Was romance really the best choice of genre for the Spider-Verse sequel?

Yeah, I don't think anyone would mind as much if it was Peter x Miles instead of Gwen

Yeah, but without someone else co-leading so it's easier to focus on her herself, and not just the relationship.

They have the "if you stay in another dimension you die " rule. So no romance between the heroes

I kind of expect it to not be addressed.

With all the hoops they jumped through to bring them together so far, the rule seems like the last thing that would stop them. They already broke it in the first one with Gwen arriving early and no one cared.

That'd be really cool. I'd like to see it play out like Josef K's advances to women in the trial.

>fucking an alternate reality version of yourself
just sounds weird

If she wasn’t named Gwen Stacy I wouldn’t actively hate it

Yes, I’m not an incel that gets triggered by fictional characters falling in love.

It would be easy to introduce a neutral zone of sorts between dimensions that anyone can stay in safely, there was one In the comics that became home for all the spiders whose homes were destroyed or otherwise left uninhabitable

I have nothing against interracial relationships but you have to admit that giving Gwen to Miles is a creepy decision that pushes the "Miles gets Peter's hand-me-downs" angle a bit too far

Yeah that sucks. I think part of the problem is pretty much everyone is Peter Parker/Spider-Man fan first and not a Miles fan first. So a lot of people tend to see him (rightfully so) under the shadow of Peter and just a gimmick and treat him as such and then continue the cycle ect

Only if it is black guy and white slut romance.

Yeah but what else can you do with the whole deal with this is SPIDER-PERSONS. I'd be nice to pop idk Kamala for Miles, but no capes apart from spiders are showing upu

Since they confirmed a time-skip for the sequel recently, maybe pair him with Peni? Silk? A new Spider-Girl that's not Gwen? One of his non-superpowered gfs from the comics? A new non-superpowered gfs made for the movie? Don't focus on romance at all? Focus on an entirely new cast of Spiders? They have plenty of options.

You can’t do that now sadly enough, with Sony keep spidey seperate that couldn’t fly though Miles has bombshell if you want to pair him with s powered white chick. Though I honestly want them to try something with Mattie Franklin though she’s been dead for a while saddly

>rent free

I'm sure that having a teenage Gwen from another universe shack up with middle age Peter like some people want is much less creepy than a couple of teenagers showing interest in each other.

>maybe pair him with Peni? Silk?
Those options are still fucking terrible

>Mattie Franklin
Pair him with girl who started out trying to bang Peter?
I thought the point was to not give him Peter's sloppy seconds

>I'm sure that having a teenage Gwen from another universe shack up with middle age Peter
Good work strawmanning.

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>i'm going to really, really force my opinion to show that thing is bad!
Damn you showed me!

>Mattie Franklin
>Trying to fuck Peter

You sure you didn't mix her up with Silk? She's not the whore, she's the eight-armed junkie.

So still gonna strawman then.
Because the people who have a problem with putting miles with gwen don't want a middle aged Peter fucking a teenaged Gwen.

No one said anything about pairing Peter and Gwen, although if you wanted to do that you could age her up, age him down, or bring in a Peter that's her age (e.g. Ultimate). However aging Gwen down and breaking the multiverse rules the movie itself laid out just to bring her closer to Miles is teetering on creepy.

>You sure you didn't mix her up with Silk?
No.

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Keep sidestepping the obvious issue some people have. "Sloppy seconds" kind of loses its meaning when it's a completely different person. Even more so when that person is being paired with someone their age and show interest in. We all know why you have a problem with it and can't come up with an actual excuse. "Oh it's creepy!" Riiiiiiight.

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No one cares avatar fag

Ah it's you, now I regret I even bothered replying

Don't worry, you won't see me in the next "no race mixing allowed" thread.

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Reminder she's legally his niece.

Relationships between people have been a part of every single Spider-man story ever told, with romance being a part of 2/3rds of the print stories and a major pillar of every single Spider-man film ever made. Why would you suddenly expect an aspect that is essential to the mythos of Spider-man to not be explored?
obviously
>5000 threads later and still pushing that 616 Gwen and 65 Gwen are the same.
Silk's backstory is closely tied to Parker's. If people wouldn't be ok with some 15+ year age gap between Peter and Gwen, what makes you think it would be ok to have it between Miles and Cindy? Peni would be fine.

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>5000 threads later and still pushing that 616 Gwen and 65 Gwen are the same.
5001 threads later and you're still missing the long
>If people wouldn't be ok with some 15+ year age gap between Peter and Gwen, what makes you think it would be ok to have it between Miles and Cindy?
There's going to be a timeskip, or they could just change her age like they did with Gwen, or bring one in from a universe where she's Miles' age.

>a major pillar of every single Spider-man film ever made
TASM2 is pretty much the only one where this is true, the rest have it as a side-plot

>There's going to be a timeskip, or they could just change her age like they did with Gwen, or bring one in from a universe where she's Miles' age.
Or stop giving miles Peter's sloppy seconds and invent him his own dumb love interests.
If even his girlfriends are gonna be hand me downs from Peter what's even the point of miles existing?

>Peter and Mattie count as incest
Fuck that's hot.

