Concerts then vs now

hey look it's a phone filming a bunch of people filming on their phones, how cool

its so they can remember it and look back on when theyre old and bitter like youve become.

I'm sweet like chocolate boy

What you mean?

youtube.com/watch?v=EORH8Nx6FHU

Yeah, the smartphone is literally the worst thing that ever happened since the world war 2

image conscious dopamine addicts stuck in the panopticon with very little appreciation of the present

Don't you think the realization they will have when they look back at all the things they recorded videos of for social media will just lead them to the realization that they spent all their "good times" recording shit with their phones instead of actually experiencing the "good times?"

Didn't zoomers literally just kill themselves moshing at a Travis Scott concert

you give these cretins too much credit. they know no other reality, we're primitive cavemen to them what with our attention to the moment and use of memory over video evidence that supplanted said memory.

I think about how much more I’d cherish music if I had to search for copies and make money to buy them a lot. The internet makes things a lot more convenient and I’m very thankful for that but at the same time it diminishes how special music can be to some extent.

the answer is to not constantly feed the monkey with new music. sit on a couple albums/mixes for a while. go back and revisit others you didn't fully absorb. space it out, artificially restrict the supply. you'll appreciate it all much more.

Even just going through the effort of downloading an album instead of just streaming it makes it seem so much more valuable to me.

thats what i do. i download everything i listen to. make playlists that fit on 80 minute CDs. deep dive a few artists a year. replenish every other month. dumping endless shit into your head is like binging on coke for an entire week, it takes the piss out of the whole endeavor. these kids can learn a couple easy lessons from the oldfags.

20 000 cameramen doesn't make for an interesting crowd

tfw in my state all that shit gone in a week. now starting to buy tix already. feels good

People could smoke, drink and do ecstasy. Now it's a formal event where nigger cattle are told to behave in a crowd and pay for the luxury.

you've just got to go to the right concerts. The large ones I think are doomed, people don't want to dance (or are all in seats), and everyone is on their phones. Just go to the smaller shows in smaller venues. Cheaper tickets, and actual crowd interaction/dancing/moshing whatever. More hardcore the better.

true. and vip areas killed it.
was better when it was all unreserved GA and if you turned up early you got to the front. also tix prices used to be much cheaper when music wasnt free so more "fans" could go.
teenager me could buy concert tix of a few hours work
teenager now its a whole days/weeks wage if they even have a job

go to your local hardcore show, people still pull up, barely any phones, crowdkillers, stage dives, people rush the stage, $10

Who the hell brings their phone to a concert full of 20k people? Great way to get it lost/stomped into the mud/stolen.

Went to see Tool a couple weeks ago, they were really cracking down on no phones and basically every person in the venue was really into it, best energy I've seen at a concert in the past 10 years. You need to see bands that aren't FOTM hipster shit

>You need to see bands that aren't FOTM hipster shit
yeah nobody needs corporate plant of the month telling them that they have to mask up and they must leave the concert if they voted for Trump

the acts you saw got old and security at events of those acts somehow got better
you either need to venture into currently hyped acts or look for concert footage at 3rd world countries where they still sherish old acts if you want to see something similar to those old concerts
cameras, phones and most likely future recording and social sharing technology has little impact on it, at the end, it's always the people

>that girl crowdsurfing in a mini skirt
how many fingers were probably jammed into her vagina?

Legal weed

No one looks at old and shit quality videos from concerts. It’s just to appear cool on social media.

adding to that, the average ticket price of big ass events and festivals kinda ensure only entitled kids and whatever the current equivalent of a yuppy is go to them
tl;dr, corporations are to blame

Saw Placebo last werk and they had everyone put their phone in a bag that was only unlocked when you exited the venue. I think that’s a good way to go for bigger acts/venues. Still, I prefer going to smaller venues as the crowd is mostly people who are there for the actual music.

I’m a big Tool fan but I’m kind of over it at this point. I’ve seen them five times since 2010. The last time I saw them was in Sacramento in January and it was just a bunch of drunk faggots and neckbeards who seemed more interested in talking and eating nachos, respectively. So many people just sitting down…didn’t feel like a rock concert at all.

