Scooby Doo Return to Zombie Island thread

The movie dropped

Anyone who guessed that it would be a "no real zombies" was right, just a bunch of people in masks and costumes.

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what does this thread have to do with Steven Universe? This is a Steven Universe board after all

Also guess who's next

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>Sequel to movie where zombies are real
>Zombies aren't real
Goddamnit. Do they at least acknowledge that they were real in the original?

What a bullshit retcon

The rest if the gang believes that the zombies and cat people were real the first time

But Velma had the whole adventure under an Unsolved Mysteries section on her blog because she has her doubts

GHOUL SCHOOL SEQUEL WHEN?

NEVER, specifically if its going to be revealed that they were fucking cosplayers.

The real unsolved mystery to that is what the fuck happened to that girl who hung with Shaggy.

Because god forbid the Scooby-Doo world have any actual sense of mystery.

Can't wait for them to completely shit over Mystery Incorporated too. Just fuck this whole franchise up while they're at it.

Mystery Inc already fucked itself over with a reset-ending.

Doesn't Ghoul School end with a fucking kaijuu showing up?

Watch them retcon it further though with a combination of hallucinations, hypnosis, mass brainwashing, and holograms.

What's next? They prove the Boo Brothers are conmen?

You can't have magic in your movies if you're going to sell them in China.

Look at all the hoops they jumped through with the Detective Dee movies to have mythical creatures and curses, only to say "lol it's hypnotism and chemistry".

>The real unsolved mystery to that is what the fuck happened to that girl who hung with Shaggy.
Prison. Flim-Flam framed her for his crimes in this timeline.

A mini Godzilla in a tutu IIRC.

it's a direct-to-dvd movie you retarded fuck

And her father, whom you only see the foot of because he's full-size.

So what's the list of actual supernatural Scooby adventures that would need to be retconned to have a practical explanation?

>Scooby-Doo and the Witch's Ghost
>Scooby-Doo and the Alien Invaders
>Scooby-Doo and the Goblin King
>Scooby-Doo and the Samurai Sword

?

Scooby-Doo and the Curse of the 13th Ghost retconned the entire Scrappy era, not just 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo, into being a hallucination. So that wipes out Reluctant Werewolf, Boo Brothers, Ghoul School, and the episodes from the New Scooby and Scrappy-Doo Show that had real ghosts/monsters in them. (Fred, Velma and Daphne don't know who Scrappy is when he gets mentioned, indicating that he was never real)

Did it have any good twists?

I feel the peak of Scooby Doo Movie twists that won’t be topped anytime soon was Stage Freight at this point and Yea Forums‘s reaction was amazing
5 different fucking point were each the Phantom unknown of the other 4, fucking kek

Mystery Incorporated

>Scrappy got retconned
Woah, now that's fucking harsh.

MI retcons itself with the finale. So none of that show ever happened and the timeline looped back around to the beginning of Where Are You and started over.

How was Daphne characterized? That 13 Ghosts movie was the lowest I've ever seen the franchise.

Terrible visuals compared to the first, and an otherwise average story that is worse off for subverting the original.

>and the timeline looped back around to the beginning of Where Are You and started over.

That wasn’t what happened. It was a homage to the original. Remember that they still fought the OG monsters and have their memories of them. Plus, had they gotten a third season, they wanted to do a story arc about Miskatonic University.

Oh gee I wonder who these people are

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It was just an elaborate model. The whole school is just an academy for future horror movie actresses with the headmistress setting up a test for the girls to see if their acting skills are good enough to fool people. The witch was just a nut dressed in an outfit.

Standard Daphne

Apparently in the original Zombie Island movie she was just an intern at the TV station...

Wait do they retcon the original?

