Miraculous Ladybug

They aren't gonna have a game changing scenario like that ever, user

Where watch Reflekdoll

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Get a unga of this bunga!

Thank you my good fren

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on youtube

Why is he so much hotter as "Ladybug" than the actual Ladybug? Is this show trying to turn every boy who watches it gay?

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I think you might be a faggot.

Everyone is a faggot for Chat Noir/Adrien/Mister Bug.

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ladybug? more like ladybutt

chat noir? more like ass noir

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RULE 63 NO FUCKING EXCEPTIONS

But it's not just the ass. As Mister Bug he actually has some muscle definition instead of just being really skinny. The boy apparently lifts in between all the cardio he does.

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>that arched back
>his visible abs

thats why

I prefer Mister Bug and Lady Noir

And Lady Noir costume accentuates every curve of Marinette especially her delivious stomach

seriously, they're better off in each other's roles

Does Mister Bug have bigger loads than pussy noir?

Best part of Lady Noir is her stomach

Seems she is growing up in many ways.

Haven't watched this yet.
Do their personalities change as well or that theory is already debunked?

annihilated. It doesn't change personality, Marinette is simply more confident because of the anonymity and super powers. Adrien acts out because he has the opportunity to

It got debunked when Alya, Chloe, and Nino didn't change at all.

big coincidence that both Plagg and Adrien like nicknaming people, if the theory's false.
then again, fate is implied to have a hand in who gets the Miraculouses.

Marinette was born to be the party's rogue. Not as combative as Adrien or Kagami, but sneaky, sticky-fingered and smart.
The cat costume suits her.

>like Emilie wouldn't be into it
Nathalie was in her job -before- Emilie died, and her feelings for Gabriel aren't exactly subtle. Unless Emilie was the most trusting, open-minded person in the world (unlikely, given that she was complicit in 'protecting' Adrien), she was probably getting something out of the whole 'attractive, emotionally desperate woman works directly with Gabriel' situation.

Emilie was a vixen and Nathalie is a cuckqean. She is frustrated now because she can't get off when Emilie is unconscious.

How can that be when Nathalie does only Gabriel's bidding?

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What I want to know is who the hell are supposed to be the dwarves, then?

the entire classroom

Kwamis. Tiny jolly beings of nature.

>somnophilia
I didn't know Marinette could get more creepy, but here we are

Kagami in Miraculous form... has more in common with Manbug than Ladybug. Kagami is essentially male in appearance and personality

>somnophilia
Never heard of that before. Looking up:
>Sexology scholar John Money stated that the condition has a high degree of correlation throughout history with incest and may progress to necrophilia.[4] The Dictionary of Psychology categorized somnophilia within the classification of predatory paraphilias.[5]
That is creeptastic. It can't get any worse, can it?
>The term somnophilia was coined by John Money in 1986.[1][2] He characterized the condition as a type of sexual fetishism,[1] described as a type of syndrome: "of the marauding-predatory type in which erotic arousal and facilitation or attainment of orgasm are responsive to and dependent on intruding upon" someone who is unable to respond.
It can. I guess we shall see a lot more leather, latex and more in the future.

mon nègre, he was making reference to how snow white was comatose when rescued by prince charming

AH BEN SI ON VA DANS CE TERRITOIRE, UTILISE NEGRO, WSH.

Looking closer (argh! why did I do that?) I see the article also refers to Agalmatophilia:
>Agalmatophilia (from the Greek agalma 'statue', and -philia φιλία = love) is a paraphilia involving sexual attraction to a statue, doll, mannequin or other similar figurative object. The attraction may include a desire for actual sexual contact with the object, a fantasy of having sexual (or non-sexual) encounters with an animate or inanimate instance of the preferred object, the act of watching encounters between such objects, or sexual pleasure gained from thoughts of being transformed or transforming another into the preferred object.
Sounds familiar?

How did they know each other's catch phrases to power up?

No webm of the transformation scenes yet?

no but once again Adrien's is better than hers

Master Fu told them.

But the dwarves are basically who kills the witch by the end...oh.

She just fell from the cliff starting this obnoxious trope in Disney.

Who knows.

Adrien has always been 10x more fuckable than Marianette, the costume doesn't matter.

Also, honestly, I don't think anybody was planning for boys to watch this show.

Juleka was to blame for this situation. Alya and Marinette brought everything on the plate to her but she just sperged. She was asked multiple times if she is ok but instead of talking about her issues she preferred to wallow in self-pity and be HM's bitch. It's Juleka who should've apologized at the end.

It seems that the negative effect of using the damaged peacock miraculous is to have your life force drained until becoming comatose like Emilie. I think it would have been more compelling if the side effects were more body or paychological horror such as driving Nathalie insane, losing her personality to Mayura or causing her to get stuck physically between Mayura and human forms or mutate into a hideous monstrosity, like the vagina of a post op MTF transsexual

How do these two twerps not figure anything out??
Adrien removes Plagg then suddenly LB has Plagg; Marinette removes Tikki then suddenly CN has Tikki. They both admit there was a mix up.
If Tikki brought Marinette's earing's to him, then that meant Tikki--aka LB-- was in his vicinity since removing his miraculous ; if Plagg brought Adrien's ring to Marinette that meant Plagg-- aka CN-- was in her vicinity since removing her miraculous. They never stopped to think that the other holder just maybe might be someone they each know.
They can't even figure out that if they're own miraculous went to the other holder then that means both Tikki and Plagg must know who both LB and CN human identities are.
Its obviously plot device that they're ignorant to inquisitive questioning, but sometimes just glossing over the details for sake of plot in a children's cartoon is annoying at times.

Agreed. She would make a way more compelling villain if the peacock made her insane and more vicious

even more so if she would end up developing an obsessive boner-hate with Chat Noir while her admiration and maternal love for Adrien Agreste just grows.

The park was a public place,there were lots of other people. Kung Food would be way more questionable since they were locked down in the hotel with a limited number of people

But... she doesn't have any maternal love for Adrien.

Though it would lead to more Adrien suffering, so I'd be on board with it honestly. He's at his best when he's miserable.

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Feel bad for Luka and Max getting gypped in their debuts

>spends three seasons wanting to fuck the bug
>now I want the bug to fuck me

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Post Lady Noir dang it

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At this point Im sure the character designer likes Adrian way more.

