Science vs Magic

which is stronger?

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Magic is super-science

Scmagience

Magic, science is for nerds.

magic
a lot of science relies on bullshit of trusting that an unknown variable will somehow magically go in your favor

magic relies on will power, which is basically unlimited

Magic because science has to play by the rules.

Magitek
Prove me wrong, fuckers.

Thats literally just magic. The "science" in that is just an afterthought.

>Magic
>Imbued with tecnology
50/50 in this but...
>answer in less than 1 minute
You scared me.

What does "technology" have to offer to magic that magic can't do for itself?

Magic is just Science that retards can't comprehend because they are stupid.

The device you're reading this thread on would literally be magic to someone born 200 years ago.

It's pretty much two sides of the same coin. Doctor Sivana managed to do A LOT of bullshit things with science that border on magic. Artificial Time, anyone?

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Neon lights and the ability to stream on Twitch

science wins

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Applied metaphysics. "Magic" is just insufficiently analyzed physics. If you've figured out the universe, science is done. Gods operate on the level of ultimate understanding, which is a component of ultimate power.

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god damn it I love this man

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Yeah its a fucking shame that he doesn't have pull in DC, especially these days. Lately he's just been a magic lightning powered asshole flunky to Mister Mind. I guess Dan Didio only wants one bald genius

Who is this guy? I'm a turbo nerd, and even I feel an urge to shove him into a locker.

>With just a knife Sivana brings the gods to their knees.

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I mean, magic is science. Magic is a fundamental force of nature in DC/Marvel, and spells are technology used to reliably reproduce specific effects.

It fucking bothers me how modern Sivana barely does any kind of science (he barely does anything at all but that's a different problem) and just straight up goes with regular magic, lightning powers and all, last Shazam issue had him about to throw down against fucking Black Adam.
Old Sivana was such a fucking genius that he could cheat his way around magic without actually using magic, he was a man of science first and foremost.

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You can explain how a computer works to a literal child
Someone not comprehending something doesn't mean they are stupid, it means they don't have the right context

That's a real dumb sentiment--the only way you could convince someone that a computer is magic is if you didn't actually explain what a computer was