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based

Spider-man
-Driving force for Peter monetize his powers is to impress MJ
-MJ used by Osborn to draw Parker into a trap.
-Peter keeps MJ at a distance despite his own wishes because of his responsibility
Spider-man 2
-Peter's missing powers allows him to be more present in MJ's life
-Parker confesses what MJ always meant to him and she ditches her own wedding to be with Pete.
Spider-man 3
-High tension caused by the symbiote's actions makes a bit of a rift between Peter and MJ, with Parker actually punching her in the face.
-The ring being rather significant which Pete was going to use to propose.
The Amazing Spider-man
-Peter stalking Gwen throughout the film
-The promise made to the dying captain which Peter eventually breaks
Homecoming
-Most of the film is Peter attempting to impress Liz Alan.
Far From Home
-Most of the film is Peter trying to become closer to MJ.

These are some rather large "side plots"

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Gwen is Mile's own love interest. Or He is hers. No matter how many posts you make about this "meta-narrative" you keep trying to push, that fact will never change.

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>Gwen is Mile's own love interest
No she isn't retard.
You do this every thread and it gets old every time

Movie yes.
But comics are keeping miles and gwen apart, which it is strange.

Not what's strange is the movie pairing Gwen with miles and making unnecessary plot holes to do so.

Really trying to wrap my head around the "sloppy seconds" argument given that this Gwen Stacy isn't 616 Peter's Gwen Stacy. Are you talking about Lizard Peter?

What are the plot holes?

There's a difference between being paired together once for a movie by writers with 0 ties to Marvel, and literately being designed to be someone's love interest. In this case 616 Gwen was made to be Peter's love interest, and 65 Gwen was made to be her own thing.

The issue isn't with sloppy seconds you sperg. The issue is that Miles is basically just Peter Parker: Black edition. 99% same villains, 99% same powers, 99% same supporting cast and 100% same love interest

We don't know it'll be romance yet.

Which they didn't anything with it. Her universe is getting sideline by 616 universe.

They said it would be as early as the release of the first one, user. It's going to be focused more on Miles and Gwens relationship, which by what they were hinting at in the first one, will be romantic in nature.

A lot of these arguments sound like dog whistles by people who think they're being successful in masking that they're dog whistles. Which is a weird thing on Yea Forums, because instead of saying shit like
>I have nothing against interracial relationships, BUT...
>Peter's hand me downs
>plot holes
And all this other bullshit, you know you can just say, I DON'T FUCKING LIKE SEEING NIGGERS, ESPECIALLY NOT WITH WHITE WOMEN

GWEN STACY IS WHITE AND THE PROPERTY OF PETER

I ACTUALLY DON'T CARE IF IT'S A SEPARATE UNIVERSE VERSION, NIGGERS AND BISCUITS

Like, why are you self-censoring yourselves? This isn't twitter or plebbit.

Probably not.
We're still dealing with the /pol/ leakage.
I'm hoping the sequel doesn't focus much on romance, but if it does I don't really care who pairs up as long as the action is good.

spotted the nigger

See, there you go. It's okay to say nigger on Yea Forums, or even that you hate niggers on Yea Forums. Trying to mask racist or sexist criticism under the guise of legitimate reasons doesn't make sense here, especially when those reasons are fucking flimsy. Acting like this is a Quartering video or some shit.

Because they know most people with brains no longer give that shit much attention.
We just report and move on.
So they still want to be validated so they use dog whistles to say what we know they really mean in hops of getting valid engagement.
Honestly I don't know why they come here, they'd get nothing but nodding heads and agreement over at /pol/.
I'm more worried they forget we came for spider action and not romance, so any deranged nazi shit is just getting ignored.

>come into thread expecting /pol/ stuff about the interracial relationship
>it's actually the anti anti interracial relationship fags who start up first
Yea Forums is a silly place

I'm ok wit them hooking up, but I really hope they don't forget to focus on other stuff.
Romance as a genre really annoys me half the time.

there's literally a nog mod here on Yea Forums. if he's awake i'm getting banned.

If the jannies banned everyone for saying nigger there would literally be no one left on Yea Forums. Are you honestly worried because what you really want to say is "fuck coalburners," so you're instead trying to come up with reasons why you don't want to see Gwen Stacy getting blacked?

Nice

Yes she is.
Nothing like Parker.
Because then they would just sound crazy and everyone would ignore the threads. At least this way people will sometimes take the bait while they desperately try to convince people that 2+2=5.

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Could easily be handwaved as a harmful side effect of the collider in the 1st movie.

>, I DON'T FUCKING LIKE SEEING NIGGERS,
I'm black so take that shit elsewhere Gwen with miles is shit.
Was shit when they tried in the comics and shit in the movie.

Covering your ears and going la la la is not an argument

>Nothing like Parker.
Now you're just lying.
Probably never read the fucking comics to begin with.

Best way to push your ideology.

>What are the plot holes?
Why is Gwen around a week earlier?
Why did her Spider sense tell her to go to miles school when he didn't even have his powers yet?
Why did she not try to talking to Peter when he was alive?
What was she doing at Alchemix?
How did she know to be at Alchemix?
Why does she never react to seeing multiple versions of Peter Parker walking around alive with powers when the death of her Peter allegedly traumatized her so much?

Irony.
With his history or personality? No he isn't.
But I suppose you'd think 2 co-workers were exactly the same because both of them didn't shoot up their office when they walked into work.

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nah but it's the easiest.

You're not even making arguments at this point you're saying it isn't because you say so.

