Dark Crystal thread

So does rian

She's really close, especially now
Rian's big purpose was getting the word out about the Skeksis juicing the gelfling
Deet's got destiny shit going on that could make or break the entire PLANET, not just their species, if she doesn't find a way to deal with the Darkening

Considering how Thra looks by Jen and Kira's time, I think that's a "doesn't"

t. Hup

Im curious to see if theyre gonna retcon some shit so they get a happy ending somehow

>40 fuckin SU threads
>1 Dank Crystal thread
HmmmMMMMMMMmmmmmhhh

why would we want 40
a single good Crystal thread at a time is perfect.

Are they planning a second season?

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Didn't they invent Baneposting? Besides they have made more than Yea Forums

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True nigs of culture know where to go, can't help this board's shit taste

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Based and MMMMMpilled

The creators certainly are
Whether Netflix gives it to them is the real question

Why do they treat the scientist so badly? He’s literally the only one actually solving their problems shit they wouldn’t even have essence draining without him

>Wanting to fracture the Dark Crystal thread
Peeper beetle! Peeper beetle!

WHEN WE FAIL OURSELVES

I hope so but, it ends on a vague enough note you could fill in the blanks between it and the movie.

They have to treat someone badly to ascend. He's the physically weakest so is the least likely to win any challenge he raises.

she kinda is, she's the one given the epic quest and she gets the powers. If anyone's Luke, it's her.

also leave /myboy/ Rian alone, he suffered enough

WE MUST BE PUNISHED!
*CLANK*

>I WANTED TO FIGHT!
>I AM NOT A COWARD!
I shouldn't feel sympathy, but I do

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>dark crystal tv show
>it's actually really fucking good
>almost 10 hours of skeksis shenanigans
kino

Hot Mira lewds

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Oh thank god
she's dead

hmmmMMMMMMMMNNNNNG!

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>pale skin and hair
>kinda weird
>adopted by Ydra after her mother's passing
So, is Kira gonna end up being Deet's daughter?

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Maybe, but someone posted in one of the Yea Forums threads that the necklace that Brea got from the village woman is the same symbol as the one on Kira's tunic.

And then you have Deet's future vision that has what looks like Brea running from a Garthim holding what could be a baby.

is this worth watching or is it kid shit or cringe?

The pattern on Kira's dress got turned into the Vapran clan symbol, so she might be Brea's kid. On the other hand, Vaprans and Grottans are literally just two clans that used to be one.

The Heretic is a pretty cool guy.

Actually, it's not the Vapran clan symbol. It's just some symbol that one of the villagers at the tithe had, which was apparently some family heirloom.

Absolutely the best way they could have handled a "good" Skeksis

How the main trio is going to die?

Literally the best Yea Forums show this year

I feel Deet's vision pretty much shows us.
Deet and Rian are probably going to die when he tries to fulfill the prophecy, and if Brea is Kira's mom - then she'll get murdered by that Garthim.

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The scenes with the arrival of the the Scroll Keeper and the Collector made them seem like they're suffering from dementia. They're incapable of fully being what they once were and are clinging onto habit more than anything else.

Mira's death was fucked. She trusted the Skeksis, they were her lords, her kings, her gods.

And they murdered her. And laughed while they murdered her. That was the last thing she heard. It wasn't Rian calling her name or Thra calling her home. It was the Skeksis laughing at her

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wtf why is this a sticky?

Said as his slave servants plant how to cut their sewed mouth and escape their abuse.

Based mods

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If the Emperor had just worded it slightly differently, saying his work on the Garthim was the most pressing of their concerns or that his knowledge of the Crystal/Medical skills/Essence extraction abilities were far too important to the Skeksis to risk his life in combat, it would have probably mollified him for the most part. But no, they goof on him because he's the nerd. It's a wonder he hasn't poisoned the whole lot's essence yet

It certainly was fun watching him carry on alone in the castle bossing around the podlings though

Lmao
Fucking nice

>It certainly was fun watching him carry on alone in the castle bossing around the podlings though
Now I wanna see a "When the Emperor isn't home" drawing with skekTek on the trombone and a podling smashing an oven.

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HmmmmMMMMMMmmmmmmm

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What to fuck Gelfling yes?
Embrace Deethra in physical contact hhmmmmMmmm?
WELL TOO BAD
ALL GELFLING DIE
CHAMBERLIN SEE TO IT
YOU LOSE
SKEKSIS FOREVER!

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Best line?
Hard mode, no Emperor bants or anything from SkekSil

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Hup...want...die...

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Hup was totally gonna get some All-Maudra pussy. damn SkekVar why you gotta cockblock a brother like that

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>the lighting
It's so good brehs

This entire show is memebait of the highest order

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Got a cap of Chamberlain saying >FALSE ?

I'm getting caps from tumblr, and haven't run across it yet.

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Can we all agree that the Hunter and Hup are the absolute chads of their race?

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You know it breh

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Hup better at least tell Deet how he feels and move on with dignity next season.

I GROW TIRED OF YOUR WHIMPERING, SKEKSIL

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so what's the lore?

Skeksis are jerks.

Hunter and Archer are the best Halves without a doubt. I like Heretic and Wanderer, but they're not on the level of H&A.

Also Hup is truly the apex Podling, 5 bucks he raises Kira when the time comes.

I'll say it, gelfling girls looked cute.

u rite

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Poor guy won't even get a second chance. In the movie, he is the only Skeksis other than the Emperor that dies before the Great Conjunction which makes them whole Urskeks.

He dies burning to death in the crystal pit.

I'm disappointed that Scroll Keeper had such a small role, despite his introduction.

YOU. TOOK. MY. SEAT.

But Deet is a Grottan. She a filthy green Gefling that should go back to the dirty cave where she came from.

She belongs on my lap.
Alternatively on my bed.

He also managed to be affable to Brea. Also funny how he called his partner ugly, how he got Brea to hug him, how he shamed tax-payers, and how he acted prudish in the bath.

What happened between the Librarian and Cadia?

>Skeksis are old and decrepit
>still beat the shit out of the gelfling castle uprising and drained them all
Imagine being some of the greatest gelfling warriors trained for years for defending the castle and crystal, and some old fat fuck like the Gourmand just slaps your shit. Skeks truly are the apex species on Thra.

Yeah I strongly suspected this also.

>Gelflings are 2 to 3 feet tall
Imagine

Surprisingly not fumbled into oblivion as I feared it would be. Praise fucking christ they got rid of Genndy "I have destroyed all of Western animation" Turdokovsky early.

Well fuck.

Lol

>tiny population of evil lizard creatures ruling and exploiting brave but naive people called Goyflings
>the show is named "Age of Resistance"
Even a board half as antisemitic as Yea Forums would go nuts for this.

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It's what happens when you're half the size of the guy you're fighting.
It actually spoke volumes about Rian and his father with how well the two of them did against the Hunter though.

I'll do it myself a bit later then
I can grab some others if I know what episode and whereabouts they are if anyone wants

Yeah, it took 3 normal Gelfings to block a single sword swing from one Skesis. They are weak as fuck

>I hope you taste better than you fight!

Why do the gelfling even bother training to be soldiers for the skeksis?

What was Genndy gonna do?

I wanna say to fight anything but Skesis but have you seen the type of monsters in this world?

Nurlocs, Arathims, the tentacle pit, gurkans and for fucks sakes they can't even beat a single hyperactive Podling

>jews are not skeksis! jews are friends! skeksis are evil! hence a jew cannot be a skeksis, foolish goyim! listen to reason...

He would have worked on the sequel movie that was reworked into Power of the Dark Crystal
user is a faggot

And he was rightly removed early on. Tranon is a tranny.

They indicate that the Gelfling fought the Arathim in the last big conflict with them but I get a chuckle imagining all but the best just getting massacred until one or two of the Skeks have to get off their asses and beat some spider ass

They had the intelligence to listen to commands and not require constant supervision.

