>quippy dialogue is out of control
>using loki's staff again as the macguffin again
>mind controlled avengers again
>Avengers together again for a fucking Hydra base even though the end of 1 makes it seem like they'll only gather again for a major crisis
>the incredibly awkward birth of Vision, which is horribly illogical given how they made Ultron
>Quicksilver is given about 10 lines, then dies
>the plot literally stopping to give you previews of the next couple of MCU movies
>Tony's role in Wanda and Pietro's life is brushed over because the plot needs it to
>Nick Fury and Shield showing up in the climax to basically nullify Winter Soldier's resolution
>not necessarily the movie's issue, but why even do Ultron if you're going to introduce Hank Pym a few months later
Why did no one fix Age of Ultron at the script level?
Quippy dialogue is out of control
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Executive meddling the movie. Basically everyone had their fingers in AoU. Bendis, Quesada, Iger, Dan Buckley, Alan Fine, all were shoe-horning in ideas, on top of what was a pretty weak script ultimately. Because everyone's ideas had to be given time, no one's ideas got enough, and none of it really gelled. If you strip out all the teasers for future movies and use that screentime for the twins, developing Ultron, and then later Vision, it all would work.
This plus people where high on the idea Whedon delivering the first Avengers movie that they overlooked his flaws
They made the villain Ultron because Whedon wanted him. He wanted him to be the villain in the first Avengers movie even.
Damn this movie really must be the red headed step child of the mcu
There was nothing wrong with Ultron's character, it's just that the script didn't give him enough to do
>not necessarily the movie's issue, but why even do Ultron if you're going to introduce Hank Pym a few months later
Because mcu Ultron is a Tony Stark invention
Thing is even if you have issues with quips Whedon is probably the only saving grace of the movie. He insisted on the farm scene being there and given enough time, and the party hammer lifting scene also screams Whedon. Those 2 scenes as well as some lines of dialogue really developed the interpersonal relations between Avengers, which is really the main positive you can get from this movie and a building block for later movies.
Not when Incredible Hulk and Thor Dark World exist.
It introduced Wanda, and Lizzie makes my pengis hard
Age of Ultron is great, Avengers 1 is overrated garbage.
Ultron was the most intimidating right at the beginning when he was the broken Stark drone, and then he jobbed the rest of the movie.
That robot was so fucking sexy!
The parts of the movie that really work are all things Whedon fought for. The dialogue is what it is, could be better, but people really fixated on individual lines as if that's a critical flaw.
Why? Bitch looks old as ass
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The thing that gets me most is the reception of the "language" line. Sure the line itself may be slightly out of character for Cap and is making a joke at his expense, but it and its callbacks really participate in building the Avengers as a real group of people who spend time with each other and banter.
>Oh,you have something you want to say to me? I couldn’t quite hear you over the sound of my extremely successful and lucrative acting career.
Well,you know what they say:You gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette.
>Avengers together again for a fucking Hydra base even though the end of 1 makes it seem like they'll only gather again for a major crisis
the last movie (aside from Guardians) was Winter Soldier, where SHIELD was found out to be infested with Hydra and subsequently collapsed
Cap gathered the Avengers to clean up Hydra because they're a world wide threat, especially now knowing that all the shit SHIELD had (like the scepter) was actually in evil hands
>Nick Fury and Shield showing up in the climax to basically nullify Winter Soldier's resolution
At the end of Winter Soldier, Nick Fury says he's going to Europe to finish off the "rats didn't go down with the ship." So him showing up in Europe with some SHIELD resources makes sense, even without any kind of AoS tie-in.
You brought up WS but didn't even realize it solves two of your problems.
>>quippy dialogue is out of control
Not really. The Quipping is fine and eveything else delivered by Ultron is good:
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>>using loki's staff again as the macguffin again
Not really, it had already been established it was linked to the infinity stones.
>>mind controlled avengers again
Wanda's power are not mind control. It simply unleash their fears.
>>Avengers together again for a fucking Hydra base even though the end of 1 makes it seem like they'll only gather again for a major crisis
You mean, like Hydra owning Loki's staff? Also, Winter Soldier had happened, and the Avengers basiclly took over SHIELD's job.
>>the incredibly awkward birth of Vision, which is horribly illogical given how they made Ultron
One of the best moment in the movie and make perfect sense.
>>Quicksilver is given about 10 lines, then dies
sad
>>the plot literally stopping to give you previews of the next couple of MCU movies
Wrong. Thor's vision are essential to the plot and are what make him decide to side with Stark and create Vision.
>>Tony's role in Wanda and Pietro's life is brushed over because the plot needs it to
It's not. The twin simply realise they are about to make something even worst.
>>Nick Fury and Shield showing up in the climax to basically nullify Winter Soldier's resolution
So now you remember Winter Soldier? It doesn't nullify it, it's the scrap of it Nick could gahter after it.
>>not necessarily the movie's issue, but why even do Ultron if you're going to introduce Hank Pym a few months later
Ant-man wasstuck in development hell. The script still orked that way.
>Why did no one fix Age of Ultron at the script level?
At the scrip level it work perfectly almost none of the complain are valid. that hate for it is unwarranted. It's like you are willingly ignoring things just so you can create fake reasons to be angry.