Why does every other post-punk album sound so pretentious and annoying...

Script of the Bridge is based af. Strange Times is my personal favorite since they sound more whimsical if that makes sense. It explains why the Album cover looks so fucking weird

How did you all first find out about this band? This was my dad's favorite band and he always played this album in the car when I was growing up (way before these types of sites existed). I'm always pleasantly surprised whenever I see them mentioned.

I completely agree with this take OP. They are the most sincere post punk band by miles. I think Mark Burgess is just a unique dude who genuinely cares about what he is saying rather than putting on some front. No other band from that era could write anything as resonant as Second Skin. That song is akin to a religious experience

>Dude I probably listened to more post-punk than every other poster on this board

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I got them recommended to me through Spotify's Discover Weekly. I believe it was Swamp Thing that I listened to first. I love that song and the album as well

>What post punk bands have you done complete discography dives of?
Joy Division, Magazine, The Fall, Ludus, A Certain Ratio, The Smiths, the list goes on...
I was just researching about groups from that particular scene and came across them.

I found out about them here about 5 years ago. They are hands down the best thing Yea Forums ever did for me, probably my favorite band. Thanks bros

i like fontaine dc's first album

the take that killed Chris Ott for good KEK

>The Chameleons have 4 great studio albums, 1 Great EP and 1 great compilation (The Fan and the Bellows), all of which rank among the very best of the genre. GOF have Entertainment and Solid Gold.
Really? No Song of the Free? Even Go4's recent stuff is pretty good.

Again, Strange Times is a great album, but the earlier Chameleons material follows the post-punk formula so strictly. Keep in mind, Joy Division, Gang of Four, Killing Joke, PiL, Wire, The Pop Group, The Fall, and Bauhaus were pioneers. The Chameleons came years after any of them, and were less experimental. They were really part of the second wave, along with bands like The Jesus and Mary Chain and The Wedding Present. The fact they were a classicist post-punk band in the indie/alternative era is weirdly conventional/conservative for a genre that tends to be defined by experimentation. It seems weirdly autistic to say this very conventional (though admittedly high quality) band is the best in the genre, despite not being as innovative as most of the other major bands.

best moment of that thread

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About 3 good songs on that album m8

It's actually the other way around

>The Chameleons came years after any of them, and were less experimental.
I don’t think any of those other bands were doing the U2 guitar delay effect thing like the chameleons did. That makes them sound more unique to me. That said, Wire were the “best” of these bands imo. But The Chameleons made songs that hit me harder desu, more soulful and universal, qualities you don’t find in post punk ever

buddy had a music blog back when bloggers were the gateceepers. people actually called him by the blog name, it was fucking weird
either way he knew i liked post punk and recommended them and the wipers in the same AIM message

I’d honestly say 7-8 are good songs and a couple are great

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I like The Chameleons, but I legitimately don't understand how you could think they're more soulful than Joy Division, Gang of Four, Public Image Ltd., or Bauhaus. Ian Curtis is all depressive angst, he sounds like a hopeless guy who's about to off himself (which unfortunately it turned out he was). Gang of Four are one of the few political bands that genuinely sounds personally pissed off about the social issues they sing about. Bauhaus have a lot of very bleak, emotional songs. John Lydon is kind of an annoying guy, but he's certainly passionate. Wire is great, but if soulfulness is what you're looking for than I can't understand why they're your favorite, as they're one of the most conceptual and emotionally removed post-punk bands there is.

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THERE MUST BE SOMETHING WRONG BOYS

JD felt super detached and shellshocked. GoF is basically punk in the vocal department lots of energy but not depth or resonance. There is a seeking quality to the chameleons, it’s more human and everyman. There’s hope in the music unlike almost everything else you’ve listed

Comparing The Chameleons and Gang of Four is just dumb. 2 completely different bands setting out to do different things. This is why umbrella genres like post-punk are retarded.
>Their debut is basically Joy Division worship
Wrong. Script of the Bridge has 2 guitarists. Heavily effected with delays and reverb. Atmospheric soundscapes and synthesizers. JD's sound is firmly rooted in punk with sparse and industrial influenced production that plays to their strengths.