>Velma
Why is it always her!? For fuck's sakes, she was the one who figured everything out in the first movie despite it all being supernatural

Yes

no

>no
Elaborate

>Apparently in the original Zombie Island movie she was just an intern at the TV station...
That honestly just make me more pissed off than the Zombies being fake

>Anyone who guessed that it would be a "no real zombies" was right, just a bunch of people in masks and costumes.
Fuck these people, i hate the fake monsters shit in scooby doo

Velma claims the three cat monsters were the same three that are the villains this time and that the zombies were just swamp gas

>No Billy West as Shaggy
Dropped

I hated the moon one where they called out how she's the pretty girl and demonized the characterization by making her insecure that she's just the dumb hottest next to the brains of Velma. Fucking hate when characters from the past are drug through modern standards for shit like that.

How the fuck does that even make sense?
I swear to fucking god if their motive was exactly one of the fake motives the first movie had. i.e, Fred claiming it was just for pirate gold or something

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>it was just for pirate gold or something
user...

It doesn't, this time it's more obvious that she's full of shit

And since it seems to follow directly from the events of 13th ghost I would be willing to bet the monsters will get more and more real

Also simone's pendent shines a light to Morgan Moonscar's treasure when placed on the cat symbol on that moon dial thing

That... That makes no sense. She had her own show. She wasn't even filling in for someone; it was called "Coast to Coast With Daphne Blake".

It was her tv project while working as an intern

Nobody cares about that, it’s SU time.

DOG?!

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The live action Scooby Doo movies

Also purged by the Scrappy-Doo retcon.

Did they forget about Fred's job?

Nah, "the gang fights an eldritch abomination, Made in Heaven activates, and the universe gets a factory reset" isn't a valid explanation in NuDoo.

Yeah, Velma's kind of been acting like a know-it-all bitch lately

>Yeah, Velma's kind of been acting like a know-it-all bitch lately

I'll take that over the shrill, grouchy, passive-aggressive shrew that was Mystery Incorporated Velma.

>retconning the best SD movie
what does Warner Bros gain by ruining everything good they had?

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Wow, that fucking blows. This means that, if they ever bring back Reluctant Werewolf or Ghoul School, they’ll retcon them into being hallucinations or cosplayers. Fuck everything. You can have Scooby-Doo stuff where the supernatural shit is real and the other where it isn’t. Fuck this “everything is some guy in a costume” shit being forced on everything in this franchise.

into the fucking trash it goes. not canon.

We're in the late-nostalgia phase of the modern nostalgia-based capitalism. That is, they got tired of putting effort into their attempts at pandering, and are now falling back on their older mid- to late-2000s formulas assuming that they can still ride out on the nostalgia wave just by including references and callbacks.

They could easily turn it that way. They turned to a life of crime to pay for their ailing mother's bills. Makes them sympathetic.

I want to know how they plan on debunking Witch's Ghost and Alien Invaders.

The biggest mistake the franchise has been making in recent years is trying to make everything in the franchise canon to one timeline.

I just assumed each series was isolated from the rest, which it was supposed to be I guess, it makes no sense otherwise. Why are they trying to do this?

Someone dressed up as Dracula hypnotized Shaggy into thinking he was a werewolf. He doesn't even look like one when he supposedly changes. Hypnosis is also used on Cookie, Scooby, and Scrappy to make them think Shaggy looked like a werewolf. It was all just people in elaborate costumes having Wacky Races-esque race and they needed someone to be the werewolf.

Scrappy is a hallucination too.

>that the zombies were just swamp gas

That honestly sounds like Velma trying to come up with a ration explanation to something obviously supernatural.

At the end it's revealed everything was actually a dream by Shaggy, who's in a coma. This explains everything in the series, even the animation errors and the talking dog.

Sadly he exists, user.

I could honestly accept this premise, if at the end, a bat flies up to notSibella and tells her that she has not captured Sibella's look at all.