Mattie did the same thing Miles did and replaced peter as spider-man but I don’t think she ever could’ve been considered a love interest. Maybe she had something unrequited for him but I honestly can’t think of any instance where I’d call her peters “sloppy seconds”. While I do think it’s important that Miles gets his own cast (and I will reiterate my own personal distaste for him) there are a lot of disused characters a concepts in the franchise and despite the fact that I don’t want Miles to over write the peter Gwen connection doesn’t mean you should cut him out from using other parts entirely

Miles with Gwen is stupid because it limits both of the characters
Who cares about giving characters their own supporting casts or stories
Just ship them together before they've done anything

>Mattie did the same thing Miles did and replaced peter as spider-man
No she didn't.

She impersonated him, probably to tick off some reverse trap fetish that Byrne had, but I doubt the intention was for her to outright replace him.

Impersonating him is not even nearly the same thing though.

>watch Into the Spider-verse for the first time just recently
>miss out on the multiple threads discussing the movie
>just in time for shitposting about Gwen and Miles
This sucks man.

You again!? Holy shit you worthless cuck. Stop forcing this ship on us. It's never going to happen. Hell, they ended it in the comics and i will end in the sequel to

Stop sayin bullshi because you say so. It aint's happening

She picked up the name spiderman after the whole Norman returning shenanigans that caused peter to briefly retire. After she fucked up enough forcing him to come back she picked up the mantle of spider woman. I just think she’s a good character with an interesting power set, she didn’t deserve to die and she certainly didn’t deserve bendis turning her into a crack whore. But despite that I think she’d pair well with Miles and that connection could allow him to have a relationship with JJJ outside of peter or the bugle

at least spider-verse is cool. I'm not expecting anything good to come out of it

I want them to fuck

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I'm not seeing the point in pairing Mattie with miles just so he can have a connection to another character of Peters.

That'd be nice.

Also a Spider-Man Noir movie.

I was kind of hoping for less multiverse stuff so that this Miles (who I actually like) can build up his own supporting cast and move even further away from Peter’s shadow.

Also I just never liked Gwen, any Gwen. Spider-Gwen is a shit idea with an above average design but her solo got old fast. Especially with some of creative team seemingly being on the MJ hate train while insisting that they weren’t.

That, and the movie version of Gwen-65 isn’t all that interesting either beyond being kinda cool.

I mean, I kind of get it, but it's not like they brought Gwen Stacy's zombified corpse back to life and hooked her up with Miles.

>I'm black
Sure you are
>characters are limited when romantically inclined
Are you really going to say this when shipping teammates in comic books have been a thing since for-fucking-ever? Jean and Scott have been a thing since they appeared and they're still writing new stories about them since 1963. This is the loudest dog whistle of them all.

Because that gives them cause to continue the relationship under the thought it’s a “righteous cause” user, didn’t you see that entire episode of South Park?

I don’t want the pairing pushed because Gwen works better as a dead character than as another stronk womyn archetype. There are plenty of characters that Miles could be paired with but bendis chose that for the free advertising. Seriously the ONLY miles threads that hit bump limit are the ones bitching about him or his relationship with Gwen. Fuck and now there are dudes commissioning cuck art of Miles and MJ, when you go pointlessly hard like that user it just gets worse. I don’t have a problem with interracial relationships, but Miles and Gwen is literally cuck propaganda

>Sure you are
Ok be in denial.

>Jean and Scott
Jean and Scott aren't solo characters like miles and Gwen are with their own stories and supporting cast.

What makes a character a "stronk womyn archetype" versus a female character that's simply competent?

Being created during Marvel's "stronk womyn" phase

Not him, but that doesn't even work when Gwen's book portrayed her being a mess of a person who needs to get her life together.

Moving goalposts. The original assertion was that the ability to write stories about romantically-entangled characters was limited; now it's, "But your example was two people on a team, not solo characters." Nothing specifically prohibits solo characters from being able to have interesting storylines while still being in relationships. Relationships being a motivator or cause for strife and action are like 95% of Spider-Man.

In the movie she was shown to be more competent than peter despite the fact that he’s been doing it for two decades and she’s been at it for two years. She’s also shown to be more emotionally stable than peter despite the two of them basically being in the same situation (facing AU versions of loved ones they’ve wronged) a competent woman character is not inherently a Mary Sue (sue storm orroro Wonder Woman Mayday carol) but the current way a lot of writers try to build female characters is to make them look better than male characters rather than try to make them look good on their own

How many of Peter's lasting love interests have their own ongoing books?

All of them at this point

>I don't have a problem with interracial relationships, but Miles and Gwen is literally cuck propaganda
No, it's race-mixing propaganda, and you do have a problem with interracial relationships otherwise you wouldn't make it a point to say that over and over again. It's easy to tell you're the same guy saying that because you keep trying to assert it, but again, you're on Yea Forums. Just say you don't like seeing mud niggers breeding Aryan goddesses.

And for god's sakes, learn specificity in language. Calling everything "cuck" makes it easy for people to just ignore the word. It isn't cucking unless there's another male involved that's romantically involved or interested in Gwen, but is either forced or excited by watching her plowed by a black bull. Which isn't happening in this case, because Gwen's Peter is dead. This is just plain old race mixing. Nobody's being cucked here unless you're self-inserting that you somehow had a chance with Gwen, or are imprinting some other white female onto Gwen, and are therefore coming up with sad scenarios in your mind.

No. No it isn’t. The fact that spiderverse didn’t have OG Peter, Spiderman Noir, Spiderman 2099 and May Parker told me that they don’t want to make kino that will make bank.