It would be really hard to make a second season without it just being really fucking depressing. I guess they could integrate the original movie plot into the last act of the second season so that all the horrible gelfling murder and planet-burning corruption would at least be paid off with the healing of the crystal and all that. But if they didn't put the movie plot into it the whole thing would be a huge downer because it would have to set up that ruined world from the movie.

They're space aliens not of Thra. Who knows what weird adaptations they have.

He should have played the role of a dark mirror antagonist for Brea.

don't question Lords of the Crystal, just follow orders

>t-tranny
PATHETIC

So why don't the Mystic's just kill themselves? They're supposed to be the good half right? Wouldn't seeing the entire genocide of the gelflings be enough proof that offing themselves to stop the Skeksis would be the easiest method.

60% of them are.

>DIRTY LOOKY-LOO!

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>They're supposed to be the good half right?
They're not. And the Skeksis aren't the evil or bad half.

Best scene in the whole show. I smiled from ear to ear the entire time I watched giant puppets puppeteering little puppets.

Im glad it had plenty of gross moments, Aura putting her eye back in after putting it in the tub nearly made me choke.

three dicks

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you dont know if thats a dick
it could be female

I love that Skeksis have three dicks is canon now. Just what the fuck.

so do all skeksis have 4 arms? i never noticed if so.

Something about her teeth made her smile so endearing. Just the positioning of everything turned out so adorable.

lmao

They're too lazy to use them. Except the Hunter because he's the god damn best

she has a bit of neoteny going on, it helps a lot.

>Being dragged to your death by a bunch of fat ugly reptile birds as you can only helplessly beg for your life
Fucking primal fear right there.

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I want to see an edit of this With Raiden and the senator.

It's revisionism. I remember paying CLOSE attention to SkekSil's undressing when I watched the movie multiple times in the past to see if the Skeksis had four arms like the mystics and they clearly do not. It's clear as day. They have literally just straight up changed a bunch of shit for this show.

It's not plausible that the Skeksis crushed the palace rebellion single handedly. The effort was undermined by informants and traitors and it was probably Gelfling against Gelfling with the Skeksis draining whoever was left.

The Gelfling only won this time because the Archer killed himself to kill the Hunter, and release Aughra, the Arathim helping, and Deet absorbing the Darkening and becoming a dark mage

>skeksil's face when skekung

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>THE ANCIENT AND SACRED ART OF
>PUPPETRY

They're there, but they're just these tiny shriveled up things that have become vestigial at best. Hunter actually lifted and kept his arms in functional shape.

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Fuck mystics, yesss?

There's that, plus the huge pupils for her dark vision. But just something about the way they designed her mouth, she has the most believable and genuine happy faces of the whole gelfling cast. I'm sure it's done on purpose, but I really liked it.

It's not for this show. There has been plenty of material done for Dark Crystal.
Among these is the detail of Skeksis having another pair of upper-body limbs with webbed fingers making wings. These then atrophied. The Hunter didn't let that stop him from using them.

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For all we know, all the skeksis and mystics who died before the great conjunction ended up going to the same place the reunited urskeks went to when they ascended to a higher plane of existence at the end of the movie

What are the chances we'll get another agile Skesis in the second season?

a better general grievous than general grievous

They're really not.

youtube.com/watch?v=1HH7uHAzI1I

kind of a shame that the Skeksis/urRu foils probably won't be brought up more after this.

>ascended to a higher plane of existence
I think they just went back to their home planet. But yeah, we don't know what happened to the skekses and mystics who died while separated, it could have been good OR bad.

The Heretic might have some moves, he seemed to get over being stabbed in the hand pretty quickly.

That's still not arms. And how old is the "wings" theory? Because I don't remember ever hearing about it even back in the mid-2000s and I read the manuals and shit.

Again, skeksis eating makes me hungry. I don't know what that says about me.

Really? Skeksis eating makes me feel queasy at best, certainly not hungry.

Do I have to fucking outline it for you?

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Doesn't help that people keep posting this thing. Couldn't find a source for it.

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You're full of shit.

I'm pretty sure this story is also revisionist bullshit. There were absolutely no uncertain terms about the Skeksis being the evil half of the Urskeks before this entire continuum of Nu Crystal shit began.

Honestly, I liked age of Resistance, but all this blatant revisionism is souring me on it.

That's your problem.

Froud artwork from the back of the Creation Myths GNs.

Blatant disrespect to source material? Yes. I agree.

Fuck you. Heretic is great

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AoR also changes alot from the books, I'm still trying to sort through my feelings on this one.

People should really think a minute before "loving" everything by default just because it's on Netflix. Each shows is advertised the same, "you must agree we told you it's a cult classic, obey, consume, be happy" over and over.

I don't have a problem with them naming new members, so long as it matches continuity. I think the 18 Urskeks is original to the lore. I thought they were all named though, but I can't remember them all.

The Skeksis as a whole enjoy putting down those weaker than them. They could've punished him with something lighter but our favorite backstabber wanted to get the message across that he is on top.

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>They were originally going to make the Gelfling's and other characters all CGI, only the Skeksis would be puppets
>Netflix said "Can you make it all puppets?" instead and they did
>A Netflix suggestion unironically vastly improved the end product and made it closer to the heart of the original.
There must have been a cosmic event when this show was pitched to them, it couldn't all have gone this right without some kind of divine witchcraft.

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Those aren't even wings in that artwork. They're supposed to be fans being held up by those little back claws.

Wrong. Yea Forums mostly hates Twelve Forever and that's on Netflix.

Skeksa the mariner is the she-chad of Skeksis.

She’s a bird of paradise themed tamed skek with a giant sea creature she uses as her own ship/mount. If there’s any other Skeksis who can bust some moves it would be the pirate herself.

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It's shit. They changed the entire nature of the Skeksis because everyone in this decade is such an immoral chicken shit centrist that even saying the word "evil" is taboo. Everything is "nuanced", even villain is an "anti-villain".

It's pointless to argue. The status quo zombies are in control now. Nobody is allowed to dislike anything for any reason anymore.

a skekChad

Even further then that, the show was gonna be fully animated. The CG/Puppet mix tests were all about the Hensons being hesitant to do Gelfling puppets again because of the problems they had the first time.

I fear that the need to tie-in with the video game will hurt a bit in the end.

Was he suppose to be General Grevous?

>People should really think a minute before "loving" everything by default just because it's on Netflix.
I've never seen this on Yea Forums. ever.

what a scummy, spineless way to damage control.

>Everything is "nuanced", even villain is an "anti-villain".
Mmmm, no.

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Personally I found the movie endearing but flat. It can stand well enough on its own as a piece of cinema, but I have nothing against people serving the hitherto expanded setting as opposed to what they can glean from the 93 minutes that was initially released.

I like the esthetics. And if having more of it sacrifices whatever canon someone else loves, I can only sympathize. I just want more Skeksis.

user, of all the things I feel towards Netflix, "love" isn't one of them.

prove that it happens

>Everything is "nuanced", even villain is an "anti-villain".
are we watching the same show?

Oh, I think I can see it. Could someone post a higher resolution version of that?

>everyone in this decade is such an immoral chicken shit centrist that even saying the word "evil" is taboo. Everything is "nuanced", even villain is an "anti-villain".
But the skekses in the show literally say that their plans are "nefarious" and "evil." The emperor shouts that they can't let Rian escape because he'll tell the other gelflings of their "treachery." In the second half of the season, one of the gelflings calls a skeksis a monster and his response was, "You just noticed?" The only one who's not evil is Heretic, and he has a fucking giant nail in his brain.

Yeah, they started the show with everyone believing the Skeksis were good because for like a millennium they were. This DID NOT HAPPEN in the original lore. It is blatant revisionism for the show.

