Morning Yea Forums, here's that Ben Garrison thread you asked for

Based Tina.

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>Kind of like how global cooling was when I was a kid.
How old are ya sport?

Thing is "climate change" means literally nothing
If you're familiar with Earth's climatic shifts over tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands and even millions of years then really nothing impressive is going.
For example, Earth will never be as hot as it was only a few million years ago. We're not going to turn into Venus - we're going to turn into Mars.

The last catastrophic climate shift was roughly 10,000 years ago around when something triggered a cataclysm worldwide.
I'm not worried about humans or beef or cars or any of that nonsense.
No, I'm far more worried about the eventuality of another asteroid fucking up the weather like they do every so often. Cosmic events are almost always the trigger for mass extinction.

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There isn't a record of it changing this rapidly before, the human impact is very apparent.

If the West decided to let Africa starve because supporting parasites unable to feed themselves is retarded, the 7 billion thing would go away.
And regardless of whether antropomorphic climate change is real or not (funny how the UN has been screaming we have 10 years left for 40 years now), the "measures" proposed are beyond moronic anyways.

BASED Trump

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holy based

It was always climate change. Hell, I remember when I was a kid and people called it that. Global warming just got popular in terms of common usage...Also the predictions for rate of change were fairly accurate if you're referring to published models. Keep in mind, I'm referencing the boring and not at all glamorous publications in journals. The kind that reference Milankovitch cycles and planetary albedo. You know, the ones no one actually reads but has really, really strong opinions on.

The thing most people reference is what they saw in over-inflated headlines. It was like the hackers on steroids thing back in the day. Yeah, it's referencing a real thing and it sort of resembles the thing in question, but it's deliberately overblown for the purpose of making an eye catching story. Clickbait existed back in the day too, it was just called fluff pieces.

Yes, but those climate shifts were over a long period of time. We're also never going to turn into Venus or Mars. Greenhouse emissions don't produce an endlessly exponential increase in temperature. It has diminishing returns. It's why those previous periods of heating slowly "turned around". That, and the odds of getting hit by an asteroid or any celestial body is ludicrously low. The universe is bloody big, it's expanding, and it's mostly empty. Well, "empty" if you want to get pedantic, but you know what I mean. Besides, If anything is going to slap our shit in from outside our planet it's going to happen so fast we couldn't even react to it even if we somehow knew about it, like a gamma ray burst.

I'd hardly call most of the measures moronic. A decrease in the amount of meat consumption, more investment into "clean" energy sources, and more public transportation all seem both sensible and fiscally reasonable.

I really wish he'd lay off the tariffs...and why does Ben draw Trump as a svelte dude? He's tubby and old. It'd be like drawing Sanders with a six pack.

Climate change doesn't need to be as drastic as all that to have really serious consequences. We have built society on certain assumptions about our climate and disrupting that system can have serious economic impacts, from agriculture to building design to the location of major population centers.

You can't mix globalism and communism

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You shouldn't care about libtards and their "climate change" retardation, but you should care about research and development into alternative energy, because oil is objectively a finite resource.

Unless you're trying to create Global Communism.

Weird, because all I hear communists spout is that it's "not real communism" until everywhere is communist.

What a pseudointellectual retard you are

Ah, but that would mean a free market solution which is unacceptable. Why do you think every free energy patent is sealed for "national security" reasons? If even one overunity device actually worked it would make oil obsolete overnight.

BASED BEN

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That sounds like that never going to happen unless they wanted war.

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There is literally nothing wrong with searching for green energy and decreasing pollution tho, maybe niggas in US have decided to use it to support whatever they pretend to support, but those ideas are good, better than still using fucking coal

Is Ben an unironic white supremacist?

>I'd hardly call most of the measures moronic.
You clearly haven't heard the idiots calling for a Carbon Tax. That's literally the reason the French protested last year.
>decrease in the amount of meat consumption
Humans need meat, veganism is unhealthy.
>more investment into "clean" energy sources
If this excludes nuclear then forget it. FYI, solar and wind cannot function on their own nor everywhere. Plus, panels (as well as batteries) do not have a clean manufacturing process at all.
>public transportation
It's true American cities are 60% parking lots but public transportation tends to be objectively shit

Green energy in its current state cannot run a power grid by itself, and greenies hate nuclear

>communists
>giving a shit about the environment
China's the reason our oceans are filled with plastic, and the air pollution is so bad in their cities you can die from staying outside for too long.

They're imaginary thought bubbles.

No, he's actually on point. I would encourage you to listen to Doug Vogt's lectures on youtube. It sounds nuts but he provides a lot of data to back up the idea that the sun drives climate change and also undergoes a dramatic event every 12,068 years.

>BURGER EDUCATION INTENSIFIES

Also don't forget that time the Ruskies erased a lake and dumped their nuclear sludge on another lake

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>white supremacist
No, he just shows the truth through cartoons. Sometimes that truth is uncomfortable so tge Left uses that phrase and others to keep themselves from having to acknowledge it.

>We're also never going to turn into Venus or Mars.
No, we are quite literally in the middle of turning into Mars. We are getting cooler and the magnetosphere is weakening. The planet will dry up long before the sun turns into a red giant.
>That, and the odds of getting hit by an asteroid or any celestial body is ludicrously low.
On any given day, sure.
In 10,000 years? Pretty good.
The Earth is constantly being hit with space debris that burns up, whereas climate changing asteroids are rarer but seem to show up quite a few times over 100,000.
You're conflating these actually pretty common events with extinction level asteroids which hit in million year intervals.
Earth being hit by asteroids is not a possibility - it's an eventuality.
>Besides, If anything is going to slap our shit in from outside our planet it's going to happen so fast we couldn't even react to it even if we somehow knew about it, like a gamma ray burst.
How many times have gamma ray bursts killed all life on Earth? Zero?
How many times have asteroids and volcanic activity killed all life on Earth? Three or four times now?

