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>Pink hurting such a pure sweetheart

Just when you think Pink couldn't get worse

This is a good shot.

THIS PISSED ME OFF

I mean, it seems like the diamonds didn’t touch pinks shit. Probably just went to her armory and took one of the planet killers.

World's worst video call ever made.

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those first few seconds would make for a great loop

>tfw you spent like a whole year trying to kill the crystal gems and blow up the earth before inevitably getting steven'd and one random ass court jester from literal millennia in the past gets closer than you ever did in nearly an instant with five minutes of prep time

this is more bad writing than impressive

How many times does it have to be said before people just admit already that
PINK
WAS
EVIL

oh no no, don't get me wrong, i'm absolutely calling out bad writing. they brought out two fucking superweapons that are nigh-impossible to stop despite being in seemingly high supply with zero explanation for why they've never been SEEN, let alone USED, before in the whole series.

the whole "oh i'm white diamond i can't spread myself too thin" has lost all its weight as a sentence. just scythe the fuckers. "i hate that planet. i want that planet to die" then use a fucking planet murder poison weapon instead of waiting for a cluster that might not even have the expected result.

Honestly at this point even PEARL is tired of Pink's bullshit.

Um sweaties Lilly Orchard already canceled Steven Universe, you can stop talking about it now

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so is she a tranny or something, because it's clearly a dude's voice

Just like in my Futuramas.

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He’s a SUcritical tranny. Avoid at all costs.

>The only reason she left was because of Steven's message
>There's an AU where Steven doesn't do a broadcast and Spinel stands still until the heat death of the universe

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SHE WALKS AWAY WITH A FUCKING SMILE

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What did you expect, Pink's a cunt.

no
stop

Seeing a lot of bad takes on Yea Forums, but what else is new. The Diamonds never wanted the Earth destroyed, they just nuked the planet to get revenge on the Crystal Gems and forgot about it until the cluster experiment was given the greenlight.

It's never stated that the Diamonds wanted Earth destroyed for the sake of it being destroyed, they just wanted to get some utility out of it. I assume Yellow figured she'd could be slick and have the cluster destroy the Earth in the process, but it was never an important objective to have it outright destroyed.

And anyway, Spinel just wanted to poison the planet, not have it explode.

>I'm playing the game right, aren't I?
>This is what she told me to do.

What does that mean?

Anyone got the full clip of when Spinel does her finishing move on the gems? Where she swings around the lighthouse with the closeup on her spinning the scythe around before the final OHKO

Thats makes me seethe even harder

Just realized this. Damn. Poor Spinel.

remember the enormous fucking "you clod" moment?? where right before that yellow said she didn't give a fuck about resources or life or any bullshit, she just wanted the planet to die?

>literally "i don't care about potential and resources, i want that planet to die"

>that's it
>that's literally the entire villain's story
>a whole 90 minutes and these 3 webms sum it up in 75 seconds

is rebecca sucrose retarded?

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I just noticed it now. Holy shit what a sociopath.

No but you are.

brutal

>>that's it
>>that's literally the entire villain's story
Somebody post the webm of Hitler not getting into art school.

Tumblrettes who think Rebecca Sugar is a fascist sympathizer because she didn’t write Steven killing the Diamonds with Bismuth

When I see the way you act
Wondering when I'm coming back
I could do about anything
I could even learn how to love like you

hey fags, is there a link to the movie yet?

based

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LOTSO BACKSTORY
LOTSO BACKSTORY

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Now I gotta listen to that again.

bros
youtube.com/watch?v=pozDLjFUVbM

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Toy Story Jessie, too

don't worry it's all just a game spinel

6000 years really does make it so much worse, though

God the avatar is so fuckable but the man so repulsive.

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This proves that Pink is more evil than White.

sociopaths are more dangerous than psychopaths

So pink diamond is a shit character and a shit leader as well. She got away with ALL of it.

It's not a fun game...

No, she's a good character. She's just a shit person.

I just wanted to play...

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This should be the new
>shadman

>that look of doubt that slowy grows in her eyes
You can just hear her thinking,
"A-am I winning? Did I win?"

Someone should crop Jasper in the crystal so it would seem like Jasperfags waiting Jasper to return.

Da good stuff
>The Diamonds fawning over Steven and their song gave me a boner
>Spinel is cute and her smile must be protected at all costs
>Pink continues to be Steven's worst enemy by being the biggest cunt in the universe
>Steg Double-Dick Gigachad Murdercock Universe
>Pearl
>Fights were pretty cool
Da bad stuff
>Talk no Justu remains the ultimate technique for solving the problems of the series
>Garnet
>Not enough of teen Steven suffering
>No based Kevin

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It's gonna be okay

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She's fucking cringing ar her own actions. This is why calarts must always be supported instead of subtle realistic human expressions to avoid retarded interpretations like this

I wanna fuck her clussy

>Jasper
Who?

I found it strange that no one realized what this was. I mean, it's obviously her shoe stuck in undergrowth and I realized that she was basically abandoned. Did anyone else notice that?

Did Lapis, Bismuth, and Peridot fuse or were they comic relief?

It's funny because he looks like a greasy haired, barrel chested, acne covered macho ma'am in real life.

So one of the overarching messages of SU is that Pink is a monster, right?

I hope her suffering ends soon.

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>to be fair under trump the department of defense
its alot of people trumps a fucking moron and his involvement in anything makes it worse but its not just him when it come to the departments

supporting relief only. not too many gags with them but no fusion either

Yes, and Greg keeps getting more based by virtue of putting her down for good.

Greg knew exactly what he had to do.

So Pink sets Spinel up for failure, and then saves him as Steven.

Slightly miffed.

saving this one

What's the news on Season 6?

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If he'd been allowed to work the 'ol Universe charm at Garnet's big gay wedding, the whole Gempire would have been brought down by one man and his dick.

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KEK

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Yeah I'm thinking it's time to get that pink diamond out of Steven. Lest she take him over after he does all the hard work

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>I've come to make an announcement.

>caring what a pedo tranny thinks

ROSE/PINKCELS OUT

bruh

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Was he good looking before he transform?

>impracticable armor with cleavage
into
trash
goes

If SU isn't sufficiently faggy for someone you can be certain you can can contract AIDS by walking by them

Since this movie was a timeskip S6 will return to 10-year old Steven.

Literally who is this?

>We will know Spinel is alone for the entirety Season 6
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

The Diamonds were terrible as well, since their mere existence trivialized the stakes. All Steven had to do was not be retarded and call them directly and the movie would've been over after the first fight.

Still, I liked that Spinel got a happy ending with them. She's by far more sympathetic than anyone else in the show so it's one of the few times Talk no Jutsu felt justified.

Top 10 Anime Betrayals

her and rex dangervest would get along

Blue took time to visit Earth and visit the Zoo on multiple occasions because it was "all they had left of Pink", yet doesn't go to the place Pink used to play and presumably have many happy memories?

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bros should I go full dive in and make an animatic that puts spinels life into this song? I don't wanna make it and have no one like it. The lyrics match too well its inspiring

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Could be like when a person’s child dies. You want to leave their bedroom and playthings intact.

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I thought Pink was a cunt before, but she's more fucking monstrous than I realized. Sentenced the companion who loved her unconditionally to solitary confinement for millennia for the crime of being a little annoying, then walked away with a smile. She's downright unfappable now.

>I've had your little message to the universe ON LOOP!
Even in her anger and loss, she wanted to keep hearing Pink's voice.

yes

Ah shit, nigger...