Yes, AFTER they begin draining gelflings. And they only last another 50 years. That means for most of their history on Thra after the Great Division, they were basically good. Which is complete bullshit.

ok. but how does that make the skeksis nuanced anti-villains?

>Everything is "nuanced"
Imagine thinking this is a bad thing
Send this bitchass to the draining chair

>Skeksis
>Female
Factually inaccurate.

Sometimes evil is just evil. Everyone is too scared for a villain to just be a villain now. The Skeksis were not "enlightened hedonists" for a fucking thousand years. They started bad.

No it's not, there was absolutely old material that said they were benevolent rulers at first and got worse over time

>Besides they have made more than Yea Forums
But are they actually good memes?
Quality > Quantity

Nope. That's the Urskeks. Put up or shut up. The Skeksis almost IMMEDIATELY broke the crystal upon their emergence and chased the mystics from the castle.

>they were basically good
The fuck? They clearly weren't, they just pretended to be for the longest time and never had a reason to be cruel to the Gelflings. Did you forget the Arathim subplot? They started an unprovoked war against the spiders, and made the GELFLINGS(not themselves of course) fight for this war and drive the Spiders out of their ancestral home just to have something more for themselves.

Post draining reveal was how they've always been, they just pretended to be better.

>Sometimes evil is just evil. Everyone is too scared for a villain to just be a villain now. The Skeksis were not "enlightened hedonists" for a fucking thousand years. They started bad.
Boring unless they're draining essences from cute trap gelflings

They were always bad since the split, it's just that they did a very good job at hiding their badness from the Gelflings.

>Skeksis
>Anti-villains
Why, because So admitted that he's afraid of death? That's literally always been the Skeksis motivation for everything they do. The whole reason they're the evil faction is because they're so obsessed with personal survival they'd gleefully commit specicide and poison/corrupt an entire world just to cling to existence for a little longer.

>That means for most of their history on Thra after the Great Division, they were basically good.
Uh... no? They were keeping up appearances while essentially enslaving all the gelflings, sowing discord among their tribes, draining the life force of the planet, and intentionally spreading and hiding the existence of the Darkening. Even before they drained Mira, there was the tithe scene, which shows them being evil and abusive as fuck toward the gelflings.

Exactly this. The Heretic even admitted his name was "the conqueror" and was known for his cruelty before he got a vision and the rest of the Skeksis cast him out

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>When Scientist builds a miniature Essence Drainer and Gourmand shows it off

They also supposedly built Aughra's orrery and were basically benevolent rulers. Also, can we just accept for fucking once that people actually HAVE SAID WHAT THEY HAVE FUCKING SAID ON A PIECE OF SHIT BLUE BOARD?

Even Aughra IN the fucking show reiterates that the Skeksis were good centuries ago.

Yeah no shit. I know that. But apparently Froud doesn't. See: That's not even correct.

You people aren't even arguing with me at this point. You're arguing with the lore established in comics and the show now, which are all wrong.

This thread. literally every netflix original content. You defended the fucking Saint Seiya remake for shit sake.

Not just netflix. Literally anything that happens or is made now. The default position is to shill like mad for it and defend it against anyone who might not have a worshipful stance of it. Frankly such subhumans need to be cleansed for the betterment of the species.

Even if you were right, which you fucking aren't, it would be more fitting for them to have the same basic body plan as the Mystics, so even if it were a revision it would IMO be one that makes some sense.

Here's the full concept art spreads of the newborn Skeksis.

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>Even if you were right, which you fucking aren't
Oh shut the hell up. You aren't even old enough to know either way. And you clearly haven't even seen the fucking movie, because the Skeksis and Mystics have totally different body plans.

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>Even Aughra IN the fucking show reiterates that the Skeksis were good centuries ago.
Except Heretic describes the whole process of building the orrery and promising to protect the crystal as trickery so they could take the power of the crystal for themselves. Aughra remembers them being good because they were PRETENDING TO BE GOOD TO GET HER TO GO AWAY.

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Those don't count

Young Mystics

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>all this seethe
Looks like we found some Gelflings with vigor
Wanna come to the Crystal Castle boyos?

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Baby skeksis are cute! Cute!

Pretty sure Aughra is referring to the time when they were urSkeks.

I don't mind a little spirited discussion
Just be mindful to not go overboard fellas, these threads are a nice place

I would be honored to join my Lords as a guest in their hallowed castle.

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>PRETENDING TO BE GOOD TO GET HER TO GO AWAY.
Even if that's the case, they still were mostly benevolent rulers that had unquestioned loyalty for a millenium and they didn't even realize they were fucking the crystal up. So it wasn't even intentional. Even the darkening was discovered by accident by SkekSo.

She isn't. It's clear in the show.

>They also supposedly built Aughra's orrery
Heretic said they did that to trick her and hey what do you know...
>were basically benevolent ru
Except to the Podlings, and the Arathim, and everything else that got in the way of the CONQUEROR who's title is not indicative of anything. No but yeah because they didn't shoot the Gelflings who gave them Tithes in the face for no reason, they weren't evil. Spider-Genocide? What Spider-Genocide?
>Even Aughra IN the fucking show reiterates that the Skeksis were good centuries ago.
She said they were friends. Mmmmm, friend to Augrah, yesss...

Even then, who knows, maybe they weren't all bad if you were a Gelfling, but that doesn't mean they were shitheels, does it?

Not him but there was some truth to that though, at the very least the Scientist had some genuine affection for Aughra
>We used to be friends once
>...Another world....another time...
And keep in mind he had no reason to word it like that since she already ready to die as far as they knew.

Apparently Aughra, the fucking spirit of the world just happened to miss all the genocide but noticed when the crystal farted.

Very good, wise All-Maudra. Now bend over for these three dicks.

Now I'm just wondering where the fuck the game fits into all this'
youtube.com/watch?v=LhPhF_4g6Hw

Honestly, the more this is discussed, the more obvious it is that they've fucked the lore up so much that even if you just examine the lore IN AoR, it's contradictory, and not just "Hurr duh Skeksis lied" either. Even the opening narration confusingly claims the Skeksis came to Thra, not the Urskeks.

>that had unquestioned loyalty for a millenium a
From the Gelflings, more specifically the rulers they specifically chose to rule each clan and in exchange they were treated like gods and given free stuff from "Even the poorest of Gelfling". Where is the nuance in that?
>they didn't even realize they were fucking the crystal up
They didn't accidentally drain the thing.
> So it wasn't even intentional
Its not intentional to run out yeah, that's right. What's the issue here? I think their actions immediately after that discovery told you if they were evil or not.
>ven the darkening was discovered by accident by SkekSo.
I mean if I find a gun by accident I'm still evil if I immediately tell everyone there's no gun and all gunfearers are betrayers before I start using it to shoot people.

You sound like the type of person who would think a slave owner is a good guy just because he doesn't whip the people he considers to be his property. They weren't actually benevolent, they divided the gelflings and sowed discord and mistrust among their tribes and taxed all of them so they could sit in their castle and gorge themselves without effort. Chamberlain talks about how he has always spread lies and rumors that kept the gelfling infighting to prevent them from noticing how they're being exploited by the skekses. The skekses are and always have been parasites exploiting Thra for their own benefit, and to maintain their ability to do so they put on a friendly face when they go down to steal "tithes" from the people.

This, I mean why wouldn't they just happily take credit for a favor that the Urskeks did for her? On top of this, it is within an evil ruler's vested self-interest to make friends, what reason would they have to court conflict by being overtly malicious? They're only doing it now because they've calculated that once they have their immortality they won't have to pretend to be good company anymore. You take good care of a tool when you need it and throw it in the trash when it's no longer useful, or you destroy it to convert it into something more useful to your goals.