We got to see more of Peter, and Peter's had more time to be sad about things than she has, and we can see that different spiderpeeps have different skills, so it's not a tragedy if the younger spider-person is a little more acrobatic.

And her problems with getting close to people were not played in a positive light.

See You're still shifting. Why don't you just say you don't like niggers with white women, homie? They're just niggers. You afraid of that nigger mod some user mentioned awhile back?

Spiderman Noir and Punisher Noir would both be successful. I hate how they made Peter a socialist in Noir but the whole story is great. Also I really enjoyed Punisher Noir I think it was done really well.

>Miles with Gwen is stupid because it limits both of the characters
Who cares about giving characters their own supporting casts or stories

Atleast miles getting his own villians. Gwen still is reusing Peter villians but with a twist.

Why is nobody going after spider gwen?

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Bendis is a LITERAL cuckold fetishist, he can't write his sick fantasies in full since they would never get past editorial, but he is doing the closest thing to "subtle" he can. He is the last person you should be giving the benefit of the doubt.

>the current way a lot of writers try to build female characters is to make them look better than male characters
This is an argument I'd really like to delve more into, because you honestly can't show ANYONE look good unless, by default, they're better than others. New characters have to solve something better than existing characters, or demonstrate some kind of prowess, that the existing characters can't do (even temporarily); otherwise, what was the point of introducing a new character? And it's also interesting to me that you say, "current way," yet this is the way female characters have been done for decades: often showing up and doing something that a male character is incapable of in that moment.

Let me rephrase then
How many of Peter's love interests interests had their comics series before meeting him, weren't introduced in his book and who's series don't count as spin offs from his?

>You afraid of that nigger mod some user mentioned awhile back?
I am black you retard

Peni is cute, and I want to do some seriously criminal shit with her, tax evasion, jaywalking, and the collecting rainwater for personal use.

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You do realize that Gwen was paired with Miles by a cuck fetishist who had the backing of an editor who knew it would piss off fans. This entire thing was made to make autists racist

Gwen sucks and miles sucks, change my mind. People only like miles for his suit, while his story is mehX10 and cannibalizing off of Peter. People only like Gwen for the costume while her story is slightly better while cannibalizing off of Spider-Man. Miggy and May>Miles and Gwen

Sure, but we're not talking about how Bendis sees it, we're talking about how everyone else sees it. Because if it's meant to be cuck PROPAGANDA, then propaganda should be clearly stated. If, say, they changed the story up so that Miles went hopping around other dimensions and Lizard Peter Parker were still alive, and Miles started making out with Gwen in front of him until he went crazy and THEN died, that'd be cuck propaganda. In this specific instance though it should just be seen as a jew plot to show how white women crave nigger dick. There's no one being cucked in that scenario though.

What way does it limit them? sounds like you're talking out your ass.
seething
Gwen's still dead. she hasn't gotten out the ground. She's still the motivational corpse you want her to be. Spider-Gwen and 616 Gwen still aren't the same. They weren't the same last thread or the 500 threads before. Stop mixing them up friend. People are going to assume you're going senile.

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You’re a pedo simple as that. Peni Parker was the worst part of that movie. Only weebs and pedos like her.

Absolutely based.

>Fuck and now there are dudes commissioning cuck art of Miles and MJ
I'm actually one of those people that are on board with Miles and MJ. I actually think they make much more sense in terms of personality and how they can engage with each others. Honestly, they're kind of a perfect fit

Dude. Stop being such a dick. The MilesXGwen pair was shit simply because it is shit. It blatant cuck propaganda at it's best because they wanted he popularity, and all written by a shitty writer with no plan what so ever. Interracial relationships is not a bad thing, butif you don't have anything that actually make sense or have any merit then it's poinless to begin with

You got a problem with race-mixing then that makes you a racist

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>collecting rainwater for personal use.

Wait, is that actually a crime?

>I'm actually one of those people that are on board with Miles and MJ. I actually think they make much more sense in terms of personality and how they can engage with each others. Honestly, they're kind of a perfect fit
Top cuck

>Honestly, they're kind of a perfect fit
Ok you're retarded then.

So you're either a self-hating nigger who got twisted with all these dog whistles, or you're a nigress that's mad and coming up with reasons why Miles and Gwen shouldn't be together. That one would make more sense, because shit like, "B-but Mary Jane doesn't have an ongoing series, so writers can't make Miles and Gwen a good story!" is the kind of dumb thinking I'd expect from someone like that.

>didn't like Sins Past
>didn't like Sitting In A Tree
>don't mind Miles x Bombshell
>it's all because I'm racist

You're joking by lumping tax evasion with harmless trivial crimes but tax evasion is no joke, it can get you in serious trouble

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You NEED to realize that nobody buys into your fucking "I'm cool with interracial relationships" shit bro, and trying to deflect suspicion with saying retard shit like "Miles x MJ" isn't throwing the dog off the bone. And you still don't understand what "cuck" means.

Enjoy your cuck propaganda simply because you think it signals your virtue better

I feel like if I was self-hating one of my favorite characters wouldn't be Static and I wouldn't be pissed at DC and Milestone for their inability to cooperate with each other so I can see him doing something besides being a background character in young justice.

In some states. Something to do with regulating prospectors or some shit.

None of them by virtue that they’re peters love interests and needed to be presented in his book to work as such.

