Why did many Hanna-Barbera characters have cameos in the earlier Cartoon Network shows like Dexter's Lab, Johnny Bravo, I am Weasel, Billy and Mandy etc..?
Fred Flintstone even had an episode dedicated to him in both Johnny Bravo and Billy & Mandy, that's how much CN filled these HB cameos for no reason
Those shows canonically take place in the Hanna-Barbera-verse along with Venture Brothers.
Lincoln Mitchell
A lot of people who worked on those shows came from HB studios. In a way, the Cartoon cartoons era was like a successor to Hanna-Barbera. Those cameos were something of an inside joke.
Mason Foster
Because Hanna Barbera studios made those.
Henry Reyes
The early CN shows were produced at Hanna-Barbera Productions, you could even say that the Cartoon Cartoons were a transitional period for CN from being the HB channel to its own thing.
Everyone who worked on those shows, worked for Hanna-Barbera until 2001. They even grew up with HB's classics.
Shit excuses, you don't see Bugs Bunny in DC Capeshit shows purely because it's under Warner Bros do you?
Sebastian Parker
I guess you're just kinda stupid, then. Take a studio that has classic but now nonexistent IPs, then take bored animators making new shows, and you end up with cameo nods as inside jokes.
>Bugs Bunny in DC capeshit Where the fuck have you been, retard? Looney Tunes and DC have had crossovers for a while. Hell, Duck Dodgers and Green Lantern even had a crossover.
It's normal for studios to have fun cameos or crossovers with their IPs.
Jaxon Harris
>bugs was batman and superman
Nolan Williams
Cartoon Network was owned by the same company that owned Hanna Barbera and they initially used the channel to play a shit ton of the old material, while getting the studio to produce a new range of cartoons.
Nathaniel Parker
Ok what about you explain first what YOUR beef with these cameos?...
Julian Gray
>you don't see Bugs Bunny in DC Capeshit shows purely because it's under Warner Bros do you? Yes. It happens quite often.
CN use to originally be wholly owned by Hanna-Barbera, so that's why. For the longest time CN was just a HB cartoon dumping ground until things like What a Cartoon! appeared which included pilots for famous shows like Dexter's Lab, Johnny Bravo, Cow and Chicken, Powerpuff Girls and Courage the Cowardly Dog.
Joshua Ortiz
>excuses What does this even mean? You're acting like it's a bad thing.
Elijah Lee
Hanna-Barbera shows are the reason why animation was so shit in the 60's and 70's, with their limited animation, terrible voice acting and Scooby Doo rip-offs up the ass. These shitters are the reason why stuff like Tom & Jerry, Looney Tunes and Classic Disney shorts were no more due to TV shows being cheaper to produce and no going to the movies.
By showing these characters appear in actual good cartoons shows that they aren't ashamed of what they have done and pretends they are the good guys all along
William Mitchell
Let's remind you that Cartoon Network Studios became its own studio in 2001. Between 1996 and 2001, it was just a division of Hanna-Barbera Cartoons, where the crew of Dexter, Johnny, C&C and PPG would work. And with the library that HB has, some cameos and crossovers were inevitable.
Also, Cartoon Network pre-WAC! was just the "Hanna-Barbera/Warner Bros. Channel" or "Proto-Boomerang".
Yes, but HB did more good than bad. They created timeless and recognizable characters, proved with the Flintstones that cartoons can handle the primetime slot, Scooby-Doo has been proven to be a timeless and infinitely rebootable classic in the likes of Doctor Who and they influenced thousands of animators worldwide, including the ones who worked on the Cartoon Cartoons.
Jose Bailey
i watched as a kid roughly at the same time i watched the actual looney tunes and i didn't mind, it was cool and so 90's you can taste the Xtreme
I would be mad but that last season was a satisfying peak and I'm okay with it
Samuel Robinson
Sadly for you, Loonatics is pretty 2000s as it ran from 2005-2007. It tried to be Batman Beyond, but it was Cringe Over The Edge
Cameron Campbell
how come?
