Art Spiegelman of Maus fame withdrew his introduction to a Folio Society collection of golden-age Marvel comics...

>Art Spiegelman of Maus fame withdrew his introduction to a Folio Society collection of golden-age Marvel comics, because Marvel objected to the overly ‘political’ sentence ‘In today’s all too real world, Captain America’s most nefarious villain, the Red Skull, is alive on screen and an Orange Skull haunts America.’ (Guardian, 16 August)
theguardian.com/books/2019/aug/16/art-spiegelmans-marvel-essay-refused-publication-for-orange-skull-trump-dig

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It feels like Red Skull is more used as a figure of evil than an actual character.

Well yes, he was created initially to be yet another Nazi for Cap to punch.

Why are Jews such scummy fucks with victim mentalities. He couldn't shut the fuck up about it, right?

Guys, pack it up. We have dinosaurs and aliens and what not on the big screen. We live in an age of dinosaurs and aliens.

Is Maus any good?

You're shitting me, right?
Yes. Yes, it's good. You going to ask if Eisner's any good next?

It's alright. Just alright.

Sorry, Art. I was just asking

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>/pol/drones and frogposters shitposting Art Goddamn Spiegelman
This has to be a joke.

Tom King’s Batman won an Eisner. It’s nothing but a jack each other off reward.

calm down schizo

RENT FREE

>Marvel gets an Eisner
>Ladderbro celebrates

Laying it on a bit thick there. I'm a leftwing Trump-hater but give me a goddamn break, he's no Red Skull. An introduction like that would date it as badly as all those 80s comics introductions comparing their authoritarian villain to Margaret Thatcher or Reagan, it's such an empty and meaningless comparison and it dumbs down discourse. If you can't articulate what's wrong with someone without drawing a comparison to an extreme Nazi comic book villain then you probably don't have anything worthwhile to say to begin with.

>Maus gained completely unwarranted popularity because retarded librarians think it's the only comic not about strippers punching each other
>retards who have bought this narrative treat him like he's Moebius or Ware
Please fuck off

Ladderbro loves King’s Batman tho. Because King’s Batman makes Batman fans mad.

Pretty sure he meant the artist not the award

Not an Eisner you summerfag, Will Eisner the creator

>Marvel objects to that but allows MODONALD TRUMP?

Sure you do, Ladderbro.

Shh, let him stay obsessed.

ORANGE
MAN
BAD

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Because that was created by some Marvel hack, not by a real creator like Spiegelman.

Take it easy!

Yeah King’s Batman is a great comic. I love how pussy Batman is because that’s true to the character.

The art fucking sucks.
But id say its worth a read.
Probably overrated.

>NOT MUH
Ah, classic memes.

get fucked, ratman

I love it because it makes Batman fans mad. Give me more of Bruce abusing his sons please. That’s some good shit. I love DC. Please keep King on Batman

He's not red skull, but he is a white nationalist and his rhetoric has echoes of fascism. Plus, ya know, concentration camps within our borders.

depends on how you feel about concentration camp stories
i think the part set during WWII is better than the parts in present-day

As if that's a recent development.

thanks, rachel maddow

I've read it. It's excellent just to hear a secondhand version of things, but the art is passe and I don't care about looking into any of his other works.

orange man

Why is he so based?

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Politics is a poisonous virus, spreading and infecting everything it touches with hate and tribalism. I wouldn't want it my comics either.

That's right, but what does comparing him to Red Skull add to the conversation? Does it make it easier to understand Trump by comparing him to a bad guy that Captain America fights? The real world is complex and it's a comparison that reduces it to a cartoon. The reasons for how something like concentration camps or white nationalism can take root are worth exploring and saying "y'know, like red skull!" is a debasement of discourse.

>NO DONT LISTEN TOO HIM! HIS POLITICS DONT AGREE WITH MINE SO THAT MEANS HE IS WRONG!!!

>DC is better than Marvel
Well, duh.

>concentration camps within our borders

I always knew FDR was a Nazi

Casualness is cancer.

>librarians think it's the only comic not about strippers punching each other
Weirdly true. Normies are strange

Why democrats think Trump is bad? even if he's a bad president, he will not damage USA, they are a fucking first world country!! I keep seeing idiots "resisting" him as if he were a dictator in a third world country or something like that! fucking idiots!

That was at least before he won.

>Why democrats think Trump is bad?
It's Schrodinger's President.
He simultaneously does tons of shit that's completely destroying our country, but also does absolutely nothing because he spends all his time golfing.

>comics were never political
Why are you on Yea Forums if you don't read comics?

is saying i don't want these paint-swilling antifa faggots politics in mainstream comics too much?

>antifa faggot
Like Jack Kirby?

So you fucking Americans need to apologize like, right fucking now.

Why in the flying fuck are you not announcing that Trump is building giant robots and arming your troops with fucking lasers?!

If you'd told me that I would get my fat ass in shape and start the process to move to your country so I can enlist in your armed forces.