Did you not see Episode 7? I'm sure they did the opening narration like that to surprise the viewer with the puppet puppet show.

>Even the opening narration confusingly claims the Skeksis came to Thra, not the Urskeks.
WATCH THE FUCKING SHOW RETARD
THEY LITERALLY ADDRESS THIS

>Apparently Aughra, the fucking spirit of the world
She wasn't the spirit of the world, if she was she wouldn't need to walk up to the Crystal in order to see how fucked up it was. She had no idea before she got in the castle because Thra wouldn't speak to her anymore.
>just happened to miss all the genocide
She wouldn't have gotten involved anyway because it would just 'return to Thra'.
>but noticed when the crystal farted.
Opposite. She did not notice that until the Crystal, with her face, told her that she stank.

We're usually best off ignoring tie in games

>Even the opening narration confusingly claims the Skeksis came to Thra, not the Urskeks.
Right because we're not supposed to know about those yet, because none of our characters do aside from Augrha, the Gelflings we're following wouldn't know. They reveal the whole Urskeks thing later, to the audience and characters

I'm just upset that it blatantly changes shit from the novels, which I loved. This show was advertised as if it goes hand-in-hand with the novels, and now it feels like the show itself is slapping me in the face for liking them.

>Even the opening narration confusingly claims the Skeksis came to Thra, not the Urskeks.
That's because it's an unreliable narrator telling us the history as the gelflings knew it, and we find out the true history from Heretic and Wanderer's puppet show. Heretic even literally says, "The TRUE history of Thra!"

>They didn't accidentally drain the thing.
They clearly didn't even realize they WERE draining it. That was obvious in literally the first episode. Did you even watch the show?

>Its not intentional to run out yeah, that's right. What's the issue here? I think their actions immediately after that discovery told you if they were evil or not.
AGAIN, which literally happen 1,000 years into their reign and 50 years before they either all die or fuck off of Thra, which implies the Skeksis were only really bad for like half a century, which is utterly ridiculous.

I'm not the one who wrote this new and shit lore. See: >You people aren't even arguing with me at this point. You're arguing with the lore established in comics and the show now, which are all wrong.

Stop spending your every waking breath fucking shilling and start following the plot.

It's not a surprise if you've seen the movie.

NO THEY DO NOT. Unlike every retard zoomer in this thread, I've actually seen the fucking movie.

I think you work for the show. You can't convince me otherwise now. You've dug too far in.

I love how Chamberlain had to lie to Hunter about Rian's murder charge since Hunter does not care for essence draining. He probably would have still accepted the challenge of the hunt regardless.

The original lore is a 90 minute film where the skeksis mostly growl and snarl at each other with minimal actual dialogue. There isn't enough material there for the show's interpretation to count as revisionism. In fact it borders on being a blank slate; there is so little about the skeksis that is elaborated on in the movie that you can do just about anything with them in a prequel without violating the spirit of the movie.

Sorry, not listening to you anymore. We've already "established" that Aughra is so dumb she can't figure her ass from a hole in the ground, so I'm afraid you've dug yourself such a hole that she has to be subtracted from any equation that requires her to have two functioning brain cells.

A somewhat asymmetrical giant made of rocks and operated by a magic gem pendant that you stick in its mouth.

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>>You people aren't even arguing with me at this point. You're arguing with the lore established in comics and the show now, which are all wrong.
>Stop spending your every waking breath fucking shilling and start following the plot.
I have never read a single comic or novel, I'm telling you what I saw from the SHOW and why it is CONSISTENT with the MOVIE. The show does not portray the skekses as truly benevolent rulers, it portrays them as abusive rulers manipulating the fuck out of everyone. And I guess they did a good job, because even you fell for it as an audience member.

>109780962
>NO THEY DO NOT
Literal retard
Won't even justify this with a You

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There were companion materials written to go along with the Dark Crystal such as this. Every bit of it is blatantly contradicted by the show. Some of us are old enough to realize what's wrong with this picture.

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Yo genuis. You could have bothered to Google who Brian Froud is

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>*ahmmmMMMMmmmm*

Goddamn bless you, user.

Its mostly a consequence of the books probably having been developed in conjunction with an earlier outline of the show and the show writers loving "Spider-Tavra" so much they wanted to move her to the main plot.

I say this as someone who was also disappointed about the books being relegated to a broad strokes relationship to the show, but I wasn't necessarily surprised by it since part of me knew the TokyoPop Mangas were gonna get jettisoned off the timeline when I saw the Collector's redesign.

>They clearly didn't even realize they WERE draining it.
They obviously did, the first episode made it clear they didn't know it had a BOTTOM, did you listen to them ranting? They thought it would last forever and were freaked out because it ran dry.
>which implies the Skeksis were only really bad for like half a century
To the Gelflings. Arathim have a different timetable, and I don't wanna know how the Podlings felt.
>I think you work for the show
Well that's not paranoid or anything.

Well obviously you didn't watch one or the other, because in the movie, the Skeksis have TWO arms, NOT four, they START evil, not good and Aughra isn't a moron.

>AGAIN, which literally happen 1,000 years into their reign and 50 years before they either all die or fuck off of Thra, which implies the Skeksis were only really bad for like half a century, which is utterly ridiculous.
Eh, I don't really see why it would be. They found it more convenient to simply rule, accept the gelfling service and tributes, and their help fighting enemies like the arathim
Up to the time of the series, they were getting along just fine with taking energy from the Crystal. Seems reasonable enough for things to all go to hell quickly when they discover the essence, which kicks up the whole rebellion shit, which convinces the skeksis to give up on the pretense of running things like normal

>TITS ARE TEMPORARY, THE HUNT IS ETERNAL

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>AGAIN, which literally happen 1,000 years into their reign and 50 years before they either all die or fuck off of Thra, which implies the Skeksis were only really bad for like half a century, which is utterly ridiculous.
So you're just going to ignore the part of the show where it's revealed that the gelflings were manipulated by the skekses to murder and drive away the spiders from Grot so long ago that Deet thinks the Grottan gelflings have always been there? The show touches on all kinds of nefarious shit the skekses have been doing for ages, you're just ignoring it all.

Problem is, Froud is contradicting his own and others' previous work on the original movie. Even the designers openly admitted they couldn't remember how they made the original movie, so I'm sure most of this is simply due to them not remembering everything and filling in the gaps with noticeably bad research of the original source material or disregard for it.

>I think you work for the show.
I what now.

I'm describing what happened, in the show. Augrha couldn't hear the Song of Thra, its a pretty major plotpoint. It takes up like 3 episodes. She did not know the state the Crystal was in, also a major plotpoint that is shown by having her walk up and speak to it, and the Crystal talk to her using her face from the last time she saw it. I've dug too far by referencing the show?

Okay?

Except they've always had four arms, but only one pair is actually useful.

>rock creature
>operated by placing a thing in its mouth

So its a jewish golem?

Done responding to you. You're just lying at this point. Not even reading your posts anymore.

>To the Gelflings. Arathim have a different timetable, and I don't wanna know how the Podlings felt.
At least so long as SkekNa wasn't around, not the WORST. There's the casual verbal abuse and slapping around but at least they weren't being rounded up and mind-wiped in those days
And the other podling settlements we see that aren't castle servants seemed fairly unconcerned with the state of things

That's showbiz for you. Either learn to live with it or stop following media franchises.

I literally posted a clip of the Chamberlain being stripped in this thread. Watch it yourself.

>You're just lying at this point.
Not paranoid at all!

>the Skeksis have TWO arms, NOT four
I know, I just don't care about that particular revision.
>they START evil
As they do in the show, which I have explained in several ways at this point.
>Aughra isn't a moron
She's not a moron in the show, either, she was just tricked. In the movie she's wise to the skekses evil because the movie takes place after she figured it out while the show takes place at the moment when she only just started figuring it out.