Nicholas Ward
HB lowered standards of quality for decades and hurt animation as an art form. I don't care how much merch they sell with their shitty characters. We're still reeling from the ghetto they forced cartoons into.
Luis Lee
You can only have one Looney Tunes incarnation on the air at the time so they don't overlap, same thing with Scooby Doo.
Justin Hill
Same with Batman and Scooby-Doo - only one incarnation of the show, no overlap.
Jaxson Morris
>MOO
The creators grew up on those shows
Grayson Campbell
Because Dexter's Lab, Johnny Bravo, I am Weasel are all Hanna-Barbara cartoons? How old are you? Do you remember each show ending with a bunch of goofy noises and a guitar clunk and showing Hanna-Barbara in an oval? As for Billy and Mandy, Ted Turner and Turner Broadcasting bought Hanna-Barbara, and then promptly started Cartoon Network. Cartoon network used to be NOTHING but old Hanna-Barbara, Looney Tunes, and Tom & Jerry cartoons 24/7. Thus Cartoon Network owns Hanna-Barabara, they can put any Hanna-Barbara cartoon in any Cartoon Network show they want. Thats why Scooby Doo was in Johnny Bravo, why Dynomutt and Blue Falcon were in Dexter's Lab, why Adult Swim could use Space Ghost for a talkshow, why they can make a crude cartoon out of Sealab, and why Fred was in Billy and Mandy.
And yet they were partially responsible for why Cartoon Cartoons were so great. Or are you just willing to hate on HB for two decades of shit (70s and 80s) compared to three more decades of goodness. (50s/60s and 90s/very early 2000s)
Jacob Price
Yet it was Hanna-Barbera that pioneered televised animation as we know of today. Yet it was Hanna-Barbera's library that kickstarted the Cartoon Network. Yet it was Hanna-Barbera's staff that shaped the late 90s to early 2000s.
Hanna-Barbera may had some bad times, but it was revolutionary when it was good. And when it was good, it was good.
Juan Reed
HB is the reason why Don Bluth failed
Matthew White
>Hanna-Barbera >Mostly TV animation >Don Bluth >Theatrical animation You must be fucking retarded. Bluth didn't fail because of HB, Bluth failed because of executive meddling, Disney's Renaissance and just bad luck.
Same reason new cartoons have sonic and Minecraft in them, you are just mad in a few year we'll have a fortnite cameo in family guy
Jonathan Jenkins
Nah dude. Animation going to shit was the result of television exploding and budgets being cut left and right.
HB did their best to adapt by replacing fluid and expensive animation with limited animation and simple character designs. They would make up for it with god tier voice acting.
It is true that limited animation was and continues to be misused a lot (either because of greed or incompetence) but HB aren't to blame for that. They paved the road, whenever or not this road would lead to quality was up to those who followed them.
Martian Manhunter once turned into Bugs Bunny in one of those DC DTV films
Colton Ward
My only awnser to that is >why not? Also Hannah Barbers do what they want nowadays when it comes to any IP that isn't Scooby Doo. They wanna make up a mess of fun and make The Flintstones into an extisential politicial satire comparable to the Golden Age of the Simpsons then god dammit they're going to make up a mess of fun and make The Flintstones into an extisential politicial satire comparable to the Golden Age of the Simpsons.
What I wanna ask is why don't people do cameos anymore? Immersion?
Christopher Collins
I swear to Christ I had this episode on tape when I was a kid but I know for a fact I had no Johnny Bravo home media, this was included in a tape for something else like a Scooby Doo movie right? Tell me I’m not crazy.
Brody Morales
lmao fucking idiot btfo
Benjamin Young
This. Those shows even used many of the same sound effects.
Justin Peterson
Daffy was a Green Lantern once.