I love their music but I’m never giving them a single dollar. The whole thing is so fake now

People say smartphones, but honestly, the shows I've been to that had a "no phones" policy have been as much of a snorefest than regular ones.
I'm starting to think those policies are to protect higher ups and we've been fooled to think it's some sort of anti-rock thing.

big concerts back then were 99.9% white, so you didn't have to worry about being stabbed or shot.

no those were illegal goblinos

festivals are still 99.9% white tho

nah more like 99.8% that .1% changes everything.

maybe the lineup, but the attendance is still 99.9% white
you really think minorities can afford current day ticket prices? event has to be practically free to have them in attendance

NOOOO YOU CAN'T PROVE THE CONTRARY, MUSIC IS UNIRONICALLY OVER

>you really think minorities can afford current day ticket prices?
The shows with $400 tickets are dadrock acts who haven't been good live in 25 years and corporate industry plants you wouldn't want to see anyway.

that's the point, corporatism is what's killing big event moods, not white peeps nor minorities

Saw them in Minnesota, everyone was standing up and rocking out. Only annoying thing was the le tool is enlightening guy jibber jabbing next to me to someone non stop before they came on, and then he didn't even know The Grudge lel

I was thinking the other day how when I was a kid in the 90s, I would just listen to a CD for entertainment sometimes. Like I would put in a CD and just sit there listening to music and that was enough to entertain me. and that was in the fucking 90s. I can't imagine what it was like in the 80s or 70s.

In the 70s you would listen to a vinyl LP and as they cost $7 a piece you only had a couple of them you'd learn to love and listen to over and over.

>you'd learn to love and listen to over and over.
shit, I still did that in the 90s sometimes. $12 for a CD hope its good. I would kind of force myself to listen to the shit songs and hopefully like them. Now days I can just skip ahead on slow songs to see if they get better and skip them if they don't. All for free of course on steaming.

youtu.be/30k-KgCMdzM
too bad you weren't here

The reason why crowds don't look like that anymore is because we currently have no greats. No, truly HUGE crowd pullers. We have big crowd pullers, like The Weeknd, BTS, Taylor Swift and Justn Bieber. However, we don't have HUGE crowd pullers like Queen, Michael Jackson, Pink Floyd and Metallica.

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I miss the feeling of touching and holding a piece of media. A movie, an album, whatever it be. Looking at the cover and admiring it. Looking through the little magazine inside of it and reading through the song lyrics. Placing it on the shelf and catogorizing it along with the other albums. Feeling proud and happy that you own that special album. And don't forget the trip to the store in order to scout for the album, finding it, and then buying it. And that satisfying feeling on the way home.
Bonus: It's a warm summer day.

Literally what happened to music in general in the early 20th-century when they invented audio recording technology. You used to go a concert hall and be blown away by an orchestra, now you can listen to the same piece of music a million times and it doesn't have the same effect. Slowly but surely music is losing its magical aura.

it's hard to lose yourself and have fun in a panopticon

>Saw Placebo last week
damn i'm getting old, I went to a festival in 1996 in the UK where they performed just before Prodigy and Bowie.
I didn't see them as i'd only just finished setting up tent in time for bowie as many others were, you can see in parts of the vid the crowd is pretty empty, think they were the second act on the main stage of the first day of the festival so most were still putting tents up kek

youtu.be/xVlNXGaG_1w?t=1702

Smartphones and just technology that allows you to capture it in general. Back then it was a one time experience that few only ever bothered to capture say on tape or on film, right now everything is available and accessible. But imo thats a blessing, through the internet are the bootleg communities of these old artists able to thrive and document everything from back then, which given its scarcity makes it all the more special.

This. There are certain bands that I will just watch on YouTube. I just watched Taylor Hawkins last show in pro-shot footage with great sound. Where as back in the day "you HAD to be there dude!"

It takes away the exclusive experience of concerts though.