What's the Evangelion of western cartoons?

But EVA is also shit.

How do you define "Evangelion"?

A show with giant robots?
A show with Christianity?
A show with a weird ending?

All 3?

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Misato best girl
asukafags gtfo

steven universe
both are overrated as shit

fpbp

enjoyable and decent, yet overhyped and filled to the brim with allegories and references to babbys first two weeks of intro to psychology course

thought i was the only one

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lol

>A show with Christianity?
If you replace 'christianity' with 'meaningless symbolism that looks cool/vaguely important', then we can conclude that Star Vs is the Evangelion of western cartoons.

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Moral Orel?

maybe young justice especially with outsiders trying to be Deep

Based on depth and worldwide popularity, I'd say Adventure Time

I almost mentioned it earlier in the thread, Weisman shows are a contender for being Eva-like but there's something missing there from YJ being a better comparison.

Watchmen.

As an advice for anyone who didn't enjoy the anime, I recommend you to read the manga.

pretty accurate for eva in general and discussions about the show

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A Scanner Darkly, maybe. I don't know. There aren't many existential Western animated works. I can only think of live-action things like Evangelion.

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That might as well be live action.

t. Academy Voter

No faggot I mean A Scanner Darkly is literally a live action film with filters up the whazoo,

HiX-Men

No one ever talks about the manga user.

And am I supposed to take that factor over how good the actual material is?

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Unironically this. It has plenty of 2deep4U psychological breakdowns

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Based

Evangelion

I don't think that cartoons really have an equivalent. Because of how the west treats cartoons, there really can't be one.

Evangelion was a landmark show that came at just the right time, hit a largely untapped cultural moment, and did so in such a way that for better or for worse people have been talking about it nonstop ever since. It triggered a wave of imitators trying to ride its coat tails, changed how a lot of previously established anime tropes got used and invented a couple new ones. You can basically write a college essay on just the last 5 minutes of the movie and what it means.
Love it or hate it, its about as immediately recognizeable and known there as Star Wars is for us.

Western cartoons don't have anything that approaches that, because for us to have an equivalent show the west would have to give way more of a shit about cartoons in general in the first place. No western cartoon has that sort of cultural impact because our culture doesn't give enough of a shit about cartoons to care.

You could maybe argue that Watchmen was something similar for comics, but if we limit ourselves specific to cartoons we got nothing. Even our most memorable cartoons (probably one of the disney movies) are basically fluff. Which doesn't mean that we don't have good cartoons too, but none of them have the sort of impact and following needed to compare.

Unironically Homestuck.

The big difference is that Watchmen is actually good.

Yes.

Eva is a more personal story than Watchmen is. Watchmen was mostly noteworthy for how atypical it was for the genre and portraying superheroes in a very different way, but its largely a plot-driven story.

Evangelion is a very character focused story, to the point that its success resulted in a fundamental shift in how anime marketed its characters as a product to audiences. But this also means that if the characters don't resonate with you, you are going to find Evangelion immensely frustrating or uninteresting. Anyone who watches Eva purely for the robot fights is going to be frustrated by everything else in the way, because this isn't a Mazinger or Gundam sort of show.

Really shouldn't count as a cartoon.

there is only one and it is
the MAXX

Well, better I get more people to read it, then.

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>Landmark show at just the right time
>Untapped cultural moment
>Talking about it nonstop ever since
>Wave of imitators
>Changed previously established styles/animation tropes and invented new ones.
The closest thing I could think of was Adventure Time. Virtually every cartoon these days apes its style and humor.

Unironically this

It's not filters, it's purely animated with rotoscoping.

First you have to define what is Evangelion to Anime.

Don't mine me, I'm just stealing the end of Evangelion and doing better with more depth.

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Watchmen.

A show that changed the modern cartoon landscape. A lot of people shit on the edgy psychology of the characters and the vapid Christian imagery, but when Eva came out, it was revolutionary. Revolutionary in what terms? Well, in several ways that could very well have a book written on the subject.

In short, Eva changed anime forever and the timeline of anime history could very well be viewed as pre and post Eva. What western cartoon has done this?

Salad Fingers.

>What western cartoon has done this?
Adventure Time, South Park

Sounds about right

Yes, the characters of Eva do not resonate with me at all.
>largely a plot-driven story
About half of the book is character-focused. Watchmen is mostly noteworthy for its sheer density.

Invader ZIM

Best grill 20 years running. Stay mad dollfags.

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If you actually think the manga is better you are a complete and utter irredeemable pleb.

Care to explain why exactly it is inferior to the original series?

The manga puts the author's waifu before the themes of the story.

It leans heavily into Reifaggotry, largely missing the point that Asuka's entire character and backstory is built as a mirror for Shinji's situation, but where Shinji focused the blame inward Asuka projected the blame outward. There's a reason why Rei virtually stops interacting with the main cast after Asuka shows up in the show, and why End of Evangelion begins and ends with Asuka and Shinji.

Giving Rei some more character development isn't a bad idea in itself, but the manga takes that focus too far and its to the detriment of the overall story.

Family Guy changed adult cartoons for the worst.

Wrong

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Obviously it's BTAS

Something made by Ralph Bakshi

youtube.com/watch?v=TE9mENS9i4c

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Unironically Ren & Stimpy.

youtu.be/otZL-EfgrG4?t=119

go to 1:59

>cartoon
>comics
ret

nice panties

what did evangelion even do?

don't say 2deconstruct the genre", that's a fucking lie.

Do you mean in the show itself, or the effect it had on the industry?

based af

Probably.

the show, who cares about the anime industry? it's finished.
if evangelion bolstered the prospect of shoving waifufaggotry into everything, then yeah, it can fuck off.

>it's finished.

I can't even imagine how deluded you would have to be to think that an industry that rolls out more content than a single season than american animation does in a whole year is 'finished'.

Unironically Steven Universe. Both are about 14 year old boys having existential crises about their mothers.

*rotoscopes in your path*
what do?

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What are the definining traits for being "evangelion"? Is it being a deconstruction? using Christian iconography? Or being a horny mech show with teenagers? Catagorize what qualities you're trying to compare against.

the time they slave away on moeblobs would've been better spent in fire drills.

lol

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nerd's first waifubait anime

Symbiotic Titan.

Massively popular, ""intellectual"", trend setter, actually pretty good even if over hyped.

My vote would be for Adventure Time.

Japan is retarded for not mandating separate entrances for emergencies and thinking that complicated doorknobs to rooftops are safer than easy-access because somehow they stop suicides.

overrated

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I'll use that trick that mother taught me while you weren't around.

>tfw you try to stop people from killing themselves and end up killing them

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The only western cartoon with comparable reach, depth, lasting effect on the industry and it's future would have to be Batman The Animated Series. Everything from tropes to imitators to raising the bar of the mediun exponantially at it's time of existence are all similarities the two shows share.

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Damn, this board is cucked.

liking le useless background character doesn't make you unique even if she is kinda cute

I'm going with Adventure Time too. Though Finn is the polar opposite of Shinji.

Easily

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Stop with that meme.
But i'm always comparing Zuko with Shinji

That one Garfield strip where Garfield wakes up in an abandoned house