You’re absolutely right that a tool of crating characters in comics is to allow a beloved character to either job or mess up in order to establish the character to audiences. I think my only “problem” is the way they introduced Gwen and how they established her relationship to peter, where Gwen to our Peter is a sign of his own failure Peter to Gwen is also a sign of (that) peters failure so on the whole the relationship never sat right with me. Though honestly how many female characters have the death of a man as a moment that defines their character? Because I can’t think of to many

I want to say that Monica ranbeux was not introduced in this manner she had her entire own adventure leading to the establishing of her powers (and name) then came to nyc looking for help when spidey fucked up in attacking her because the problem she came to solve set off his spider sense. The Characters competence and placement in her world were completely defined by her and not who she stood over at the end of an issue

>Ok with miles with MJ
>Suggesting miles has any sort of personality to be compatible with

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Don't care. Peni is cute, and I want to supply her with alcohol and nicotine products.

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Dude. You are seriously being a bitch here for not coming up with a good arguments and just constantly whine because you're trying to justify a forced cuck pairing with no real value or any long term benefit

There is nothing about this ship that would be considered good, and it doesn't matter if it's a different Gwen. This pairing really can't work based on not only the connection to Peter but how it just simply happen with no reason of why. You're just pasing them on just apperance and not personality. They don't even feel like real people when they're together

Seriously, this is an obsession you have with this. Eiher give a good a good reason why or you continue being a bitch like you have in every thread involving this

I know a forced relationship when I see it. MilesXGwen is exactly that

What makes them comparable in the slightest? Why can’t you choose other characters not previously romantically attached to peter? Are you the bitch that was bragging about commissioning the stories? You literally just make everything worse through this you sad mother fucker and ruined my enjoyment of the end of life story and the recent friendly neighborhood

Read the Saladin Ahmed run. It's so good, and Miles in that book actually has a personality

An best of all, he never once mention the Gwen relationship he had. The guy knows he's doing right

We're talking about the reason for its conception, and that was Bendis trying to spread his twisted fetish. He wasn't just satisfied with pairing the two of them together, he wrote a story in which they see a future timeline in which they are married, which resulted in the timeline being a utopia, which was then the reason the two got together, like I said, he's not very subtle.

Just because Bendis is jewish doesn't mean the story is part of some large insidious jew plot, but it is definitely and undeniably his personal effort to spread and normalize cuckoldry.

>Two people being romantically involved while either are not currently in a relationship is cuckoldry.
????
This is some actual cuck shit. and it also falls into the same problems that people trying to push Silk with Miles has which is an age gap over a decade. This shit only works in Doujins.

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I read it and nothing in it justified being retarded enough to ship MJ with miles.

>Silk and Miles doesn't work she's older by a decade
>Gwen and Miles works perfectly, she's older by a decade!
wew lad

Uhh Arcade?

I wish someone at Marvel would have the balls to off Bendis' Black Spider-Man.

>A 2 year difference in the comic, a 1.5 difference in the film.
Huh?

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Life has taken all my tomboys from me and now Sony wants to do it all over again.

We’ll see what happens with the split from Sony, I doubt Disney would be able to cancel amazing but I could see them ending Gwen and miles books to not give them any play

>if I say so it must be true
Oof!

The deal can be done again it hasn't been a month yet.

It just received an Hugo Award. Rejoice, my fellow spider-fans!

miles x mj would be cute as fuck. especially with the age difference.

her finally giving him a chance after he turns 18 would be adorable as fuck.

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Gwen x __MJ__

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Despite the people claiming it's dead negotiations are still going on and don't just done in a few days, I imagine the day to get Spider-Man took months if not even years.

Fuck off retard.
Is there really there is for miles?
The girls he can get are Peter's sloppy seconds only because of cuck fetishists?
It's sad

I honestly don’t know who to root for Disney is alright but I didn’t like their Pete to much he was to reliant on the rest of the mcu when he’s always been able to stand on his own and honestly all of the characters they paired him with I didn’t like their connection we get stuck with tony happy and “fury” when we should’ve gotten cap Johnny storm and daredevil. I honestly wish that he got an episode in the Netflix shows rather than the mcu but meh. While I’m excited at the prospect of solo movies I have no faith in Sony not ducking it up immediately

>Context clues and the characters flat out stating it in both the comic and the movie aren't sufficient evidence.
What?

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How would 65 Gwen react to knowing 616 Gwen was fucked and impregnated by Norman goddamn Osborn?

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It’s what bendis wanted sadly enough

> Disney is alright
Disney will gladly sell you for a nickel, mouselicker.

Oh the irony

Peni is pretty cute.

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I mean in the sense of which soulless corporation knows how to present media. That’s it

Her pussy would turn into ficking Niagara Falls.

So it's problem they had Spider-Man interacting with people he interacts with in the comics because they weren't the people you wanted and they didn't have the rights to?

She knows, she was GOBBED as well, it's a universal constant for Gwen really

This artist has literally never ridden public transportation.

I feel like I'd rather have mediocre Spider-Man movies than for Disney to consolidate any more power.

>Miles has almost 10 years of comics
>Gwen has 5
>their relationship was a one-off plot point in a few issues 3 years ago that was quickly written out and never brought up again
>he's had three different girlfriends in the meantime and tons of romantic interests
>she's been spending a lot of time with Peter since then
>want to insert her into the movie to have a "strong female Spider-Person"
>adapt this forgotten story of hers that is literally the only one that demeans her by making her nothing more than an accessory to a male character
>bend the ages and the rules of the story a ton and go through all this contrivance to make them fit together

This really made me think

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Out of morbid curiosity, could I, a genetic frank, be allowed to impregnate an Irish woman without it being racemixing?

