In all seriousness, would Steven have any chance of turning Zim good?

Fucking no retard

>Sorry, you'll have to move along, hideous goblin

>What if he had to go up against someone who likes that way they are, just like him, but instead of being kind and gentle, they're a completely evil, destructive, and relish in it?
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That could be fun

>In all seriousness, would Steven have any chance of turning Zim good?

No, but holy shit that would be an amazing show. Every week Steven would try to win over Zim and Zim would just blithely misunderstand everything and shoot Steven in the face with a squirrel launcher or something.

Gems kick Zim's ass but they fail in trying to imprison him, ultimately resulting in the destruction of their base of operations and his returning to his old ways.

Would the Crystal Gems be able to take down the Planet Jackers if they tried to steal the SU Earth?

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Can you post the vid this is from?

youtu.be/J7grFORQLIo

Been a while since I've seen this episode, don't they engulf the entire planet in a large sphere? I guess it depends on if they can bust a hole in it in time.

Steven will make Zim reveals his identity to human

>In all seriousness, would Steven have any chance of turning Zim good?
Good? No.
Stop destroying Earth? Possibly.

Zim is a narcissist. If Steven can convince him that he doesn't need the Tallest's and the best way to show off his superiority is to be Earth's savior then he'd be less of a threat to Earth. That said I still wouldn't call him "good". That's like saying Homelander is the good guy because he saves people.

Damn that's some good editing.

Outside of somehow getting aboard their ship and beating them up, no. You'd have to travel the circumference of the Earth to break the shell

Zim is a weird character that basically becomes more dangerous when you take him more seriously. Also unlike the gems, he isn’t lazy on his objectives and can fuck you over pretty hard when you ever assume a victory from him.

The Irken seem extremely petty and self-absorbed at the best of times, and Zim is apparently a defective model, so that might be the most efficient route to take under the circumstances.

Thanks

I would if I wasn't sure as shit that the new antagonist will get redeemed by the talk no justu.

Zim would cuck him

I do really want to see Lapis domming Zim now

Given that Zim is usually a boob but is capable of being competent (albeit not always consistently), he'd probably assume some kind of arch-nemesis relationship with the CG's where he periodically shows up to cause havoc but is usually foiled.

Yes, but the newly reformed "protector of Urf" Zim somehow manages to be more destructive than his normal self. Steven is grounded for another 100 years

With Lapis?

That's a boring way to live life. Who knows, maybe the TNJ will be delivered in a new way. We already see her decking Steven in the face which puts her pretty up there on the antagonist scale.

Nobody cares about that greentext

>Dib finally finds someone who believes him

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He did. Her name is Peridot.

Fuck SU. A Rick and Morty crossover could be more fun.

Speaking of Peri. are the Tallest wearing limb enhancers of some kind? Never really understood that

Dib probably has Ronaldo blocked on tumblr

Actually, there would be no gems remaining to ground Steven. After all, the earth could die from a simple gem threat. So instead of dealing with them for forever, why couldn’t we wipe them out for good?

>Rick and Morty
Please go back already

>where Zim fell in love with Earth
That's just Peridot.

Oh believe, seeing her fully dedicated to whopping Steven's ass makes hopeful, and I would love see how Steven fares against some he can't talk into submission, but this Becky SweetnLow we're talking about. Singing and talking is how she makes the donuts.

True. Hope you enjoy it either way, should you decide to watch it

Nah bitch, the first two seasons and the Aussie special were great.

The Zim special even had Justin voicing a few characters.

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>could be referring to either character and also op
Underrated post.

You can't change mentally damaged

Ultimately the main issue a lot of the people Steven reforms is that they aren't happy with themselves, and are trying to hide/kill that part of themselves through their deeds and personalities, Steven basically teaches them to try accepting themselves for who they are and quite lashing out at the world instead.
Zim on the other hand absolutely fucking loves himself, he's literally perfect in his own eyes and believes without a single doubt in his mind that the Tallest adore him.