Landon Ward
/m/ here, dumb question but is there any chance the folks at Warner Brothers will get off their asses and release the 70s Godzilla series in its entirety?
You're retarded, and no the creators and workers at Hanna Barbera are not 'ashamed' of Fred Flinstone just because you didn't like Jabberjaw
Jace Gonzalez
>Why did many Hanna-Barbera characters have cameos in the earlier Cartoon Network shows Because Cartoon Network is the corporate continuation of Hanna-Barbera?
Yea Forums has the tendency to get someone irrationally angry over things that don't actually exist or matter so they have an excuse to make threads and interact with people in the only way they know how; arguing.
Eli Green
What's wrong with it, bros? IT'S INFINITELY BETTER THAN ANYTHING THE 2010s GAVE US.
The generic 2000s cartoons could rank up as GOD-TIER compared to the 2010s cartoons.
Adam Sanders
Star an online fan club, and make a petition. It worked for a lot of 90’s shows.
Henry Gray
Because Hanna-Barbera produced all the Cartoon Network shows between 1996 and 2001, before they spun off into Cartoon Network Studios. Everyone from Tartakovsky and Feiss to McCracken and Atoms has worked for the company.
Chase Hill
Why don't they make any new Flintstones shows and movies? The latest one was that WWE shit from 2015, and before that was the Flintstones on the Rocks special from 2001 which became lost for over a decade.
What gives?
Cameron Ross
They actually did make a new series recently, Yabba Dabba Dinosaurs, done by the guy who did the Henry and June parts of Kablam. Apparently it was cancelled before it was even all released, and should be getting dumped all on the Boomerang app sometime within the next few months. They also announced another series last month, outside of it being a "a primetime animated adult comedy" no actual info about it has been released yet
>Why don't they make any new Flintstones shows and movies? Because it's 2019 and The Honeymooners came out in 1955. We need cavemen Malcom in the Middle or something.
Blake Lewis
>Witness Bill Hanna’s responses during an interview with Eugene Slafer: “Are you accomplishing what you believe is good TV animation?” asked Slafer. “No, I do not,” came Hanna’s candid reply. > To a further probe, “Have you ever been ashamed of your work, especially since parents have ranted about the general lack of quality on Saturday morning cartoon shows?” Hanna admitted, “Actually I feel like I should crawl under a seat sometimes.” michaelspornanimation.com/splog/?p=1755
People have been trying to make a proper Flintstones revival for years. There was going to be a Seth Macfarlane Flintstones back in 2013, but it got scrapped when Seth decided to focus on his movies.
Tbh Billy and Mandy had a lot of GOOD crossovers and cameos who weren't forced like NUcartoon does,they even make edd,edd and Eddy come back for the invasion special
Did Antonucci approve of this? I thought he hated crossovers
Michael Brooks
I can only guess he was more or less fine with a quick gag, not a all out crossover.
Parker Rivera
I'd assume he did since the scene was done by his animation studio. Plus doesn't he own the rights to the show or something?
Jacob Anderson
This was the ONLY good thing King ever wrote.
Connor Martinez
Because early on CN programmation consisted mostly of old HB and WB cartoons.
Bentley Ross
The Flintstones is better than at least half of what this place considers "Golden Age CN".
Samuel Thompson
Yes. Antonucci had enough balls to demand from CN to keep the IP and have full creative control. I mean, CN was still a young and small network in 1997 with only having Moxy, Space Ghost, Dexter, C&C and Johnny as its original content, and they knew Nick also saw potential in it. So, why not give it to him?
Grayson Fisher
Not that user, but the first 3 seasons before Pebbles and BamBam came along were alright, not H-Bs BEST work, but definitely up there. When those 2 were introduced the show started being written more for the kids and less for the parents. There's a reason why the On The Rocks movie tried to be more "mature" with it's writing and left out Pebbles and BB. Also Great Gazoo was literally just a final season effort to boost ratings, he always sucked