I’m sure you’re an expert cuck

take it easy, you toddler.

he's got other girls in his harem.
besides, every character gets passed around and fucks in the marvel universe.

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Depends on whose bone marrow could the child receive in the need of a transplant

Nice shit reasoning for your shit ship

>Don't care. Peni is cute, and I want to supply her with alcohol and nicotine products.
Well at least you’re a pedo who’s honest with himself, please take a seat.

He’s trolling, no one can be this willingly Retarded

I know exactly how you feel, I fucking wish Disney never bough marvel, we’d still have gotten hulk movies and we could’ve seen a community of corporations working together in Hollywood rather than just one giant conglomerate

I dunno. Let me consult my charts.
>75% chance of impregnating+66 2/3 chance of scoring
>divide that by 141 2/3 on account of you being a genetic frank
I think it's looking pretty good for you

God I hope cates’ carnage run kills him, he was already turned.

You’re a disgusting pedo who’s also a cuck. Stop shilling

I wish but the little niggas gonna be a top ten seller next month, he’s get “his 250th” issue and amazing just has tie ins this month

Neither of those things would've happened.

For pedos

I’m like 50% certain it’s a false flag to keep these arguments heated

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>every character gets passed around and fucks in the marvel universe.
Maybe to cucks like you and the shit writers

Gwen is for BLACKING by symbiotes

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He’ll die somehow

>cucks like...shit writers
It's worse than that. Its shit writers making their pet characters fuck who they think they deserve.

It'd be better if MJ said "Please, no meat touching Spider-Man"

Spider-Verse is and will always be the GOAT superhero film, but without the original team and added Pascal (she's showing interest after the first one was a surprise hit) there's no way any sequel/spin-off is going to be as good.

Well it’s 100% stupid, she was the worst character

>The only Legacy that sells floppies
>Top 3 for Trades
>Going to be headlining a Spider-event which showcases friction between Morales and Parker after the events of Absolute Carnage.

Man, if you guys are this angry now how are you going to cope when Miles takes over Amazing in 3-5 years? You're liable to kill yourselves.

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It’s projecting and self inserting that is killing comics. Also making every woman a whore and every man a cuck. How can we look up to whores and cucks?

Why would he take over amazing? He is anything but amazing. Can he never get abook that will hit 100 issues?

>Going to be headlining a Spider-event which showcases friction between Morales and Parker after the events of Absolute Carnage.
God I can’t wait for Pete to absolutely buttrape miles in a fight.

Maybe just continue to not buy anything with Miles in it. I mean, they brought back my boy Logan, so it's all good.

I actually did chose others to be romantically involved with Miles:
-Kamala Khan (Top Choice)
-Nadia Pym
-Lana Baumgartner
-Tiana Toomes
-Barbara Gonzales

There are few others I'm thinking about, but the reason I was on board with the MilesXMJ pairing is because of a few things. One of which is they're both quite similar to each other

-Both characters are very gounded
-Both have an admiration for art, and are artists themselves. MJ being in modeling and acting, and Miles in hip-hop and poetry
-Both are easy going that are more fun
-Both are very rhythmatic when it comes to music
-Both have personal family issues and responsibilities that they can relate to each other
-Both actually feel like real people outside Spider-Man
-Both characters can just feel like they don't have to understand anything and they can just roll with it and have a laugh
-Both characters won't have to worry too much
-Both are really supportive that they can back each oher with anything

Honestly, being MJ with Peter can be torture that it almost leasd her to suffer a form of depression, which she has smoke alot, and it has by how many times she worries or watched him nearly dying. I mean she laughed, but she has never truly felt any form of happiness or was ever pleased with anything. Miles with Gwen never made him grounded or anymore believable because it was based on attraction, but no real connections. And when you think about it, would hey really have a relationship if they ignore their spider identities? No, because that's what started it, and without it they are just regular people that are nothing special. This is when you guys really have to think about it. All of you read how MJ was before she began dating Peter, and read the current Saladin Ahmed run of MIles. Read both of them, understandtheir personality, and really think about it. Despite some differences, both characters are actually very similar to each other. Again, really think about it

Exactly!

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Gwen is 4 years older than Miles in the comics you moron

They're retconning that out

What the fuck is grounded about a teenager living in his second universe on two super teams? You literally do nothing but start fights don’t you? You’re literally doing nothing but assuring that I hate Miles deeply and will never stop shittingg up every single thread about him

Gwen gets pregnant and has to have an abortion because of the time schisms killing her now infected cells

At least MilesXMJ made more sense then MilesXGwen

And honestly, Spider-Gwen's current run showed their relationship is building. Which I'm hoping for a romance between the two. Peter and Gwen are both legal so it's good

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I fucking hate you so much you uncreative pathetic cuck. You should kill yourself immediately and spare the world you’re half baked fan fiction

>kamala
that haram so nop

Sauce?

It makes less sense you god damned troglodyte, if I have a problem with pairing the little shit with peters dead first love why would I feel any better about pairing him with his best love interest?