Nah, Lore actually cares about Deet
Even if he was specifically programmed to

This is like arguing Palpatine was always a good boy until suddenly he wasn't, and then user getting very angry about it.

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Alright I'm done. I liked AoR, but now I hate it due to its creators. Enjoy your zoomer bait dogshit. I'm not coming back for the second season. Hope it gets cancelled.

I uh, think the guy ran out of arguments. Like he was so sure he had contradictions that when presented with evidence otherwise, he just shuts down. He was so sure that when shown a picture of Skesil with tiny arms he just says it isn't there.

Poor guy.

>zoomer
Bye, YOU WHIMPERING WORM

>evision.
They're clearly right there! You can see them! Its not revision, its clearly on his back! What else are those supposed to be?

Lore imprinted on Brea, not Deet.

Well I was surprised by it, and I'm still trying to cope with it. Because J.M. Lee was involved I was expecting the show to flawlessly dove-tail into and out of the story of the novels, but there's stuff in there that's just completely different and some characters don't even act the same. So now I'm wondering how much of a spineless coward J.M. Lee is and if he just capitulated to any and every demand the other writers made, or if he's just stupid enough to not realize this would obviously piss off his readers.

>Hope it gets cancelled
No

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Whether it is or not, I literally don't care because it doesn't matter.

Jesus all this autism

FOR A EXTRA PAIR OF ARMS

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Deet's waifu powerlevel is so high she replaces other characters in my mind!
SkekSo save us, she's too strong!

One million percent based and nopilled.

That's putting it lightly. I'm literally diagnosed autistic and I think the arms argument is autistic as fuck.

>I looked through several timelines, looking at each one's Dark Crystal reboot
>how many?
>fourteen million eight hundred and five
>how many where it's actually kino?
>....one

>And then deet, hup, and 2/5's of rian survived. They together would continue the gelfling race until Jen and Kiva could fulfill the prophecy of the great conjugation.
>You may ask, does that mean Jen and Kira are related?
>Haha, good night kids!

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>bwahahahahahahah

Both the show and the novels are an elaboration of a paragraph from that book though. Problem is the showrunners held off on actually showing the creation of the Wall of Destiny in the season finale in favor of La Deet Violeta.

>For once they took thought for the future. They sought to know if the Crystal might be healed, if the Skeksis rule must continue. They lit the flames of prophecy, they took counsel from the flames. Seven circles of seven Gelfling lay on the hilltops all night, their faces to the stars. Their dreams were made stone; the Wall of Destiny still stands. There the Gelflings were shown the Quest for the lost Shard, and they were shown the healing of the Crystal by the hand of a Gelfling, replacing the Shard by the light of a Great Conjunction. And there too they were shown the ruin of the Gelfling, the fall of their houses. And the Wall stood for all to see.

And that's a screencap from that same fucking scene, but you're so goddamn blind you can't see them.

I don't think he understands what it means for the arms to be shriveled and atrophied.

>Problem is the showrunners held off on actually showing the creation of the Wall of Destiny in the season finale in favor of La Deet Violeta.
That's because if they showed the Wall of Destiny being created it would ruin the possibility of a second season.

not to mention the gruenaks

I saw that Jamie Fox movie where he is naked though large parts of it. Netflix does not qualify for automatic acceptance, ever.

I could pull my bluray and skim through but I just don't care because THEY'RE FUCKING EXTRA LIMBS

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Yeah, I'm guessing it'll be in the Season 2 opening if we get one. I mean, even Lisa Henson's admitted that they've only used about half of the original pitch's episodes because they were afraid of rushing things.

>You're arguing with the lore established in comics and the show now, which are all wrong.
>one of the first things they do in the comics is present themselves as gelfling benefactors

user, I understand reading is hard, but you could at least pretend to be smart by actually looking up your sources.

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CHAMBERLAIN!
LAY DOWN THAT EVIDENCE!

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Did anyone else think that early on in the 10th episode, when the Scientist walks in on the Emperor and General, that it wasn't Mark Hamill's voice for the first few lines? It sounds like the puppeteer's voice wasn't replaced

After the bath scene, I was really hoping both he and the Collector were going to have larger parts

.They're probably ex-boyfriends who hate seeing each other's faces.

I think most of them had a set of arms on their back, and as they grew old, they've shrunken, possibly atrophied. I've imagined that a lot of the "humps" sewn into the robes hide them, and maybe some of the weird spines and barbs could even be concealing where they are.

But I believe that in the 10th episode, during the scene where the Skeksis are preparing for battle, they are using their second, nearly useless set of arms, struggling to hold up their weird flag things on their backs.

NONONONONONONOOOOOOOOO THIS CAN'T BE REAL

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Revisionanon must be seething so hard right now.

Back on topic

Who else here is dying to see Hup's reaction to Deet's corruption

Ahhh. SkekRid, my favorite Skeksis

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I'm dying to see the Skesis go full war mode with the Garthim

Jesus we should just email the JHC and just ask "What do you mean they were good before Augrah tripped out?"

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The suffering is the best part of this show aside from Chamberlain always getting away with it.

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>18 UrSkek
>19 are named

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Are you specifically looking for another set of arms under the workable pair? Because the 2nd pair is on his back, and the little paws are kinda hugging his shoulders.

At the beginning there were 20 UrSkeks.
Two died right after the split when the skeksis tried to kill the urRu

They are included in the 18. 18 urSkeks were banished from their homeworld.

I'll be an emotional fucking wreck during any Deet scene next season. Our cinnamon roll didn't deserve this.

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oh

To be fair, you would think a planet that size would have enough life beams to support 12-18 avian creatures without it having any impact.

That's silly user, he would need a Mystic counterpar-OH MY GOD

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HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

The whole point is that they're the evil side of ancient aliens, how hard is it for brainlets itt to understand?

>Deet vaporizes Hup during an episode of lost control
>comes back to lucidity later and wonders where he went

to be honest, the lore of metroid being inspired by the dark crystal is totally plausible

There's gonna be so much suffering come season 2

The Heretic is gonna make out alive is he?

Isn't *

Because they're literally so autistic that they can't tell the difference between an abusive ruler putting on a friendly face to hide his abuse and that ruler being a genuinely benevolent and well-meaning ruler.

>The Heretic
ten bucks on the heretic and wanderer ascending somehow

>spoiler
Skekso.jpg

autism user is literally Seladon

Also, there's a couple of Skeksis names that got changed or dropped sometime between TokyoPop and Archaia. Like the manga designated the Mariner as SkekCru and also had a Spymaster named SkekEer, but they were basically single-page cameos.

>spoiler

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Fuck Seladon. Tonal whiplash how she was suddenly redeemed. Should've been drank. Yes, essence. HHhHMHMHHMH.

How big is a Skeksis and could you kick it's ass?

she needs to SUFFER MORE

Like 7 feet tall? Maybe? Depends. They're frail fucks when it comes to the movie but the show has them still drinking essence.

What do you think essence tastes like?

I think they're around 5 feet tall. You could kick em in the balls if you tried.

>because in the movie, the Skeksis have TWO arms, NOT four

No, they have four. In the director's commentary he points out that skeksis are supposed to have four arms like the mystics and they are withered and tucked under their. Robes. He even points it out when Chamberlain gets defrocked.

If you look at the actual puppet the used, you can see the little frog arms right behind his back hump.

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Gelfling are between 2 and 3 feet tall, so the skekses must be 8-9 feet tall if you consider that they're hunched over all the time.

Pretty I could beat them easily

Except for the Hunter, that dude is basically the Predator

I've been thinking about this non-stop. I hate to be a humanity-fuck-yeah guy, but I honestly think a human could fair well in Thra. Gelflings and other small races ain't shit and Skeksis while probably dangerous, seem likely on the frail side and it'd be a different story if they were fighting a creature around their size rather than the things they fight in the series/film.