My word

Getting ... perkier?

I cant decide which one is better and its driving me crazy

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Lady Noir and Mister Bug are oh so much sexier

Lady Noir's costume is just so bland and flat compared to Adrian's costume. They really needed to push the contrast with the green more.

Its a shame they sticked with green and didnt use a blue pattern according to her eyes, and the braid tail just looks weird. Also, the missing bell made the costume lacking. They really dropped the ball hard with Lady noir in my opinion.

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Mister Bug > Ladybug
Cat Noir > Lady Noir

Why does she have way more green in her swapped suit than CN normally has?? The only thing he has that's green are his eyes.
Same with Mr Bug. There's way more black in his swapped suit than what LB normally has. Though, I guess it was done that way to have its appearance have more of a masculine design.

He looks so incomplete without a hair accesory.

For a fashion designer, Marinette sure does think of boring costumes.

Other than out of universe reasons like trying to be consistent, I imagine it's more because that's what she thinks Cat Noir should look like

They don't choose their costume

According to Plagg they do,even if in a subcounscious level.

>what she thinks Cat Noir should look like
So, like a walking and breathing Adidas commercial?

Colour balance. Marinette has dark hair, so her costumes have less black on them, the opposite with Adrien. Lady Noire would look like a monotonous black fleck on the screen without extra highlights.

>Its a "cute goth girl finally shows her face" trope episode
nice

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He's in this for Marinette pussy, he doesn't give a damn about being a hero.

>They never stopped to think that the other holder just maybe might be someone they each know.

Cat Noir actually supposed that in Lady WiFi, but Ladybug got defensive about the statement.

>They can't even figure out that if they're own miraculous went to the other holder then that means both Tikki and Plagg must know who both LB and CN human identities are.
Tikki and Plagg knows who each other owners are since Dark Owl. Marinette and Adrien knows their kwamis saw them as civils, they apparently didn't ask for respect.

Was she always that gigantic? She seemed extra huge that episode.

And Marinette is supposedly the fashionist.

She's a big girl

I honestly think LB and CN just don't care about each other's secret identities in the first place. They consider the other one their own person.

Will Marionette get cucked by every single character of this show?

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She is tall, but being compared with the three shortest girls in class really doesnt help.

This is turning into Star Vs

Maybe they don't use their miraculous so often like Marinette and Adrien.

Chloe might have, as part of the redemption.

For you

Is Nathalie becoming ill?

i figured what would happen is that Nathalie's body gets so weak that it gets to the point where she literally can't deactivate the Peacock or she'll die, and being unable to turn her power off ends up having a bad effect on her sanity.

Juleka is best girl. Period.
Prettiest girl in the school, sexiest voice, tall as fuck, best personality, best make up, best hair, and best clothing style.

How can any of the other girls compete? Answer: they can't!

You know that Kagami is the best girl right?

Better design.

I wonder if Gabriel will chew Adrien out for agreeing on modeling for this unauthorized photoshoot with a rival brand

How can Kagami be best girl when she's worst girl. That's an undisputed fact.

>That smug Marinette

Jesus this kid must look like a greek god when naked. No wonder Marinette cant get 3 feet from him without the need to change panties.

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>undisputed fact
Maybe on the tumblr page you came from but not here. Kagami is great.

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Watching the episode tonight.

For reference, when do the episodes air? On Tuesdays?

Nobody ever suspects the butterfly muahahaha

We don't have a scheadule.
We just wait for an episode to air.

To keep enjoying being a hero as a chance to get out of his prison house, regardless of how good or bad he is at it.

Marinette was a better Black Cat because Marinette still prioritizes efficiency over enjoying things because after they win it's back to the gilded cage.

They'll never truely understand each others roles until they actually get into each others proper heads as Marinette assumes whoever he is under the mask he must have a fun active social life he's missing out on just as she is.

Consequence of english version alterations. In French all transformation phrases are just "Transform me" so they'd know right away how to work it.

I can't imagine having such bad taste.

She's the tallest girl but she just look extra huge in that shot because Alix Mylene and Rose are very short. She's only slightly taller than Marinette and Alya.

It airs like 5 times a day over seas so whenever a new episode is tossed onto rotation is when it comes out.

There's no set schedule.

"Transform me!" in eloquent French > Whatever corny-ass catchphrase they force in English

Wow. Someone has their... claws out.

I think his observations are... spot on.

seeth harder. Kagami is the cutest girl in this show. Marifag cuckqueens can't even compete

Adrien needs to protect this smile

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Nah. English versions are a lot more fun. Corny catchphrases for a corny show. The French version is just boring.

Nah, he seems to like Marinette and even had Adrien model her hat at his fashion show. He's probably looking to hire her for his brand later down the line.

Chat Noir definitely cares, and almost peeked in on Marinette de-transforming in Lady WiFi before deciding that he wanted Ladybug to tell him herself rather than find out against her will. I don't think Ladybug gives two shits about Chat's real identity though.

Did that episode where Kagami's mom got akumatized aired yet?

Are you trying to imply that Chat doesn't give off the vibes of a walking and breathing Adidas commercial?

Adrien>Marinette
That boy really is miraculous, simply the best.

Yeah a while back

Not officially. It's only been aired at a convention.

Ah well then my bad

>Marianette
>glided cage

???

She's the one actually enjoying her civilian life, dude.

kagami is uggo and a cunt.

it is a rubbish sentence to parse, but they meant that Adrian enjoys things because after they win it is back to the gilded cage.

This episode will change your opinion

I can not imagine what it must be to go through life as such a colossal idiot as you.

=3

Imagine ever being this unbelievably wrong

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Ah. Gotcha.

Based.

cringe

Why is Adrian's Chat costume AND Bug costume so much more better designed than both of Marinette's? Her Bug costume is incredibly basic and her hair doesn't change and her Chat gets a few points for the braid but is hella boring compared to Adrian's.

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Adrien's one and only role in the show os being eye candy for thirsty 12 y/o girls.

It is a job he does well. Too well, considering how many of us would fuck him.

>final battle
>Chat Noir is reluctantly serving his dad's side
>Ladybug tells the other bearers that she's equal to CN, so she'll hold him off
>Fox/bee/turtle/etc run to confront Hawkmoth

He was enthusiastic when Plagg met him, before he even knew there was a Ladybug.

