WHY DIDN'T STEVEN GO GET THE FUCKING DIAMONDS THE SECOND SHE CUT EVERYONE UP? THEY'RE 5 MINUTES AWAY VIA WARP PAD
WHY DIDN'T STEVEN GO GET THE FUCKING DIAMONDS THE SECOND SHE CUT EVERYONE UP? THEY'RE 5 MINUTES AWAY VIA WARP PAD
This is the biggest plot hole, it’s not like Steven hates the diamonds or that the diamonds wouldn’t have helped
Writers can't do shit right
>Steven takes Spinel to the machine
>"hey do you remember this thing? the thing you're using to kill my planet, you remember that LOL?"
because Steven's a stupid whiny fuckhead
He was panicking and needed reassurance and comfort, not giant rock mommies (that's probably why he went to Greg first and not Lapis or Peridot even)
She would have beaten the Diamonds tho
>try and run
>get cut
>power get fucked and cannot warp
CHANCES THROOOOOOOWN
NOTHING FREEEEEE
Ohhhhhh that makes sense
the giant rock mommies literally made every single gem and gem tool. they could've instantly fixed everything and taken the giant needle out of the earth
HOW
AND WHERE THE FUCK DID THE NEEDLE COME FROM? SHE SHOWED UP RIGHT AFTER THE BROADCAST WITH IT FILLED WITH PINK CUM
>Random crazy bitch about to kill everyone
>M-muh feelings, muh comfort
This show is by and for brainlets, I swear
He doesn't have his gem powers. How the fuck is he gonna activate the warp pad without his powers?
He couldn't even put things in lion's mane with his powers on the fritz. Could he use the warp pad?
what about after he cut spindle? he could've just warped then and told them everything, or one of the other gems could do it for him
>tool created to make rebellious gems forget and get back in line can be reversed by REMEMBERING
not only is this a dumb replacement to just executing them, it doesn't even work right.
How? White Diamond could just directly control her, Blue would make her cry so much it would prevent her from fighting optimally, and yellow would just zap the shit out of her.
They weren't there anyway. They were in their ships.
Might be why it's not a mainstream weapon. That'd be pretty OP if it was a permanent solution.
White and Yellow would ice her, but I doubt Blue's powers would work; they couldn't even stop Lapis because pic related
He still got cut so he couldnt warp
The Diamonds wouldnt do jack shit, they didnt when they saw the earth in its poisoned state
he probably coudlnt even warp anymore, he didnt even tried thou
Or he could have gone to Peridot, Lapis, Bismuth, or literally the ENTIRE TOWN FULL OF GEMS that could have bubbled her, but nope. Steven is a fucking retard.
Having the diamonds resolve the conflict would have cheapened the story, even if you feel it was such an easy option, Steven was capable of handling himself, I mean one of the themes was that he doesn't need to run to either set of sisters or aunts for help like he would have at the beginning of the story. He's changed. Stop trying to invalidate a good action drama story. Go complain about the weapons she got or something in another thread.
The Diamonds are still new to helping out, and just straight up dislodging the injector could've made it's load blow prematurely like Peri warned. Plus like 2 hours ago he was trying to make a point that he was fine by himself and didn't need overbearing aunts in his life
>Can't bubble a Gem.
>Can fuse with a human for an entire song.
he literally warps later in the movie, to The Garden
and this was before he cured himself with uh the power of believing in himself
and he could've had a messenger anyways or hell the warp whistle
there is literally no reason not to get the Diamonds and iirc Steven even contemplated doing just that at one point
most homeworld gems are very close to their original state. the rejuvinator probably was just used mostly to give pearls to new owners pretty casually since being reset isnt a big deal
Go get the diamonds? But then they might have smothered him some more! Ugh, the earths not worth that!
Nope, Spinel is the one who warped them
so you're saying any gem could've warped Steven
Spinel warped him to the garden because Steven would NOT know where that is
The Diamonds still dont really care about earth, its a reason why they wanted Steven to stay
Can’t use the warp pad? Checks out. Doesn’t rush to get another gem to bubble spinel? Nope.
Plot would have deemed it to not work anyway though. Either it would take too long and Spinel would have reformed, or even if they did bubble her they would have immediately released her to try to get her to stop the injector.
>The Diamonds still dont really care about the earth
really
that's your explanation, they adore Steven and genuinely taking his advice about being nicer to heart I think we're suppose to assume they understand how much Pink loved the Earth too. they'd literally trip over themselves to help Steven if he asked for it.
