Dark Crystal Megathread

it's going to look stilted in comparison, and there's much less going on with the characters (at least the gelflings)
probably should watch it now

Finish the first season. It comes before the movie. Mind you, you'd have to wait for season 2 before watching the movie, if you want to see things in order.

I actually think it's better to watch the prequel first, has it actually provide background infos for the movie without spoiling too much.

Do all Grottans have two daddies? Deet said "fathers" when she saw her parents.

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I'd assume not, the kids gotta come from somewhere.

I doubt it. She could be adopted

Agreed. This is also the rare Netflix drama that is deliberately paced and draws you in without being painfully slow or overly drawn out.

The gelfling birth rate is quite low though the queens are able to bear more children. That's why it's not strange if someone is parenting other gelfling's child.

My wife

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I-is it wrong I think I like the Skekis more than the Gelfling?
except for Deet

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Can someone remind me, aren't Gelflings pretty much extinct in the movie? If so, how did it happen and are we going to see these characters die?

Watching the show first is certainly not not REQUIRED but there are a few aspects where it might create more of an “experience” experience for some
Spoilers, of course
>most significantly of course, the fact that the gelfs lose and are all but exterminated will come as a progression after watching all of these characters fight so hard
>not knowing how many Skeksis survive until the movie
>the fact that a movie viewer will clearly know that a skeksis crumbles into dust when they die, making the Hunter’s body waking up less of a shock
>the Darkening as a threat and concept

m.youtube.com/watch?v=RkOuUg5Qw2E

Press F for Skekgra’s sanity after having to deal with his slug of an other half for so many millennia.

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>something is deliberately made as a prequel
>watching chronological order instead of release order
begone pleb

Yes

they are well written villains. The emperor particularly. You can see why he rules the shit.

Of course not. There has been much talk in the past and one of the most common opinions of the movie was that Jen is boring as shit and most would recommend for the Skeksis themselves/the artistry

Yes. And Skeksis are slowly running out of creatures to drain

Unlike naughty Irkens yesterday, Skeksis know how to handle Yea Forums thread Are good friends to anons! HmmmMMMMmmmm.....

Pretty sure Chamberlain would post on Yea Forums if it existed in Thra

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Keep in mind Netflix spent ZERO on marketing. Either we word of mouth this or this will be the end of Netflix trying to do SOUL.

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I love that it introduces a ton of characters at the start but doesn't expect you to remember them right off the bat, its only through developing them and giving them a lot to do with the pacing that you get to understand their struggles and what they become memorable and distinct. Likewise the Skesis are kind of hard to tell apart at the beginning but by the end everyone has such a unqiue characteristic to them that it becomes easy to remember who they are. Making it a whole series instead of just a movie was a brilliant move and they used it well.

>Can someone remind me, aren't Gelflings pretty much extinct in the movie?
Yep.
>If so, how did it happen
Garthim are OP.
> and are we going to see these characters die?
Some of them.

I wouldn't say "deliberately". It's nto liek they had pnned fromt eh beginning to make the movie, then the Prequel series. A prequel can be written deliberately to be watched before the OG material and in this case, it seems to be so, as there is basically very little spoilers on the movie in it and it even allow to better understand what is going on.

The makers of the movie even said themselves there were a lot of concepts they created they couldn't work out in the movie.

Is the scientist voiced by Mark Hamill?

We just pull out the trial stone when shit gets heated

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Wouldn't all the Gelfling in this be dead by the movie? Do we know how far in the past the show is to the movie?

Thats the dance you do after you murdered someone.

Might as well send request to odds1out to make a review of the pequel. He already made a review of the movie that was quite popular. The guy has reach, whether you like him or not.

Oh no, this was a fluke and a the only reason it even has a soul is because of Henson Company.

Disney and HBO are going to fucking strangle Netflix to death, and I predict more pandering garbage from Netflix to stay relevant.

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It wasn't stolen, it was eaten!

>and in this case, it seems to be so
based on nothing
>The makers of the movie even said themselves there were a lot of concepts they created they couldn't work out in the movie.
So that's your justification for saying user should watch this larger, richer world and then go watch Dark Crystal which is relatively small in comparison? That expansion of the lore aside, Dark Crystal will look worse than AoR from the technical scale.
Release order is how things are planned and created, chronological order is never superior.

>odds1out
Didn't he bitch at the old movie for being too dark and confusing or something?

Pretty sure he got some influencer package from Netflix or something. He posted that he was binging AoR with a pic of some cake and a Rian funko pop box signed by Taron Egerton which The Dark Crystal account retweeted.

He’d be that fucking asshole who starts bait threads or posts an inflammatory comment in the middle of a decent thread to start shit
>hmmmmm sneed yes? Stonetoss yes? Smart friend likes DC more than Marvel yesss? Hmmmmmmmm

>based on nothing
Based on the series I have actually seen.

>and then go watch Dark Crystal which is relatively small in comparison?
No, but beacuse then watching the movie make more sense and thus is more enjoyable/ Also, that make the movie conclude on a more happy note than watching the series last.

Just watched the Dark Crystal for the first time, am about to start to Netflix series, what am I in for lads? No spoilers pls

I personally thought the story was meh, main characters were meh, but holy fucking shit the worldbuilding was phenomenal, as were the effects. Genuinely felt lived in, weird-ass alien evolutions of plans and animals were super fun to see. Does it live up to it in that aspect at least, or does it try to make up for it with better/more fleshed out characters with actually interesting motivations? And the shots were surprisingly good, like I really enjoyed the composition.

He actually said that it was really beautiful and actually recommended to watch it.

The series has everything on your list.

Isn't that her grandfather? Some non-mutts DO have multi-generational homes.

>Release order is how things are planned and created,
Except Resistance wasn't planned when the movie was written, so no. also, from season 1, it seems they wrote it to be seen first.

Only on episode 3, but Deet is best. Cute AF.

Fun fact: Grot is dutch for cave, from the italian Grotto derived from the Latin Crypta, or crypt. So, the Grottan literally named their cave 'cave'. And as a crypt, Deet comes from death', to bring life'.

So Spoonadin is best boy right?

Oh, then, that's already done, then.

So does that spitter thing go anywhere after the second episode? Because that seemed important.

Also Mira was a hussy, fite me.

It’s a good ten almost hour episodes
So there’s a lot to chew on but I think it’ll be to your liking

Patience
Patience
All comes together in the proper time and place

>then watching the movie make more sense and thus is more enjoyable
keep making assertions without even bothering to making the arguments
chronological order does not "make more sense"
>oh no it ends on a down note boohoo
fucking child

That's not Lore

>Except Resistance wasn't planned when the movie was written, so no.
that sentence right there explains how AoR had to be planned AFTER Dark Crystal was made you dumb fuck.
>also, from season 1, it seems they wrote it to be seen first.
based on what? if you have an answer, why not include it in your post? fucking waste of time

It’s a rock

>Does it live up to it in that aspect at least,
And then some, the technical mastery of the sets is on a whole other level. The characters are also much more fleshed out and developed despite having a massive cast. Their motivations I wouldn't say are more interesting though, from some of them, because for the most part its just don't wanna get Movie'd.