>He doesn't smug cunt Velma
That's some shit taste there friend

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you mean like how she says in thirteen ghosts asmodus was not real and they hint at the fact he was real.

velma is just mad that the supernatural stopped her from getting tim curry dick in witches ghost

If they're REALLY gonna commit to this "one Scooby timeline" thing then I want to see them explain away things like Laff-a-Lympics, Scooby's Arabian Nights and Cartoon Network City. THEY CAN'T ALL BE HALLUCINATIONS!

>Scooby-Doo is a real-ass, not talking version of a doberman that eats normal dog food and Velma, Daphne, and Freddy never existed.

no this time it's actually the case not just pathetic losers like you desperately doing damage control because you can't accept the truth

That bitch was always like that. Always solving crimes and shit like she’s the only one that can be a detective

because she's the logical one!

Who the fuck is in charge of these? Scooby was doing so well for the 2010's and this is a huge slap in the face. Who the hell is asking for this?

Those were just in-series TV shows made that Shaggy and Scooby-Doo were in as a temp job. All the animal guys like Yogi Bear were suit actors using the same kinds bad guys use that mask being a human. They were pretty popular with children, but not enough fame that the average adult is going to know them from the show.

Another Scooby movie, another thread of people who haven't and won't see the movie bitching about it. Sigh.

For those of you obsessed with whether or not the mysteries are "real" or not, all you need to know is that in this particular movie, the monsters weren't real, but there's no proof the original Zombie Island happenings were fake.

Velma tries to convince herself it was because of swamp gas and something else I don't remember, but Daphne and Fred just side eye her and tell eachother "I think we're better off letting her have this one" or something, obviously not buying her explanation.

About the actual movie: it's okay, I guess. Kind of boring. The idea is funny but I was kind of hoping we'd get something actually supernatural to contrast the 13 Ghosts movie. Whatever the execs at WB think they're doing, they need to stop. They get good writers to write boring schlock.

I'm the first to defend these new movies for not being supernatural. Scooby has been about unmasking old creeps looking for money longer than it's been about muh real supernatural entities. It's not necessarily the wrong call to make your 50th anniversary movie true to the roots of the franchise and make it once again about unmasking creeps. But MAN, what a boring fucking movie in that regard. Couldn't we get something grander? Like, make the gang travel back in time and have to solve their old mysteries, but actually it's a gigantic setup with virtual reality or something. This just screams cashgrab.

Overall, the 50th anniversary so far has been really disappointing. Boring movies, boring cartoon, boring merch. Wake me up when Scooby gets some life breathed into it.

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All my dreams and hopes and folder destroyed.

>be cool is unironically the best SD may have ever been
>no one fucking watched it
The fans deserve this desu

Yikes.

Nah, fuck you m8.
Zombie Island was special because they were real monsters, that was the whole point.
These new movies are shit, and so was your little pitch there.

Personally, I kind of like this. Personally, I think they were pulling the "WOAHHHHH THIS TIME THE MONSTERS ARE REAL!!!!!!!!! THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE!!!!" card way too many times.

>Witch's Ghost
Ravenscroft stages a highly elaborate and flashy stunt with assistance of the Hex Girls to fake his death so he can live without the agitating life of being hounded by fans for his stories. He still is a novelist with a modest but not insane following and is much happier, meanwhile the town gets a boost from the witch and evil novelist schtick and Hex Girls got paid handsomely for their part.

This gets unveiled when Ravenscroft's ex tries exposing him when she finds out he isn't dead and tries outing him publically through an equally crazy stunt.

Blah blah blah blah blah no one is going to read all that shit loser

And for the record one of them was in fact real

>I'm the first to defend these new movies for not being supernatural. Scooby has been about unmasking old creeps looking for money longer than it's been about muh real supernatural entities.

I honestly get what you're saying but the whole point of Zombie Island was that the monsters were real this time around. Thats what made so memorable.

Scooby Doo should be about people being unmasked though, I'll give you that.