It kind of seems like Spinel might have had a pipe dream of a plan beyond just hurting people
>reset Steven's gem and get herself reset
>Kill Steven with the poison
>Have her reset-self once again befriend the reset Pink-Diamond that would emerge from Steven's corpse
I mean it wouldn't have actually worked because there's a reason they scrapped rejuvenators in Peridot's era, and there's a bunch of other gems that know what happened and wouldn't be killed by the poison, but I'm not sure if Spinel was still hoping for that anyway, or if she was just lashing out with whatever she could get her oversized mitts on and it's just a coincidence that you can connect them together like that.
>timeskip 2 years
>Lars still looks the same
So is he officially done ageing?
Then why didnt they help at the end?
You stop aging when you die
because Steven didn't ask, when they saw the planet like it was they chalked it up as it just being a hideous planet that doesn't mean they would have tolerated Spinel if Steven got their help which would have taken no time at all
He doesn't really need to eat anymore.
Does he still breathe?
literally everyone looked the same except Peedee very slightly
which pissed me off a bit, they really should have changed their designs to emphasize that Lars is being left behind
Get Peridot, Lapis, or Bismuth to warp him to Homeworld. Or use the warp whistle wherever that went. Or fucking call the diamonds with the direct diamond line.
Also, Onion is still the same. I thought he would have begun Yellow-puberty.
His heart beats at a significantly lower rate and he doesn't hunger for food or water which means his body doesn't require much work to function if any work at all. What's he going to do when he vastly outlives Sadie?
dude, the movie is just an year later
>even if they did bubble her they would have immediately released her to try to get her to stop the injector.
At least Steven would have looked like less of a dumbass in the process. With her bubbled they could have asked the Diamonds for help with the injector, wherever the fuck she even got it from.
And Steven kissing the ground is dumb, they had a fountain that did the same shit.
Even the fucking kitten looked exactly the same.
2 years.
Steven is 16
two years, they could have at least changed some of their hair
they went all out with the Crystal Gems and Steven but with the townies they were clearly like meh whatever
And he didn't know that would be the solution
if you really want to be precise is 1 year and 4 months, give or take. Steven is 14 years and 8 months old by the end of season 5
I think he meant Lars isnt aging
the rejuvinator makes sense as a gem tool though because as with everything else its designed with GEMS in mind
in a normal situation you hit everyone with it and problem solved becuase there's no left to remember shit and anyone who was one the sidelines would too scared to step out of line
>WHY DIDN'T STEVEN GO GET THE FUCKING DIAMONDS THE SECOND SHE CUT EVERYONE UP? THEY'RE 5 MINUTES AWAY VIA WARP PAD
He went to Lapis, Peridot, and Bismuth, three top-tier experts of (1) Gem tech and weapons, and (2) Gem free will.
If Peridot, Lapis, and Bismuth thought the problem was one that could be solved by just running and getting the Diamonds, they would have said so. Spinel showed up with a doomsday device that had been haxed for maximum effect and a memory-wiper that nobody had ever bothered trying to find a cure for.
Learn to No-Prize, kids.
>there's an active school shooter!
>instead of calling the cops to come and save me, I'll call my therapist to talk about my feelings
Are you being serious?
I mean, did you defeated the shooter first?
right, but what about ALL THE OTHER GEMS THAT STILL GOT THEIR POWERS AND COULD DO IT?
Peridot or someone else from the B-Team could quickly go back and get the diamonds, or one of the cured corrupted gems could go... Steven isn't the only one that can use the warps.
It's more like after the shooting is over, a teen calls up his parents before a therapist because he's understandably shook
>they would have said so
No they wouldn't, they're as stupid as Steven. They stressed how dire the situation was there really was no point in not getting the Diamonds they have a direct line to the vast resources of Homeworld; Steven specifically wanted to know who Spinel was at that point of the story and asking the Diamonds really should have been the obvious solution.
If the same events went down without spinel getting cut, She would just hack n slash left and right any gem in her way and reset them.
If she gets to homeworld, its a field day as long as she keeps stretching
>He expected competent writing
But seriously it is just Wrath of Khan as a musical for homosexuals and women.
>Left someone out in space
>They get mad and seek revenge
The anime equivalent would probably be the filler arc from DBZ known as the Garlic Jr. Saga where Garlic Jr. comes back from the Dead Zone and seeks revenge.
I'm just GLAD it finally gets to die like all the other worthless gay hipster trash cartoons.
what SU did to you to make you so insecure?
