How come a this point in the series, he became he new pet of the writers who actively hate working on the show?

How come a this point in the series, he became he new pet of the writers who actively hate working on the show?

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It was kinda ironic that a serial rapist is the one calling everyone out all the time. He even fucked one of his friends wives and sexually assaulted the other 2 spouses.

I only need to repeat what he actually says to explain why people should hate Brian. Quagmire may be a horny bastard but the difference between him and Brian is that Brian betrayed Peter and still does to this day, then he walks around all oh I'm such a good liberal guy. The earlier seasons had him perfect but now this show is a god damn husk of it's former self.

>Quagmire may be a horny bastard
He's a serial rapist who has tried many times to fuck Peter's wife and on one occasion his daughter.
Quagmire has no moral high ground against Brian.

Quagmire isn't sanctimonious at least.

That makes no sense considering Quagmire has gone after Peter's wife a bunch.

I think the real "message" they're trying to send by using Quagmire is that even if you do bad shit or are an asshole, if you at least know it, you're in a better spot than assholes who try to pretend like they're not assholes.

I fucking hate this mindset, knowing you are an asshole makes no difference. In fact, I think the people who know they are an ass and still act like one are worse because they try to justify their shitty behavior as being slightly ok because they are aware of it.

Waiting for the metoo ep

>knowing you are an asshole makes no difference

I used to think this as well but I've recently changed my stance on it because yeah they're still assholes, but the first step to working on your problems is acknowledging them, so that means they're one step closer to possible redemption than people who don't even realize they have an issue.

It also shows they have stronger critical thinking skills than people who can't take a step back and realize they're assholes.

Honestly, how is that better?

quagmire doesnt deny who he is

Still a serial rapist, who knowingly spreads STDs

Not denying he's a rapist doesn't make him less of one.

The problem is that Quagmire started doing it to EVERYONE, specially Peter, and Peter usually fuck up because he's clinically retarded and need people to warn him about his mistakes, Quagmire is a dangerous rapist that drugged, raped and then impregnated dozens of women, he's basically a villain at this point.

He's become the other extreme, just "OH I SEES IT LIKES I CALLS IT, ya I'm bad but at least I know it"
That's no better than being apiece of shit but acting better than everyone

Guys, you're thinking about it wrong.

If you have a dishonest rapist, that's two bad things, dishonest and rapist.

If you have an honest rapist though, that is only one bad thing, therefore the latter is "better" than the former.

A rapist is a rapist.
Whether they're honest about it or not means little to me.

>"I may sexually harass women in the same way that Brian does."
>"But at least I'm honest about it."

That doesn't make it right.

And Quagmire isn't even honest about it. Look at how many roofie jokes he's been involved in. Or that time he purportedly turned his home into a hurricane shelter so he could have sex with the women who came in. Or that time he tricked Joe into letting him fuck Bonnie. Or that time he pretended to like Meg just because he wanted to fuck her after she turned 18.

>Brian: sexually assaulted Lois 2 times, raped a non sapient dog
>Quagmire: raped dozens if not hundreds of women,fucked dead bodies, sexually assaulted minors.Murdered his sister brother, deadbeat father for dozens of kids

Brian is an asshole and minor criminal, Quagmire is an extremely dangerous maniac.

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I heard they were originally going to use Cleveland for the rant instead. Probably would've been better and made more sense.

With Cleveland it would've at least made sense because Cleveland never did anything too bad until his show.

Cleveland is too nice for that, Joe is the only one that makes sense.

What it means to you is irrelevant.

>raped a non sapient dog
When did he rape a dog?

Both Quagmire and Brian are awful people, but Quagmire has Brian beat in terms of overall shittiness given that he's a serial rapist that knowingly spreads various STDs. Just because you acknowledge you're a shithead does not absolve you of being a shithead, if anything it's worse because you know full well your actions are shitty, but you do it anyway. It's in the same vein as people who are "keeping it real" as an excuse to act like a twat, before someone hauls off and punches them in the neck.

It's certainly relevant to a court of law

The episode where Joe got back his legs made it pretty clear that he was also a fairly shitty person, not nearly as bad as say Peter or Quagmire, but definitely bad enough that he had a fat enough head to neglect his wife.

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She was into him tho

>Is a serial abductor and rapist
>But I work in a soup kitchen sometimes

His whole rant was bullshit. Brian's an asshole but Quagmire is far worse.

Intersectional douchebaggery. Quagmire is a sexual abuser, Brian is an emotional abuser. They both use people to satisfy themselves and still find a way to sleep at night.

Quagmire is basically an animated version of one of the long time writers and eventually they just turned the character into him.

Quagmire has tried to fuck Lois on numerous occasions.

It's a shame Quagmire has to keep being reduced to almost nothing but rape jokes cause the few times they do bother to branch out of that he winds up being a genuinely intersting charactet,l;.'
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You guys know...
that they're cartoon characters, right?
Why are you all getting so worked up about his imaginary crimes against humanity? What matters is entertainment value. The dog isn't funny. Not that Quagmire really is either, but at least he doesn't preach.

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>Yeah he's a rapist BUT HE'S HONEST

>Not that Quagmire really is either, but at least he doesn't preach.
He doesn't preach but he always whinges which is worse

That's giving them the benefit of the doubt. Most people who know they're assholes revel in it, with them spitting out "I know I'm an asshole" as a defense. If you act like an asshole and know you are, you're a far bigger piece of shit than the oblivious fuckstick thinking they're doing good.

"Oh Judge, I know I'm in court for raping that woman, but did you know that I also fucked her daughter after drugging her at a party?"

"OOH WELL SINCE YOU'RE BEING HONEST I GUESS I CAN GIVE YOU ARE WARNING"

You guys are so bad at logic, like come on, what are you doing.

Problem is that people like Quagmire are simply fine with being pricks and have no interest in changing so that puts us back at square 1.

It's a cartoon but it's at least one where you can have conversations about it.

You won't see these kinds of characters on Ducktales, so... cartoon or not, it's either a debate about Quagmire's lecture or we can all devolve back to "Top 10 Peter Moments".

No it's not square one.
Because they can still decide to change.
People oblivious can't decide to change until they realize they have a problem.

That is true, if someone so much as coughs in his general direction he frowns and moans about it.

user, if two people took a shit on your bed and one of them told you that they were going to do that before they did, does that make you less angry about the fact that you need to clean up two turds?

It's not about your reaction, dipshit.

It’s about the same result, no one is talking about a reaction

It's not about the result either lol.
God you are so fucking stupid.

That honestly seemed really out of character for Joe and a one-off episode thing. It's shown multiple times in other episodes that Joe is usually one of the only decent people left in the show and values his friends and relationship with Bonnie, even though Peter takes a dump on him at every opportunity and Bonnie hates being with him.

Brian is a cute funny viewer avatar. It doesn't matter if he's the biggest douche on the planet, if he's funny.

Which he is.

Quagmire is just some #MeToo guy with a pelvis for a chin.

Could Steven redeem him?

You're splitting hairs.

Only through a song

I'm trying to remember roughly when in the show Joe got his legs back, because if it was early show when everyone had relatively healthy relationships then yeah he's a dick for leaving Bonnie, if it's modern everyone hates everyone Family Guy where Bonnie is hoping for his death, cheating, and sometimes openly plotting his murder then yeah I'd say leaving her would be okay.