Probably just me, but I'm getting Final Fantasy vibes of all things from this.

Grottans live a long time and there's only about three dozen of them according to the books they've been putting out

>keep making assertions without even bothering to making the arguments
I did. I did say, after watching the show that the series seems to be build to be seen first.

the fact that it help understanding the movie better without actually spoiling is a valid argument.

That the watching conclude with the more optimist conlcusion of the movie is an other one as a positive vibe was the intent of the creator of the movie too.

It look to me like ou are fixated on a dogmatism you won't even consider bulging from not matter what.

Yeah, he's got nerves of steel.

>that sentence right there explains how AoR had to be planned AFTER Dark Crystal was made you dumb fuck.
Hence the point I have been making since the start: the movie and the series weren't planned to be wtached in a certain order as their conception are completely separated.

>based on what?
Based on season 1. The series. that we have seen.

Jeez, don’t even need the Skeksis to ensure their extinction

Goddamn. I've just got to the Chamberlain scene in the carriage and that is some great writing.

Since Gelflings are one with Thra they would have never gone extinct but then the Skeksis ruined the natural harmony

>hey, that wasn’t so bad!

Wait what happened with the Irkens yesterday?

Also just finished watching and Skeksil’s definitely my favorite character.

>Do we know how far in the past the show is to the movie?
50 years according to the Netlfix blurb

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Would you?

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When I go to Heaven's gates and they ask me what my accomplishments are, I want one of them to be I fucked a the hottest Skeksis in the castle.

>that banner
hmmmmMMMMMMMMmmmmm

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LEWD!

I loved how they animated the hunter, both as a puppet and a CG character. The costume appears lighter(physically) than the other Skeksis Suits. Is there any info on how they made him specifically?

>library nerd actually gets a kill
Never judge a book by its cover lmao

Where is the bird from that banner from?

wait, does Deet have 2 dads? or is it a father-(grand)father thing?

>that defile of the great Hunter's body

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Warhammer
Greater Chaos demons of Tzeentch, whose whole schtick is being a smug fuck that lays plans and plots that are able to change constantly. Which led to the meme of any event that happens, however ludicrous being “just as planned”

In their eyes it was honoring him. It was a reflection of their own vanity and desire to delude themselves into believing themselves immortal, but they didn’t think it a mockery

Two fathers. It’s repeatedly stated as such

It really adds to the horror of it. The weakest ill equipped Skeksis is more than a match for the strongest Gelfling

Any MEGAs for the season yet?

Good taste.

But Deet's pretty young. We should try not to sexualize her.

It was a legit attempt at honing one of their own. It's just that they had no precedent and do'nt really know how to handle it.

If you rewatch the intro, you see the two Father and Deet and her brother all sleeping in the same bed together.

Also, you realise that they only introduce 3 of the 7 clans, if you hadn't noticed at the first watch.

>But Deet's pretty young. We should try not to sexualize her.
Pfffffft, That's a good one user

>But Deet's pretty young.
You don't know that.

You just want her for yourself!

>young

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Well techincally since she's now one with the tree, she's like thousands years of old

How big would a Gelfling be compared to a human anyway?

Standing blowjob height

>When Seladon goes full Skesis with the force

Unironically a better fall into madness than Danny.

For a manlet

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Oof. Right in the shortstack fetish...!

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>They actually gave the rock monster a character arc

Damn this show just keeps getting better.

a bit mad that we didn't get to see what the trial by air actually is

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>Honestly the best thing netflix has ever produced.
this is great, but I think Ballad of Buster Scruggs still wins for me, personally.

I don't suppose since we have a dark crystal thread up, anyone would want to discuss the sequels as well?

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>sequel
>There's Skeksis on the front cover
What?

I wasn't able to get my hands on the comics. Are they any good?

Yes.

It's almost exactly his joker voice, so yeah, obviously.

It's kind of a conceptual mess

I imagine Humans are the same height as UrSkeks, because it only serves to make the UrSkeks more alien to the setting by also making them so close to us.

Friend. Yesss? Please? Stay! Am Friend!

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The UrSkeks are actually the humans and what they have evolved into after millenia of space faring.

The crystal split. Again. this is transcribed from the original sequel script that was planned as a movie, so it's something the Jim Henson company deliberately chose.

I liked "The Power of the Dark Crystal", but "Beneath the Dark Crystal" felt a little less focused overall (that one is wrapping up this month I think).

Someone posts chair.gif, and we all just beat that stone into dust, even those of us not involved.

>General eats a moth cocoon, spits it out because he thinks it tastes bad
>immediately goes for another
It was kind of endearing what a simplistic moron he was

FUCK, he looks like a badass! ...we need his ass in MK11.

The bad tasting one was yellow. He grabbed a blue one thinking they might be different flavours, and since he said the blue one was better he may have been right.

posting some of the covers from the comics, because they where well-made. Here's old Jen.

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Naturally, blue is the superior color

Objectively, Buster Scruggs is better.
But I love them both the same for their unbridled SOUL

THE GELFLINGS WILL PAY!

Watching the 4th episode. Lore is one of the few things that's CGI animated, right?

Nope! Operated by a full crew in blue suits. It's in the documentary.

Not that user, but I don't believe you. There's no way that's real.

>Fantasy world
>big ass crystal
>bizarre creatures turning monsters
>Skeksis clothes look like they were designed by Yoshitaka Amano
It's very understandable.

Not bullshitting. I'd send a screencap but I'm phoneposting and Netflix doesn't let you screenshot. If you wanna see it for yourself the doc is called The Crystal Calls.

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Skesis came first! Skeksis will not dieeeeeeee

DID SOMEONE SAY LE EPIC 80S PRACTICAL EFFECTS??? OMG I LOVE PRACTICAL EFFECTS BECAUSE ITS REEEALLLL. THERE'S REALLY SOMETHING IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA OMG!!!!! IT HAS SO MUCH SOOOUUUUULLLL!!!!!!!

I think there's a documentary about it. But yeah, the Hunter's suit is animated so well that there are points where I can't tell if it's either animated as a puppet or in CGI.

who roasted your nebrie, dude
chillax damn

Cute gelfling fanart where?

Ayo hol up, why is General Greivous so much more fit and healthy compared to his peers? Is it just because he works out or is it just never really explained? What's the secret to his gains?

>Didn't like or care for Podling in the movie
>Absolutely disgusted by them in the Netflix series

Though I must admit, Hup is based for going apeshit on those Gelflings, and with a spoon no less.

At a guess he seems to hunt things in the wild and has to be summoned to the castle while they alternate sitting in a tower and a carriage.

What made you like this, dude?

I really want to know what nebrie taste considering how often it's brought up.

Podlings are literally lesser beings. You aren't supposed to really feel anything for them. Hup is a credit to his race.

The puppet show within the puppet show is fucking amazing.

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Yes, they even got a youtuber to do it.

Uh...ARE there any female Skeksis?