I just gotta make time outside of college classes and homework. I probably won't color it aside from monochrome color, I should probably do the line art and shading with pink actually

>people complaining about Spinel's ending when she gets to pop head-first into Diamond pussy for the rest of her life

I can't believe people didn't get how based this was, /ourgirl/ until the end baby

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cool

Pink Diamond is literally worse than HITLER

did she fucking kill those gems to put them on her shoulders

PINK DIAMOND IS A BITCHASS MOTHERFUCKER

fucking sugar, man

tvline.com/2019/09/02/steven-universe-the-movie-kiss-fusion-explained-interview/

GONNA PUT MY DICK IN THE DIRT
AND FUCK THE WHOLE UNIVERSE

Bismuth singing actually got me fucking hyped.

Her theme song is pretty rad

Yeah I loved how it was incorpated.
>AS LONG AS SOMEONE WEARS THE STAR
>WE'LL FIND A WAY
>TO SAVE THE DAY
>THAT'S WHO WE ARE!

>people siding with spinel
ask me how i know u dont have any younger brothers/sisters, they are annoying as fuck and they suck i would be glad if i ccould leave mine on a planet for 6000 years im with pink on this one

Would you tell them to stay put there, without moving?

yes

I found her guys

so was this shit even needed?

why did pink become fat? was it to blend in america?

for that she'd need her shield weapon to become a gun and the temple to become a school or public gathering

is... is that a shoe?

>Pink Diamond is a bitchass motherfucker, she left me alone for 6000 years. That’s right, she took her fuckin Pink Diamond privelage and she said “ok stay here” and I said “alright” and she fucking left me so I'mma make a callout post on my twit-

>didn't even look back

ADD IT TO THE LIST

You seem to misunderstand
Within the shows context, most gems are "bubbled" when they want to be sealed up and forgotten, where they are pretty much at rest and most who experience it come out traumatized.

Now imagine someone going through that consciously and seeing everything that had happened without being able to do anything

Talk no Justsu actually works here because it was less about it actually working and more about Spinal realizing that she's attacking the one person who actually meant it and broke down.

Seeing, what seems to her, like Steven about to betray fucking broke her

>Gonna prank Pink Diamond when she gets home

Ive come to make an announcement

Steven Universe is a bitch ass motherfucker
He left me alone for 6000 years Thats right he took his little hybrid gem and dumped my ass and he said his compassion was THIS BIG. And I said "thats disgusting!" So Im making a callout post on Keep Beach City Weird dot com. Steven Universe you got a small gem, it’s the size of this peridot except WAY smaller. And guess what heres what my injector looks like:
Thats right ruby. All drill, no compassion, no singing, no crying, look at that it looks like three legs and a drill. He broke my empire so guess what I GONNA BREAK HOMEWORLD. Except Im not gonna break Homeworld Im gonna go HIGHER. Im breaking THE EARTH. HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT WHITE DIAMOND, YOU IDIOT!? You have 41 hours before all biological life ends, now get out of my fucking sight before I drill you too!

No, with oime grooming he could have been a decent looking guy, but she barely shaves

Fuck Pink Diamond honestly.

So if I understand correctly
>Started a rebellion which got thousands of homeworls gems killed
>Brought it to Earth which got even more gems killed
>Cucks her most loyal servant
>Her shitty rebellion failed but it’s ok because they think I’m dead
>Lives life peacefully with hundreds of thousands of shattered gems on her killed list
>Gets to die on HER own terms the way SHE wants to
>Forgets about her best friend completely because she was getting slightly annoying
>Leaves her son to deal with every problem she had to deal with

Did I forget anything? Did I mess up anything? Is there a better list of all of PD’s crimes?

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Bismith. Not telling the Crystal Gems the truth.

Also her rebellion resulted in Lapis getting trapped in a mirror for thousands of years.

Ha-ha-ha, but SHATTERING gems is too much Bismuth!

Didn't tell people about the cluster

Forced the one that loved her to linger on alone with the secret of the horrible war they caused, physically unable to ever confide in anyone or reveal the truth about it.

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posted this in the other thread but it got archived lol

made a shitty instrumental of Other Friends, working on making a cleaner version and a "vocals only" version of the tune

I'll post updates later

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I mean technically the diamonds left for earth via spaceship so even if steven had called them they would still arrive at the time they arrived in the movie.

But on the other hand, they had a fucking teleporter they could have used so...

GG Bismuth, Lapis and Peridot, you did fucking nothing

Fun.

Fuck you QUEER

Led Pearl on for years, and Bismith.

THE BIGGEST PLOT HOLE IN THE MOVIE.

Where did she get the Injector? And the bio poison? And how'd she find Earth?

They helped get Garner back.

what the fuck was her problem?

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she was a kid

Gems are born adults. She was just a shit.

>be spinel
>watch the broadcast
>gomu gomu no spring leg
>spring off into the cosmos
>land on peaceful gem colony where gems are cleaning up war stuff
>HEY CLODNIGGERS I'M GONNA TAKE THESE THINGS
>amethysts are like sure
>fly off to earth with the ship's/drill's navigation system

>STEVEN WEVE DECIDED TO COME LIVE WITH YOU

>LOL NO WAY FAG

Found it in abandoned weapons hold while travelling at the speed of FUCKING PISSED

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The entire point of Pink Diamond getting "her own colony" also includes weapons that would aid in taking over planets.

The injector was most likely a weapon made for scavenging earth

kek

>Injector? And the bio poison?
Weapon meant for Planet invasions.

>How'd she fine Earth
Spinel had to watch everything that had happened to Pink Diamond through the broadcast. That's why she's FUCKING PISSED

>not "Ara ara Steven...we've been so lonely in the palace. How about we move in with you here on Earth and then you can bareback fuck our tight diamond pussies?"
>no way fags

Maybe Spinel should've gotten gud.

>ara ara

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Im pretty sure Spinal was BTFO of steven and only ended because she broke down emotionally

Anyone else catch the SkiFree game on Peridot's computer?

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just waiting for all the edits with Luffy announcing her attacks

I'VE COME TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT

Poor l'il bit. Just wanna hug her, put a blanket over her shoulders and give her a mug of hot cocoa.
And get an arm or legjob from those crazy noodles.

>Playing a game, watching a show and doing work at the same time
Peak zoomer.

>Peridot shrugging Amethyst off because she thought she was still retarded

>Im back you dip

kek

She pulled it out of her pants.
>Holy smokes SHE'S A TOON

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why is pink such a cunt

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Anyone else?

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Not even comparable
Fry actually gave a shit

I've come to make an announcement:
Pink Diamond's a bitch ass motherfucker. She pissed on my garden. That's right, she took her fucking pink dick out and she pissed on my garden and she said her dick was "this big" and I said "that's disgusting".

So I'm making a callout post on my twitter dot com: Pink Diamond, you got a small dick, its the size of Amythest except way smaller. And guess what? Here's what my dong looks like. That's right baby, all point, no quills, no pillows, look at that it looks like two balls and a bong.

He fucked my garden so guess what? I'm gonna fuck the Earth. That's right this is what you get, MY SUPER INJECTOR PISS. Except I'm not pissing on the Earth, I'm gonna go higher, I'M PISSING ON THE MOON. HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT WHITE DIAMOND, I PISSED ON THE MOON YOU IDIOT!

You have forty-one hours before the piss drop-el-ets hit the fucking Earth, now get out of my fucking sight, before I piss on you too.

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Rose is such a fucking cunt and I'm glad even Steven acknowledges it.

it's way worse
Pink knew her toy was sentient

Thats a funny way of typing bitch

I mean I'd imagine theres a bit more. Like the war and the degradation of Germany after which plus falling in with the Nazis.

I was tranced by Steg Multiverse to realize, why DID Spinel run away sad?

Her best friend Steven left her alone to play with his other friends

mega.nz/#!QegW1IyD!EaK_kBmjf_O-riWjmh-t99RNPCooAb-acViSZ5Hnppc

Any webms of Takafumi Hori's scenes?

>Where are we going?
>Back...to where I never left
Fuck. That hits home.