>Chat Noir is reluctantly serving his dad's side
That's a laugh. If anything, he'd be encouraged harder than ever to stop his dad the moment he found out.

fellow Slytherins
There are several fics where, after Marinette and Adrien start dating, she helps him liason with his father. Honestly, those fics always seemed plausible to me.

Kagami... has the appearance and personality of a boy

This makes me wonder, I thought Marinette had short hair, but it's long enough for a bun and here it is in a very long braid. How long is her hair?

Adrien is a comic/manga nerd, Marinette isn't.

Miraculous magic made it longer.

The bun/pigtails would suggest she has maybe shoulder length hair, but the braid was magic.

Not -true- love, enough to do right by him, no. But she has some degree of compassion for him. Consider:
>Gabriel is an egomaniacal bitch who can't stand any sort of insubordination
>he is also obsessed with keeping things exactly the same as they were when his wife was alive, such as the 'caging Adrien' plan they agreed on together
>and he has no romantic feelings for Nathalie
She knows all of the above, but she tried to convince him to let Adrien attend school anyway.

So?

And she sees superheroing as purely functional.

This. He's female fanservice. He has to look good. For Marinette, it's more optional.

Chinese cartoons have turned your brain to mush user. Your average boy doesn't actually look the girly unless he's trying to look like a trap.

Remember that Marinette was never willing surpass her fears for Adrien, but she did for Chat in the origins episode.

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I hope the reveal goes south.
>Marinette realizes her crush Adrien has been annoying Chat this whole time
>Adrien realizes that his crush Ladybug is his awkward friend Marinette

I am hankering for a fighting game

...

Yeah but the other commenter was saying maternal love.

Nathalie has a minimum of human compassion for Adrien, true, but barely enough to pass as a decent human being. I'd hardly call it love.

I think it definitely will. Not because the couple won't work out eventually, but because they're angsty teenagers who have a lot of problems on their plates already.
Besides, LB would already be upset by the masks dropping at all. Situation doesn't matter. It's something she can't deal with, and something that endangers them, even if she wants it.

>separate winquotes for LB and Marinette
>LB's fighting style is poised and smug, Marinette's involves tripping everywhere and causing chaos
YES

so...Plagg has a fetish for long hair?

Fair enough.

How much longer until Desperata?

Ladybug:
>"I'll protect Paris from Hawkmoth...no matter how many akumas he sends!"
>"Bye bye, little butterfly."
>[against Chat] "It's okay, kitty. I know this isn't your fault."
>[against Rena Rouge/Carapace/Queen Bee] "You're making good progress."
>"Just doing my job."

Marinette:
>"I won't back down!"
>"Ugh...gotta find Tikki…"
>"Good, now...Everyone can see...who you really are..."
>[against Adrien] "Stop lying! I knew it. You're just like Chloe!"
>[against Lady Wifi] Alya…? Hang on, I'll get Ladybug!"

Tomorrow, I think.

I like how Tikki's little hands are clasped.

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Miraculous Fighter game alternate costumes for Ladybug

>Marinette
>PJ Marinette
>Towel and Sunglasses Marinette
>Akumatized Ladybug
>Mister Bug
>Water form/Ice form

Oh. Oh, God. I just realized where Nathalie's character arc is going.
>Nathalie Sancoeur (literally "heartless")
>an expy of the fairytale huntsman
>the huntsman loyally served the evil queen, and she ordered him to kill Snow White
>he found Snow, but at the last minute couldn't bear to kill her
>so he deceived the queen
>brought back a deer's heart as proof that he'd succeeded, instead of the girl's heart she'd demanded
>as far as his orders were concerned, the huntsman was without a heart/heartless
>Sancoeur
Her surname is foreshadowing, but not of her villainy, like we thought. It's foreshadowing that she's going to switch sides.

I pray for the sake of our consciences that she will be aged up.
Or sufficiently cartoonish that she won't look like a real 14-year-old girl. Either way.

Have the historical incarnations of LB and CN as secret unlockables.

Natalie definitely cares for Adrien.

Maybe not maternally or as much as Gabriel, but still she's the one championing his attempts to socalize more via school and his friends. And she was the one pressing Gabriel to spent Christmas with him because it was his first one with Emilie and he was sad.

Considering that Gabriel is both her employer and tends to fly into rages when people question him, I think Nathalie is doing pretty well.
Although it is true that, were she anywhere near as decent as a -normal- human being, she would call child services.

Rich people are above the law. CPS wouldn't do shit.

Nathalie /ss/ Adrien doujin where?

Chat Noir:
>"Well, that was fun."
>"Heh. Next time, think before challenging heroes like us!"
>"No problem."
>[against Ladybug] "Snap out of it! Please!"
>[against Chat Blanc] "White isn't my colour."
>[against Queen Bee] "Nice move, Chloe. I almost felt that one."
>[against Hawkmoth] "Why..do you look so familiar?"
>[against Adrien] "You're not me! I'll prove it!"
>[against Mayura] "Where have I seen that brooch before?"

Adrien:
>"Sorry about that."
>"Huh. Guess those karate lessons are paying off."
>"Please don't tell Father about this."
>[against Chloe] "I didn't mean to hurt you. I just...needed some space."
>[against Marinette] "This is a misunderstanding..."
>[against Lila] "Out of my way!"
>[against Chat Noir] "Ladybug would never take a poser like you seriously!"
>[against Nathalie] "Sorry! I'll be back soon!"

Well, there are already Hawkmoth/Ladybug fics…

Then explain how the front page news is nearly always "businessman/politician/celebrity caught in criminal scandal".

Scandal != punishment.

Rich people are effectively above the law unless they fuck over other rich people or are about to fuck over other rich people, in which case they get jailed forever or suicided twice in the back of the head, whichever is needed.

And how often are they convicted of anything?

Meh, seems like a bit of a stretch. At most she'll try and talk Gabriel out of it. Either that or watching the toll that using the peacock miraculous is having on her body will cause him to have a change of heart.

youtube.com/watch?v=fVi3A_DMWic

Seems they're recording the finale right now in english

instagram.com/stories/selahvictor/

just press right for the relevant videos

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>Well, there are already Hawkmoth/Ladybug fics…
Where? I've never found any.

I recall one where Gabriel as Collector seduces Ladybug, but I forget where I saw it.

Yes.

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Amazing taste
Kagami is garbage.