Whatever solution the diamonds could've come up with might not have aligned with Steven's way. For starters they'd shatter Spinel on the spot for starting shit, and maybe they'd try to pull/blow up the injector. If that ends up poisoning the earth, then even better, Steven gets to live on Homeworld since the planet is fucked now
>he thinks su is dead
you do no research and will keep setting yourself up for disappointment Yea Forumsutist .
You're grossly misunderstanding the Diamond's current characters, they would not let the Earth be destroyed now after everything they do not want to disappoint Steven that's probably literally top of their To-Do list.
>active shooter
Spinel didn't do something to kill the gems, she did something to fuck with their heads. A therapist isn't a bad idea for figuring out what to do. But that's still missing the point of what I'm getting at.
Steven to the Diamonds: "My friends have lost their identities!"
Diamonds: "We're still having trouble getting used to not thinking of them as property, so this is a bit out of our depth."
Steven: "But surely you know how to reverse the rejuvenator?"
Diamonds: "Never had to. Never wanted to."
Seriously, Bismuth, Lapis, and Peridot know Gem tech. They would have known if this was something the Diamonds would have been able to help with. And they're also better equipped for at least evaluating plans for how to help restore the identities of Steven's friends.
they wouldnt shatter Spinele, they're really trying
They wouldn't have done so intentionally, only if they thought it would help. Steven himself tried yanking the injector out and things got slightly worse because of it
Because if he does that, there is no story. just enjoy this song-and-dance sing-a-long movie for 8 year olds or don't.
I think they'd basically just show up, poof Spinel, then basically just shrug and go "Iunno".
Why would they diamonds know anything about stopping the injector or healing organic life? Why would anyone invest time into learning how to reverse something that doesn't harm gems?
Just explain the situation to them, Yellow is practical enough to really work on a solution. The injector only needed to be smashed or perhaps they'd know how to turn it off considering it's not like only Spinel could control it that would be extremely bizarre. I really don't think the Earth would have been threatened for that much longer if they got the Diamonds involved.
>WHY DIDN'T STEVEN GO GET THE FUCKING DIAMONDS THE SECOND SHE CUT EVERYONE UP?
Because Earth is his responsibility, not the Diamond's?
Using the warp pads wasn't the problem.
Steven isn't going to pass his problems off on to anyone else before finding out what the fuck Spinel's malfunction is. Dragging the Diamonds into the mix would have only resulted in Yellow instantly smiting Spinel with the wrath of an angry god before Steven could address her problems.
Steven didn't want her destroyed, he wanted to know how he could help her. Otherwise, he'd have deleted her with the scythe as soon as she stopped the drill.
If Bismuth knew what the rejuvenator was but not Pearl or Peridot, it is likely a discontinued tool. It obviously doesn't work too well if gems were able to recover their memories under broad circumstances.
Diamonds would have been like, "yeah, that weapon is junk. Give it a few hours & your gems will be back to go."
instead of growing, he learned to clone himself
>Steven: "But surely you know how to reverse the rejuvenator?"
Diamonds: "Never had to. Never wanted to."
Okay but this is still retarded. In the larger scheme of the plot threat, the giant poison injector aimed at the core of earth is obviously the more pressing danger than a memory wipe, even if the memory wipe is spooky and scary. Even before Steven knew exactly what the injector was doing, it was pretty obvious that it was going to fuck up Beach City at the least. Instead of trying to assure the safety of at least a few hundred people (or as we later discover, the actual entire population of the earth), he spends all his time trying to fix the psychological state of his four closest friends.
Just as with everything Steven Universe, the moral of this film was the opposite of the story it tried to tell. Steven proved the primacy of in-group preference. He would rather save his friends than save the world. This movie was just one nightmare trolley problem, and it presented the answer that none of us wants to hear.
The diamonds can't use the warp pad and the time it took them to actually show up wouldnt have changed
no joke, he was at every plce Lion teleported to when they were looking for Amethyst
>What's that smell!?
>I don't smell anything
>Of course you don't, you live here
Based Yellow
Based manhattan
I think I’ve actually heard my mom say this when she visited me, the entire exchange was so familiar
Das a gud song
>there’s an active school shooter!
>instead of calling the police I’ll slice the shooter in half with a scythe that removes all the shooter’s memories
>I’ll spend the entire day with them clinging to my arm in an attempt to be buddy buddy with me until they remember the events that made them want to be a school shooter in the first place
>when their paranoia that I’ll abandon them causes them to pick back up their guns, I’ll travel with them above the clouds explaining that there’s always a chance to change for the better
>they’ll reject my message and try to shoot me but I’ll protect myself with my crystal navel shield while they slowly draw their own conclusion that shooting the school won’t fix what happened to them in their past
>allowing me to give the school shooter to the police to be doted upon for thousands and thousands of years
I can already fucking hear it
>While i would definitely want to help, your the one whose been telling me to accept everything as it is instead of trying to fix it Steven
I actually missed the entire white diamond arc before watching this movie.