> no turn around
> no looking back
> no wave to a friend
> no sincere act of reassurance

But Spinel didn't need reassurance
Didn't need a wave or a look back
She kept her word, not to move
Because she had absolute trust and faith in her Diamond
A smile may fade and doubt creep in from the edges, but she always trusted that Pink Diamond would suddenly return and joy of joys it would be wonderful.

Pink Diamond was considered shattered for some time of those 6000 years... But Rose Quartz could have at any point returned, revealed the truth that she was pink diamond and undone her lie in an instant.
People think Spinel was betrayed only once.
Spinel was actually betrayed twice: Once by her Diamond and then again by the Rose Quartz rebel persona of Pink Diamond.

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>"I'M THE LOSER OF YOUR GAME YOU DIDN'T KNOW I WAS PLAYING"

Consistency? ....never.

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Oh, you noticed that too?

>steven didn't hug her
>not even once

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>HOLY SHIIIIIEEEE DID WHAT?
Greg what the fuck?

he's still at least partly his mother.

oof you right

1080p version when?

He was probably trying to be cautious because sweet jesus did his mom fuck this poor girl up.
Last thing he needs is to give her a hug and have her suffer a nervous breakdown or some shit.

He is still his mother's son

Also death was a concern. She was pretty unpredictable and could snap his neck in a second without his powers.

I may have not noticed it well but I thought that machine sucked everything back in by that point

i see the post dimaond empire as basically like any post ussr state right after its collpase where weapons and shit would just lie around and people just took what they can get there hands on

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>Spinels little heart pigtails follow Mickey Mouse ear rules
absolutely perfect

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This must be a parallel/metaphor of gay/trans and her mother's

What's a good way to make webms within the size limit without sacrificing too much quality? I've got the scene of Steven recovering his powers, but can't post it.

>She waited thousands of years in the same spot hoping the person she cared for'd come abck, despite said person completely forgetting her and ditching her like an used rag.
>over 6000 years standing on the same spot refusing to move until you finally get a message and it's from some kid who tells you she is gone.
>"Nah man, that's weak because we only saw a few mins of it"

You wanted the movie to last 6000 years?

I fucking HATE EVERYTHING. SHE DIDNT DESERVE THE PAIN.

There's also how he already did try to approach her and put his hand on her shoulder and she lashed out. She could've just not been ready for a hug.

All this talk about Pink Diamond abusing her toy reminds me of how her relationship with Greg began "oh, you're so cute and I wish I could play with you" and how she didn't take a single word of his seriously until Garnet pushed Greg into trying to talk to her.

Did Greg really change Pink or was he also a toy to her this entire time? What a cunt.

>But Rose Quartz could have at any point returned, revealed the truth that she was pink diamond and undone her lie in an instant.
Teleport machine broke

Jesus fucking christ, Becky.

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this show could have been good if it had good writers
it has a good general premise and the backstories work well
it's just that all the fucking """"political""" stuff they put in to make the diamonds seem threatening makes their redemption absolutely ridiculous
if they had just been crazy gods that didn't understand the feelings of their creations, without the authoritarian vibes and without purposefully ending / torturing them, then it would have realized the shows's theme much more believably and made the conclusion feel much more satisfying
I feel like it's an american thing, these guys just can't write a fucking story without making the antagonists absolute monsters

> But the teleporters were broken!
Uhhh, user... You've completely forgotten about Pink's Leg-ship in the fucking desert, haven't you?

Don't feel bad about forgetting about it, so did Pink Diamond/Rose Quartz.
Both, the forgetting about it and the not feeling bad about it.

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What would the diamonds have really changed? Yeah, they could curb spinel in a few seconds but a fusion or Lapis could have done that. Steven and Peridot had concluded that that the diamonds wouldn't be able to heal organic life anywhere near as well as Steven himself could.

strawpoll.me/18584443

At least he held hands multiple times

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When somebody loved me
Everything was beautiful
Every hour spent together
Lives within my heart

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I want to say Steven because she left him with all her problems but he managed to fix all of them.

And 6k years is a long fucking time

Dont you DARE

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STEVEN UNIVRSE MOVIE IS TOY STORY 4 BUT BETTER.

Honestly, I'm thinking that's more and more likely.

Rewatching the movie and I kind of missed that Spinel actually showed concern for Steven when the stage blew smoke, she actually cared for him before she got her memories back

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>Steven finally puts everything right, fixing his mother's smoking wreck of a life
>Pink pops out, tells him he's a good boy, and flies off to wherever she wants, happy to live consequence-free
>Snerson invasion happens afterwards, and the Diamonds are unable to do anything about it, leaving Steven to figure out how to stop them without his powers or ability to play on their cold-blooded heartstrings

Is that a quote from something?

>our tight diamond pussies
>tight
Their vaginas are larger than his fucking house

someone better pour lots of love into this qt

relative to their size, they're tight

AND YOU CAN HAVE IT ALL
MY EMPIRE OF DIRT

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Steven is basically Hitler Jr. at this point.

No, steven did. They are just shards now, ou can't see the other shattered parts underneath. He also put her in the warrior slut outfit because he finally got around to reading his dad's books.

Everyone is terrified of Pink Murdercock's Attack Monkey in the future.

That WAS an amazing clip. Incredible animation, the perfect demonstration of Spinel's frankly OP abilities, a catchy song that completely deconstructs the presumptions up to that point. Spinel was more of a villain in those few precious seconds than she was the entire rest of the film. Frankly, I'd almost regard that Spinel as a different character, one who arrives to critique the thesis and advance the plot, and the justification and backstory of that essential character is secondary.

>Lying upside-down
>She greets the diamonds with a headstand
>The Garden

I like this Wojack. Thank you.

>Implying Artmadness thinks about what he draws.

THIS IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE, AND I NEED YOU ALL TO PAY ATTENTION!!

CANNONBAAAAAALL!!!

>I HATE THIS CHARACTER SO MUCH I CAN'T PLEASURE MYSELF TO THEM ANYMORE

Why didn't Steven smash?

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No one replied to you, user, but I just want to say you have great taste. QueenAdreena was amazing, and still is.

Too sad.

Had Pink not left her, how would Spinel do as a Crystal Gem?

Can ya Steven Universe niggers move to /mlp/ or something. No one cares about your gay ass show.

Because Steven knew deep down that I was her husbando and that it would be wrong of him to try

It's not inconsistent you dumbass, there's literally an on-screen transformation sequence.

Based Steven

The mean the amount of poison.

Fry couldn't return
Pink faggot could've.
Shatter yourself

>Sends her away with the Diamonds forever
>Doesn't even hotdog her a little, just to tell her that he loves her just that little bit

Spinel's suffering never ends

>her smile and optimism
>gone

>Hotdog her
Wait you mean the porkchop were perfect line, or something else?

Putting his dick in between her buttocks but not actually inside her anus.

It's when you hump someone a little while hugging

Oh that.

Couldn't tell, cause hotdog and SU just means that to me.

sometimes simple can be good
someone being pissed because she got fucking punked for 6000 years by her best friend, and she only figured this out by a message also letting her know said best friend is dead, is easily understood, makes sense, and is even sympathetic

I love Spinel but absolutely hate her old look and that she goes back to it. She looked so much better messy.

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imgur.com/a/VpgIPnd

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Isn't that lovely?
Isn't that cool?
And isn't that cruel?
And aren't I a fool to have...

She stays in her edgy form at the end though.

THIS IS WHY REACTING LIVE IS A BAD IDEA SHIT I JUST GOT TO IT.

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I'm expecting to see Spinel on those Suffering/How much they deserved it charts now, with a whole lot of suffering and not a lot of deserving.

topkek

Reacting live keeps you honest. It's crazy how you self-justify without realizing it if you don't put your thoughts out somewhere.