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Shame you cant discuss this show on Yea Forums, they refuse to watch it because of the chance hat there might be racemixing

The other Skeksis are lazy hedonists who do nothing but chill in the castle having feasts and bubble baths while he's out there hunting for the sheer fun of it.
I completely forgot Skeksis had another pair of arms til he pulled out Grievous mode with swords, what an absolute Chad of his race.

The podlings are so cute

Two are voiced by women, but all skeksis are true hermaphrodites in the sense that they have both sets of equipment. Still don't know how Ayuk got that third stream out though.

He's the one skeksis with the healthiest connection to Thra aside from perhaps the Heretic.

He doesn't rule, never partook in essence, and didn't laze about as the "protector of the Crystal", he was just out there killing shit.

He was acting like an apex predator while most of his species was acting like scavengers.

DO they, though? maybe the castle Skeksis' secondary arms have atrophied to uselessness, while THIS muthafucka's been doing 4-point pushups.

MEGA when?

Not male or female. For Skeksis gender literally is a construct that they simply choose to wear whenever they feel like it.

If the Emperor wanted to wear a dress and be called an Empress for a week you'd damn well do it or she'd tear your fucking eyes out.

One spare just for the hell of it.

Well, if they have BOTH, then...

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PEEPER BEETLE!

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You... don't have three piss streams?

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WUT?

Holy shit was that him? I remember thinking one of the puppets seemed just like what he'd do

No, really
It's crazy but Simon does a mean Chamberlain

I don't remember his name but he was a young white guy. Watch the making of documentary on netflix, because that's where I heard it.

Who should they get to play the real General?

God dammit they both deserve better.

they serously underused Hup

Which skeksisbfrom the movie are absent from this?

The Scientist gets less than what he or the other skeksis deserves. It just feels weird because he gets more than the rest.

Brea Vs Deet

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Who are the asians?

youtube.com/watch?v=HaU_VpMu0cE

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Gartham master / new emperor
Slave master
Treasurer

Kinda disappointed it won't be Benedict Wong because he did a great job.

Based Baffi
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Aughra can barely control Aughra!

Just checked, I don't see SkekNa the Slavemaster or SkekShod the treasurer or SkekUng, the general from the original in the cast list. Not sure how that works in terms of this being a prequel, I did think while watching this that it was weird there weren't more Skeksis, and some ones seemed different. Some of the ones who are new being killed off makes sense, but where do the missing ones come from? Maybe they tried to reduce the cast list a little too much.

If Puppets are Yea Forums, are moster costumes Yea Forums?

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After the death of the Hunter ,there is a scene where the Skeksis are talking about contacting the rest of the Skeksis who don't reside in the Castle and skekUng(from the movie) is one of them. Presumably he'll return and fill the now vacant position.

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We some really good godzilla threads here buuuuuuut sadly no

Puppets and suit-mation are physical performances so it would technically Yea Forums so don't tell the mods

>there is a scene where the Skeksis are talking about contacting the rest of the Skeksis who don't reside in the Castle and skekUng(from the movie) is one of them. Presumably he'll return and fill the now vacant position.
Ooh, that's smart. That way they can keep the cast limited to what they need and also work in every character. They'll probably even add one or two more Skeksis when those others come back so they can have a couple more casualties to leave the original cast in place.

if the serie gets enough views

>Do you have a plan in place for a second season?

>JA: Yeah, we have a written document that plans out season 2. Everybody’s very excited about it. And now we just wait to see what the numbers are and wait for that phone call that we get to go back to Thra.

>Production on season 1 presumably involved a lot of development, construction, and planning. Do you think season 2 would get going a lot faster?

>JA: I think it would be more efficient, but I would try to use the time to make the show even bigger and crazier.

theverge.com/2019/8/29/20838469/dark-crystal-age-of-resistance-netflix-behind-the-scenes-interview-technology-puppetry-muppets

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There's like only three skeksis in the series that aren't in the film though, the hunter, the heretic and the collector. Everyone else present was in the original film.

The scientist's green pet thing is cute.

There's also the Satirist and the Mariner, who both showed up in the JM Lee books and were left alive

I'm saying when they call those back to the castle, they may want to "call" a few more back so there are still Skeksis casualties and the scheming and intrigue, as well as the conflict doesn't stagnate.

Did they? He's a fairly prominent character up until about the time they go to the desert
And they're clearly not done with him yet

More Hup, please.

>>JA: I think it would be more efficient, but I would try to use the time to make the show even bigger and crazier.
bueno, great thing about reusable assets

God please dont let this fail.

>Which princess is this?
>I don't know, they all look alike
wow, fucking racist space turkeys

In cannon they are the size of mice in comparison to a human

They're all going to die in the next season
youtube.com/watch?v=7YRjsjulAX8

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You keep saying this without evidence and it just sounds like you're blurring Thra and Fraggle Rock together

so the show has set 18 as the starting number
With Mal, Lach, and Var all dead, that leaves 15 to work with

No fuckin way

A-user they have to otherwise it will shatter the continuity of the original.

I hope the final season goes full Halo Reach tier, have the ending be depressing as fuck but with a slight twinge of hope.

DON'T BELIEVE SKEKSIS LIES!!

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It fucking blew my mind when I found out that Pegg was the Chamberlain.

14. One died like immediately after the split and became their object lesson that they couldn't just kill the Mystics.

Netflix poisoned a lot of opinions on what might be thanks to Witcher, the idea something like this could actually exist is hard to imagine.

I didn't believe it could be this good till I saw it either.

>When Seladon confronts the Skeksis and they straight up tell her 'no you stupid bitch, we're totally draining all of your friends and loved ones, lol' and proceed to strip her like a prostitute

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Whats wrong with Witcher?

Why’d they get all these big names instead of voice actors?

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Netflix cash, but they all gave their roles their absolute best so I don't mind.

I forget exactly, but they're throwing in a bunch of weird stuff like lesbian subplots and I think Geralt's daughter is black now or something?

No

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Dreamfast with me bro.

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It's already out. I downloaded last night, just haven't watched yet.

Racemixed a bunch of characters(yes, including a redhead that's now black, how did you know?), changed the look of a lot of stuff(Like the scrotum armor), and now are saying they're introducing more plotlines that don't make sense and of course, calling everyone who doesn't like these changes the usual parade of labels, its all so tiresome. Dark Crystal being a connection of an old property that doesn't have the usual changes is unheard of in Netflix's lineup, I can see them just saying "Fuck off" after all that bullshit.

Mark Hamil is more Voice Actor than actor at this point and Simon Pegg blew my mind.

Not a chance Gr*ttan

>disappointed that the hunter dies in the same episode he is introduced
>but then he jumps out of the patch of carnivorous plants

Pfft, please. I'd fuck it into submission. I suspect being overpowered and humiliated is a turn-on for them, considering how proud and easy to offend they seem to be.

Wait...there's MORE?? Are they all badasses?

Too based to die. Literally took his other half, his only equal, to take him out both times.

Could someone make a gif of The Skeksis dancing after drinking the essence in Episode 1?

Is it just me or did the Emperor sound progressively more australian with each >NO

I feel like every Skeksis is some kind of Starscream. They probably secretly love it and long for a Megatron figure to throw them around a bit and to plot against.