Does White Diamond always talk like that, she speaks like she has a sarcasm switch stuck.
Yes. She's learning. Steven basically roasted her and called her a child for acting like an idiot, and shattered her "perfect world" illusion she had kept in place.
So now she's trying to be better, but it's been two years, which is like, a second for Gems.
Didn't Spenil see a broadcast about Pink Diamond being shattered?
Better yet, why not call upon the Cluster to remove the injector?
And what happened to all the bio-poison in the land and water?
Why didn't Steven use his dick to pacify her?
These gems probably paid to get tickets, do gems have jobs now? If so do they have worker rights?
>And what happened to all the bio-poison in the land and water?
They said that Steven's saliva could fix it.
Wich wouldn't be so bad if the fuking thing wasn't so powerful that it could completely destroy organic life if completely injected.
Steven was reset to how he was at the start of the series. So emotionally dependent on the Crystal Gems and not really mature enough to be willing to ask for help from anybody besides them when he needed it.
Oh fuck, that's actually a really solid reason
If the injector could nut its entire load in one go, why didn't it just do that at the start
how did steven climb up sheer surfaces that were at sub-90 degree angles
You heard the mayor talk Greg into not only putting on the show, but waving the cover charge and discounting the merch. There's no way at all she's going to let the gems have workers rights. She's going to milk them for all they're worth until Steven wises up and talks to her about it.
why didn't everyone get new designs after being poofed
Shut the fuck up
so they didn't try to move the injector because it could explode and let loose all the poison. at the end of the movie...
the injector lets loose all of its poison and it exploded
why were character heights STILL out of scale? there were multiple shots were steven was back at his show proportions. at one point, garnet was the same height as spinel!
Probably because Spinel wanted Steven to suffer a slow and agonizing pain as all he loves is killed.
This however is just bullshit, there is no way he could climb that without powers.
And all Steven had to do was spit all over the place to fix it, despite it being so powerfull it should kill organic life faster than he can cure it.
Steven couldn't bubble Spinel. Why didn't he get Peridot to do it?
>Or he could have gone to Peridot, Lapis, Bismuth, or literally the ENTIRE TOWN FULL OF GEMS
He literally did just that
It just reset to the latest "save state".
Gems should unionize!!
Why doesn't Bismuth, the largest gem,simply not eat Spinel?
Magic~
All they had to do is include a single line about how the gems here aren't fighters and just want to live peaceful lives.
One line.
Why didn't he asked for help from others except thee main crystal gems at all?
>after said fusion he almost immediately dies
Why did the movie have the villain win, and then completely ignore that she won?
I was wondering why he was acting like such a fucking baby and whining more than usual.
That makes perfect sense.
Because nobody won. Earth was cured, Spinel has a new family, Steven learned that nothing is forever and that story book endings are just a dream. If anyone won, it was Pink in the end because she is inadvertently getting the last laugh every single time
Everyone has written one page, forgot to proofread for plotholes.
>Because nobody won. Earth was cured,
Bud, that's my point. Spinel succeeded in her plan. She poisoned Earth. The movie told us this was bad. Everyone dies bad. And then... they don't. Everyone lives and Steven kisses it better.
So what was the point?
I was thinking multiple injectors are needed to totally kill a planet and Spinel was being dramatic, then Peridot shows up and blows it way out of proportion because movie
I think her and Lapis were LARPing a fanfic
So why didn't Pink take Spinel with her in the first place?
Pink thought she was annoying, and also has trouble with empathy so didn't really think of spinel as a person
She was annoying to her.
Pink was a bad person.
Why didn't you take your toys to college, Andy?
It's obvious that if Steven went to the diamonds for help they would insist that Steven NEEDS them around and cause even more problems. It could even be a little of PD's subconscious influence that makes Steven not want the diamonds know that he could use their help.
She wanted to prove to the other Diamonds that she was mature enough to lead her own colony.
Spinel wasn't going to help with that and was just going to embarrass her.
Everything’s magyeeeck
More like why didn't you take your friend/servant who would do anything you said with you?
Oh, you wanted to show how you're grown up and won't just abandon this new thing once you're bored of it?
Thanks