>go back to beloved parts of the Doo franchise
>shit all over it
not based

it just seems so counter productive, didn't the samurai movie give her karate as a personality? Why can't they give her an interest in reporting like in the zombie island movie

>be cool is unironically the best SD may have ever been
This, but unironically. Loved Fred's character arc in this show.

I liked the Mystery Inc. take where some truly ridiculous stuff like flying chi wizards we're just guys with masks and jetpacks, but there was an undercurrent of actual paranormal activity going on in town

That show has the best balance between "crooks in masks" and "the monsters are real"

Not him, but what really sold Zombie Island for me was that it felt that the gang was in actual danger. You could recapture that same sense of mortal peril with fake-monsters too if the writers were so inclined.
Zombie Island also had a great atmosphere with the way it was drawn, but I do not know if you could recapture that with today's animation techniques.

Things like Ghoul School and Reluctant Werewolf can be brought back if you get creative.

Like, what if its implied that when a human stops being a werewolf, they can scarcely remember their time as a werewolf, only as a vague dream?

They were adults in Zombie Island, reuniting after separating for years. Velma even owned her own book store and flirts with Bow who is also clearly an adult. There is no way this is a "sequel" if they are ignoring these things. It's more of a re-imagining with callbacks to the original.

>I do not know if you could recapture that with today's animation techniques.
The "outsource to Japan" technique is still readily available. Not doing so is just one of a litany of misguided decisions with this movie.

>He doesn’t like the objectively best version of Velma
Shame on you

>You could recapture that same sense of mortal peril with fake-monsters too if the writers were so inclined.

Has Scooby Doo ever explored this? I can imagine a scenario where the gang unmasks a crook, only to reveal that he can be a really vicious fucker when he wants to, especially when there is gold at the bottom of the river.

I meant hand-drawn vs. digitally drawn animation. Japan switched to digital like everyone else in the early 2000s. Compare how Dragon Ball Super looks compared to the pre-2000 DB shows. Or the Sailor Moon reboot vs. the original. Or any number of other anime. I just miss the hand-drawn aesthetic is all. There's something about it that digital animation just can't replicate from what I've seen.

The closest I would say is Camp Scare since the writer was going for a slasher movie theme where he's swinging an axe at their heads every scene. I wish the next series would be in a 1-hour format so that there could be time for jokes AND an actual mystery.

>I meant hand-drawn vs. digitally drawn animation.

Anime is still mostly hand-drawn, but I get what you mean. I think what you miss is the warmth of real light interacting with physical cels and paints. They can still pull off that look, just have to pay for it.

grant morrison scooby when?

I'm with you there, user. It deserves more than it got. Still waiting for a public 1080p upload of it somewhere so I can actually get people to watch it.

I'm going to assume you just don't know and aren't being intentionally obtuse. For almost the entirety of the 80s, the monsters were real. Ghoul School, Reluctant Werewolf, 13 Ghosts, almost the entire Scrappy era. It became the norm at that point for the monsters to be real and supernatural elements were commonplace. The monsters being real is not what makes Zombie Island or 13 Ghosts special, especially not during the time period it came out in. Just because you didn't watch the Scrappy era, whether you're too young or you just couldn't stomach it, doesn't mean that it didn't happen. To YOU personally, sure, Zombie Island was special and unique among the franchise. You very likely grew up on Where Are You and Pup reruns before seeing Zombie Island. But that's not reality, that's just your own personal experience. The monsters being real is not what made Zombie Island special.

What made Zombie Island special is it was good. They were adults and the stakes were higher. It wasn't just good for Scooby standards, it was actually good. It's funny, well-written, gorgeously animated with a great cast and wonderful characterization. The following three DTVs were also just as good, if not better. And this is after we had to survive the Scrappy era.

I just want people on here to understand that the new movies being boring is infinitely more offensive than the monsters not being real. You're misunderstanding what made 13 Ghosts and Zombie Island so special by focusing on that.

