was some vehicles for a scene filmed at Edwards Air Force base, but in exchange they rewrote the script multiple times. based
Justin Price
>It’s probably possible to collect them, it’s fun, but don’t read it. Well, seems like your average VARIANT-COVER-loving Comicbook Nerd that keeps shit Mint is still in the clear while parents reading something to be informed about what their kids read is not. Good to know.
Adrian Roberts
You are nothing but a braindead cow, just waiting to be slaughtered.
Austin Green
Head of the propaganda machine
Jackson Baker
>hundreds of different cultures Not its own. All come from migrants who being them in. The US itself has no culture except mass shootings by neo-nazis/bullied faggots and sending aid and their people to die for our interests in the mid east.
David Martinez
>Why else do you think all of your precious "European cultural elite" ends up moving to the United States? So they can make easy money off your people?
Caleb Sanders
>Stalin was great man, did nothing wrong He really is. >muh 20 million All those were enemies of the state and the revolution. Everyone who dares step out of line needs to executed together with their entire bloodline
Matthew Nelson
He is right but i am not stopping reading comics
Jason Rogers
at last, a loyal comrade!
Oliver Hernandez
I hope we can ship off all of our Marveltards to the gulag. We will pay good money too.
Tyler Butler
>It’s probably possible to collect them, it’s fun, but don’t read it
Who gives a shit about what some old ass russian bureaucrat says, he's probably just fucking mad that Mosfilm isn't raking in billions of dollars in capeshit money
Ryder Moore
Based russians.
Juan Butler
>i'm superior because I got 47 chromosomes Yeah that's how genetics works m8
Zachary Gray
Cкaжитe yжe фopчeдeбилaм чтo peчь шлa пpo иcтopичecкиe cyкa кoмикcы, чтoбы их пoпoбoль oт кeйпшитa yтихлa нaхyй и oни зaткнyлиcь co cвoим "LOL HE'S RIGHT XDDD"
Connor Robinson
Since we're gonna have this thread non-stop for the next 6 months, could we at least talk about lubki prints and how they are one of the most clear predecessors to comics? It's been years since I read it but I don't remember Scott McCloud talking about them, and they are pretty comic-y as far as I can tell.
Sadly the radical left controls media and education in the US.
Gabriel Lee
Having 47 chromosomes gives you down syndrome, you retard.
Lucas Robinson
Usa doesnt have a minister of culture? Jesus fucking christ.
Grayson Mitchell
>Russia Who cares? These faggots are borderline third world now. Fuck 'em.
Carson Robinson
Nope. Instead it has a Veterans Affairs because of the many casualties the US suffers for being Israel's Foreign Legion.
Austin Jackson
Thats not what a ministry of culture does shit for brains.
Jason Johnson
Thought police in current Russia’s case.
Ayden Long
>purges all his generals right before the Germans invade >purges all the doctors right before he has a stroke
Aaron James
>Yea Forums is so full of Putin cocksuckers that they'll literally bend over backwards, even go so far as to call themselves "fat and stupid," just to defend Russia Have some self-respect.
Nathan Hughes
But europeans are fat and stupid.
Nathan Torres
Kill yourself you stupid ass ruskie bitch. Putin is a huge fag and so are you, now get on your knees and suck my dick, bitch.
Hunter Flores
But that isn't true, huckleberry finn and to kill a mocking bird are both part of US public school cirriculums and they have the word nigger in them.
We even read them outloud.
Why do you need to tell lies, Ruskie bitch? Because you feel so insecure about your awful country? Sad.
Luke Carter
China is the true superpower and we are all its bitch. They are realizing they can't control us anymore so they are destroying the planet. Chads