Spinel is the height of done nothing wrong. She did exactly what she was created to do and she did it with a smile for thousands of years only to discover she was abandoned.

Her blind rage murder/suicide pact against the planet earth, while not justified, is 100% understandable and it's honestly amazing she was sane enough to get talked down at all.

yeah, i noticed it when i first saw it

Come to think about it,save for the Diamonds, Homeworld has fuck all security. She probably did take a stroll in PD’s closet and found one WMD out of a mountain of them.

yes

I like how halfway through she acknowledges that she really wants to kill Steven, and she doesn't know why. That's rage. In its purest form. I really know what that feels like.

She smacked the shit out of Steven every opportunity she had and it didn't make her feel any better, because all she wants is to be his friend. I maintain that cognitive dissonance defeated her instead of talk-no-jutsu on Steven's part, and I'd gladly die on this hill.

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>Another overarching plot of PD ruining absolutely everything
Let me guess, Season 6 is going to be about shit like Jasper realizing all the warfare and mistreatment she was forced to suffer through was the doing of the person she was most loyal to, or something to do with how Pink Pearl was just the perfect little Pearl for PD until she gets damaged and thrown away just so PD can get a new one.

I mean yeah. The movie kind makes a point of the fact that she has to take the first step herself.

I thought she was just spraying herself with cream.

No you’re pretty much on the ball. Spinel’s action were based off a split-second decision to go to Earth and fuck up Steven’s shit in blind rage. Steven really couldn’t talk her down because there was a risk of her relapsing(which she did). She came to the conclusion herself after completely running out of steam and realized that she needed to change on her own.

>Tranny fights with lesb who also fights with Mysterious asex.
They should be United, amirite or what?

Soundtrack mega when?

I made popcorn to watch the movie and the packet I bought has no salt it's just all butter. This is awful.

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Couldn't you just... add salt?

You don't have your own salt?

Not him but table salt isn't the same as popcorn salt

It's amazing how all of Yea Forums seems to believe this but I got a totally different read. Is it just the Yea Forumsntrarians riding the "Pink is literally worse than Hitler" meme still?
>Blue and Yellow took over Pink's gems
>Blue gets the zoo, Yellow gets Jasper, etc
>Pink had no reason to believe this gem that was specifically invented just for her and is unique and according to Pearl is flawless would ever be forgotten, assumed the other Diamonds would take her too
>it's somehow Pink's fault that the other Diamonds forgot her
>it's somehow Pink's fault that her last game was taken so literally for so long, something no reasonable person would expect
>it's somehow Pink's fault that Spinel went totally ape shit just because she got ghosted, something that happens to plenty of people every day and doesn't send them into a murderous rage
>this gem was made to be a FRIEND and not a life partner, there is no deeper bond implied or hinted at at all, but somehow Spinel thinks she's entitled to Pink's entire life, an unhealthy obsessive behavior in anyone
The movie was just about how Spinel is fucking crazy and was probably going to snap over something eventually no matter what it was. The solution is to enable her and coddle her so she doesn't have to change.

It's literally the same.

Yellow Diamond *did* say she was dismantling her military/expansion. You don't just scoop up all the planet killers, the guns, the etc. and huck them into a nearby sun.

Literally dismantling weapons of war takes time and effort, and presumably YD was storing them somewhere, and ALOT of them. Even with two years of this behind her, you've got *planets* worth of gear to deal with.

So Spinel snaps, warps out of Pink's garden and lands back on homeworld, takes a little while to find an armory or repurposed weapons storage facility and grabs a big bottle of Planet killer and then books it too earth. With the sheer number of things YD has to empty out, and no galactic level enemies that've been established,the place wouldn't be super heavily guarded, no one would notice a single injector missing, and Spinel has an all encompassing element of surprise.

It's not too unfeasible, is what I'm saying...

As someone who's worked at a movie theatre that's run out of popcorn salt and had to cook batches with normal salt, I kindly disagree

You're wrong no matter how kind you are. It's fucking NaCl you stupid fuck. It's the same.

anyone got links for the whole show? I missed the last few episodes of season 5

OK Jimmy Neutron, doesn't change the fact that popcorn salt has butter flavoring added to it

>have butter
>have salt
>but it's not the same as butter flavored salt
Okay retard

You just keep making yourself seem like a bigger and bigger retard, you're not convincing anyone.

>doesn't change the fact that popcorn salt has butter flavoring added to it
Are you legitimately retarded

watchcartoononline.cc/anime/steven-universe
Do people seriously still not know about this site? It's 2019.

Pink Diamond seems like the type who would think the pink injector was pretty, then steal it and giggle while the gems assigned to guard it try to figure out where the hell a massive machine full of poison could have gone. Spinel probably just grabbed it from wherever Pink stashed it.

thewatchcartoononline.tv/anime/steven-universe

Thanks to Steven and the Stevens there is a timeline where she’s still standing there

>implying
All the other timelines turned to sand, m8.

Is there a timeline where Steven keeps Spinel and they fuck

Puberty hormones.

And too much Sugar.

>sugar capitalized
Witty

Pink Diamond never returned to the garden.
Spinel became half-gem half-plant and floated forever through space.
Although she wished for death, she was unable to die.
So eventually, she stopped thinking.

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streaming sucks, I prefer a version on my hard drive

>I prefer to risk a shady download over just using adblock

Wasn't she always on Earth when the rebellion started?

Kinda hoping this gets answered in S6.

I figured she was freaking out because Steven disappeared same way they wanted Pearl to think Greg was gone. Just an unintended side-effect.

>So eventually, she started doubting.

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>I was just pretending to be retarded

I need gifs from Spinel's song when she first showed up, particularly loops of her fighting with each CG and her walking loop on the lighthouse.
I fucking love how she moves.

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Thank you.

Not a gif from the fight, but I just got done with this.

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Yeah shit happens, friends drift apart. No one is responsible for your hapiness but yourself. You are not entitled to anyone elses time or attention unless it's like marriage or something.

Looks terrible.

>Ah it's finally finished, a memoir of my life, written in bio-poison!

Who actually listens to any of these cartoon analysts?

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Themselves. They love the sound of their own voice.

I made a higher quality version, I just wanted a smaller one to use on here. I'm not gonna bother linking to Twitter where I posted the better version, because I don't want to shill my Twitter.

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She was literally made to be Rose's friend. That was her one purpose in life, dude.

For a moment I thought that was nurse Spinel in the middle.

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Kids, obviously. Do you not know who watches cartoons?

I haven't seen this movie and I've been avoiding Steven universe for a while now, but this spinel chick is so cute and pure and huggable that I'm going to endure the pain of pink cunt who left her son to clean up her mess, the series, and watch it

Then so weird how she reacted as if they were more than friends. Yet she has the free will to move on to the Diamonds later on.

>standing right next to the screen
>away from the screen and runs up to it

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After learning that she can do more with her life than what she was initially designed for. Like what everyone assumed Pearl had for a character arc before the Rose is PD reveal hit and ruined her progression.

That gives me an idea.
I should edit every single episode to include a little window in the corner that show Spinel standing in the garden so that while you watch steven having all his adventures with his friends, you can see her suffering alone in real time.

Makes sense, jealousy is impulsive and it got dialed to 11 when she saw that "pink" abandoned her for 6000 to hang out for other people, and they explain the diamonds when she says that they remind her of pink

So are you blind or what?

>what is perspective

There's jealousy, and then theres obsession.

>oh no, I have no actual point against what he said... Maybe if I act incredibly wrong about something unrelated he'll get distracted and argue about that instead

Is that not reasonable?

kek

Spinel is the only good thing about the movie. If they could make this character why id the show suck?

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What? No, I'm trying to explain my reasoning. I'm sure she was obsessed because PD was the sole reason she was alive. It took some growth to realize that she can be someone other than PD's bestie and that PD leaving her isn't the end of everything. Yes the progression was fast, but she also had an uneventful life up until that point.