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for me when i was young it was the photographer chick from the alien movie

I have an important question: how big are Velma's tits in this?

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Same as usual.

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>What made Zombie Island special is it was good.
^This.
It was tightly written, clever, and looked great. When I watched it the first time, I didn't think "this is new" so much as "they're taking the Scooby Doo property seriously now."

Actually, the first Scooby movie to give me this feeling was Alien Invaders. That movie was like a practice run for Zombie Island.

ZI came first.

>Scooby-Doo and the Curse of the 13th Ghost retconned the entire Scrappy era, not just 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo, into being a hallucination.

It didn't exactly, Velma advanced the theory that "13 Ghosts" was all a hallucination but none of the other characters seemed to take her seriously.

Basically there seems to be some kind of edict from the higher-ups at WB that they must provide some explanation for why ghosts aren't real, but the writers don't want to actually come out and say ghosts aren't real because that would be stupid.

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I think they should leave Ghoul School alone. As much as I like the girls, they dont really fit in with Scooby Doo.

This, it went Zombie Island, Witch's Ghost, Alien Invaders, Cyber Chase, then everything else I don't remember because I stopped watching after Cyber Chase.

If this is an attempt to farm my outrage, it's working.

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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I watched them out of order, but Alien Invaders was what brought me back into Scooby Doo movies.

Before that, the only SD stuff I liked was a Pup named Scooby Doo, and Zombie Island felt like an extension of the personalities they established in Pup.

reeeeee

Is the movie online anywhere yet? I need more Daphne screencaps for my folder of her.

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The kims, probably almost any other decent site, probably a mega somewhere

>literally one of the worst SD movies
i hope the cheerleader is in it at least

i liked it better when the timeline just rebooted itself like in mystery inc.

ESTO ES EL FIN, JIREN!

youtube.com/watch?v=18ZIb5k90l4
This song wasn't supposed to be a guideline.

Wait did they retcon the Sea Monster in a later movie? Because that movie ended with a dead giant sea monster.

and then they ended it with
>lol, scooby is part of an ancient alien race and that's why he can talk
what the hell were they smoking

I've written a Scooby Doo movie where the magic shit in Zombie Island looks like a kindergarten show. I have some ex-WB talents and VAs looking at it but nothing major.

It's never getting made outside of maybe a comic or some shit years from now for a variety of reasons, not the least of which being that there's real ghosts in it.

>what the hell were they smoking
I want some

nobody else?

At least they haven't turn anyone of the gang into an LGBT character...yet.

Who wouldn't be mad?
youtube.com/watch?v=4VOsfbaddsM

Studios need to stop pandering to China, but sadly its a market that'll lick the shit right off the plate no matter how rancid

I'm surprised that in all these years, they never brought back a grown up Red Herring.

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I love red herring, his name became so damn funny once i became an adult and got the joke.

All this people whining because "Muh monsters aren't real"
Grow dammit Scooby Doo was never meant to have supernatural things.
Do you want a similar format but with real supernatural elements?
Then watch show like Supernatural, Grimm, Buffy the vampire slayer and similar stuff.

No nigger, people dont like that their retconning previous movies that did have real monsters.

James Gunn?

Gay. In the OG movie they really WERE zombies!!!

Why do you even care?
Why did you even watched them in the first place?
It's your nostalgia that makes you angry not the movie.

the thing i liked about the real movie was the fantasy aspect of it.
now it seems that they're trying to strip it of that aspect and bring it to reality.
what's the endgame here?

And? i dont see how thats a bad thing. Just admit you have no taste and leave.

l'm not anyone anyone on Yea Forums knows, I know gunn had an idea for one but tbqh I actually don't even keep up with the actual Scooby Doo IP too much (probably cause I have a really bad tendency to get anxiety that things'll come out that are too similar to what I've already written)

Just admit that you're just a whining nostalfag and stop complaning about how things change.

what i dont get is why the creeper and space kook are in this movie?