Plus, I think some weird shit would happen because humans would be just as alien to the setting as UrSkeks are.

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Probably. I'm a huge fat bastard and the Skeks are not especially bulky, not to mention they are rotting. Touching one would probably get you sick.

skekMal could probably carve me up tho, that fucker is badass

I appreciate how despite the Skeksis having a certainly level of contempt for each other, they all seem to have a sort of reverence and love for The Hunter.

Caffè mocha, if I had to guess.

that or they were all massively shook at the thought of one of them dying

Let's face it, we'd all get outplayed and shanked by Chamberlain

Even before that, they all practically shit themselves at the very thought that Chamberlain would call for him.

They're about man-sized but I'd guess they're stronger in spite of being thousand year old boomers. Consider how handily they wield those enormous curved greatswords, even in their twilight years they can hit hard enough to knock notches and sparks out of the trial stone and eventually shatter it. An average human would have the advantage in endurance though, without essence they'd probably gas out in a matter of a minute or two, on top of probably being afflicted with all the kinds of ailments that age brings like brittle bones and stiff tendons, reduced lung capacity, failing eyesight, etc. Mal shows that in their prime they must be superhumanly fast, strong, and physically robust, but by the point we see them they're much degraded.

I can see it
Metroid Prime had a lot of designs that I could imagine being from Henson Workshop

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Darkening the bugs away (*clap-clap*) immortality isn’t far away!
Genocide away (*clap-clap*) Down at caves of grot.

Drink essense all day, to live on for another day
Let the gelflings play!

“We're Rian, Deet, Gurjin, Brea, Hup!”

“Hey look Skekso I found a Gelfing!”

The conjunction’s years away. (*clap-clap*) Thraa will end another day
Let the Gelflings play (*clap-clap*)
Down in caves of grot
Down in caves of grot
Down in caves of grot

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So did Twilight Princess, though its much more Labyrinth-y.

I had a daydream that 80's sci-fi practical effect humans (Aliens, Enemy Mine kind of look) exits in the Thra universe and could potentially crash-land

Quality over quantity

Its kind of weird how they portray the strength of the Skeksis. Their magic mostly seems the ability to tell things to do things and they appear in pitiful shape except when they want to kill something.

Gelflings are a bit all over the place. Apparently a gelfling has the strength of a small child but two of them can fight a skeksis who is strong enough to leap treetop to treetop.

jesus. practical effect humans would be scary looking fuckers, I bet.

>all she finds is a charred spoon
please no

gruenak genocide will not be forgotten
those deaths were fucking brutal

Good post!

it's getting better

Skeksis have high STR but low CON and low DEX. A human could beat them by staying light on his feet, but they could knock the human's lights out if they got a hit in.

Nintendo and Jim Henson company do seem to be on really good terms with each other in recent years
Remember that one time they turned Nintendo's figureheads into Muppets?

That said it's probably a coincidence

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>Virgin wanting their magic rocks embodied by a girl.
>Chad having their magic rocks be an omnious force that is responsible for both good and evil.

I wish more kid/family media wasn't afraid to go a little dark like this. It really reminded me of the shit I would watch as a kid that actually respected that I could handle a little darkness and trusted me to understand what was going on without watering everything down and over-explaining it.

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I mean humans in movies from the 80s that used practical effects, with big hair and always looking sweaty

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>that continuous opening shot leading to Hup singing in his prison cell

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>This thread

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They ain't all that pretty that's for sure.

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Was that actually Henson? I thought they were just generic puppets.

Sure but imagine REPRESENTATIONS of those sweaty niggas with big hair AS henson puppets

yes, but now imagine those were made by aliens using humans as inspiration

Yeah, they even had a video with Brian Henson and Miyamoto

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>still assblasted despite the thread being long away from that topic now
get help

Nope, it was a legitimate collab between the two
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>corruption 80%

youtube.com/watch?v=4ANzA2fQ8Gc

Neat!

>She's gone from mild goth to... depressed goth!

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If Deet kills Hup, I will sob like there's no tomorrow.
I think he was just joking

>TRY GETTING YOUR FREEDOM NOW YOU FUCKING STUPID GRUENAK
a little out of place, they really went dark with AoR

It seems like it really depends on the Skeksis and how old it is. I mean the Hunter was as old as the rest of them, and while fit as fuck he was still wrinkled by time. I take this to mean that even he was likely stronger still back in his prime. But even as an old man /fit/ bro he was leaping 30 foot gaps in the forest from tree to tree and hopping from the parapets of the castle like nothing. That's just really something humans aren't capable of. I mean the hunter was doing some literal Naruto shit in that forest. Skeksis seem like they are capable of unnatural strength when fit. But they are also really weak in many ways. I mean Gelflings are the size of your average second grader right? How hard is it to body a class of second graders? if you pit me and seven of my fat fuck friends in some armor and pit us against two whole classes of second graders with axes and swords, well that group of children is going to get demolished without issue.
I feel like I could take any of the old Skeksis except the hunter because he has magic /fit/ ninja strength. And depending on how much stronger the Skeksis were when in their prime I figure I'd probably get crushed by a young and fit Skeksis if they were ever anywhere near hunter's old man strength.

This would fit but also be horribly, horribly uncanny

if humans WERE going to be included I could accept them just being in space suits with tinted or opaque visors, that would honestly be the best approach

>when the darkening is too dark

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Seriously how is this show PG?

Because it's puppets.

>fighting skeksis when you could instead get stoned with the mystics

nah the Gelfling will have tied you up and roasted you over a fire faster than you can say Yub-Nub

>Deet goes into hypermode

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Silence is defeat. user won an internet argument today.

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With stuff like this and Infinity Train hopefully that means some dark stuff will come back to kiddie tv.

>ESTO ES EL FIN SKEKSO

Was Infinity Train really all that dark though? I thought it was pretty basic on the whole

>In the 870th trine of our rule, skekSo released this, "No!", his most accomplished album. I think his undisputed masterpiece is "Hip to drain essence" a song so catchy, most people probably don't listen to the lyrics. But they should, because it's not just about the pleasures of ruling as Emperor, and the importance of paying your tithe, it's also a personal statement about the Emperor himself.
>HEY GRUENAK!

>when you a mystic and your skeksis counterpart is being a bitch so you punch yourself in the balls to teach him a lesson

It really wasn't. The only dark thing Infinity Train had was those soul stealing dog cockroaches.

All of seven of them!?

Just goes to show how low Yea Forums standards are for "dark" these days

>When you finally found companionship, with friendship, and maybe even love with the Mystic with the prettiest nose you've ever laid your eyes on...

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I don't want to say the Skeksis Dindu nuffin, but they are certainly a lot more relateable and interesting than the mystics, and I suppose that's part of the point, all of the proactive nature of the Urskeks had to go to one of them. Despite literally draining the life from weird elf creatures it's still sad to see them grappling with their mortality. All their memories of being whole are unpleasant, and reuniting is a death sentence. There really is no way out for them.

>Imagine

I wonder if future episodes could have us see mystics as POV characters
Probably not, given that they're confined to the place where they've hidden out and they need to stay put so Jen can be sent into their care, but one can imagine

cursed

My favorite part was with that bitch Seladon continuing to bs her whole reasoning even as the Skeksi's continued to fucking laugh and not even try and lie to her face.

So fucking good.

we're streaming the dark crystal movie on cytube. /r/StuartLittle is the room.

I think the skekses are naturally more relatable because while they're the evil counterparts to the mystics, that flawed nature is what makes them feel more "human." The mystics are so good-natured that they're kind of boring on their own and only interesting as a foil to the skekses in whom we see our reflection.