It'd be like Kevin, the only "villain" Steven couldn't reform, times a million.

It’s goofy to think that Lars out of all characters is the only character that has good writing in his reformation.

Kevin's basically half reformed already after Kevin Party. Steven doesn't hate him anymore and Kevin got something cool for his party without having to exploit Stevonnie. I predict one more episode and they'll be like casual friends

It'd work too. There's a nick comic that, at least until florpus, was the closet to official ending to Zim since Vasquez drew it. Zim figured out how to slightly improve his disquise (wiggle his thumbs different) and distracted Dib for a few seconds. This was enough time to successfully take over the world.

maybe if zim were afraid of lightning but I don't think he is sweetheart.

yes, he is a user of the legendary forbidden technique: talk no jutsu, so i do not think he would have much difficulty with zim.

>"Nah bitch"
>Enjoyed Bushworld
Back to plebbit

>Preridot wanted to impress the Diamonds
>Zim wanted to impress the Greatest
I see no difference, so why not.

The problem here is that I just don't think Zim has it in him to actually value human esteem. He plainly hates NOT being taken seriously by them, but that's just rage and contempt on his part. I don't think he would ever really get anything out of the esteem of any living being that isn't the Almighty Tallest.

Peridot is literally the SU Zim, from IZ mega-fan from childhood Rebecca Sugar. That's as official an answer for the SU universe as you're going to get.

The huge difference is the tone of the two shows though. IZ is probably too hopeless, SU is probably too hopeful. With the SU tone, Zim is redeemed, only sort of anyway. With the IZ tone, Steven is randomly killed for no reason because existing is nihilistically pointless suffering in an Evil Capitalist TM Hell Dimension and everything is better off dead ASAP. Both are kind of ideological masturbation.

Since nearly everyone in IZ is meant to be retarded but in SU they're not meant to be (writing criticisms aside), I'll go with the argument already put forth on "neutral" ground that they could probably outsmart Zim. He wouldn't be "good," but they could convince him he'd already conquered Earth or some shit, and get him to harmlessly fuck around happily somewhere. Kind of like Peridot but much more bleak and cynical. Maybe more like tricking the Rubies to be dark, who despite being handled nicely with kid gloves were literally BTFO to float aimlessly in the void of space for eternity. And they probably had more common sense than Zim.

>Irkens serve the tallest
>Gems served the diamonds, who are the tallest of their race
SU is basically Rebecca's Zim OC fanfic and I'll never not love her for that. No way Ronaldo isn't based on Dib too

Oh, look. Two shows made by basic millennials for retarded zoomers. Forgive both redundancies.

>it's made by a younger generation for a younger generation
Yes, and?

>made by a shit generation for a shit generation
You're welcome.

>a whole generation is shit
That sounds unlikely. How old are you?

I'm speaking in generality. I'm sure there are many people in my relative age group who aren't absolute fucking urchins, but I've yet to meet more than a handful.

How old are you, user?

I'm 21, turning 22 in about a month. Why?

Not him but just...settle down a bit buddy. Be the zoomer you want to see in the world.

Zero, Zim is a delusional megalomaniac

What? Man, Jhonen's gotta be Gen X at youngest. Hell, some IZ crew and staff were probably Boomers, it started in the late 1990s. Most zoomers weren't born yet.

Steven would just have to redeem the tallest then

Yes

steven universe is trash

im not entirely sure about that, the way he desperatly need validation from the tallest, the way he utterly collapses if he thinks for even a second that he dissapointed them, the way he needs to boast about his superiority all the time.

i feel zim is incredibly insecure about himself, he is just too deluded and stupid to realize or to come to grips with it

Sure. Zim would stop invading and will protect the earth by taking control and turning the humans into glorious servents of the Irken empire instead.

Zim loves himself, and likes what he does. Peridot didn't knew any better.

Steven would play Zim like a damn fiddle