>Kagami is garbage.
Thats not marinette

Juleka and Rose are best couple, they need each other.

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At least Marinette doesn’t look like a mongoloid

>the Japanese girl looks more Mongolian than the Chinese girl
What are you smoking?

>this post
You must be an actual mongoloid

>Mongoloid
>1. relating to the broad division of humankind including the indigenous peoples of East Asia, Southeast Asia, and the Arctic region of North America.
>2. having Down syndrome.

So even with his hair looking even more like normal she couldn't figure it out could she?
Why are these children such dumbasses

We've had this discussion multiple times. Plagg is right, everyone is blind. It's not that hard to believe.

Marinette is gorgeous as is. Alya is pure sex tho

Which girl would you go for, user?

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Dubs for Juleka and Rose

Oh.

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rolling

Ayla looks so much better as a different race.

You mean it got debunked when Alya, Nino, Kagami, Kim and presumably Luka and Max didn't change. Chloe at least has some development.

Rollin'.

all these dubs

How come the mayor is so blatantly corrupt and treats Paris like his own fiefdom but gets away with it

It's only dubs of it's at the end, also
Alix please, her and the teacher if dubs.

Please Chloe or a pure french girl.

Rolling

And I got Lila.

Every single one

Sweet designs, did the artist make more Miraculous stuff?
The whole Bourgeois family is a collection of antagonist archetypes overblown for comedic effect. You'd have to be the show's target audience to not get that.

Any umm... good butt shots? I need it for..for um science.

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COME ON TRIPS

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>even TIKKI was glad Chloe was moving away

All of my lulz.

Who wasn't except Adrian?

Roll

>beest girl
Nice

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>Best girls are 6 & 9
>69
Coincidence? I think NOT!

And they STILL can't recognize each other.
What.

Sabrina

yep

lets see

But she should have. Unfortunately for her she is too gay. Sabrina is alone and even Ladybug doesn't care about her. Adrien doesn't hate Chloe because she is only one in the class who she doesn't threat like a shit.

You'd be better off getting your own screencap from this scene.

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Magic.

roll

What the fuck do you mean, "this season?" THIS season? Just this one?

Alya did nothing wrong.

It's a natural progression of her characterization. It fleshes her out beyond "protagonist's BFF".
Alya was a good person in the first season, and she still is. But her thrill-chasing has to be addressed. This is the girl who gets herself hurt, repeatedly, because she doesn't take akuma seriously. This is the girl who ignores the one wish of the people who saved her life.
All those things boil down to the lesson that I'm sure Lila is going to teach Alya: she has to THINK about situations before jumping in and making assumptions.
It's no coincidence that the reason Marinette couldn't pawn off the LB Miraculous on Alya was because she was busy recklessly going after danger.

I mean, I get her being frustrated with Marinette and assuming that her anger at Lila comes from jealousy... but Alya should have -told- her about those things before getting so judgmental. If Marinette doesn't listen, do what you have to do. But Alya has done nothing but support her stalking, and yet she pulls out the 'distrust' card with no warning, when she wants to justify herself on a completely different matter. That's not what a friend does.
(That's why I found the Instagram post so funny. Alya is mostly hurting herself.)

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> Alya has done nothing but support her stalking
Where?

Who modelled Alya's butt and breasts for the wax model of Lady Wifi?

...

You can't go wrong with Marinette

the entirety of the series stands in opposition to that claim, but go off

It's not. Chloe was better without miraculous. It only made her more arrogant and needy.

It's just that ginger hair+brown skin feels wierd, desu.

INITIATIVE!

I wish to have a body like Marinette's. I would wear that outift and mince about with cock tucked like some fucking faggot

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Juleka said Rose is just like a sister to her.

Her body slips and falls constantly, user.
(Then again, some cultures find that level of frailty hot.)

well yeah, if I got cucked by an Arabian prince I'd say the same thing.

:(

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The characters have official birthdays/astrological signs?

Luka is a better boy then Adrien

He loves his sister so much.

No, but I think I heard somewhere that Luka gets the Snake Miraculous and Juleka the Tiger.

We barely know him yet, give it time.

You see Luka with the viper miraculous. He jobs tho

>He jobs tho

Seems to be a basic requirement for being a Possible Marianette Love Interest™.

Rolling

This. Man this one felt a little frustrating. Every her best friend tried to stay behind and try to understand whats wrong and she pushed her away. Her motivation should be less mad at her friends and more at herself for blasting spaghetti everywhere

yeah, scissor sister

Hour and a half till desperata.

stream anywhere?

Trailer?

>Hawk Moth going full madman and a complete lunatic while Nathalie is cool and collected by his side.

I seriously hope they continue to duo like that even if Nathalie dies from magic cancer; their masked interactions are way too funny

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>wet cardboard is a better breakfast than bacon and eggs
If you insist user

That scene was sweet. It's nice to see Luka doing something that doesn't involve wetting Marinette's panties.

>bacon and eggs

Adrien is more like soggy, cold cereal, let's be real.

That's still better than cardboad though.

She was mad at herself (looking at the mirror and going "I ruined everything... like always"). Hawk Moth made her direct her anger at her friends because he's manipulative.
On the other hand, it feels like half the times the girls gather, it is for some scheme to get Marinette into Adrien's pants, or it gets turned into one anyway. I'd be fucking angry too.

>the way she's side eyeing him
It's the fuckin Nile delta down in her blue panties right now

I mean, they should know by now that she's turboautistic so they should be a little more patient with her and ease her into situations

Alya pushing around everyone all over the place to try and hook up Marinette has a bigger blame honestly.

Masked supervillain roleplay is probably her fetish.

Meh, if I had to put up with Marinette's self pity and spergery as much as Alya's had too, I'd be pushy about getting her to confess already too

Not this time. This episode wasn't nearly as hyped though

Is there a place with English subtitles somewhere?

Why does every girl that isn't Marinette have so awkwardly big eyes?

I agree. However, like said, the moment Adrien showed up Juleka should've known it was going to be about that instead of giving her a chance and being patient with her.

Marinette and Alya are all about dick over her friends

Marinette's eyes in Chat Noir's costume were pure nightmare fuel because of how big and empty they were

>Luka's mom and jagged stone used to bang

Nice to see the akuma happen offscreen again

Just like her soul

Are you watching it already?