>turning into Mars
In another couple million years we will be Mars, and will probably BE where Mars is now orbitally speaking.

dunno if you guys are color-blind but the color green wasn't a random artistic choice en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eco-socialism

>Jar is empty and in ruins

I want Ben to start drawing futanari porn. I just want to see his AOC with a fat brown hard cock, that's not unreasonable.

Billion, not million.
The sun is extremely stable and relatively young.

I think he was always white, dude.

> why does Ben draw Trump as a svelte dude? He's tubby and old.
FAKE NEWS DIALATE MORE

I like when Garrison flips on a person and their caricature goes from adonisesque to grotesque or vice versa. Ben's comics are fun as hell regardless of politics.

>this isn't faux dive

The feedback loop eventually runs out of fuel. The sea levels will rise. There will be mass desertification around the equator. The ocean will experience a mass die off, though certain species will explosively fill the niches (although we'll likely have to help that along with mass coral farming just so it doesn't take too damn long).

On the plus side, a ton of new farmland, property values will skyrocket on the new beachfront, and the Northwest Passage will open.

This.

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>Kind of like how global cooling was when I was a kid.
Global cooling was never the scientific consensus. It got headlines precisely because it was a weird result.

>I just want to see his AOC with a fat brown horse cock
Fixed that for you
Also drawfags get on it

>You clearly haven't heard the idiots calling for a Carbon Tax. That's literally the reason the French protested last year.

Depends on implementation, honestly. Though it's unlikely to be easily measured and by what metric so I'd say that's largely untenable. I wouldn't go that route anyway. Some ideas may be silly, but the ones I mentioned are fine.

>Humans need meat, veganism is unhealthy.
Decrease is not removal. I appreciate a good strawman now and again but put some effort into it. Veganism can be healthy as well, it's just a massive ton of work for something that can more easily be achieved by including meat into a diet.

>If this excludes nuclear then forget it. FYI, solar and wind cannot function on their own nor everywhere. Plus, panels (as well as batteries) do not have a clean manufacturing process at all.

Yes, research into nuclear as well as fusion (probably a pipe dream, but still) would be fine. Regardless of the ability for one type to work "everywhere" the fact remains using them as well as investing in the development of more effective and less environmentally impactful energy storage would also be a solid idea.

>It's true American cities are 60% parking lots but public transportation tends to be objectively shit

No, AMERICAN public transportation tends to be shit. Back in the days of the red car it wasn't even that bad but that model isn't really possible. The point is that it can function just fine provided it's done correctly...so why not hop on it?

Okay, let me rephrase. We won't be Venus or Mars in an appreciable timetable. Better? As for space debris, yes, I'm referring to objects sufficiently sized to do serious damage. It's probable we'll be smacked by an asteroid at some point but I'm talking about within a reasonable time table. We've had two mass extinctions by asteroid and the scale is in millions of years. Even then, why worry about it? We aren't stopping it or even likely detecting it before it hits.

Well she's already got the face for it

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>Global cooling was never the scientific consensus.
Kind of like global warming, eh?

No? Manmade global warming is supported by the entire scientific community except for rent-a-statisticians working for oil companies.

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>AOC'S BAR NOICE

The ol' Garrison finger twirl. Has anyone seen someone do this irl?

>Manmade global warming is supported by the entire scientific community
Nope, global warming is officially fake news
They call it climate change now, goy

Retards who cannot comprehend technology advancing hate nuclear, all we can hope for is people accepting thorium as the best alternative

Why are Americans so strongly against helping their fellow man?

I'm only aware of it as a gesture for "let's wrap this shit up!" and I've only even seen it used in film or television.

Global warming is a component of climate change. So are stronger storms. So is desertification. So is a lot of stuff.

"Got mine fuck you" is deeply ingrained in the 'yee-haw manly man' culture. It also helps people ignore their privilege if they can pretend they boot strapped themselves into success instead of inheriting it.

>globalism
its like the monster under your bed

THESE THREADS ARE KABUKI THEATRE COORDINATED BY RIGHTIST DISCORDS

We're taught that getting help makes you lazy and that you should pull yourself up by your bootstraps. Never mind that the origin of that phrase was to describe an impossible and patently absurd act.

Where can I find these "rightist discords"? They sound based.

>Why are Americans so strongly against helping their fellow man?
Because we're too busy helping Mexicans.

Is the moral here to not even check if it's a facade? It says "no exit" as if a single bill or president can't undo progress in that direction. Political comics like this are often better at revealing embarrassing thought processes than making any real point.

>Buggygeig

eh

Also Marianne's and Kamala are lookin' pretty good here.

eh his name has been circulating around a bit lately

Libertarian thought came into vogue, even on Yea Forums. It was an edgy and fresh alternative to the neo-con establishment that had been a massive embarrassment with the Bush years and the elections that followed. The republican party looked to rebrand themselves through a trial period of Sarah Palin drinking a big gulp in front of a cheering crowd and Romney calling corporations people (and jews culturally superior). We arrived at 2016 with an exhausted party that wanted to get excited. Trump was the answer as he was Independent until he wanted Republican money.

Intentionally retarded goblin

His fake populist shtick drew me in that's for sure. I'm truly left wondering why anyone is riding the Trump Train at this point though.

There isn't a record of it changing this rapidly before.*

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Get ye gone, goblin

They are intentionally retarded goblins

a combo of sunk cost fallacy and steady stream of koch funded rage bait about blue haired college freshmen