That slight pause as they see just how far this bitch is willing to dig before she realizes she's in a hole. Pure pottery.

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SkekUng is
The other two mentioned are mostly nobodies, but hopefully if they appear the show will make them entertaining

Emperor's reaction made it a hilarious scene.

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>"PLEASE AT LEAST SPARE MY FAMILY"
>silence
>"Nah, fuck off cunt."
>hearty laughter

Well, thats what is going to happen. Only 2 gelflings survive. A heroic daughter of a princess and a clumsy moron.

>You dare try to control Aughra? Aughra can barely control Aughra!

I love the little moments in the really fucked up times.

I get that Seladon abzolutely deserved her comeuppance after what a dick she was the whole time, but that scene and them ripping off her clothes just made me really pity her. She fully believed the Skeksis were just and couldn't accept that her family and friends were in the right. And boy, did she get the wakeup call of her life.

Aughra was funny all throught this. She has no patience for all the bullshit going on. Like with The Archer.

So why the FUCK didn't they chase down the skeksis and finish them off? The fuckers were in disarray and fleeing
The absolute morons, now you've given them time to prepare the Garthim or allow the Emperor to do more with his dank ass dark wizardry

This is so fucking creepy, how can anyone enjoy that.

With the sequel season setup in play let’s theorize (and fantasize) about plotlines for the second season.

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You'd think given the death of the Stonewood, they'd realize how dire their situation is, but Gelfling unfortunately seem a bit naive.

Absolutely based, Lisa. Can't wait for the Storyteller reboot.

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>just snatches the bitch out of the air
Goddamn Seladon, chill the fuck out!

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They went to war with a "no kill"-principle. What did you expect from adorable but dumb elves?

I really love how clever the writing of the dialogue is in general.
>And as All-Maudra, I have turned a blind eye and said nothing while you steal from Gelfling. No more!
>I have allowed you to buy my loyalty with cheap trinkets. No more!
>I have bowed my head and called you lords while you drained us! NO MORE!

>General: Then you are NO MORE!

I wasn’t knocking it, they did an amazing job, just kinda seems like a waste cash.

>W-we are not p-pets (reee)
>FALSE

>LEAVE
>FRIEND
>ALONE
>fucking shanks a bitch

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>Mystics sing their songs and play their digeridoos within their valley with yet another peaceful day ahead of them.
>Youngest, most beautiful female Mystic with perfectly shaped nose spontaneously explodes into a gooey mess.

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FOR FUCK'S SAKE, SITUATIONAL AWARENESS TAVRA

>Saved the General's life just so that he could kill the poor bastard himself after convincing him he's his friend
absolutely brutal

>what happened with the Irkens yesterday
You don't wanna know.

Chamberlain plays for fucking keeps user.

share with us, I've been dealing with plenty of shit threads of late

desuarchive.org/co/thread/109675815/#q109675815

Invader Zim roleplay thread that devolved into degeneracy

>literally the best fantasy epic since the LotR film trilogy
>won't even win any awards because hurr durr streamed shows are not eligible
JUST

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>Invader Zim roleplay
Well there's your problem right there then.

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The CGI tongues moving around when the Skeksis talk is a small detail but it adds a lot more life to the animation.

I found it extremely distracting though
That shit was flopping around like there was a hurricane, and that was during the parts where they weren't TRYING to make the tongues so prominent

The only way this show survive is if we spread the word. I already shilled it to all my friends, do your part!

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thought it was weird how pretty much every laugh was described as [CACKLING]

Hup is that one motherfucker who'd not only help you bury a body but kill the bitch himself without question.
That podling's got balls bigger than his head.

>Podlings are literally untermensch
>their language is some some Slavic-sounding gibberish
What did Netflix mean by this?

Even if the user that originally stated this theory is full of shit, it’s blown my mind regardless thinking that the menacing skekses are no larger than rodents

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Didn't they literally reuse the Skeksis puppets for an episode of Farscape? They were very big guys in that episode compared to the humans.

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I appreciate that All-Maudra doesn't waste time belittling Hup when shit's going down
>"Aight nigga no time for ceremony let's go fight some cunts, prove yourself here"

Too bad she apparently didn't CONSIDER THAT THE EVIL BIRD MEN STEALING HER PEOPLE TO SACRIFICE WOULDN'T KINDA FUCKING RETALIATE AFTER SHE STARTS SHIT TALKING THEM

I give zero shits about any industry circlejerk awards, as long as we get a complete story for this series I'll be beyond overjoyed.

>Chamberlain schooling rian in the carriage

The logic is Awards lead to recognition lead to viewers lead to Season 2.
If it stays our super sekrit club stuff then that's also how it will die.

For everyone interested in the dark crystal universe I thought I would make a little guide to the canon, reading order and confusion over stuff like the canon 18 SkekSis.

The first part of the canon timeline are the 3 volumes of Creation Myths which document the arrive of the UrSkeks, the split and the cracking of the crystals along with the following days and the creation of Thra. This is then followed by the four book series: Shadows of the Dark Crystal, Song of the Dark Crystal, Tides of the Dark Crystal and Flames of the Dark Crystal. The quartet form there own complete story. Then next is The Age of Resistance followed by the original film. Set after the film is the 12 issue comic book series The Power of the Dark Crystal which is based on the unmade sequal film, this comic book series is followed by another recently released comic series called Beneath the Dark Crystal. These are the core components of dark crystal canon.

Important Note: Following the release of the book series and backed up by the official website the Legends of the Dark Crystal are no longer canon but still make for an interesting read.

The next thing I want to go over is the confusion surrounding the 18 SkekSis. Using the encyclopedia on the official website show that the 18 canon SkekSis are: SkekSo the Emperor (dies in the movie), SkekZok the Ritual-Master, SkekUng the Garthim-Master (the second general seen in the film then emperor), SkekSil the Chamberlain, SkekTek the Scientist (dies in the movie), SkekAyuk the Gourmand, SkekNa the Slave-Master, SkekShod the Treasurer, SkekOk the Scroll-Keeper, SkekEkt the Ornamentalist, SkekMal the Hunter, SkekVar the General (the first general seen in age of resistance), SkekLach the Collector, SkekGra the Conquerer (who later becomes the Heretic), SkekLi the Satirist (dies in the second book), SkekSa the Mariner (dies in the fourth book), SkekHak (died immediately after the split), SkekYi (also dies immediately after the split).

I found that weird too.

There's another big puppet thing dropping today. And it's live!

Mariner was trapped in a tree, but not dead as her Mystic counterpart was okay. Satirist was kept in stasis check by his Mystic counterpart, but the other Skeksis bailed him out when taking the Grottan sanctuary.

They did reuse them.

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Be walking inna woods
See this
wat do?

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Bring her to the crystal castle to crack open some sweet, sweet essence with the boys.

Gobble

Rian definitely deep-dicked Deet that campfire night near the Dousan

I just want to cuddle with her filthy moss covered body

>we got to Trending Now on Netflix
Nice
Let's hope normies get us a S2

Was thinking, could this movie inspire the puppet porn industry to up their game?