Two gems in a garden by themselves. No sign of gems to tend it or keep the plants in check. Simple - the injector was the gem equivalent of weed killer. Designed to release a few drops to keep the plants from growing like crazy.

Same guy with the spongebob gif, here's the Spinel and Pearl gif.

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>Two gems in a garden by themselves.
5 light years apart cause they're not gay

Oh thank you user! It's a little... Deep dished however. Was it meant to be like that? Is something wrong with your copy of the movie user?

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There's no difference in chemical composition, and usually no flavoring agents either - the difference between table salt and popcorn salt is purely physical. Salt used for popcorn in the theater is very *very* fine grain salt designed to spread much more evenly across odd surfaces like popcorn kernels. A fine dusting of salt across the entire kernel produces a different taste sensation than a few larger grains.

Imagine if you were playing tag. You touch someone and say "you're it!" Now for some fucking reason that person develops PTSD and instant depression over being stripped of their identity and humanity because you called them "It", like that kid from that book who was called It his whole life. Clearly that person is just fucking crazy and unstable, it's not your fault for calling them It. Pink said to stay there, she's not at fault for Spinel going off the rails with something so simple. Spinel is just fucking crazy, she's clearly paranoid too.

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She escaped to Earth

Pink Diamond was a privileged child, doted on and never had to work or do anything. She had gem waiting on her hand and foot and literally inside the walls of her room. She was never taught to value others so she learned they only had value to her while they were not boring her.

hi! is there any way to bypass the mega.nz stuff? i don't really use it that often and it's tellin' me........... i can't watch more... mom... my entertainment....

He's just shit at making gifs.

Here's the one with Amethyst

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Really hoping not. Doesn't leave a whole lot of room for tension or excitement when you can basically piece together the entire plot between point A and B. We know the Diamonds don't go back to their old ways, we know there's no major rebellions or resistance during Steven's dismantling of the Homeworld Empire, we know the Crystal Gems go off and form their own little community, etc etc etc. There's nothing new to get out of jumping back to the end of Change Your Mind.

Oh yeah, If you don't like it then here's a larger one. I'm just strangely cautious of file size for no good reason

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Countless Human Men and Women she probably seduced and left broken messes when she eventually moved on, once she was "done with them"

There's still a lot to explore, since we see their "happily ever after" but not necessarily how they got to it. The tension and threat of death, for the most part, is over, so now we can see them work to it.

There's no confirmation that we're going back, it's purely speculation from someone's ass that just caught on. We only know a few things for sure.
>three seasons planned, one season being worked on currently (imo that's one seasom confirmed and three seasons possible)
>seasom 6-9 will be different from the original show, a Steven Universe Shippuden if you will
That's really it. It could just as easily take place after the movie.

AHAHAHah holy shit cartoonsfags are cringe, this shallow ass melodramatic bullshit is good to you? AHAHAHAH
No wonder no one respects the cartoons you guys dick ride, you have absurdly low standards, and do a lot of "it's just a cartoon", to handwave the short comings.

And in the same breathe shit on some block buster hollywood movie, lmao this is just hilarious to me, this movie and series suck ass hahahah

>Then so weird how she reacted as if they were more than friends.
I mean, All gems serving under a diamond have deep admiration for their respective diamond, it's just incredibly one sided. Jasper fucking blew her stack when thought that Rose Quartz killed PD. So it's no wonder that Spinel felt betrayed and immensely enraged when the Diamond she felt a deep connection ghosted her for 6 millennia and she happily waited there like the obedient little playmate she was made to be.

Maybe you should watch that whole scene again to get the full extent of the context.

Lastly, the Garnet gif. Sorry for the lower quality gifs, I thought it was fine since only the background was affected.

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I would also blow my stack if someone straight up murdered my friend, doesn't mean I'll literally go insane and go on a shooting spree if we fall out of touch or grow apart.

I feel like the very first song serves as some sort of evidence, with "here we are in the future". Granted, it's because of a timeskip, but considering everything unexplored, it'd be weird to just drop off after everything, while dropping hints of what happened in the timeskip.

based movie confirming that Rose never loved Greg, since now we know that he IS able to fuse, just with someone that actually loves him back

I get the feeling that you're new to making gifs since they got progressively better, like you practiced now.

Steven is half human and that lets him fuse with humans.

Rose did love Greg though, at first it was superfiicial love but Greg showed her what love really means.

Feel like it all you want. We have two solid facts, don't pass off your speculation as fact.

I think Greg was the only thing Rose ever did truely love, maybe pearl but it was pretty toxic

But they didn't grow apart in any way that's considered natural. She was straight up ditched. PD went to run a colony, got bored with that, got embroiled in a gem war, had a kid, and disappeared. She treated Spinel the same way a child treats a toy, tossed away with no fanfare or ceremony. Only in the case of Spinel, that toy had feelings.

Again, I feel her instability was brought upon by the fact that she was made for a single purpose and lost that purpose when she was abandoned. Trying to relate her to a human doesn't work because people aren't birthed as one thing and one thing only like she was.

And is also half human.

>A diamond acts like a cunt
>People act like its news
(You)s for days

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Basically the exact same things that happens to millions of people every year as they graduate high school and dissapear out of the lives of like 90% of their friends forever in one day. Shit happens, it doesn't usually send people into a murderous rampage. Spinel is just fucking crazy.

>she only has the feelings that its convenient for her to have in the moment

>Spinel is just fucking crazy.
Did you forget the part where she waited for rose for 6000 years?

Which is basically like nothing. It didn't make Lapis crazy, and Yellow confirms its a short time to immortal beings.

Spinel isn't a human who can just move on, it was literally ingrained into her "this is what you are, you exist solely for Pink Diamond". It's not the same at all.

I'm not, but like you said, just as easily that season 6 can take place after the movie, it could take place before, no fact shut downs that.
My main point is that there's no reason to think that because we've seen an idealistic end that the journey to get there isn't still worth viewing, nor is it unreasonable for someone to conclude that they'd return to just a bit after where season 5 left off, but not so far off that most things we see in the movie are already resolved.

Lapis did go crazy you dipshit, and Yellow was being sarcastic you autist

This argument negates the entire message of the show. Gems aren't mind controled, some just like their position so they stay in it. None of the off colors seemed like they lacked direction, the Amethysts were able to rebel freely to smuggle the gems off the zoo, its just Spinel who went batshit over something simple.

>it didn't make lapis crazy
HMM

Humans aren't initially programed for one thing, they're aware that they have free will to move on. To Gems that was a foreign concept until the dead of the 5th season. On top of that, human beings have the benefit of knowing that they've drifted part from people and can move on. Spinel honestly believed that her and PD were playing game...for 6000 freaking years. That rage and instability had a pretty good while to simmer. And in the mind of of a one-track minded Gem, she was inevitably going to turn into a powder keg.

>It didn't make Lapis crazy
Did you forget her whole character arc of having trust issues and fearing being locked up away again?
And Spinel was making a joke, Diamonds are especially detached from understanding how much that kind of time would mean to someone.

Lapis had trust issues after being used without her consent in the mirror, her time alone didn't play into it.

>It didn't make Lapis crazy
It took her almost the entire current show's lifespan to finally chill and stay on earth

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The current dsm does not recognize a difference

>Yellow was being sarcastic you autist
No she wasn't, that's the joke.
Spinel was being sarcastic, but yellow was laughing at it in a "so real and relatable" way.

Spinel was clearly wired differently. She's almost like a pearl. She was purpose-built, programmed to serve a single function with all her effort. She wasn't stable enough to go through what she went through. It literally broke her.