>That one Skeksis whose opulent robes always smell like old jizz because his Mystic counterpart does nothing but smoke gelf-weed and jerk off all day every day.

ever think the Mystics fuck with the Skeksis like this on purpose? Like, if they know that a ritual is coming up and it's likely that the Skeksis are going to eat Podlings or something, a few Mystics will lie on a bed of nails during meditation or walk on hot coals in a trance?

they seem more aggressively senile than their counterparts so I doubt it

>does nothing but smoke gelf-weed and jerk off all day every day.

So every mystic then?

>Oh god, my mystic half deank a carton of milk. He knows I'm lactose intolerant!

OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH

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What if the Skeksis became grouchy, insane monsters after lifetimes of itches they can't scratch due to the Mystics just ignoring the sensations?

Putting humans in Thra would be fucking gay. We'd be like giants to them.

>The mystics are so good-natured that they're kind of boring on their own and only interesting as a foil to the skekses in whom we see our reflection.
I really liked Archer in this for that reason, he was a look into the Mystics we never really saw before, one confronted with the idea he has to face his darker half in combat or be the reason for the downfall of the entire land. Archer was no doubt one of the most able characters in the entire series and likely the only one who's sniper abilities could counter the Hunter's sheer raw power, but still insisted he would have no venue for victory. Come to find out, he was just as afraid of death as the other Skeksis, he could have ended the Hunter at any time but was too afraid of what came after to do what was needed. I love that the moment he knew he had to end it all was the moment he was 'whole' with Hunter once more, in that near death he was much like an Urskek again, and he finally got the courage to end it all before Hunter absolutely destroyed the resistance in its infancy.

It was just nice seeing that, good as they were, the Mystics were no less flawed and afraid of death.

the only way I could accept it would be a scenario like two Gelflings chasing a "falling star" only to find the wreckage of a strange metal machine and a dying giant with a bulky space suit, or something like pic related, but it would be pretty pointless to add humans

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>and reuniting is a death sentence
kind of but not really

If there's aliens aside from the UrSkeks who would ever come to Thra, I just want it to be some one-shot FarScape reference or something that isn't really brought up again.

The Skeksis window of consciousness will end then and there. If there is anything left of them it will be buried and they will experience the same unpleasant existence the emperor was recalling.
If it's not death it can be considered worse.

or a Augrah flashback depicting other planets with some form of civilization during her travels through the cosmos

If humans are going to Thra, it'd be fucking Pandora all over again

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Imagine being the embodied personification of someone's unconstrained evil impulses. Then imagine being shoved into a mind with a conscience that forces you down all the time and makes you feel bad for existing anytime you're able to successfully exert your will on your new body.

Good reference post

I'd read a spinoff mini-comic where this happens.

>FarScape reference

Augrah mentioning coming across a voice calling itself "Moya" during her mind projection into space would be a gentle shoutout that I could appreciate

I could accept this.

i'm down

imagine Aughra's confusion when she meets an Australian Aboriginal

>YA DO WATCHA TOLD, WHEN YA TOLD, GELFLING

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Why would she? The whole point is her traveling to OTHER worlds and experiencing them as the locals would. She would be fascinated by the spiritual lives of these alien worlds

>the only way I could accept it
I would trust the writers to do something creative and clever if they were going to do it

it's a joke

>WATCH IT GELFLING

TRIALLL BY STICKYYYYU

>tfw simon pegg

What's Gelfling sex like

this. it's crazy when you consider that S1 is the "good times" before it all goes to shit.

Hup vs Predator who wins

Better than skeksis sex

I don't follow this line of thinking at all. I understand it, but I disagree. I imagine it's more like having your vindictive, angry thoughts become a person and the good nature of you become a person. If rejoined, both those live on just as every person has good and evil in them. The Emperor is just a pussy that doesn't want to feel remorse. I can't equate an evil being fearing remorse as a genuinely terrible existence, because that's basically crying about having to have a sense of morality.

No it's a Yea Forums meme. It started of as pepe in a suit in a theater with someone saying he cute in the background. Then it evolve into fuck jannies.

I want Hup and Rian to team up and try to Save Deet from the Darkening and become Bros

what is the punchline?

Three Vagánias

Seladon did nothing wrong.

season two, the rebellion find secret room in underground layer where the most beautiful Gelfling girls from each of the seven tribe that are kept and train to become concubine and pleasure slaves for Skeksis from the time they were just babies. They have no ideas what's going on outside and they can't link with the other Gelfling because scientists had generically modify them.The hero must convince them to help and joined them because they still believe and look forward to become wives of their emperor and lords, and served them with the skill their master had train them. This is also we are introduced with the slave master, who run the place and is the one that train the girls.

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>I can't equate an evil being fearing remorse as a genuinely terrible existence, because that's basically crying about having to have a sense of morality.
If you think of the conscience and remorse as an internal punishment for evil actions or thoughts it makes sense. Of course if all your evil thoughts became personified to act completely unrestricted they would hate to be restricted and pushed down again by your conscience.

Age of Petulance was better.
youtube.com/watch?v=B7uEntGBubw

Should I watch an episode a night or binge it on the weekend?

So
Deet + Rian = Jen?
Brea + Rek’Yir = Kira?

I actually tought Deet was going to be Kira's mom before she got with Rian, who's clearly Jen's dad

Watch two episodes per night.

well boo fucking hoo, urSkeks have a conscience and I don't think that a skeksis suddenly doesn't exist because it gains a conscience (and whatever else is in the mystic's mind that makes them different)

Nice of you to join us on Yea Forums Steve

>ywn carry Deet around in a backpack like Yoda

>Deet will never be real

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>farscape
My nigga
SF shows should use puppets more

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People are generally good and generally feel bad for doing bad things. The skeksis merging with the mystics would essentially strip them of their free will while the good nature of the mystics would become the dominant personalities.

HAHKSEEKAAAAAAAAAH

you've got nothing to support that
in fact, the extended lore is that the urSkek were sent to Thra as punishment for being less harmonious than the rest of their species
I mean they got split because they were trying to purge their evil side so clearly it was a big factor for them

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youtube.com/watch?v=qUryY7oN7kg

>Deet meets skekTek.jpg

>skekTek bringing home the groceries

i'm gonna shill that user's cytube room again, the movie just started
/r/StuartLittle

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i wanna fuck a gelfing,we need more gelfing porn

Link?

I'm thinking either it's going to end up an alternate good ending timeline or it's going to reveal that there are still more gelflings alive in the future than Jen and Kira and they're hiding well.

it gets spam filtered even doing the [dot] trick
just google cytube, and then you can ctrl+f search crystal from the main page

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fucking kek

how many bloopers/behind the scenes of puppeteers messing around hilariously in character like youtube.com/watch?v=lzBHA7QxJEs do you think there are?

Reminder this exact individual went on to puppeteer the Hunter

Better yet is Han Solo.

They have a great opportunity to have a promotional vlog of Hup just wandering around New York or Los Angeles looking for spoons and interacting with people

a daring synthesis

maybe more...

I think the best thing to do for a second season is show all the gelflings getting fucked up, then timeskipping and redoing the movie for the last couple episodes. Alternately you could just show the two babies being taken into their respective care so that it would lead into the movie directly. A second season would be unavoidably brutal, though.

Any cool merch for this that isn't a figure? I'm already getting this Hunter figure for sure And probably the Hunter POP too

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Speaking of, why haven't the skeksis even attempted to reproduce in their entire time on Thra?