I like the idea of the next villain being Venom. Only in Miles universe, Dead Spidey's body was dropped into the river or docks. The symbiote was tailing him pre-SMASH. The symbiote regenerates him. Spidey has been weakened from being at death's doorstep so venom is able to take over a good portion of his mind. Do a time skip to a year later (because it took a year for venom to regenerate him or some shit). MJ has moved on, Even Aunt May has a new Peter, venom prey's on the feelings of being thrown out and replaced. Evil peter wants to make a time machine to go back before his death and this time with an "idgaf I'm going to straight-up kill King Pen" attitude.

Villian dialogue: Something something "Miles, if King Pen is dead, your uncle won't die. You also don't have to ever meet Gwen, so you won't know the pain of never being able to be in the same universe with her without risking literal organ failure. Weave in a lie about how the other Spidey's all got cancer or some shit from going cross-dimensional."

Something something "why not push it further and save uncle Ben?" You can't go back that far the fabric of space-time or some shit! You can't change the past.

Anyway thanks for reading my blog.

Hmmm...

...Okay. I actually want to see this happen. It actually does sounds intesting. And MJ was lik that in the old comics

I actually agree. I think the smirky attitude by MJ on Miles could make it fun to watch

If my suspicions about the cause of the event are right then yeah Miles being the main character of Amazing is inevitable. We'll see in a couple of months.
>A 10+ year difference between them.
>A teacher being romantically involved with a student.
That's a big yikes user. Peter and Gwen are strictly platonic. This isn't the 1960s where people were ok with older men making out with 15 year olds. We live in 20XX, that shit's called grooming. It'll never fly. Thank God.

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enjoy amigo
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So what you want is Miles to be with both of peters major love interests and then kill him? I mean I could always just stop buying new comics but why must you niggas be so antagonistically Faggy? Why push the cuck shit while claiming it not to be cuck shit?

Its 20XX user. Peter's got to go and make way for the future.

What future?

That is something you really need to think about in terms of personality, and MJ hasn't been much of a best love interest to Peter for a while now. Hell, she's going ot leave him in persue of her acting career. Which there is a comic about involving Mysterio. And they've broken up multiple times now

Peter takes care of her, but he never truly elevate her. Ignoring the other version of her, is MJ truly happy with him?

Unless you are rich enough to pay accountants and lawyers to keep your money out of Uncle Sam's hands

>>109746096

>>109746027

>>109745936

>Peter finally dies

>Miles finally replaces him as a legacy character

>2 weeks later MJ is finally getting over his passing

>she kisses and makes out with Miles as he's comforting her over Peters death

>Miles finally becomes THE Spider-Man

with the success of his movie, i think we're finally ready to accept our new web slinger

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Yes JMS they worked well together. He builds her and makes her face reality and she allows him to ignore it. They’re a perfect couple and I want you to know right now user I’m genuinely on the cusp of being racist. Give miles his own feisty red head you sad cuck leave MJ alone

>all those jokers here
What a society lads fuck black ppl imma right XDD

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Peter is Mid-20's. Gwen is early 20's. Both are students at ESU now. Both of their relationships have been growing since Spider-Geddon. Both actually made each other laugh and actually have fun together. Hell, both of them are really adorable together

And they've hang out three times now and they've shown to have a much better relationship together

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That’s the point isn’t it? No one knows how to lift themselves or anyone up anymore so we all just get torn down. That is technically equality

>on the cusp of being racist
I genuinely believe this is a major factor in the rise of racist shit in "nerd culture".

Maximum cute

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It’s that info graph of how interests get destroyed which the funniest part being the death of the niche involves a literal death

Don't confuse me for that MJ shipping false flagger. MJ will always be Parker endgame. Everyone knows this, and I don't understand why people keep trying to pretend that it isn't. Throwing pointless women at him that will just be forgotten the second he switches writers. MJ won. She's won multiple times. An event was made SPECIFICALLY to ensure that MJ lost, and over 10 years later SHE STILL FUCKING WON.

Spider-Gwen is not Peter's love interest.

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JMS also wanted Peter to be the father of Gwen's two children in Sin's Past, and wanted to resurrect Gwen as a love interest again, which they almost did, and retcon Sin's Past out. Both attempts were thwarted by Quesada

If anything, JMS knew OMD was going to happened and wanted to do the Peter and MJ pair for the last time until it's erased from continuity

>MJ will always be Parker endgame. Everyone knows this
And this is why MJ has no value as Peter's love interest. Because she's so predictable

And don't think she won yet. We haven't seen what will happen near the end of Nick Spencer's run and MJ's new role in that. This is the pure sadness of MJfags. Never giving Peter anything new. Just the same rehash all over again with the same damsel-in-distress bullcrap we have seen multiple times

Plus, Gwen is now reemerging as the one love interst for Peter. It's only a matter of time

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Gwen's 19, maybe 20. Parker should be mid-30s due to the references he makes and adventures he's had, but sliding timeline or some bullshit so we'll be generous. At his youngest he's 28. They both aren't students. Parker is a TA. It's how Gwen got into the school in the first place. That's still grooming.

Predictability isn’t bad all the time user, I don’t hear people clambering to have Lois lane get paired with steel. Besides shit like this are what other comic lines are for but all bendis could do was pair peter and MJ then kill him off and replace him that was “unexpected” doesn’t mean it was good. Let peter and MJ be together in 616, then just kil them both off together and let’s end this charade

Gwen's 23, maybe 24. Parker should be in his late 20s due to the references he makes and adventures he's had, but sliding timeline or some bullshit so we'll be generous. At his oldest he's 28. They're both students. That's still cute.

Miles will fuck Gwen, Peni and Lana. maybe Ultimate Jessica.