Very shitty stream

Funny, ladybug is close to how faggots are called in spanish

Would you go full 'ladybug' for him Spanish user?

So, now that we saw that Nathalie's miraculous is weakening her or downright killing her, will that eventually become a turning point for Hawk Moth, either leaving his villainous quest behind for her sake or sacrificing her for his endgame? Or will that accomplish to nothing but superficial drama?

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>Todo un mariquita
That was the first thing I thought when I saw him transformed

>25 thousand times
JUST

It might serve to strengthen his resolve since now if he fails to get the Ladybug and Black Cat miraculous, not only will he lose his wife, but Natalie as well

Im going to bet on superficial drama so as to not get dissapointed.

Yeeesh. Adrien's going to need some serious therapy after that.

Though she does get super defensive whenever it's ever suggested that Adrian might be CN...

I hope it becomes the thread that leads to Adrien learning the truth. Like Natalie is gonna suddenly double over and one of them is going to make a misstep

From what we saw from her in Captain Hardrock, she really does seem like the type of fan who would have gone to a concert, taken a bunch of ecstacy, and banged the whole band.

She's probably legit repulsed by the idea of having feelings for CN (by proxy of him being Adrien).

I think it's more that if Adrien is Chat Noir, then she'll have to give up going after him since their feelings for each other would get in the way of their superhero work. She very clearly wasn't repulsed by him in Glaciator if that blush when he kissed her is anything to go by.

>No Nathalie nor the purple-haired teacher on sight
>Instead we have no-name fat girl and the butch skater girl

Rollin', but not happy about it

It's probably because of the fact that he pays attention to her and she can see it as a superficial/sexual thing only, but she doesn't want feelings entangled there in any way

>their feelings for each other would get in the way of their superhero work
Unless their identities are revealed to the public it should not be a problem, but considering how neurotic LB is, it's probably the case

>no name fat girl
Mylene. She's been the focus of at least 3 episodes. Her dad is the Mime Akuma

>Complains against no-name fat girl, get no-name fat girl
Life is indeed suffering...

Gabriel has pretty much accepted that Nathalie will willingly die for him, so he's not stopping for her.

The real issue is what the Peacock will do to her, both physically and mentally.

here's hoping for a 9 or 7

Seeing something happen to Rena Rouge made Carapace vulnerable to akumatization. I think that's why she wants them to maintain a more professional relationship

>Lila scheming yet again

still hot, just don't care for her

Watching Desperada. Luka and Ladybug were hard trolled. I assume that was Adrien's little revenge for Reflekdoll. He becomes Aspik.

fuck that lying schemer re rolling for someone better

I can't believe he spent actual months reusing second chance over and over again trying to save ladybug. I know he loves her, but holy shit, talk about determined.

Wtf Marinette is reaching new levels of bitchyness in this episode.

What? It's just a meme now.

>being so much into adrien's dick she couldnt see luka was obviously the best choice for Jagged
>confirming she only talks about how Chat is important when he is around,but the minute he is not there she is all "fuck him"

I mean she was always bitchy but it never got this bad

Sure determinated, but definetly not the sharper tool and got worse by Ladybug actually knowing who he is. But it was still good.

Surprisingly, I can't tell this was a full Adrien episode or a stealth one. It's rare have an episode focusing on him learn the aesop.

Also, Nino is always missing in almost all these group reunions. Alya must to be so demanding that he just need be by his own, sometimes.

She's just brunette Chloe, she just can't admit.

This gotta make a traumatic experience for anyone,seeing someone you love die thousands of times without being able to do anything.
Adrien suffering feels so good

Desperada MEGA when?

We know Chat’s going to be akumatized in the future? But what about Marinette? When will she get her chance to evil and sexy?

Why is my waifu Alyx hiding behind a cupcake?

Never, which is likely why they make a Sentimonster clone of her instead.

It's end of game if she is akumatized.

She will get a sentimonster by the end of the season,right? As for akumatization it will probably be on the next season and a fair chance that it will come from HawkLila

It sounds too gay, not gonna happen.

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Why is Astruc trying so hard to make Adrien look like a loser in those last episodes? I mean he was always kind of a shitty hero but this season he is a complete mess.

Don't forget that she laughed at Adrien's joke and complemented his sense of humor , but later scolded Chat for the exact same joke.

I think this was one of the best episodes of the season. Some sorely needed character development for Adrien, some more Ladrien interactions, and it's always nice to see Ladybug recognize Chat's worth. The beginning of the episode was top cringe and it was hilarious.

>Lila as Hawk Moth from Season 4 onward.
If only...

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I want her to become physically mutilated

This isn't really a new thing; as early as Copycat back in season 1 we've seen Adrien/Chat Noir cause trouble because of his love for Ladybug.

It shouldn't be. There should be other ways to defeat the butterfly miraculous or other miraculous. The ladybug one can't be plan A, B and C

Yes, this site. Change the language. Also, it's made in English,

It's actually refreshing see him as falible out of the hero suit. It helps to make him credible, instead always be this Gary Stu that Marinette dreams.

Also, if they want everyone believe Adrien is Marinette's soulmate, they have at least to make it work on both sides.

That's why guardian role is so important.

People don't fucking know what they want. They are bitching about characters making mistakes then about characters being too perfect.

More than love, he is just plain bad at heroing. Just like Marinette is terrible at being a regular person.

Both sentences are wrong.

How so?

I mean, if you're willing to use Cataclysm to kill people, well...

CN does his job perfectly to always ensure victory. Marinette is pretty popular, has her passion and plan for life.

Marinette is class president, friends with almost all of her classmates, won a gaming competition, and has had her talents as a fashion designer acknowledged by a famous Rockstar and the two most notable figures in the fashion world.

Adrien doesn't take his role as a hero too seriously due to personal reasons, but he's more than proven his worth when the chips were down. All the other heroes in Mayura jobed hard, but he was able to keep up with Ladybug no problem.

>le "each one has a roll" meme
Have you seen Reflekdoll? Its already proven that episode that Chat role is fucking easy and Marinette was even better at it and did his job (and hers) without screwing up as much as he always does. Adrien is a terrible hero.

>"Hey, I'm also Chat Noir, and I love you Ladybug! Second Chance!"
That was probably cathartic for him at least.