Just finished, great series, but I'm fucking amazed at how much shit this gets away with for a PG rating.

I mean, jesus fuck the last episode has scientist throwing one of his servants into a fiery chasm and violently stabbing the other to death, spraying blood all over his animal friends

change the color of the blood from anything, but red and you can make shit ultra gorey like how samarui jack did with robots and oil

So Cadia was totally gonna kill Brea, right?

He just wanted to erase her memory of the symbol

>Multiple onscreen drainings
>People being stabbed through
>Cut down
>Sentient creatures eaten alive
>Devoured by gobblers
>Shot with arrows
>Peeper beetle
This show lived up to its name

I like how his tapes are done by a guy with an american accent. It makes me think he was made by a human that came to thra.

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Tavra and the general had red blood.

Holy shit Steve is shitting on Dark Crystal right now.

Didn't mean to reply to you

I mean, both the Henson company and Disney kinda screwed him over for no real reason. Not too surprising.

Season 2 needs to happen, if only to get our big beautiful crab-lads

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Kinda sorta, like Star Wars they had a timrline drawn up when they made the movie.

I hope that wasn't 4chann throwing F-bombs at Steve.

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>according to the books they've been putting out

Unlike the Grottans! Hiyooo!

hoho

The new General absolutely has to say MY DEADLY GARTHIM at least once. It's all for naught otherwise.

Soon my fellow Skeksis, we will have our CHADLY GARTHIM.

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so there are two shards? Did they break from the crystal at the same moment?

Who's Steve?

Only one.

>skektek deploys the Garthim
>they either clumsily fart about and get made a joke of by the Gelflings or they outright refuse to listen to the skeksis' orders
>SkekUng arrives at the castle (he's been away for several hundred trine because he got sick of Chamberlain's shit) after hearing word of the fuckery going down
>Tames the Garthim
>Leads them into the field next time and absolutely MASSACRES the overconfident Gelfling who now have the fear of Skek in them
>Chamberlain continues to make SkekUng want to die every single day regardless

Steve Whitmire, former Kermit replacement and Henson company veteran. For reasons unknown he's been wooshed out of both Disney and the Henson company.

Steve Whitmire, the Kermit performer that Disney fired last year that got actively shat on by the Henson family.

Not quite - the Gelfling have pepto bismal blood

Are we moving in a golden age of puppets? Any more and I might faint.

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One shard, multiple fakes that you see in Aughra's joint during the movie. Good chance that perhaps the Gelfling create several decoys to keep the skeksis from recovering the real one

Well that sucks both ways. For him and that he's lashing out at the show. What's he saying?

what about the emperor's?

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Not from the Dark Crystal itself, but still magical. Where he found it isn't said, though it could be the desert, since we know they've had expeditions to/commanded tribute from the desert and retrieved Peeper Beetles from the same region. You can see there's lots of crystal out there

There was a sketch poking fun of The Dark Crystal on his stream.
Worth noting he actually voiced the scientist in the original film.
Methinks he's bitter about the celebrity casting for the voices

Especially when the book is 5 times your size.

Just finished the season and while I really enjoyed it and would love to see more, I'm not really sure where you go with it after this... I mean, while we don't know the events that happen between now and the film, we know where things end up and it's kind of a massive fucking downer - the Gelflings lose, are virtually wiped out, and Thra is ruined. And then fifty years later we get the events of the movie in which the Skeksis are defeated and the last surviving pair of Gelflings are left to live out the remainder of their short lives on a dead rock.

Puppet Up always worked better as a stage show, rather than a scripted film. I'm pretty hyped that it's coming back after being stuck on the lot for the past year

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If this get popular, will it open the fludgates of OCs?
You have races, factions and made up back stories and powers

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Are there any canon heights for the characters and races?
I need to know if the smut I'm writing is elf porn or midget porn.

First season ends on something of a high point
I kinda want the second (not sure if you could work a third) to be the slow crawl towards absolute defeat for the protagonists

But shit, imagine if they jumped forward a generation or two, where the noose closes ever tighter for ever shrinking populations of gelfs trying to hide/fight

a human cock must be several times the size of a gelfling's penis,so it'd probably barely fit
at first

>the last surviving pair of Gelflings are left to live out the remainder of their short lives on a dead rock
Fixing the Crystal healed the world, remember nigga?

>That's one ugly midget hobo

Tempted to start watching tonight.
Did Netflix fuck it up or nah?

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Good news for the Podlings, then, I suppose. Sadly Jen and Kira are, canonically, the only surviving members of their race.

>Aughra considers the hunter to be the most beautiful of the Skeksis

I'm about halfway through and while I don't want to let myself get sucked into hype, it's pretty goddamn kino so far

she has excellent taste

It's far from fucked up. The voice acting, cinematography, puppetry and music are all great.

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>Wow user! Your dick is almost as big as Rian's!

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It was better than many of us had hoped, even!
Certainly give it a try for yourself, and beware of spoilers if you haven't already been

I think people find Deet cutest because she has distinct features we designate as cuteness as well as that she is the most inhuman looking. By majing her look less human she does not have the uncanny valley effect.

Its a high brain concept, I think the UV thing is in part us unconciously thinking that it is supposed to look different rather than accepting it looking as it is is supposed to look.

The followup materials has more come along. I don't recall exactly how
Maybe the Crystal created more of those too since the gelfling were supposed to be closest to Thra

I'm pretty sure the Skeksis are the embodiment of several boards

Only on episode 5 but wow that Seladon bitch is a cunt huh?

like that matters. all the gelflings can fit a whole human arm

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You sure? As far as I can recall all of the books, comics, and other supplemental material from the IP is prequel stuff. I don't know of anything that takes place after.

According to the first director he was inspired by the vatican with the skeksis suit designs.

Oh you've got no idea.

The Grottans in general look way more palatable to the eye than any of the other Gelflings. It's all in the eyes. Weird inhuman creature having human eyes looks odd to us, but since Grottan eyes are all black and brown it makes more sense in our minds. Their greenish skin also helps.

Huh? Here,
This should help
Power of the Dark Crystal in particular

Garthrim master fucks shit up and Deet goes megadeath dark while trying to contain her power.

Also the emperor's voice changes from withering away

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This is a story about how the Gelfing all die Did you expect them to be cunning like their enemies?

They are also happy.

I'm calling that Deet goes full JEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAN with the Darkening.

There's the one with the pustules although appsrently its all a mystery down there.

>its all a mystery down there
OH THAT'S GOOD
THAT'S BETTER
...THAT'S BEEEEEST

I'm sure there being not enough of foot shots and finding out the gelfs are something spproaching legal age chased most off.

I bet the Slavemaster is a lowkey big threat. He's definitely going to be bad news for the Podlings.

It's gonna be a bad day for the podlings once Scientist figures out he can use the Crystal to fuck them up

I'm still confused as to why Gelflings just pop out of existence instead of becoming mindless slaves like the podlings did in the film.