Mexfag here. For the dub he was only named as The Red Haired Kid, or The Ginger Kid so it took me years to know about the Red Herring concept.

Popularity

Tell us your work.
It's not going to come out so why don't you share it with us?

>People aren't allowed to criticize movies because i say so
go back.

So whining is the new critique fashion?

Only if you increase the scope of whining to "people saying things I don't agree with"

Its easy to dismiss all criticism when you call it all whining.

Ah yes, I remember the times before Scooby Doo had real monsters. Yep, 1969 to 1971 before the Scooby Doo celebrity movies had them meet the Addams family and a literal genie. And later real ghosts when Scrappy Doo showed up. Shame what's happened to it now.

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Creeper is like the Green Hill Zone of Scooby Doo.

I don't care enough to watch the movie, so I don't care enouvh to get mad at it. People will still remember the original Zombie Island. People don't even know about Scooby-Doo films post Phantosaur and Camp Scard.

Was phantomsaur good? I never watched that one.

What do you think made the creeper so much more iconic than other scooby villains?

I'd argue the chained Phantoms and Captain Cutler

ELVIRA!!!

The one from where this came out.
youtu.be/ltn7yrEGdhI

we were getting some real scoob kino for a while. But these past few years have been lukewarm.

And the meme
youtu.be/7h9V0nDT9XU

The brand has never really recovered from that meme since

This and Curse of the 13th ghost seems to be shaping up a trilogy of some sort, y'know with the sherif and the supposed supernatural items.

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Did anyone notice when they all group hugged shag and scoob, Velma lingered on scaggy for a while?

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oh and the mystery machine.

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It's set in Scooby-Doo's original airing year of 1969, none of that gay "just put them into the current year" shit.
It adds a one-off character to the main Gang, and the story of the film is arguably more tied to this character and the supporting characters than to Scooby and the Gang themselves. This character (and the surrounding supporting characters) are designed only to be in this story.
It has some elements of a musical in it despite the fact that it's not actually a musical.
The main paranormal entity in it is a type of creature/ghost that has never been used in a Scooby Doo plotline before, despite being a pretty big staple of horror in the culture its taken from. There's been a direct-to-DVD Scooby movie based around that culture, but it didn't feature that particular entity.

It has it's charm I kinda like it.
Let's admit it Shaggy has some phisical prowess to survive all the shit and Scooby had been through.

Lovecraftian stuff?

Why is china so afraid of skellingtons?

>Scooby Doo and the Crazy Ex

Wouldn't even need anything supernatural to make it work

>retcon the best Scooby mini-series.
>shortly after retcon the best movie.
Who the fuck has it out for the previous iterations?

Because it's a cheap attempt at nostalgia bait only to poorly subvert the twist of the original.

They went back to the roots of Scooby Doo.

Don't even fucking joke, the OK KO special is the best result we could ever hope to get.

Heresy

>Shameless remakes and retcons are "going back to the roots".

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I rather have them all retconed and made LGBT extravaganza than say that the OK KO was a good episode.

Be careful what you wish for user.

Nope

Well you already have have Sibella being likely a lesbian being a woman vampire whose voice actress has a female "life partner".

The fuck, is this Shaggy’s tumblr?

They made Sibella gay? What?

>It adds a one-off character to the main Gang, and the story of the film is arguably more tied to this character and the supporting characters than to Scooby and the Gang themselves.

This is why it won't be made. Nobody cares about the extra characters, heck nobody cares about Scrappy and Flim-Flam. It needs to be about the Gang.

Swap gas you say.
youtube.com/watch?v=QEy6vyGu7Zo

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All this movie accomplishes is showing Velma being a bitch.

I care about Hot Dog Water

>Has Scooby Doo ever explored this? I can imagine a scenario where the gang unmasks a crook, only to reveal that he can be a really vicious fucker when he wants to
I don't know I get the feeling that if anyone was willing to actually kill for the money they wouldn't be dressing as ghost in the first place.