All I'm getting from this is that you didn't read what I said before and you need me to repeat it.
If her gem programing is so deep set, if she was determined to be a good friend, then why is her reaction at being left NOT the reaction level a friend would have? She is insanely obsessed with Pink, beyond what a friend would be, it's not her programming its her.

Yeah it's a good job Lapis didn't get hit. They'd need double the runtime for that.

Being scared of the diamonds and not wanting a war is not crazy. Lapis wasnt crazy.

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youtube.com/watch?v=CWnWwN1z_UM

Spinel in a nutshell.

top ten anime betrayals

>waste the song in AT
F U C K

GOOD SHIT user. Blog?

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On the nose. Those were the first gifs I made that wasn't part of an assignment, which was from over a year ago.

The way you people cycle through the same three shit arguments on repeat is so stupid. Read the damn thread or at least the conversation before you butt in with something someone else already said.

Can anyone post some of Amethyst's default look? I really loved the sectioned off limbs she had.

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Dude, Lapis was, and kinda still is, pretty unhinged.

she could have told the other CrystalGems, like Pearl "If you ever find a way to get back to homeworld without endangering yourself, there might still be Spinel somewhere, waiting for me."

but nope, nothing

It reminded me a lot of how chubby babies looks, that or like those tiny wood manequins artists use for posing.

I'm starting to believe that you're being deliberately obtuse.

Some gems aren't really people, like how slaves aren't really people

Welcome to Yea Forums

>Lapis
>Not crazy
She's literally one step from snapping and killing everyone.

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She's more positive now. So that's a good thing.

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>You couldn't protect this smile

Lapis may not have been text-book crazy in that her actions didn't have reasoning, but she was clearly mentally devastated from her experience, just like Spinel. It's not the exact same situation or reaction, but it's clear that her trauma ruled over her actions repeatedly until she could deal with it.
She ran away from a somewhat stable home because of her fears, she became her own jailer when she fused with Jasper which made another mess, she attacked the gems and tried to steal the water of the world because she so desperately wanted to go home afer being a mirror.
When simplified it's rational to not want to fight in a war or to fight against your creators, but it's when it becomes a self-destructive reflex more than a thought out decision that it's a sign of a problem.

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Oh this is a fun game, where you progressively pick softer and softer words until it looks like you're right. Lapis isnt completely fucking batshit insane like Spinel is, argue about if she's "unhinged" or not amongst yourself.

oww edge

I really love the Lapis quote, "Well I wouldn't call it spying, because that would make me feel bad"

Shows how she was back then.

It's not edgy to not be a yandere murder psycho.

user, she tried to steal the ocean. She put herself in a fusion prison just to have someone to hurt forever. Lapis was crazy.

i don't like the show but lilly's review on it is so unbearable to watch. he always talks in this arrogant sarcastic tone that just sounds so aggravating to listen to. fucker could shit on literal nazism for all i care and i'd still hate hearing it from him

e;r's review is better imo. watched around the time where i still considered myself a fan and it entertained me nonetheless

unrelated but
>STABLE home

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Pro-tip. Get Webm for Retards. It's easier, has more tools, and you get higher quality results.

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Lapis tried to get home via the ocean until Steven calmed her down enough to explain that that would be harmful to others, something she didn't realize before then. And she didn't form Malechite "just to have someone to hurt" keep your headcanon to yourself.

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Now post the sex orgy after.

She's a different blue now. This bothers me.

Thanks Yoto!

Okay haven't seen the movie and now I'n seeing clips where Pearl becomes Greg's servant by accident when she's rebooted. When she regains her memories does she still have something for Greg or does she just revert back to loving Rose again? Also wtf happened to his arm?

She's Greg's friend, that's all.

His arm gets covered in the bio poison and becomes crippled, but Steven heals it later.

They don't totally clearly remember what happens while they're rebooted. And Greg's arm was splashed with some anti-orgamic poison/acid combo and died. Its black like frostbite, it's dead.

Reached the point where I hope Jasper will be the ONE to defeat talk-no-justu

it appears, based on amethyst reaction, that they don't remember what happened during the time their memories were rebooted.

Guess she didn't realize drowning people hurt them either, she was just trying to give them a friendly hair wash

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>during the movie Lapis says she's still deciding on whether or not she still wants to kill Steven

She admits multiple times she fused so she could have someone to lash out at indefinitely

What a fucking monster

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Spoiled and entitled, no real concern for others.

You're sassy like you think you caught me in something, but you really didn't. You said "Lapis tried to steal the ocean" and I specifically responded to that. You didn't mention to fight yet so I didn't reapond to it. And yeah, Lapis was trying to get home, they were trying to stop her, so she resisted. When they stopped using force so did she, she carries Steven up to her willingly at the end. Still not so Batshit insane that you forget that the reset scythe is your own damn scythe and tall yourself into a paranoid delusion over it that leads you to trying to exterminate a planet. That's fucking crazy.

Incorrect.

>That broken loop
Here, try this one

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newfag

Fry wanted to return, but couldn't.
Pink could've returned, but didn't want to.

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If you'd stop thinking of her as a helpless pet or something and started thinking of her as a person, you'd realize Pink didn't do jack shit to her.

>give armor
>but also put a big hole in a place you really don't wanna get stabbed or shot or whatever
Why?

>how did this wacky cartoon villain get everything in wacky cartoon time?? it's almost like shes got wacky cartoon logic on her side but that doesn't make sense

you could always get some from here

an artificial person programmed to obey the orders of her Diamond

they want to fuck connie

>all with a smile on her face
She didn't even mention to the other gems that Spinel would still be back there.
Like, "if you're somehow safely on Homeworld please get Spinel out of the garden".
But nope.
Not a damn thing.

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Can a drawfag make this image with Spinel?

>WE'LL FIND A WAY
>TO SAVE THE DAY
>THAT'S WHO WE ARE

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Stop with this shit. Unless you think all gems are mindless automatons, she is a person.

based as always yuto

Was Steven ultimately just some kind of elaborate tax evasion for Pink?

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They are tho. Pearl proved it with her 5000 year old command.

She didn't have wacky cartoon powers, she just squashed and stretched in a way resembling cartoons, that's literally it.

Wasn't one of the bits in the movie that there is no Happily Ever After and there will always be new shit to deal with in order to hold on to the good times?

More like life evasion. She left her entire mid-life crisis for Steven to deal with.

why is spinel's voice so perfect

Pink diamond is the equivalent of one of those so called "friends" who play hide and seek with you only to ditch you and find out she's at her home playing super nintendo with her real friends.

That doesn't prove shit though. If it were true, the off colors would volunteer themselves for recycling. Better yet, if that were true, Spinel would be incapable of snapping after the wait, she would just keep up the "game" until Steven came to the garden. But no, she just has her own thoughts and feelings when its convenient, right? So she is incapable of thought to resist the command, but suddenly a deep well of emotion when she hears the message.

Either she's a person or she isn't, you can't have it both ways. Clearly she is.

Broadway voice actress, one from Avenue Q.

Emotion doesn't make you a person

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Did you have a point to make or are you just bullshitting because you have nothing relevant to say

Nigga what? Lapis was fucked up about it the whole show. It's amazing that Spinel was able to pull herself together in roughly a few days in comparison. Especially since she had to endure it longer than Lapis did with the added sting of betrayal from a friend

i know, its just that scratchy, kinda nasal voice that gets me
reminds me of pic related

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>All the gems and people PD/Rose left behind
Season 6 is gonna be Steven becoming more and more like Pink, getting bored and finding something new.

>fucked up about it
Yeah another attempt at deescalating the language. Spinel is absolutely balls to the wall fucking insane, not just kinda depressed about what happened. Stop trying to pull this shit.

Sarah Stiles is the actress's name.

>deescalating the language
nigga what are you on?

who was the voice of streg?

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That gems are advanced automatons that ultimately don't qualify for personhood

Are you sure that the "I didn't read the conversation before I butt into it" angle is the one you want to go with?