Makes you wonder if they actually depended on the rejuvenations to live or was it just making them stronger.

gelflings are closer to thra than podlings.
basically they're magic, podlings are muggles. the crystal eats part of muggles and all of magics

I think they explain that being closer to Thra, more of their being is the World's energy, hence why only their essence rejuvenates the Skeksis, and why when it is drained there's little else left
Contrast to the podlings where only a small spiritual aspect is drained, ruining their minds but leaving the body whole

OH NONONONO!

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Somehow the exact opposite, everything you thought Netflix would fuck up, they didn't.

Probably not, might have just wanted an excuse to exercise their twisted desires.
Very unlike our sacred /fit/ icon, the Hunter. What a wonderful boy!

He does a great job. Totally sounds unlike him.

explain more

>Totally sounds unlike him.
?

The real kicker is that the Mystics are the other half of the Skeksis yet never needed rejuvenation

Yes! YES!

Writing isn't shit or stilted, performances are solid, zero cringe inducing modern political shit or activist messages, no lore rape.

Depends on their country of origin.

He looks like an Orz!.

Mostly because they were content to live with their lifespan instead of trying to extend it. The Master shows they /can/ die of old age, but only when they feel it's time. The Skeksis of course aren't going to play that shit.

To be fair, Jen is a low test beta limpdick who lived with cushy boomers his whole life.

Why OCs? You'd get a ton Human in Thra stuff instead.

>Setting has giant trees and rocks.
>Girls can fly despite terribly small wings
>plenty of giant bugs.
>What if everything is just small?

I-I don't know anything anymore.

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Their connection is a two way street, the Skeksis rejuvenating themselves probably extended the Mystic's lifespans as well.

>Modern day politics
Completely absent
>Turning the skesis into fascismiles for whatever popular figure the writers hate this week?
Nope.
>Shoehorned in reference to pop culture?
None.
>Rewriting the original plot to 'update' it for more modern audiences?
Nuh uh.
>Reliance on CGI instead of puppets for most of the shots because time consuming?
Puppets are god tier all the way through.
>Forced gender politics?
None.
>Real world parallels to identity politics with the tribes?
Not present.
>Raceswapping.
Skesis are still birds, even the red one!
>"Big name actors" cast because of name brand instead of ability/said actors phoning it in because puppets?
Everyone knocks it out of the park and has a blast.
>Simple to make it easy to understand?
Adds to the lore.
>Makes it a stupid comedy for huge sections because lol puppets are muppets so funny
Takes itself completely seriously the whole way through. There's humor used sparingly, mostly from Augrah, but its always used properly and never takes away from the truly dark parts of the story.

The parts Netflix always seems to fuck up was absent here. Its truly a great series that is just as good if not even better than the original and feels like it will be as timeless today as it will ten years from now when we have a new boogieman.

OHNONONO

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>SKEKSIS PARTY!

>Everyone knocks it out of the park and has a blast.
arguably except Sigourney

HMMMMMM

Yeah, the popped the eyes out and covered ghem in black. That was the one where they sabotage moya with weaponized vomit.

I keep watching the series for farscape props. I think the crystal palace halls are the same sets as moya.

ITTY BITTY

The Skeksis would still be like 6 feet tall and scary as shit, especially Hunter

Garthim would be, what, 7? 8?

Would they still keep props in storage for decades?

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Fuck the mystics does assholes don't do shit.

Getting knocked unconcious by a metal pitcher couldn't have done his memory any favors.

I don't see why he would be teabagged on by Yea Forums. He got fired for saying that new mppets show show sucked and was out of character for kermit to act and he was completely right.

I mean, its not even an opinion. They had to change staff and lots of things just to get the second season of it.

>prequel
>only one extra skeksi

Meh, i thought the movie implied there used to be much more skeksi/mystics

>the blood splash

There are, they got listed off when the hunter 'died'

keep watching.
But remember there were only ever 18 skeksis and two died right off the bat

There are, several ones from the movie aren't in the show because they are elsewhere.

why is legends no longer Canon? I remember reading the first volume, but I only recall bits.

Typo I assume

WHY is it anatomically correct????

I thought her narration for the intro was fine
Probably just one dick in particular. Yea Forums loves Steve from the puppet threads I've read.
I think he means the Chamberlain sounds totally unlike Simon Pegg's typical voice for a role.

In my mind, podling essence is like eating french fries.

I cant wait until the final season so i can see Deet get fucking murdered!

Ah that makes sense then. Yeah I wouldn’t guess that it’s him

HA!

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pls no
I know it's inevitable (Especially with the Darkening coursing through her now)but she's too fucking pure for Thra. My heart won't fucking take it.

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Would you happen to have the link?

I thought Kira got kind of zombied. Maybe the explanation could be that the process hasn't been refined enough for that precise kjnd of sucking or they haven't actually tried throttling it enough.

The general tried to suck Durkin off in in episode 3 or was at least strongly saying he was going try.

>the general tried to suck (Gurjin) off
PHRASING

I feel like it was a missed opportunity not to have Augrha and the Hunter talk. They seemed most understanding about the whole Thra situation and she had a good rapport with Archer.

Also, doesn't Archer kind of introduce a weird plothole where you realize the Mystics can just kill themselves and Thra is saved? I mean I get they're not totally good guys, they are still part Skesis, but you'd think the Emperor's counterpart would be all about death since his counterpart is obsessed with avoiding it. Couple Gelflings in the Mystic's cave with a pointy stick and the whole issue resolves itself.

For the verisimilitude of the costuming.

In the novelization, it explains that the Gelflings were hunted to extinction by the Skeksis. Kira survived because the Podlings hid her in their remote village and Jen survived because he was in the Valley of the Standing Stones with the Mystics and not even the Skeksis would fuck with them.

Not gonna lie, Gurjin absolutely gave off massive "dies in the first or second episode" energy, but I was pleasantly surprised to see he made it the first season.

Still begs if the mystics live because of the vita rays of the crystal or if the skeks live because of mystics healthy lifestyle.

>Aughra trusts the Skeksis with the Crystal while she goes stargazing
I mean I get that they weren't all evil and old and decrepit looking back then, but still they don't really ooze trustworthy.

hhhmmMMMMMMMMmmm...

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I for one wonder how John Criton would react in this setting. My guess would be a lot of drugs and nervous breakdowns.

>I mean I get that they weren't all evil and old and decrepit looking back then, but still they don't really ooze trustworthy
that's racist user

They were supposedly super chill and friendly before.

It's iffy because there's so much conflicting stuff between the books, comics, etc. In some versions they start out super chill after the schisms, in others they immediately start killing motherfuckers

Deet or Brea, who wins the Rianbowl?

About half way through. This is actually good. What the fuck? I expected nostalgia cashgrab garbage. This is actually one of the better shows in recent times.

What I would give for some dumb easter eggs confirming Dark Crystal, Fraggle Rock, Labyrinth, and Farscape all take place in the same universe because why the fuck not?
Deet, the documentary even confirms as much.

Its a film thing. Lots of props get saved because it saves you time to use them for a new production, especially when its some high detailed triciate stuff. JHC loves to reuse puppets because its much, much easier to tweak an old one then make a new one.

The best example would be that show mythbusters. They have a ton of the props they made for movies and reuse them.