No he isn't a terrible hero if anything that's marinette its been show in countless episodes without adrien she would have failed/died

I feel bad for Alya
She has to put up with Marinette's autism every fucking day
Imagine if you had to deal with a dude going >tfw no gf every time Stacy passed by
I mean I'd deal with it if I liked the guy but I'd tell him to blow it out his ass at some point.

His strength is making right decisions very fast without planning. It's not smart to base your opinion on one episode.

>25,913 dead Ladybugs are now scattered across the time streams
Great.

why can't marinette just ask alya or somebody else to tell adrien that she likes him? It's not like adrien is the type of person to take that as a bad sign
fucking cretin

fucking cringe

That's weird.

>All that extra trauma on Adrien's plate
kek

This is an incel board.

Does Kagami even go to their school?

If I recall, she only visits for the fencing club.

>CN does his job perfectly to always ensure victory.

His "job" is to take hits while the actual important person does their magic. He's easily replaceable by any other Miracolous user, hell Nino would be a better teammate than Chat Noir.

Also this .

Adrien is patently useless as a hero.

>because after they win it's back to the gilded cage
This. How they act when Miraculoused and when they aren't are vastly different because the circumstances they exist in apart from heroism are like night and day. For Marinette, normalcy is calming; for Adrien, normalcy is prison.

Nino doesn't love Ladybug as Adrien, he may hesitate and it's over.

You cannot not love that ass and still be human. I swear.

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WORLD IS A FUCK
25913 DEAD LADYBUGS

Not really. If he wins and gets his ultimate power rewrite he can heal both of them.

She clearly enjoys it. Hell she might secretly enjoy seeing her turn into a mess every now and then. Otherwise she would have gone to Adrien and tell him what's up a long time ago; she's not shy about going her way and anyone can see that would really be the best for Marinette

Nino just has to put the damn shield up and shut up. Chat actually has reason to hesistate, because he's taking the hits head on, but he doesn't because he loves Ladybug.

>Secret harem ending

>I don't think Ladybug gives two shits about Chat's real identity though.

She actively doesn't want to know, to the point where she stops him whenever he even vaguely hints about something in his real life because she insists they know nothing about each other so they can't put any dots together.

She insists it's about secrecy and not wanting Hawkmoth to find out, but Gamer 2.0 suggests it's more that she just doesn't want Ladybug to be anything more than a sidejob and she's cheerfully oblivious to the fact that Chat Noir doesn't have an amazing social life he resents missing out on because she won't let him talk about himself.

>ywn know what kind of weird and fucked up shit happened in Chat Noir's Endless Eight

Miraculous Ladybug power resets all that

>Gets a note written by Ladybug
>Takes note of how the handwriting matches Marinette's
>Thinks it's total coincidence

>Adrien said he was was looping for months
>25,913 loops
>none of them can be more than five minutes, but for the sake of it let's say five even
>25,913×5=129,565 Minutes
>129,565 minutes=2,159.4166 hours=89.9756944 days=2.9991898148 months
Huh, that checks out, barely.

So? Adrien isn't a handwriting expert, so beyond "they both have good penmanship," what can he figure out from it?

twitter.com/RedSuitedLady/status/1169669784088338432?s=20
Heh.

Weird to think that in all this time and infinite possobilities he never got to find out her identity or even that she loved him at least once.

That's pretty based.

Wait
Does Gabriel actually get taller from transforming?

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Looks like they're doing the smooth criminal planking thing

Fuck I see it now
But it still doesn't answer the question
At least I understand why he spends so much time as Hawkmoth now but damn dude

rollin'

Rolling for thots

Jack pot
Errything about her is a turn on for me

Rolling

Ugh... Marinette. I actually wanted Mylene.

>6’0” vs 5’11”

Adrien without hair is concerning

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Cirrhosis is just killing him

I think the episode with the big baby being Akumatized was the worst so far. (just in S2)

>Creation
>Destruction
>Protection
>Illusion
>Subjection
>Transformation
>Second Chance
Weird naming scheme.

It was cathartic for half the fandom as well. The other half it just riled up more

Would you play this game?

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Heroism is in Adrien's blood. Did you see the way he bodyslammed Luka to keep the kid from getting hit by Desperada. You can't find that kind of 'meat shield' instincts in just anyone

Agreed. Gabriel doing everyone the kindness of making his son a model almost makes up for terrorizing Paris on a biweekly basis

>shitty generic mecha game
No, I'd play the villain game though.

Marinette being socially awkward (and any such scene in any media) has always been like nails on a chalkboard for me but I'm glad that the villain, while not the main focus by a long shot, had sweet brass guns and a guitar axe, fictional weapons that I hold near to my heart. Adrien telling Ladybug that he's Chat would hurt in just the right way if it weren't for THAT STUPID FUCKING DOOT SOUND EFFECT

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You mean psoriasis? Cirrhosis is liver damage from alcoholism.

Not to mention in Gamer 2.0 he seppuku'd rather than have to fight Ladybug.

I think that user is commenting on his yellow eyes, which is usually a symptom of liver failure.

Google "cirrhosis eyes"

Good for him he isn't the brains of the team, then.

Will Kwami hunter be the Snake-Noir episode? Or, is that Miraculer?

Doesn't mean he's irrepleacable, or even any good, at what he does.

>"KWAMIS!"

Is there a range limit on Pegase or Bunix's portals?

Miraculer has been already aired. It will be probably Kwami Buster.

Doesn't seem like it unless the edge of the universe counts as a limit

The mirror become the bug wings/shell. Cute.

Come forth trips desu

Anyplace i can watch the episode?

Youtube has it.

He also changes his face structure, I think in his case is more that a costume.

Thought the reference was to hair loss.

If I took that bracelet.. would you akumatize?

Why tease us like that? AAAAAHHH!

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Didn't they reuse the animation for Animaestro?

I don't know what you're talking about.

The episode where Thomas Austruc self inserted and was the director of the animated Ladybug movie. Didn't they reuse the 2D trailer footage for that?

Haven't seen it yet.

Too busy being dead.

So I guess we won't be seeing Aspix again since she'd know that's Adrien.

That's not how I expected that to go down honestly.

Well we are still missing the episode where he fuses the Snake and Cat miraculous to become Fangs Noir.

We actually will

>Multimouse instead of Dragon Marinette
Why?

Were they implying Jagged is Luka and Juleka's father? Or that at least he fucked and dumped Anarka?