I see the gems more like AI than I do people. They have emotions, sure, but some have programming that conflicts/supersedes their real wants and feelings. Spinel is the prime example of why giving sentience to a creature that also has no inherent freedoms upon creation is a bad fucking idea. And I'm going to add, this point isn't mood because "other gems don't have this problem". Spinel isn't like the others, she was created for a totally unique reason and I bet any other Spinels bred and put through the same shit she went through would yeild similar results. The type of gem she was meant to be is where she is fucked up, not her specifically as a single concious being.

>Steven dismantles gempire
>Steven please stay we did it all for you
>Yeah good job, bye
>Leaves
He's his mother's son

Ted Leo. Him and Opal's VA actually have a band together.

>you'd realize Pink didn't do jack shit to her.
you're dumb

It was actually just one day.

WHOEVER HEARD...of a sad clown?

a pink cunt yor say?

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Moot. Not mood.

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This is a fancy way of saying that she only is a person when its convenient for you, dumbass.

Literally the entire show repeatedly proves you wrong every single step of the way. The Amethysts help the gems escape the zoo for example, something I shouldn't have to repeat to you again if you were keeping up.

did you fags speak up when steven was in his moms armor that was pretty much the same?

You sound like a jackass.

>next time you rewatch the entire show you'll know that shes still just standing there waiting the entire time

damn son

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If Spinel isn't a person then Pink isn't bad for tossing her.

I dunno Lapis had to deal with a complete loss of agency and even most of her senses. It was literally a I have no mouth and must scream scenario. Spinel had all her bits and pieces still working, she just wasted them trying to adhere to a lie. I imagine regret and self-loathing are far more dominant aspects in her mind, while Lapis only has pure contempt for those that put her there, real or imagined.

I stopped actually watching the show some time after the cluster bubbled itself, if I saw that yeah I would have talked shit about it.

>Every Steven Ever
>Little window in the bottom right just showing Spinel standing there waiting

You sound like a dumbass. Of the two, I know which ass I'd rather be.

>Is that all you needed me for? To turn off my injector?
>No... Well, sort of
Good fucking job Steven, that's totally what the person who just got over being abandoned needs to hear.

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Not really, no. With time and life exposure they grow and learn and become more human. Spinel sat on a rock for 6000years and never grew past her initial "live to serve" stage prior to her break. Again, different gem type, and severely different circumstances.

>this entire series

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>person
ONLY WHEN ITS CONVENIENT HUH

yeah steven was a retard right there

If she's so incapable of independant thought she wouldn't be able to break in the first place. You can't keep this circular logic going, you can't have this both waysm

I thought the implication was Lapis was unconscious or only semi aware during that time before Steven found her. Spinel on the other hand was fully conscious/aware and counting only to get hit with the massive kick to the heart of how her friend screwed her over.

Guess it just depends on your interpretation and what you find worse

>injector delivered its entire payload
>beach city only barely destroyed and apparently stopped
this was the biggest annoyance. there was no real threat

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My point is that gem society treats the lower castes as just automatons living witg single purpose but the hubris of the Diamonds is that lesser gems have/will gain sentience and free will with enough time and they will break their mold eventually. That being slaves with no freedom cannot work when they all grow to be more than the sum of their parts. Like how advanced AI in sci fi is portayed. Think Blade Runner.

We generally only apply personhood to objects when it's convenient, yes.

im pretty sure its still inside the earth and if not, inside the cluster.
Its just that the singing takes priority over the poison

Nothing important happened, user, even Spinel is just sent off into an unhealthy relationship based on obsessing over Pink Diamond.

>Well sort of.

YA DUN FUCKED UP BOY!

I don't recall, did the mirror actually need to be turned on when they found it?

And Spinel was a case where instead of wanting to abandon her purpose she clinged to it and felt betrayed because, though having free will, she desperately wanted to just be what she was born to be.

She fucked up SO hard that she went full circle to somehow fixing everything

Then, again, you can't think of her as a helpless pet and have to think of her as a person. Drop the facade youre trying to force in in order to asign blame to Pink and suddenly all that's left is a friend who was obsessed to an insane unhealthy level and had a psychotic break like a deranged yandere.

>unhealthy
which steven caused
yellows job was taking over planets
blues job was to worry over pink
whites job was to worry about perfection
steven took all of that away and now there are 3 bored childless probably super powerful aunts

That logic is fine, but in that case you have to admit its her own choice and not some omnicient command from Pink thay drove her insane.

I hate this show, but I can appreciate they are doing a Micky Mouse reference with how her heart pigtails are always making the equivalent to the Disney logo like Mickeys ears at every angle.

Yes I understand shes a rubber hose reference.

not that user, but i think that the gems do have an overriding sense of purpose at creation. of course they're capable of independent thought: but that was just part of their creation because its better than having a simple program.
amethysts are meant for grunt work, pearls for servants, rubies for basic soldiering, etc. etc.
but they can eventually break that programming through time and new experiences.
the rejuvenator kinda supports the idea of that, setting them back to 'factory settings'

Theory on Spinel, Spinels are servant class gems not entire dissimilar to Pearls, imprinting on their owner, similarly they are rather rare given out mostly as rewards to other gems. Unlike Pearls they are made with a larger proportion of Pink Diamond essence, where Pearls likely require higher amounts of White essence. Our Spinel is noted as being perfect in both cut and color by Pearl, so in a way similar to Jasper, also her perfect quality explains why she was the Spinel of a Diamond

The diamonds are literally gods to them.
Big people in the sky that created them.

Pearl also says "She can't be serious". It's one line, and can easily just be "She can't seriously be trying to hurt us" but just from rebooted Pearl's song Spinels really aren't designed to be anything other than a play thing. It's debatable how much being AI in a sci-fi stops you from being a person, and is the biggest conflict of the series in getting all the gems to learn that they can be independents, but it's a catch-22 where she has to be a person to best be designed to be a best friend, but being a person means that if they grow apart she'll be lost cause she was designed for someone specifically.
Spinel is actually a lot like Jasper, a perfect cut gem made for Pink, a diamond, but ultimately rejected when they weren't aligned with Pink's current desire. They're never given the idea that they could be anything more, and it builds up inside them they the one person they were made to devote their lives to is just gone, not to any fault of their own.

They born with knowledge, that's not the same as being born brainwashed. They're always able to think for themselves.

this series ending would be x100 better if White Diamond shattered long ago and that creepy Pearl was calling the shots

it’s kind of like a lapis situation, just more personal

Nope, you can't have it both ways. Is she programmed to view Pink as a friend, or a god? You can't have this programing stance with this contradiction.

And longer

to be fair, it might just take a long time for the poison to spread throughout the planet, since gems aren't exactly on a rush for time. Without steven, potentially, it would have been an inevitability, but his existence stems that flow even if it's gonna take a year of him kissing dirt to do it.

Remember when Pearl said the trip to Homeworld would only took few decades? Gems are timeless. She was fine during the whole 6000years until the announcement. Maybe Spinel has ADHD by the regular gem standard.

yup, they're just born fully formed with knowledge of their purpose and place in a strict caste system — prior to the beginning of this movie
i never meant to imply that they were brainwashed, just made to fit a certain niche that they would paradoxically grow out of eventually if given enough of a shock

41 hours, they said in the movie. Steven has plenty of time to heal it once he got his powers back.

A few decades is still much much less than 6000 years

I also remember Pearl saying that 14 years ago was "a long time ago" in that one episode where they steal baby steven, so their sense of time isn't perfect, 6000 years probably didn't feel like 6000 years but even if it felt like 6 years that's still torturous

Different person. And it's nothing about programming. It's their literal relationship. They were created out of the dirt by these people. Whether they see it that way or not, these people are their gods. They shout to the heavens at them when they aren't around and when they show up they cower behind rocks.

