what's the deal with GI Joe that makes it so special??
all it is just generic army people and spy stuff
the only famous character that most people remember is Snake eyes because he was a ninja that just looked really cool
it's no wonder hasbro doesn't know what to do with the franchise
at least with Transformers it has the gimmick or transforming robots and sci fi lore but Joe is military adventure pulp from a long gone era
Mission Impossible or James Bond or Tom Clancy could probably provide the same experience
what makes Joe so special other than 80s Nostalgia??
What's the deal with GI Joe that makes it so special??
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I think just nostalgia. I can’t name any besides Snake Eyes and Joe.
Big ass aircraft carrier toy made you a god on the playground
>Joe
Why do people love Metal Gear? If you know the answer to that you know to this.
Fuck off boomer make way for a real mans toy
Unfortunately patriotism as at an all time low and it's partly the reason why GI Joe has suffered in recent years.
Pic Related is cooler.
>he doesn't know about Joe Colton
Like nearly every popular 80's cartoon it is nearly 100% nostalgia while the actual series and characters were bland as fuck.
I think it had a decent run with the early comics but that is about it.
There is no correlation whatsoever other than both of them having ninjas and military guys.
Why do they? Never played it.
Hey He-Man, Transformers, and Thundercats all had awesome lore with years of great comics. GI Joe? Not so much. I might be overstepping my bounds but COBRA was the most interesting factor about the show
It's openly cartoonish rather than playing it set in reality like the three thriller franchises you mentioned.
Does anyone give a crap about MG before Solid?
>G.I. Joe
>no great comics
What's it like not reading Hama's run?
Can't speak for the cartoon because I never watched a lot of it, but Larry Hama's Marvel run is spectacular. It takes a core of crazy war-themed adventure/espionage action, grounds it in proper military jargon, adds a bunch of sociopolitical satire and criticism, and through it all it stays very character-focused. There's a lot of soap opera melodrama and shady ninja business here and there, but it only works in its favor. It's just a really good comic both for what it is and on its own, and it really deserves all the love it gets.
Thundercats had memorable comics besides the cheetara gang rape?
Cobra Commander is fun in every incarnation
Also I really like Cobra as a concept
Its a terrorist organization that began by people disillusioned by the American dream
What?
It was actually jarring to read the comics if you watched the cartoon first. First Joe comic I read had a story about hijackers and a stewardess having her brains blown off.
So you've never read a Joe comic? You can just say it.
COBRA was started by a used car salesman and is funded by a Wal-Mart chain.
>Its a terrorist organization that began by people disillusioned by the American dream
Or by snake people from before the Ice Age. When GI Joe gets crazy it doesn't do things by halves.
I would say the Hama run was better than anything put out by Thundercats or pre-2000s He-Man honestly and while Cobra was the best part of both the show and comics they were actually a threat instead of useless retards in the comics.
Oh yeah, it can get rough. Issue 1 alone has this page. Because that's what kids always think about when they think GI Joe: murder-suicide to escape enemy capture!
For me it was the absurdity of cobra. scifi tech that was also snake theme that was being used by rouge US based terrorists was just magical
>the only famous character that most people remember is Snake eyes
Snake Eyes was only ever regularly featured in the comic. He's nearly unknown outside of comics fandom.
He’s been in both movies right , I think he’s getting a solo
The comics is why it still has a fanbase. The original Marvel comic was the best "boys' action series" in comic history.
G.I. Joe had BY FAR the best and longest running comic.
Also, ThunderCats was trash.
Comic came first, btw.
The reasons are multiple.
1. The ARAH line was the heir apparent to Star Wars. The Kenner Star Wars line had revolutionized the male toy industry: expensive doll sized toys were out; small 3 3/4th scale figures that you could buy for $2-3 a piece was in and you use those small figures to get kids to buy the more expensive playsets and vehicles.
Star Wars was on it's last legs at the time and GI Joe was there to replace them as the new thing for kids in this format.
2. The ARAH line was one of the first toy lines of the 80s to successfully pull off marketing on multiple levels, especially on TV where rules had changed to allow toy based shows to air. It had a comic, a cartoon, and TONS of merchandise.
3. Rather than generic army men, all of the good guy characters were distinct and unique with their own look and design and gimmick. Meanwhile the bad guys were larger than life, had their own unique look, colorful personalities, and even the bad guy grunts looked and felt like unique characters. In short, they made the characters feel like super-heroes and super-villains, which resonated with fans. Especially in an era when super-hero toys were not widely available/being made.
He was barely in either movie and his solo movie is going to BOMB.
Lol no.
I like him in the Hama comics but his appearances in every other comic continuity are usually pretty meh or it just focuses on him having angsts.