Completely disagree. It's nice you're passionate about The Chameleons, but the way you dismiss the others is absurd. Gang of Four is very idealistic, and there's a ton of depth and passion. Joy Division is achingly emotional. You're not fairly considering them, and this is just making your claim to be more into post-punk than anyone more blatantly retarded. You need to acquaint yourself more with the key artists, especially if you want to pretend to be Mr. Post-Punk.

You failed to really say anything meaningful here. So The Chameleons are a lot heavier on guitar than Joy Division. They still sound a lot like Joy Division. Though that distinction is interesting to point out, given The Chameleons' obvious influence on dream pop.

Yes, Gang of Four is a lot different than The Chameleons, but I was responding to the OP's implied comparison. You're sperging out at me for your own shortcomings.

>I like The Chameleons too, but if you'd honestly take them over Gang of Four, there's no hope for you
Gang of Four is literally a one-album wonder>Really? No Song of the Free?
Not even Solid Gold. Honestly, both The Chameleons and Gang of Four are meh

I'm sorry you have extremely bad taste

I’m not the OP

I think that is a good album too, user. I had never heard them before I saw them open for Idles a few years ago. I went back to the same show the next night with the sole intention of leaving after Fontaines DC. Never listened to Idles again after that night but I listen to FDC quite a bit still

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trips never lie

Had a chance to see them in high school. Seriously regret not going

PIL sounds fucking abysmal mate. You have to be lying or retarded to find enjoyment from that shit

Your taste is fucking abysmal

Will everyone please be kind to each other? Some of you are sounding like right metal head cunts

Script of the Bridge sounds closer to the first couple U2 albums than it does to JD (way better though)

I first found them in a sharethread back in like 2012 when I was a teenaged goober. I didn't really appreciate them at the time but I revisited them when I got to college and started getting into punk and post-punk more and they blew me away.

forgot i have this, need to get a proper frame

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I love that album. Super daring of a band so closely associated with the ultra macho skinhead scene to do such a flowery, pretty record. I do like how it still has a bit of punk sloppiness to remind you that its being made by a bunch of working class yobs.

You should check this out newoblivion.bandcamp.com/album/demo serious Second Empire Justice worship.

>Joy Division is achingly emotional

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Deerhunter literally are better than the forgotten buzz bands of the 2000s lol
Hell, do you see anyone talking about Surf Curse or some shit now

Deerhunter are definitely not better than Prefab Sprout, that’s fucking insane to even suggest

>Their debut is basically Joy Division worship, but poppier.
what? it sounds nothing like Joy Division. it's really somewhere between early U2, Killing Joke (on heavier tracks like Don't Fall) and dream pop

Kill yourself Drone fag

I don't know, The Chameleons are just derivative and philistine, and while I can see the selling point of Gang of Four being emotional about the politics, the music itself is so meager and Jon King's voice is so annoying to me. I guess I'm not that much into post-punk since Joy Divison and Wire are the only two bands I don't have any issues with

It's closer to dream pop than post punk

What are other chameleons albums that are good? Also other albums like script of the bridge. I'm desperate for new music.

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NOW THE STORM HAS COME

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Everything from their debut to strange times then listen to the Tony Fletcher ep and Dreams in Celluloid.
>other albums
Lowlife sounds similar to the Chameleons also listen to the For Against In the Marshes ep.

Thanks user

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All of their albums are worth listening to even the final one with the horrendous cover

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ive heard claims they were pioneers/an inspiration on a lot of dreampop, what do we think mu?

I think it's revisionism and that most dream pop (post-punk adjacent ones inclusive) were influenced by Cocteau Twins.

Cope