Why does oneitis run so strongly in the Agreste bloodline?

>Repetition

Nice fox

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There it is, I wish they called it that in the episode.

It's just like when he learned CN's identity. Every blatant sign the universe has given Hawkmoth that he should stop his bullcrap only makes him MORE determined to make it happen.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost#Concorde_effect

It's the price they have to pay for being wanted by just about every woman out there. The universe has to balance itself out somehow so that all the other guys can even have a chance

Rolling for Marinette

Somewhere out there is an AU where Marinette managed to get the LB Miraculous to Alya, and she and CN became the dumbest, most impulsive superhero team out there.
We were robbed of good laughs, is what I'm saying.

canon

How was that allowed in a kid's show?

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He has had 3 seasons worth of hints to figure it out and he hasn't, boy is just dumb.

A good comedy show with Alyabug and Chat >>>>> French sailor moon.

Where has she been all season? It doesn't look like she'll be showing up other than the finale, where it looks like she'll just be brainwash fodder again. Considering she was one of the most hyped of the additional heroes they've only used her once in Miraculer where she didn't do much.

Even Carapace has gotten more appearances than her this season.

Who did it better?
>youtube.com/watch?v=LTDDGsxgzf8
>youtube.com/watch?v=J1kWYfH_rMA

Considering she kept instantly getting zapped no reason opertunity for that.

Is this even a question. Aspix looks lame and his transformation is terribly generic, which is probably the point because he was the wrong choice for the snake.

Miraculouses do weird things to their wearers.

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Luka kept some of his Silencer gestures, so him for the callback.

Viperion has the undoubtedly better choreography and costume, but I can't get over how creepy Luka's model looks. Somebody please fix his face already.
Aspik's music is nice though.

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Whats was the monkey's attribute? Bullshit?

Confusion, I would think.

The spandex must be digging into his ass so damn much. Also imagine his balls. Ouch.

Yes.
Adrien gets more muscular too.

Messes up their powers

you misspelled Marinette there
now let us never speak of this episode again

Considering how energetic and talktative she is as Reflekta I look forward to the episode she become the Tiger hero.

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If anybody can make purple-tinged fur work it will be Juleka.

>Luka putting the mask on
that is homosexual activity

>since our eyes first met
lifebond confirmed

Could a Ladybug video game work? Like a sort of Spiderman game but with Ladybug and Chat Noir as playable secondary character in Paris?

I missed a lot of miraculous threads since I've been busy lately but what did you guys talk about when Timetagger came out? I've been curious as to how they still haven't retrieved the butterfly miraculous even as they go into adulthood.

Probably same issue Spider-Man games have. Gameplay would lean to hard towards hero or civilian, instead of a good mix.

Basically
>TEN YEARS?! TEN WHOLE YEARS?!
>Alix is best girl
>The Chris/Noel thing is already old.

Let's see...
1) Bunnyx's design
2) The MacGuffin of Alix's watch being a Miraculous
3) The tease that a new Hawk Moth eventually takes over, and it's heavily implied to be Lila.

Why is she soulless?

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virgin

I had a crazy theory that she is a Sentimonster of Emilie Agreste

I feel like it's supposed to be leading towards Chat/Adrien being akumatized

She's my #1

What terrifies me is that, for all the dumb yandere shit Mari has done this season, the Loveater blurb leak implies that her behaviour will get even worse.

It seems that Viperion is being set up as a kind of tactician rather than outright combat. Unfortunately, Luka the faggot's character is unlikely to be developed further

I get they changed Nino's brother's name to make the pun work, but I don't think it was worth it.

Well, it's not like ML is new to the "falling in love with someone who is technically, unbeknownst to you, someone you already love" thing.

Are they going to kiss?

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>Ultimate Mecha Strike III Championship Double Impact EX3 Plus (Arcade Edition) for PC
Meh. Everyone knows the Japan-exclusive Ultimate Mecha Strike Alpha EX PLUS Turbo All Stars 10th Anniversary Special Edition is the superior version.

>not shelling out the extra bucks for Sen Hermano Drillbit being made playable
Pleb.

This literally cannot happen. This would be the polar opposite of character development. Who would want their show to be made worse with time rather than better?

Loveeater implies she gives up on Adrien which honestly is a good move at this point.

Presumably her mistake lies with Chloe.

I think for a minute I'm just going to crawl into a happy deluded shell where only S2 happened and all the characters are still sympathetic.
brb

And it never said she made the pivotal mistake in her right mind. (Like how previous episode blurbs mentioned the reveal happening, but never the amnesia/brainwashing/AU circumstances that invalidated it.) An akuma may well have hit her.

Still. There's a line between 'realistically flawed' and 'I don't want to watch this character anymore'. The nonchronological order makes it worse.

That's supposedly Miraculous Queen. It's the season finale.

But Getting worse and more caugh up in their on flaws IS in its own way character development, right?
Marinette needs to get to a point where her bullshit is so ballantly obvious that she will get called out or will herself realize she needs to change for the better.
As it is right now marinette has her head too deep in her ass to see what is going on.

The strange is, Adrien was pretty much himself as Aspic. Does it mean the Chat persona is basically up to Plagg? Or did Adrien just play Chat as a role?

I'd love it if the show went this way, honestly.

But we had two full seasons of Marianette being shown to be always right, so I'm absolutely not expecting them to go this route.

Kiss

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Maybe the situation was so desperate he didn't feel like joking around.
When his dad was akumatized in the Collector episode, Chat got all somber and worried.

Same thing in Simon Says. When his dad was potentially in trouble he started taking things really seriously.
Wooing Ladybug as Chat didn't seem to be working, so he probably saw this as his opportunity to start over with her.

Can someone explain the snake’s power to me? Adrien says he rewinded time for months, but aren’t the chances meant to last 5 minutes only? He should have long turned back.

Basically, its power is to create a save-state in time and return to it as much as needed within the five minutes before the Miraculous shuts down.

He can turn back those 5 minutes as long as he wants, Ladybug literally says so.
So he's been turning 5 minuts for months.

This power is useful as fuck for both silly and terryfing ways

>you could eat an ice cream and repeat it until you got sick of it and not getting fat

>you could try murdering someone and repeat until you succeed, so 100% accuracy

See the math here The guy went back in time over 25,000 times. That's why he said he'd been at it for months.

tfw you realize its literally Bites the Dust miraculous

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I see. And I thought the rabbit’s portals were too OP for this show. How come the minor miraculouses have way better abilities than the main seven? How do you go from paralyzing a single person or getting a random item to this?