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>PeterXGwen

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Peter was deaged since at the end of OND. He's mid-20's now. And yes, they are both students at ESU. It happened in his current run, and the reason why Gwen is a student because Peter asked Curt Connors to help Gwen with her application. Which judging from your response it's clear you've read neither of their current run. Hell, are you even reading them?

Both are still in their 20's. Thus making it clearly legal for them to date

>Gwen is reemerging as a love interest for Peter
>Still a worm eaten corpse in the ground

Nah, and no amount of what-ifs of "better times for Peter" is going to change that.

They were literally made for each other, they're perfect together

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Literally the entire concept of Gwen and miles is that to though.

>Predictability isn’t bad all the time user
Predictability is stupi, and it's why no new or interesting stories were ever made

Lois is her own thing. Really, why you people keep comparing Peter and MJ to Lois an Clark?

You're just asking for more boring stuff that will hold Peter back as a character. Spider-Man needs something really new and i needs to be bold. We can't rehash every dumb shit over anf over again. That just shows the utter state of why Peter will never be interesting

>Ultimate Jessica
She belongs to Ultimate Peter

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I can actually see this ship work

BASED!

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She's 19. I can't remember if it was issue 10 of her last run or the first one of her new run that states it's only been like 6 months since that book started, but yeah. At most she's 20.

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>posts non-canon source
yikes!

Why couldn't Miles die with the Ultimate Universe?

From the whole "I turn 17 next month" and "you're barely two years older" I thought it meant that Gwen was 18.

she also spent a year in prison has lived with her band and her comic claims shes only had her powers for a few months. No one at any point during her creation has ever bothered defining her age

dick too big

Yet the suggestion of pairing mj and miles just shows that Miles is here for nothing but bait threads. And you compare MJ and Pete to Lois and Clark because MJ and pete have great chemistry and they weren't eithers firsts. Look thats what I wanted ultimate to be and look what we ended up getting? I'd settle for a year of good adventures with someone to go home to over a decade of the sad sack shit we got with slott

I think the writers acknowledge how messed up the pair was to begin with that making her go to prison for few months instead of a year would only made Gwen less of a pedo than she is already

Despite some problems I had with him I at least enjoyed Slott's run because unlike most writers he actually did something new and interesting with the character that isn't boring. And MJ wasn't really needed to make a story good

Slott stopped being good a little before superior, and all of his romances were the same

>oh I just met this cute girl involved with law enforcement
>oh parker luck I'm always late and poor
>relationship over

Thats it and he really only gave him two love interests, didn't do shit with carol, doubled down on how terrible mockingbird was at the time, introduced the fact that silver sable liked him but killed her off in the same issue, had black cat fuck DD to get back at him and that's not counting the superior bullshit. I wouldn't have minded if he played with more relationships but they were always the weakest part of his writing. Fuck the guy did a decent she hulk but at no point thought about trying to pair pete and jen even though they would've worked well together. MJ just works on many levels and it'll never happen again because marvel seems to hate peter

They did it to draw cheap controversy and make lefty shit eaters feel like they're watching something progressive.

the ending to this movie was shit tier

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Sitting in a tree is still canon.
>Killing cows that still produce milk
I'm not saying it will never happen. But it certainly doesn't look like it's going to happen anytime soon.
19 makes sense. More sense than fucking 24 holy shit. She'd practically be a Christmas cake at that point making the "why haven't you gotten married yet" jokes that Jessica Drew gets all the time.

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This is a great troll

>I'm not saying it will never happen. But it certainly doesn't look like it's going to happen anytime soon.
It happened with Ultimate Peter, you never know

Fuck you faggot, the ending was god tier. Miguel O'Hara is the best fucking Spider-Man. I'll fight anyone who disagrees.

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He overcame Kingpin, who in this movie is considered a big deal.

>when you get the white girl

that's the after-credit scene
>Anyone could wear the mask. YOU could wear the mask. If you didn't realize that before, I hope you do now...
blegh

They actively de aged her when they paired her with miles. She got her powers in jr year pete flipped out in sr year and she ended up in her early 20s in her book living outside the home making money with her band

>when the jews have to literally bend time and space to give you the white girl

But user how else are they supposed to tell children that they aren't important until they find the right franchise to flourish under? Don't start your own original identity just lease an already popular one

Based and Redpilled Miggy is the greatest Spider-Man ever not named Peter Parker.

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>Anyone could BUY OUR MERCHANDISE. YOU could BUY OUR MERCHANDISE. If you didn't realize that before, I hope you do now...
Shameless Sony.

Spider-verse happens during the summer after she gets out of high school. Her father is still pestering her to go to school, the manhunt for spider-woman just started and the wound of Pete's death is still fresh in her mind. She was 17 then.

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>YOU could wear the mask
>by purchasing Spider-Man© on the SONY PlayStation® 4™

Oh myy

why are you obsessed with the pairing? it does nothing but show that miles is a watered down peter parker with nothing to call his own?

What is your malfunction?

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Is this considered a hot take?

Because I consider it hot.

what?

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Miles has never had a moment half this good, this and the actual moment they meet in this comic are great

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He had the opposite
>nice costume
>thanks I made it myself

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>made it myself
>Robbed this dead dudes aunts house with spray paint

They really doubled down on miles being black in spiderverse

Based. This is how it will happen though.

relevant. for once.

Did Raimi have any input?

Absolutely based, hate to say but reading that gave me chills