And it became pretty obvious when you had the Transformers vs GI Joe crossovers and all Snake Eyes did was angst in a corner about his burnt face or fight Storm Shadow while everyone else was interacting and fighting.
I wouldn't find him interesting as a character for a solo comic (maybe an arc) but interacting with the other Joes I like because he plays off them pretty well. I also loved him in GI Joe Renegades because he had a sense of humor (and he also did in the Hama comics) and he was very expressive for a character that was mute and mostly faceless so he had personality.
Didn't Hasbro mention that they didn't think kids would buy toys of villains, and then learned that more kids were buying the COBRA toys than the Joes?
Snake Eyes is every kids favorite G.I Joe. He is kind of like Boba Fett. He didn't do shit but everyone remembers him as being great.
if boba fett can wrestle an alligator/crocodile like snake eyes then you have a point.
The fact he used Uzis and a samurai sword is my favorite thing about snake eyes
Hama has even said that's why he thinks the character is so popular.
Every writer but Hama and the Renegades people make Snake Eyes really one dimmensional. Some sort of badass robot guy with angst issues that are never resolved.
Hama's had friends, loved ones, pets, beliefs, feelings of camaraderie and duty and so forth. He may be silent in a mask of one kind or another, but you ALWAYS knew where he stood. Everybody else tried to play him like he may not be trustworthy and it was fucking stupid.
He's one of the main characters in the comic, what are you on about?
Larry Hama
Did Hama think just because of the Uzi? I always liked that really great modern twist on classic elements like the katana and new weapons like a submachine gun. There's great shots of him slicing one foe while buzzing down two or three more with a short burst. The combination of elements is just great. That's another problem with post Hama takes. They usually boil him down to ninja guy with sword. Not Army Ranger Ninja Commando. He's so goddamn Metal Gear it's insane people don't bring it up more.
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The second movie was "The Snake Eyes and Roadblock Show", I fucking love Snake Eyes and even I realized it was too much.
Probably, I mean the man would bring an Uzi to work with him in a briefcase back in the 80s, he clearly thought they were the coolest shit.
Cool vehicles, super poseability and a well-animated half hour commercial that was easily the best of them (strangely, Thundercats comes close.) It was also the cold war so loving America was pretty big in the 80s.
People who only remember Snake Eyes probably just remember when they push the fuck out of him during the ninja craze that went to 11 after TMNT. How could anyone forget Tomax and Xamot?
They were faggots, Cobra Commander or Destro would be better examples.
>the only famous character that most people remember is Snake eyes because he was a ninja that just looked really cool
Cobra Commander
Roadblock
Destro
The Baroness
Storm Shadow
GI Joe has other well known characters aside from Snake Eyes.
>Did Hama think just because of the Uzi?
No. Uzi + ninja sword. He said in an interview a few years ago that he thought the combination was so badass that it gave the character an instant coolness. He didn't say that this was intentional, but that it was his theory as to why the character became so popular (not necessarily the ONLY reason, just the biggest most obvious one).
See: Cobra Commander is BY FAR the most famous G.I. Joe related character to the general public.
Silent Interlude remains one of the best single issues of a comic that Marvel has ever printed.
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Marvel's tribute month to Silent Internet was pretty interesting too.
>Hey He-Man, Transformers, and Thundercats all had awesome lore with years of great comics. GI Joe? Not so much.
Check out this chucklefuck from Universe A over here, go back where you came from you A-hole
>the only famous character that most people remember is Snake eyes
Cobra Commander says you're full of shit.
It's superheroes as army. Or army as superheroes. Either way, the appeal is obvious. As I started to outgrow Transformers, GI Joe became my favourite.
Never had that, or even knew anyone who did, but I did win the Defiant space shuttle.
GI Joe was EASILY the best of the toyline/cartoon comics.
When the hell did Thundercats have a good comic? The He-Man crossover one? Because that'd still mean GI Joe has more better comics than Thundercats.
Joe figures were also way more poseable than SW or TFs. Or He-Man, or Thundercats. And they fit well in the vehicles.
This. They're not a bunch of generic army guys they're all in rather bright and distinct outfits based on their specialization. Snowjob is the arctic trooper (ok there's like 5 of them) Alpine is the mountain guy, every vehicle has their own specific Joe as it's main driver.
Admittedly the cartoon did a crappy job with these distinctions as typically they'd just do whatever the plot required and any Joe could pilot anything. But that's supposed to be the draw of the line.
However they're dated now as America as the World Police is no longer seen as a great thing, and terrorism is now mostly known as religious or national extremists rather than a bunch of psycho's threating to blow stuff up for money.
But in the 80s they fit well with the decade.
Can you blame her? Being raped to Death doesn’t sound like a fun weekend.
Reasons
Lady Jaye was my favorite.
>besides the cheetara gang rape?
When was that? Was that after the wilytwins?