I'd say more GER.

Could be but I still didnt fully understood how that worked tho. Diavolo just kinda died and at the same.time didnt. Weird af.

The Ladybug and Cat miraculouses are not half of what they will be.
I feel it in all my weeaboo bones. A powerup is coming.

yeah, but you'd need an infinite supply of mice
or whatever it is Sass eats

I feel Chat Noir's cataclysm is able to destroy more than objects. It already did a whole dimmension. It wouldnt be a stretch to think it can also destroy memories, feelings, realities and so on.

This. I suspect if you really knew how to accest the Cat's power, you could do shit like unmake all of the Snake's time loops.

They never happened.

Marinette and Adrien are still inexperienced with their powers - Adrien showed that it's possible to choose what you get with Lucky Charm. An experienced Ladybug/Mr. Bug who can use their powers without detransforming could put that power to terrifying use.

OH no

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Lets not forget LB has another power that can reconstruct objects with a snap of fingers.
If you combine those two powers she can create/substitute whatever shit she wants (like making everyone genderbend by accident)

Is this new, or from Syren?

No, from S2.5 EP2 .

Thank god I dont want to see this hideous design ever again.

I'm sure eventually she will be able to telekinesis anything she's created.

>Mademoiselle Bustier doesn't have big titties
If it was an anime would she have gotten big titties?

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No
but she would be aged down to be a loli teacher

NOOOO I need big busty anime teachers

What's the summery of Loveater?

roll

Chloe's parents fight, they get fused into an emotion-eating dog, and Marinette flubs something up which leads into Miracle Queen.

twitter.com/miraculousintl/status/1142428363342004224?lang=en

roll

You know, the entire premise of Desparada seems to be that because Second Chance removes the consequences of failure, it's okay to suddenly remove the plot armor. Remember, Ladybug has done all sorts of Mary Sue bullshit (Puppeteer 1 anyone?) but suddenly can't beat a single akuma even though she has at least one ally with her. She also couldn't pull it off multiple times despite having two allies with her. And she keeps being defeated by really basic attacks no less.

Also, I know that he eventually had to admit defeat, but 25,913 times definitely counts for dedication. If Adrien got that determination from his father, then Hawkmoth has only begun to fight.

Another english recording pic of the finale.

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Why does Mayura go out and about, when she should hang back like Hawkmoth? I get that, from a writing standpoint, it's to make her different from Gabe, but it doesn't make much strategic sense.

>Desperata is now the number one Akuma, with only Time Tagger coming close
>both time travel episodes

To do Hawkmoth's bidding

His bidding doesn't make much sense.

She's the Goldar of the show.

I want to belive the reasoning is along the lines of "Those pest only expect to face a Akuma, go and take them out unprepared for a real threat!" or something like that.

Wonder if miracle queen is a double team like reflekdoll?

It's Chloé, I think, so it could be. Maybe the Bee Comb gets the Sentimonster?

How will Hawkmoth not figure out Adrien is Chat during Chat Blanc?

I wonder how many Parisians who were hit by Reflekta were absolutely fine eith becoming a teenage girl

Miracle Queen can brainwash and control all the other Miracles. Combined with Mayura and maybe a Sentimonster, it's going to be a whole army against Ladybug and Chat.

Natalie is more useful as an Akuma then as Mayuri

He's empathetic, not telepathic. He can't actually read minds.

>Juleka never wears her bracelet, except for when she is Akumatized
>Nino never uses bubbles after he was Akumatized
What's the deal? They couldn't have figured something out? Like making Nino music themed, and putting the Akuma in his headphones?

Yeah, but Chat will he Akumatized, he should just tell him that he, Adrien Agreste, already has the Miraculous.

Chat Blanc isn't Noir/Adrien. It's another fake out, like Copy Cat.

He still has his free will. Chat will likely tell Hawk Moth that he doesn't get the Black Cat until Chat captures the Ladybug.

But why would Gabriel akumatize and endanger his son?

>He still has his free will
Eh, kinda. The characters aren't themselves as Akumas, because most don't seem like the attempted murders they act like as villains. Adrien's free will could easily be less than average, depending on what caused him to get upset.

Only good knows what comboluted plan Astruc has in store for us.
My only theories are:
>Hawkmoth realizes that Ladybug has a thing for Adrian and, tho it pains him greatly, he uses his son to defeat LB.
>Lila gets the Butterfly miraculous and his first victim is Adrian.

They're enough of themselves to be able to refuse orders and in extreme cases even turn against him.

The first asshole to turn agaisnt Hawkmoth was a fucking robot.
What a world.

Evillustrator kinda did.

That was obvious from the start, the writers need to have Marinette be the highlight/heavy lifter in basically every scenario, so of course they wouldn't let Adrien have even a little bit of success.

It'd be moderately amusing if Hawkmoth figures out who Marinette is first

>You're a child
>Though I guess it shouldn't surprise me that he's sought out children for this fight.
>Ahhh well, I'm sure you family will miss you.

It's not like Marinette didn't fuck up, it's just that the Miraculous cure makes fuck ups irrelevant.

still, she's basically always the better fighter/planner.

That sounds like it's just Heroes Day again.

He already tried an Akuma army and that failed, so now he's going to try a Miracle army instead. Personally, I don't think he'll have much villain cred left after this fails.

He already had Alya Nino and Chloe in his Akuma army anyway and that didn't work.

Adding Max and Kim to the mix (I'm guessing Luka and Kagami will also manage plot armor so they can give their miraculous to power up Dragonbug and Snake Noir) isn't going to be much of an upgrade.

Presumably, he'll get control of ALL of them, even the ones we haven't seen yet.

Nobody else has focus episodes to get them this season and they haven't shown any more promo art. And even Bunnix can't be there because she's only a future character.

At the current time it can be assumed Hawkmoth doesn't think he can beat both in a fight before the other can call for backup, but prior to knowing they had allies why didn't he just try to beat them up?

I doubt it. Akuma probably needs to hit them anyway.

yeah, they're both crazy bitches.
but -they- don't know that.

one week until Ladybug episode

How many more episodes are left?