Remember how Pearl is a huge fucking liar?
and never stopped listening to her Diamond?

>Fine for 6000 years
>Shows her looking ragged and shitty full of doubt even before the call happened

Yeah she sure looked swell

Does the show ever bring up how Pearl never stopped just being Pink's servant?

>They born with knowledge, that's not the same as being born brainwashed.
...Isn't it? They're born with reality already spelled out for them, and in whatever way the author wants it to be.

That said, I found it odd how blank slate Amy was. The others pretty much knew exactly who they were made to be but Amy was all copycat. Is that standard for quartzes or a defect specific to Amy? Seems odd for a warrior class to be so aimless off the bat like that

People, as in real world humans, generally do whats expected of them if they know its expected. Any rule of society that isn't illegal to break is evidence of this, standing in lines for one example. We know we're supposed to, so we do, even with no consequences for not doing it. That doesn't mean we aren't people or that we're preprogramed AI. Same for gems, born knowing what theyre wanted for but still able to think for themselves.

Spinel had only ever known life with Pink, and her gem's purpose was to be her owner's Best Friend. 6,000 years may be nothing by gem standards, but you must realize that she probably didn't even get 600 years with Pink before she left.
In addition, there's the constant self-doubt she felt over whether she was playing her last game right.
Why do you think her villain song is Other Friends? It plays more like that of a jilted ex than it does of any other type of villain.

>Nope, you can't have it both ways. Don't the Christian's always talk about having a personal relationship with God? Seems like you can have it both ways

Time is relative. 6,000 years of doing menial homeworld/conquering new planets work is nothing; 6,000 years of learning about Earth and the potential for change, fighting a rebellion, learning about how much a single moment or even just a couple of years can be worth is huge; 6,000 years of lying in wait for someone to never come, questioning whether you're supposed to keep waiting or not, and withering away bit by bit is just sad.

Its all assumption about Amethyst since she's unique, but I thought it was because of her overcooking.

not really but they mask it by making pearl think shes independent and loves rose

Humans arent programmed you dumb fuck. Do you not know what this argument is about?

During her verse in Happily Ever After

>Once upon a time
>I only lived to be of Pink Diamond's service
>Until the day the two of us snuck down to be on this planet's surface
>We became our fantasy
>And I was sure she set me free
>But in the end, I guess I never left her side

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Its only sad if she's a person, and if she's a person then it's her own crazy ass fault for taking the game so literal and not moving on.

Yeah yeah where's Jasper tho

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Now post the diamonds begging Steven to stay with them and he warps off

beginning flashback, satan.

but you don't come out of the womb ready to be your superior's best friend, servant, oracle, or bodyguard
i agree with you about the gems being people, i was just saying that they are LIKE AIs, in that they are formed with a clearer idea of purpose than we are

>Satan trips
Also, in the eternal bleachers seat

They are, though?
At least they start out that way.
They have underlying feelings sure, but they're also hard-wired to obey the commands of their superiors, especially their diamonds.
They usually have to learn to grow and overcome that.

A better question is, why is it all already customized with Hearts?

she’s dead

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I'm trying to mark a distinction between "purpose" and "expectation" here though. Gems are born with knowledge, to try to keep them in line they bake them with the knowledge of an expectation, that's not the same as a purpose.

you're an idiot

If that's true, then Spinel is a lifeless toy that can be thrown away guilt free, absolving Pink.

I'm a brainlet, please elaborate on the difference

Purpose implies a degree of predestiny, and also implies that breaking from the purpose is a perversion of your own nature. Expectation is something you're inclined to follow, but can choose not to freely.

>There's a fine, fine line
>Between a fairy tale, and a lie.
>And there's a fine, fine line
>Between "you're wonderful" and "goodbye".
>I guess if someone doesn't love you back
>It isn't such a crime
>But there's a fine, fine line
>Between love,
>And a waste of your time

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nice

I'm assuming you're demarcating 'purpose' as something that NEEDS to be followed, like Asimov's Three Laws. If so, fair enough, if not, I'd like to hear the difference.

Fair enough.

And how can you tell the difference if it's impossible to know if predestination is real?

Right, so the main point was that gems are born with the knowledge that there is an expectation for them to perform a certain job. That would mean they're born with free will, its not something they have to earn or figure out with time.

It's not impossible to know. It's not real.

Is Jesper a metaphor of privileged, homophobic denial gay got raped by the first attempt to have sex with a man, then having a dangerous anger sex till he got AIDS?

I have literally no idea what this soup of buzzwords says.

This movie seems like they wanted it to be about an abandoned pearl but forgot they already showed us Pink's first pearl

Yeah, that's what I said, we just disagreed on the difference between purpose and expectations.

If they forgot then it would've been about a pearl. It wasn't.

*Remembered

No.

Yes.

*AHEM*
FUCK PINK

jasper thought fusion was dumb (gay)
then tried to fight against dumbs (gays)
then out of fear decided to try dumbing (gaying)
and now has an STD (itchy scratchy)
and even after getting cured, still fucked up beyond repair (fubar)

I really hate Pearl's new outfit

Option A
>Spinel is programed to be Pinks best friend
>as she is compeltely hard coded to this purpose, she has no independant thought
>she stays in the garden
>this is fine, becaue she isn't a person, she's a toy

Option B
>Spinel is her own person
>she has always been Pinks friend, but she's able to think for herself and feel
>it would be tragic for this version to wait 6,000
>but to do that she has to make her own choice to stay and wait, making it her own fault

Which is it, Yea Forums?

No.

>Not wanting to put all things where they can best serve their purpose
It is a moral failing and an insult to creation to leave a perfectly good spoon to rust in a toilet

i choose option C, which is nice false dichotomy, you jamoke ___________ __________________________________________ ____ __________ ________ _______________ _______________ ______________

She is a person created with a default love for Pink (or maybe just the first person she sees upon being created), and wants to do everything she can to please Pink or that purpose, believing that's what love is: pleasing the the object of your affection no matter what. 6000 years was enough to wear her down and realize Pink never saw her as a person, but just as a toy.

Side-note: Her relationship with the diamonds is doomed to fail because they also only view her as Pink's toy.

That's some top tier mental gymnastics, 10/10.

You're trying to have it both ways. You can't program a person.

So do Amy and Steven fuck?

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how is it mental gymnastics, user?
it just seems like adherence to a moral code that may not align with yours.

>a fantasy show can't have fantastical elements
based

Like mother like son.

Good thing Steven is more like his dad. But damn he can go full PD sometimes.

Yeah. I'm honestly really mad that Spinel got got dumped off with the diamonds. They are barely starting to think of others as equals and nowhere near mature enough to help Spinel through her emotional baggage.
Plus it just feels like Spinel is being thrown away to rot again.

yes you can. Countless people have done so and still do today, to humans. Do you know the word indoctrination? Stockholm syndrome?

Yeah, that ending didn't sit right with me either.
You can even see Spinel kinda go back to her jester ways as she's talking with the diamonds.
And they're just now learning to treat others as equal lifeforms, they're not gonna be able to help her through her shit.
Spinel's pretty much still Pink's plaything to them.

No he’s another gross pasty internet nerd with acne who never put effort in their appearance

>Aggressively upbeat sidekick with a cynical streak and vaguely psychotic tendencies
Would've made a better crystal gem than Lapis

You forget that at the point Pink was abandoning Spinel, Yellow and Blue had not yet taken over her troups. Pink's gems don't get overseen until her death.
This is pretty much just a case of Pink failing to take responsibility for creating something and neglecting it once it becomes inconvenient.

What I want to know is why Yellow didn't do the humane thing, Take Spinel round the back of the garden shed and Shatter her?

>implying white didn't just atomize her gem with her heel as soon as they warped back to homeworld