This. There was never any definitive canon, it was always just whatever the writers felt like, hence why ages and origins would always change.

Alien Invaders sequel when?

They sort of did. MI had an episode where the football team at the school the gang goes to had a teammate who had red hair. Whether he was meant to be that universe's Red is up for debate, but it's likely.

Okay I hate the ruining classic movie thing and Velma is a bitch but if you ignore that it was pretty funny. They even had an Alan Smithee joke.

Alien invader sequel when?

Hopefully once they move on from the "Velma tries to retroactively ruin the best scooby things" kick

Hmm, my dad told me that a new scooby doo came out but he didn't say it was a new zombie island movie.
Kinda scared to watch it, the first one is one of my favorite movies of all time, so I dont want them to butcher it for me.

No they didn't. He's just saying her VA is a lesbian.

the songs where so good in the movies youtube.com/watch?v=GkNask_pMKo

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>be cool is unironically the best SD may have ever been
true, velma, daphne and freds antics were very funny. scooby and shaggys ruse are extra funny in this ones

whats your favorite episodes? mines The People vs. Fred Jones

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navajo folklore

But he tore off one of their heads! This isn't professor layton where you can blame actors and a gas leak.

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That's not what a reset or a retcon means, dum dum! Things happened and fhey changed reality to a new, less insane one. The events still happened even if they did not happen any longer from a dimensional standpoint.

That's like saying Back to the Future retcons itself.

I hope one movie she gets a denial epileptic fit and for the whole movie she must accept absurd supernatural events or she will start foaming at the mouth.

This. Those movies were good, you shouldn't go back to them unless you are going to make it as or better.

Not by name but they discover that the reason everyone is insane and abusive in the world is because of an extradimensional entity has been influencing people, particularly their town. This is why so many are dressing up like monsters to commit crimes.

They better go right back to catgirls with big paws-n-claws...but their mouths were jacked up. Too human. Give 'em muzzles.

>What made Zombie Island special is it was good. They were adults and the stakes were higher. It wasn't just good for Scooby standards, it was actually good. It's funny, well-written, gorgeously animated with a great cast and wonderful characterization. The following three DTVs were also just as good, if not better. And this is after we had to survive the Scrappy era.
I think that's my biggest problem with the new movies. It's just the same handful of self-aware jokes over and over again, now with a side of member berries.

>Has Scooby Doo ever explored this?
they kinda do in a lot of the more recent stuff these days as they often have the bad guys using robots or power armor or some other sort of high technology in their plots that means even if the "monster" is fake it's still something that could easily eviscerate them or crush their skulls like overripe fruit, hence why the gang doesn't just try and jump them and beat the shit out of them or something like they otherwise should default to after the fifth or so time the monster turns out to be some schmuck in a mask

>HEY WHAT IF THAT GANG KEPT POINTING OUT HOW SHADY EVERYTHING IS BUT THEY WERE TRYING TO AVOID SOLVING THE MYSTERY
>WHAT IF WE KEPT USING THAT SAME JOKE EVERY FIVE MINUTES
>IS IT FUNNY YET?!

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would scooby doo be interesting if they switch from fake monsters to real monsters episode to episode? Or movies?

How would you retcon Zombie Island? They were clearly supernatural entities and they even ripped the heads off of one of them.

They only said that it wasn't supernatural to keep Velma from having an autistic fit.

Why? Fucking why do they rape our childhood? FUCK WARNER.

No, it would become just as boring and predictable as it is currently.

You just wanna fuck the alien do-...wait...yes, sequel please.

They'd just make it so she was never actually an alien.

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The Kiss movie was the only one she accepted it

What if they were people dressed as zombies in the original who just happened to be next to the cat people

Neat i hope we see shaggy's gf again

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Unironically can't pick one. Season two may have been a slight step down, but I loved every single episode.