>I don't want my comics to be against fascism
Okay no more Captain America

Well, he wants to create a Space Force...

I'm pretty sure Jack Kirby wouldn't approve of your violent fascist blackshirts.

This. The reason we have nazis again is because we've portrayed them as the ultimate evil, a one-time nightmare that we've woken from. It does basically nothing to understand why someone gets caught up in those beliefs or how to deprogram them.

By not doing anything, he allows problems that don't concern him to get worse. Furthermore, he surrounds himself with fucks like Barr and Miller that jerk off to human misery, and he basically lets them do whatever they want as long as he feels like he's being given proper deference.

I gotta admit the theme song for it is pretty catchy
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They're nazis and /pol/drones, they don't respect or value art outside of what they see as supporting their narrative.
most of them probably don't even know who this guy is.

>antifa are the real fascists!!!
Pathetic.
Reevaluate your life if you're offended by people being against fascism.

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fuck the both of you

Die mad

Dilate.

>Reevaluate your life if you're offended by people being against fascism.
I'm actually against literal terrorists assaulting completely normal citizens in the streets.
Allowing that to go unpunished is how you get actual, real, unironic fascism to deal with you retards.

I don't know what made me laugh hardest
>marvel #1000
>80th anniversary
>Spiegelman getting told to fuck off
>Mark Waid getting told to fuck off

it's people like you that make me glad to live in a stand-your-ground state and to own a gun

A couple cars and windows getting smashed is not and will NEVER be the equivalent of ramming your car into a crowd of protestors, or slaughtering 50 Muslims worshipping at a mosque, 11 Jewish people at a synagogue and 69 teenagers at a fucking camp.

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>A couple cars and windows getting smashed
Literally a few dozen of you retards were arrested yesterday for assaulting people in Boston.
The same way you were assaulting people in Portland.
The same way you were assaulting people in Berkley.

I live in a stand your ground state and own several guns, and I also spend my weekends teaching members of marginalized communities how to shoot.

uniformed leftists that attack people who disagree with them about economic and political matters.

oh, how ever could people be confused.

also, i know people will fire back with the nazis being right wing thing but literally socialists, but nationalists rather than modern socialists being globalists.

Do something, coward.

just report the bastard.
Denying a legally recognized terrorist is against US law.

Is it okay to be both against acts of domestic terrorism and vandalism/violent assaults against private citizens exercising their rights regardless of what political party any of these people belong to?

Throwing milkshakes at people is the equivalent of slaughtering innocents, got it.

Bruh are you drunk? That post was incoherent as fuck.

>Mark Waid getting told to fuck off
What did he do this time?

Are you two going to start a war against each other?

The fact that our nation did shameful things in the past shouldn't prevent us from working against the shameful things in our present.

>What did he do this time?
he tried making this huge "fuck you, america" speech for the comic, but got told to rewrite

And judging every action by modern standards is bullshit.

It's not okay

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exactly, like letting these antifa faggots run loose

Post the one of him realizing niggers are self-destructive savages and they need to shape themselves up before any real change happens.

The guys outlook changed throughout the years like many a leaders dose

>left-wing radicals cause property damage and a few injuries
>right-wing radicals go on shooting sprees and murder people
>BOTH SIDES ARE THE SAME
Stop worrying so much about the antifa when the fa are the ones killing people.

I guarantee I'm a better shot than any of those faggy "marginalized communities" he's got

LITERALLY had an antifa mass shooting you stupid fucking spammer.

Seriously, he is denying terrorists. Breaking US law. Do not let this cunt go unreported for it

You're like the guys that say we shouldn't knock the founding fathers for not outlawing slavery because slavery was the norm at the time. Spoiler alert, abolitionists existed back then too. Slavery was alway bad.
Concentration camps were always bad.

Are you saying Marvel kept him from making a stupid cringe segway about a topical unrelated topic etched in a collection that would be seen and remembered years after whatever his gripe is has long passed? That Marvel has editors that kept him from embarassing himself?

That Marvel has editors?

What a cuck.

both are scum and both don't deserve to be on the streets
I'm not saying it's a 1:1, but I am saying that both need a good pistol whip to the eyes

>Plus, ya know, concentration camps within our borders.

As opposed the last few presidents who had them outside our borders.

So you're going to shoot them? Oh boy, I knew you were a terrorist.

T.Leftypolcuck

Antifa is in the streets because the fa is in office. Fa is the bigger thread and deserves more of your attention.

Worth taking a look at but not nearly as good as some have made it out to be

No and no
Slavery, for as awful as it is, got shit done and helped the nation industrialize. The north got its start on textile industry fed from southern cotton.
Which is why alot of the south was pissed off when the north suddenly turned VERY against it.

Also, it was the idea slavery was on the way out even in the founders time. That the nigs would be sent back to africa at some point. The cotton gin gave slavery the last hurrah before industrialization would have killed it, but no the north had to fucking force the issue continually often breaking the house gag order and doing petty shit like fucking with the western state borders over it.

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