So just how sentient are Podlings? I mean they aren't total shit eating ape babies. I mean they make clothing, cook food, build homes, carve wood, make rope, etc. They've got the basics of civilization down that much is clear. But none other than Hup seem to have any more intelligence or awareness than your average five year old, And most seem to have an IQ somewhere around that of your average dog. How do they function? How do they not simply get eaten by feral Fizgigs? I mean I have to assume that the Gelflings don't do everything for them, despite seemingly having to bathe the podlings like children. The only thing I can think of is that there are certain "smart" podlings like Hup, who basically have to shoulder the burdens of their society mostly alone. Those few smart podlings would have to shepherd their potato brained kin around, skirting them around danger and making sure everyone has enough to eat. Like a lifelong sentence as a special needs teacher. Being a smart podling must be some kind of unique hell.

ThinkGeek/Gamestop seems to be doing statues for the original movie and a Fizzgig replica puppet for the expensive collectors market. Weta's putting out AOR statues and prop replicas in the spring.

Sterile. It was actually a plot point in early drafts that they couldn't reproduce and they were hoping the energy they could harness from the Great Conjunction could power up some magitech cloning project.

Watched the "making of" documentary and it seems the idea was for them to be very "earthy" if that makes sense
They're not infantile, but almost none are concerned with loftier ideals and ambitions like Hup. Really simple, basic creature comforts and living enjoyably, that's all they WANT
So they can build shelter, grow food, make whatever their booze is, and they leave it at that

For once OP is not a faggot

Ah okay thanks

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Fucking chamberlain is the worst of the lot to Tek though

im nit sure where but im sure i read somewhere that the podlongs are supouse to be some kind of sentient potatoes,im not kidding im sure i read podlings and potatoes on the same page

>some future dickbag has a bone to pick with the Gelflings
>goes through all this bullshit to awaken A Great and Ancient Evil
>unseals the tomb of the beast, and from it rises...
>an astronaut in a Mass Effect style combat space suit that crash landed on Thra in his UNSC escape pod thousands of years ago
>he's got cryosleep sickness, sees all the crazy monsters and shit, and just starts going ham with his assault rifle
>all the Gelflings just see him as a monstrous metal giant that casts death magic and explosions from his hands

And then Deet sucks his dick to calm him down, I don't know.

I think part of the split between Skeksis and Mystics is that the Skeksis got interesting flair and had real ambitions while the Mystics had no desire to bother anyone.

It's pretty obvious when you realize the Skeksis ended up ruling the Crystal Castle while the Mystics fucked off to some desert to be assumed as just a myth

In a grim and disgusting way, I kinda feel sorry for Chamberlain and Scientist. They absolutely could have kept the Essence racket going if they did shit their way and they definitely both know that. But none of that matters when they happen to be surrounded by druggie retards who just happen to be more powerful than them.

>We'd be like giants to them.
arent skeksis more or less the same height as a human?

they were designed AFTER potatoes, not WERE potatoes

That's... actually kind of cool. I mean it sounds like they were aiming for something like Tolkien style Hobbits. They're weird little gremlin hobbits stuck somewhere between a feral baby and an old shire farmer. They just want warm clothes, a cozy home, some good booze, and probably a potato brained Podling wife to cuddle up with by the fire.

That makes too much sense. Weird little potato people who eat dirt.

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i knew it had to do with potatoes

This scene is genuinely creepy when you realize the original cut of the Dark Crystal had the Skeksis speak in grunts and guttural noises then suddenly this fucking thing comes out of nowhere and speaks bare minimum English to try and lead the protags to their deaths

youtube.com/watch?v=yMmE53Uae3Q

>49.99USD for the crystal replica
>it's the shard (white/clear)
overpriced and not even the dark crystal
I wanted some useless merch too

even if he is an asshole,he makes some good points sometimes

At 1:30-1:35 it looks like he's hypnotizing Jen. I wonder if that's actually what they were going for or if I'm reading too much into the Jen puppet's lack of expression.

Lords, you truly are just and wise. It's clear you act only from a fear of death.

>>the Skeksis were good because for like a millennium they were.
>Skeksis are causing the darkening
>SkekSo knows they are causing the darkening, doesn't care
>The darkening is caused by the Skeksis draining the power of the Crystal like a bunch of leeches
>Banished the Arathim for not serving them
>Developed clan-based racism amongst the Gelfling to keep them unable to organize against them
>The aforementioned darkening is blighting the land, destroying agriculture and husbandry, Skeksis don't care, still demand tithes from farmers, taking heirlooms they don't even want just to make a point
>Exterminated most of the Gruenaks

Oh yeah, those Skeksis, so good.

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>No!
Jen and skekSo would have gotten along well

i though the same,so maybe yes,lets be real the original dark crystal was a lore and conceptual mess,i wouldnt be surprise if the chamberlain was supoused to have powers like that but them they didnt like it but they kept the scene

There were also the Podlings at the castle who served food and played that hardcore music. Podlings can definitely be trained like chimps, but honestly, they do have a culture and language, which makes them sentient. It's just that they're at the bottom of the food chain compared to the Gelflings and Skeksis.

Why is Rek'Yr so thirsty for Brea?

Weird, it never looked like hypnosis to me.

Skeksis were gonna go into space and become rulers of the universe. They literally did nothing wrong and Gelflings are just going to rot on their planet forever.

skeksis rule
gelfings drool

Judging from the marketing on social media, I thought the Fizzgigs were going to be way overused as comedic relief. Very glad that wasn't the case.

Explains why the Chamberlain has such a broken way of speaking.

The podlings were fine for what they were, the Vapra just wanted to make them more cultured, like the Vapra.

It was essentially the same as the British taking aboriginies to Britain and making them watch shakespeare in an attempt to make them behave more British.

Fizzgigs in general don't appear that much, which is pretty surprising in its own right

Oh yeah, him
Did SkekMal kill him or just know his ass out? It was unclear to me

Pretty sure he just knocked him out

Can someone give me mega or googledisk?

And to make it worse, Chamberlain fucking drank what was left of her, possibly denying her any chance of an afterlife.

In fact, they a make a big deal about the afterlife in this show. The Skeksis' whole motivation is their fear of oblivion after death.

Anyone have clips of Chamberlain in other languages doing his hhhmmmmMMMMMmmmm?

I initially thought that Hup was going to be the comic relief when he first showed up. Then turns out he's actually a total bro and one of the best characters.

You can hear the japanese chamberlain at the end of the Japanese trailer.
youtube.com/watch?v=eInKm1mt4to

I like podlings. Hup should have gotten Deet's pussy

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Did The Collector say she was infected or cursed with something that causes her sickness runny nose and growths?

The lesson of the movie is that the urSkeks were dumbasses for getting rid of their emotional half. The Skeksis clearly aren't entirely evil as otherwise that'd be stupid.

She said the mountain air irritates her pustul and it stopped leaking when she drank essence. I think it's just a symptom of her old age.

>tfw jim henson company dug itself out of the grave, producing unimaginable puppetkino in the process and possibly planting the seeds of puppetry's comeback as an artform

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I think more people would be receptive to the show if it were animated. I've recommended this show to many friends and some of them just can't get past the puppets.

>Dark Crystal in America
>Thunderbolt Fantasy in Japan
The cards are there. Puppetry comeback is almost there if they play them right.

Is this related to that old Dinosaur sitcom in any way?

same company

Didn't she say it was a curse of pursuing knowledge?

She was fucking with Brea to curb her curiosity.

Deet's wings are cute! CUTE!

Do I need to watch the 1982 movie to get this? New to this thing and yet to see the show, but it looks interesting.

>weta prop replicas
Yes please.

TASTY! TASTY!!

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Just watched the episode 4
Why did they have to linger on those awful cg shots for so long

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No. Its a prequel and all the characters are pretty much explained and established in the series.
Movie is still pretty good though.

Necrophilia. Yum.

I think having seen the movie increases the appreciation for it but, that's probably nostalgia talking. You're probably fine without it.

>over 500 replies

We did bros. We made it to autosage instead of being bumped off by SU waifu spam. Special thanks to Revision Autist for his contributions.

>Chiana
one of those awakening moments for me

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