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Rian will be ripped apart by Garthims
Brea will haver her essence dried
Deet will be used as guinea pig until death by the Scientist

One thing I found really curious was how many sympathetic traits the Skeks had. The scientist was obviously pretty fond of this fuzzy little pet, The Emperor and General both display gratitude to anyone who does them favor, and the rest of the Skeksis had a vague form of friendship with each other, even showing concern over the idea that one of their own could die.

>Thunder Bolt Fantasy 2 2018
>Dark Crystal Age of Resistance 2019
>Thunderbolt Fantasy 3 coming
Is puppet kino on the rise?

You're a tehDave fan, huh?

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Brea
Deet will win the me-bowl!

MINE

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I mean Aughra spent like a thousand trine surfing the cosmos, that's a lot of space
So headcanon it if you like, their universe is big enough that it could be true

Yes. Lots of stuff can easily be repurposed and reused. Firefly painted the Mobile Infantry armor from Starship Troopers purple for the Alliance soldiers... then Starship Troopers took them and painted them grey again for the sequels.

probably lack the ambition to kill themselves

What's that say when Archer was the only one who felt he absolutely had to kill himself, because nothing else could stop The Hunter?

Porn of Mira getting gangbanged by the skeks in the lab when

If you read the creation myth comics you'd see they got the crystal /before/ they split.

means the hunter was just that dangerous

Except for Chamberlain

Fucker was gonna crush Rian's skull in front of every Gelfling. Brutal.

Archer and Hunter both seem fairly unique examples of both their races.

Hunter was pretty OP, if he'd been around in the movie the protags would have gotten fucked hard.

Or maybe not, if the darkening moved so far he ran low on things to hunt he might've gone to the castle and killed every Skesis just so they'd stop messing with his prey.

He gave that bitch nigga Rian a chance. Even if he won't HESITATE to shank a motherfucker, it takes quite a bit to actually get him to that point. It took a long, long succession of bullying from skekvar to bring him to >you took my seat

skektual healing

>>And when I mmmMMMMmmm feeling
>>I want Skektual healing

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So just how are they gonna fuck it all up
Do they even know that putting the shard back is what's needed?

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That's what makes them good at being half of a whole. They clearly have hints of being good creatures, but they keep choosing to do what is easy and cruel to get what they want.

You'd swear Augrha would be like "Oh there the fucking thing is! Every Gelfling, all of you guys! Haul ass to the castle now and get this shit back in my crystal and it literally fixes every problem! No matter how many fall this will literally save everything!"

Why is she so perfect bros?

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I've got a feeling that'll actually happen, but will ultimately fail due to Garthim holding the line and cleaning house.

Well now that I think about it, I actually can't remember. Did the return of the shard have to be done during a great Conjunction or would any time work? Would the Mystics have to already be present or would it paralyze the skeks until they got there?

Still there's very little good reason not to fucking kill the skeksis then and there so at least you have that problem out of the way

Seconding - I'm really hoping they lampshade that by starting the season out with them immediately plotting to storm the castle only to get their fucking shit wrecked

This. The Emperor has darkening tricks up his sleeve as well and there's even more Skeksis that didn't show up this season

He was the only one saying not to kill all the Gelflings at the start, literally the only one of the whole bunch. I think he did have a fondness in his heart for them, much like the scientist did his fuzzy pet. He just didn't see them as beings deserving of treating more than a favored pet. He didn't want them all to die, he certainly seemed to have fun with them, but when they turned against him he was done.

I certainly hope so.

Twas that day in Stone-In-Wood, when the jeers of the gelfling and their attacks beat his weary body. Hard he had worked to vouch for their survival, much had he suffered from his jeering comrades
But there in the forest, robes splattered and his delicate skin bruising, his heard changed
What once were fond memories, where once there were thoughts of mercy, now came only a cold hate. Hate, and the smell of peachberries

>. Did the return of the shard have to be done during a great Conjunction or would any time work?
The shard could be returned at any point, but the light of the Great Conjunction was needed in order to actually return the two races to a single being. Returning the shard was just needed because otherwise, with the crack, the crystal couldn't focus the light to repair them.

So it wouldn't fix every problem, Skesis would still be Skesis until the next great Conjunction.

>He was the only one saying not to kill all the Gelflings at the start, literally the only one of the whole bunch. I think he did have a fondness in his heart for them
lol, no - he explicitly says not to kill them all because he'd rather farm them like livestock. Chamberlain spends the entire film manipulating everyone for his own interests and betraying anyone who gets in his way. Scientist, General, the slaves, etc. He's a fucking piece of shit among pieces of shit.

>they don't really ooze trustworthy.

Although one actually oozes alot.

Rian really does need a girlfriend that doesn't have a dreamfasting in public fetish.

>wholesome personality
>sees the best in everyone
>cares for her animal bros
>cute eyes
>cute smile
>cute, huggable, lanky body
>now imbued with an ancient disease, slowly morphing her into an unimaginable eldritch threat
Deet best girl

>Urskeks
>divine creatures that look like they were hit by a bolt of lightening, float, glow brightly
>Skeks
>Nonlumminescent birds that are stuck on the ground.
>Don't actually call themselves the Urskeks.

Holy shit Augrah's eyesight must be bad.

Odd question, does anyone have good links to download the various Dark Crystal comics and novels? Especially the prequel novels that lead into the show?

She knew about them post split, its not like she went stargazing and then never ever woke up and looked around, but the last time she woke up was when her caretaker's podling grandfather was about as a child, it's just been a while.

They split, pretty much said "No yeah there was this whole thing, but we're in charge now. No worries! Still watching over your crystal!" and since this was so long ago, there wasn't any Darkening spread and the crystal was still feeding them she she figured they were ok. Remember what she said to the Scientist? She used to be friends with them once, she even called the Hunter the most beautiful of them. They went downhill FAST in the last 150 trine.

I just finished it, my god this show had SOUL.

I hope we get to see the Skeks' better natured selves in a flashback or something

Say something nice about the most abused creature in all of Thra

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That was some good shit. Can't wait for the next season when it stomps all over the characters I got attached to even knowing from the start how this all turns out.

I never actually read the novels. They worth reading at all? How much does the show actually call back to concerning them? The lore already seems a little muddled concerning Aughra and the Skeksis and their interactions.

[Spoiler] those poor slaves of the scientist[/spoilerz]
Probably the most raw scene in the whole series.

>OG SkekSo has that big gaping wound where his nostrils should be
>AoR SkekSo takes off his ornamental beak plate to reveal the festering wound while it's still fresh when he was talking to the General

It's the fucking little things with this show, man.

From the way Augrah talked about them, they were apparently either completely different on a fundamental level or they were a lot less brazen about their worst nature. The way she spoke to the Emperor especially made it seem like she and him used to be a lot closer.

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>Hate, and the smell of peachberries

Are these two things not the same?

He at least cares for some of his animals.

It's more like the novels run parallel to the show, focusing on Naia and Kylan's efforts to light the fires of resistance, but while they share a lot of major story beats, there's a lot of differences like a Grottan boy named Amri joining Naia's party, though the big one is what happens with Tavra.

Tavra ends up partly drained, having an Crystal Singer Arathim puppeteer her dying body to try and lure Naia and Kylan into a trap, though Tavra uses what little control she has to try and warn them. Culminates in Kylan managing to pull off some high risk desperation spell to switch their minds so Tavra lives on in the spider's body and the spider's mind dies with Tavra's gelfling body.

Teach her to bath.

Yeah, I'd say they're worth a read.

Can I get a quick rundown on which Gelfing clan is which?
There are 5 that fight for the crown out of 7 total right? Because everyone things underground tree people are all dead and sand gelfs never leave the desert?

No wait. I just rechecked the scene in episode 6. There are 6 tribe leaders arguing over rulership. But how is that if there are 7 and everyone thinks one is dead and the other is isolated to the desert?

No

We DO see her Threader come off and walk away so maybe she's still in there with the Ascendancy

What luck! The lords of the Crystal invited ME of all people to join them downstairs for a special surprise. What an honor!
Wish me luck guys!

The common folk think the Grots are dead because they never leave the caves, but the queens all have regular contact with each other so they know that's not true. Crazy Bitch says in that scene that the queen Grot handed in her vote by mail.

In much the same way, the sand gelflings tend not to leave the desert but their queen actually decided to attend the gelfmoot.

Boom, seven tribes.

The seventh, of the Grottan is the blind old lady who sent Deet on her quest
Since the Grottan don't go above surface much many assume they're dead

Have fun, user! Try not to let the excitement drain your energy!

The Vapra are the head clan and the aristocracy
Stonewood is Rian's clan, with the Maudra that challenged Seladon
Drenchen is Gurjin and Naia's clan, lead by their mother, that dwell in the swamp and are adapted for an amphibious lifestyle with gills and the ladies have wings that act more like fins in the water.
Sifa are the fortunetelling sailor Gelflings with the redhead and Eddie Izzard.
Spritons are a farming community in the grasslands and is where Kylan is from.
Dousans are the sand gelfs
Grottans are the cave dwellers and are actually a distant offshoot of the Vapra.

>is the blind old lady
Wait is she blind?

Also I don't think most assume they're dead, when Deet tried to meet Stone In Wood's Madura she only rattled off a bunch of kooky stuff like hanging upside down, and its not like the bullies thought she was a ghost or something and just called her a stinking Grottan.

I love they didn't just give everyone basic traits and actually fleshed out nuances to their countries, like the Vapra being a little bit more sneaky and devious and always looking to advance while another tribe is just full of assholes.

Yeah, Argot says her eyesight went and she kinda fumbles around

Harvey Fierstein as the Gourmand was a god-tier casting choice. His voice is already perfect for a Skeksis, he almost doesn't need to chamge anything.

And they arru rook da same

They don't have to die. They just have to go back.

Are Pods not considering retard Gelfling mankets?

Heretic > Chamberlain > Scientist > Emperor > General > the rest

*Heretic > Hunter > Chamberlain > Scientist > Emperor > General > the rest

Scientist > Hunter > Heretic > Emperor > General > The Rest >>> Chamberlain

...what

>The virgin Podling
>The chad Gelfling

>puppets doing puppets
This is some inception fuckery.

Reminder that the Gelflings would still act like Podlings and probably eat their own shit if the Skeksis didn't teach them how to build a proper civilization.

>both get btfo to the brink of near extinction
Hardly chad behavior

>Comparing the chad Hup to a pathetic gelfling cuck.

The man took on three to one odds with a fucking spoon, and WON.

What blew my fucking mind was just how good the metapuppet effects looked. You had a guy in a Skeksis puppet doing finger puppets with his fake fingers for fuck's sake.

>the virgin mystic
>the chad skeksi

Hold on. Is there a third princess sister that only becomes relevant near the end?

Around Gelflings...

>Hunter is the only Skeksis so based even his mystic half was a goddamn badass who tanked stabbing himself to near death with arrows

Why did the coolest pair have to die anons?

What? No, she's relevant as soon as Rian escapes, she's the one met him in the tavern and magic-touched him, she's the one who ends up trying to spread the word and gets captured.

She had a pretty big role throughout the show, just not as big as her sisters until she got braingot.

The All-Maudra has three daughters: Seladon (the oldest one, who's kind of a stuck up bitch), Tavra (the down to earth one who's a paladin), and Brea (the Purple Smart wannabe). All three are plot relevant.

a perimeter create

The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long.

They really did shine in this show, they were barely in it but every time they did it was some major event. Skesis were getting punked on in the final battle and you just felt the whole tide of the war shift when Hunter showed up on the screen, just in the span of half a second it looked like they went from winning to hopeless.

hunter/archer too OP and had to be nerfed otherwise the movie would have been over much quicker

Why do they even need the general when there is the Hunter? The General even fucking runs away when like 5 Gelflings attack to free Rian. Hunter dabs all over the General.

>Why do they even need the general when there is the Hunter?
Did you not see them shit themselves when Chamberlain blew the horn? They were pretty sure Hunter was going to flay the guy just for having the audacity to call him.

hunter doesn't play the politics and would just shank the first fucker who tried to play that game with if he was in the castle

>kind of a stuck up bitch
>kind of
Understatement of the trine
>Hunter was literally too angry to die
>THRICE
MVP

>mfw "You. Took. My. Seat."

Chamberlain is a cold motherfucker. He even twisted the damn knife.

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Hunter wouldn't want to command an army. He wants one on one fight. He probably wouldn't have enjoyed fighting the mindcontrolled Gelflings either.

There was an Archer in the movie though. I guess it was a fakeout like the General.

It is time to make... my MOVE to the next thread

This. Crotches have stuff in them, even on women. The clothing moves across the bulge in a realistic fashion. Its why mannequins have bulges

It was also probably funny

I get why they did it but they should have forgone the gratuitous CGI on the Hunter
It kinda breaks the feels a bit. Him being able to just fucking book it on the ground was threatening enough

>mfw the Hunter yeeted Rian across the ground

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Gelfling
Pets or Meat?

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Why not both, hmmmm

If you wanted to eat Gelfling meat, it'd probably taste like shit. It's the essence you're after. So pet.

I liked it because it gives you an idea of how dynamic and impressive the Skeksis must have been when they were all young and fit.

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HOES

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Because Robin Williams. Stuntcasting for the Genie proved idiotic successful, so since then, everybody is doing it, even if there's no merit to it.

Any drawfags willing to draw Deet in Jen's gangsta attire from this sketch

>Hunter was the strongest killing untold amount of dangerous creatures and warriors over the years
>but he's heavily antisocial with the others
>Heretic/Conquerer was the best warrior having conquered multiple places/peoples/etc.
>goes batty and Genral is given control over Skeskis troops
>next General is strong enough to crush the Gelflings completely outsmart Chamberlain, and ultimately become the new Emperor

Basiaclly the more Alpha skeskis cant stand to be around the rest of em unless they're in a huge position of power with Chamberlain probably being a unique example since he's the master of manipulation, not outright combat

Literally CGI shit

This isn't Yea Forums user. You're allowed to like things.

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