John Dilworth started his own short film Kickstarter and only got $6,000 out of the $85,000 goal

>not calling it a Hoaxis
You had one job, user.

> HARTMAN BAD!
Kill yourselves shills

He just took 270 thousand dollars and shoved it up his ass, how the fuck that's not bad?

He's working on it

Dilworth is working on a short and new Courage

>HARTMAN GOOD!
Butch, stop posting here

>New Courage
is Cartoon Network so desperate their have to revive their older shows like Nickelodeon has done recently?

>Anyone who was actually really into cartoons and animation knew.
And yet they hired him AGAIN to make more Ren & Stimpy and ONCE AGAIN failed to deliver on time.

Wrong, Dilworth has charisma. Have you ever seen him talk and do interviews where he discusses his ideas? He's an energy machine.

He just has trouble marketing himself. John K. was able to thrive on the persona of "Free Critical Cartooning Teacher" during the heyday of blogging. He would submit a constant stream of really amazing cartooning lessons while being critical of modern day toons, all during an era where cartoons were at their lowest point (Somewhere around the CN Real era) It was a big relief for both aspiring artists and people who were just sick of the industry. People ENJOYED watching him tear into generic Disney because they felt like no other cartoonist was ballsy enough to go, "Fuck Fairly Oddparents, it looks like SHIT!".

Dilworth did not aim to build an online fanbase and just focused on content creation, hoping the fans would flock. But he makes pretty niche animated shorts and doesn't advertise himself well enough that despite his Courage fame, he doesn't have the online numbers to match.

Dilworth is literally me with my ideas
Damn... i really feel sorry for him.

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Where is it then, Butch?

More importantly, where the fuck is Dead Meat?

Who?

The Puppet+Animation post apocalyptic series by Maxwell Atoms.

You can appeal to a niche crowd as long as you... Actually appeal to them. Dilworth doesn't reach out to many film festivals, doesn't have a consistent output, and often just drops his work on YouTube with no fanfare.

Bill Plympton is an example of a guy who appeals to a very specific crowd of people who like that cartooning, but he actually knows how to make a name for himself. The trick is to make at least one animated short a year and just spam those suckers into big time festivals until EVENTUALLY your name starts getting recognized by people enough that they'll google you up (And you better have a website with your body of work available there) and it'll just kind of go from there.

Then you can do side stuff for extra attention like story tutorials you put online, or people can e-mail you with a critique, or streams of you animating, whatever.

I keep this in mind when the day comes.
Thanks for sharing those examples.
Anyway...
Dilworth seems of those guys you can share a nice meal about existentialism drama

because Yea Forums sucks K's cock because "muh funny cartoon with sexual innuendo" and thus the average users who don't know the truth about him assume he is an honest guy who just got shat on. The one other element is putting yourself out, which I'm not sure Dilworth did right.

Beat me to it

>Kricfalusi has charisma.
False. Like this user said:
>The average normie saw him as a beloved one hit wonder that mysteriously vanished for no good reason
John K. is quite possible the quintessential "smooth-talking bastard" who shaped the public's image of him into the good guy who was shunned by everyone he knew, when the exact opposite was true behind the scenes.

Dilworth has an Oscar nomination though.

Why is it that the majority of the creators of old CN shows haven't done anything noteworthy since CN or rarely creates TV shows or movies?

Genndy Tartarkovsky and Craig McCraigen are the only ones who gets consistent work and huge fame. Rest of them are basically one-hit wonders

Because the CN execs suck

One nomination isn't enough to build an entire online fanbase and keep you afloat for decades.

Not everyone wants to make cartoons until they die. Maybe they were sick of the industry the first time and want out. Maybe they feel like the industry has changed so much, they don't want back in. Maybe they have tried pitching a show, but their ideas get rejected because they don't appeal to modern audiences. Maybe they pitched a show but asked for too much money, so the networks went after a young graduate who is willing to sign away all their rights out of eagerness. Maybe they ARE one-hit wonders.

There's a lot of reasons, you can't just get a show every couple of years because you made Cow and Chicken that one time.

The guy who made Johnny Bravo mentioned how he only got a show because he was at CN during its startup, leading to them being very open with the pitching process. And even then, he had to have people on the inside fight for Johnny Bravo to get made because a lot of the higher ups thought it wasn't cartoony enough to be on the CartoonNetwork. He said a studio like Nickelodeon would've never given a recent graduate a chance at running a show like CN did at the time.

Seriously western cartoon industries are cancer, indie animations are the only solution but youtube is ruining any chance of that.

People know who John K. is, he's spent his whole life not just promoting Ren and Stimpy, but *himself* as an identity. Nobody in the mainstream actually knows the name of the creator of Courage the Cowardly Dog.

They run out of ideas pretty fast and their style of humor becomes passe, especially when you're talking these guys from 90s CN since that Gen Xer grossout/shock humor they made their name on is outdated, they got replaced by younger cartoon creators who were more tuned into the Millenial/Tumblr/Lylsoquirky kind of comedy.

Genndy and Craig had the talent and ambition to make it their life's work. Many guys are just happy to have one hit cartoon and they feel they've accomplished whatever was it they set out to do.

Butch is the worst example. Like it or not, his kind of cartoon is way too rooted in the 90s to still appeal to people.

Maybe John Dilworth should have spent more time hyping himself as the saviour of cartoons and grooming thirteen year old girls.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

that's a good question. it's so weird seeing talented people like danny antonucci and maxwell atoms go on to do nothing at all.

How come the YouTube cartoon review community far more upset that butch didn’t Admit his cartoon being made for a christian Steaming app than John k admitted to raping kids?

Same shit can be said about Nickelodeon, Mitch Schauer, Peter Hannan, Stephen Hillenburg, John A Davis etc.. are only known for creating one cartoon.

John K’s thing was a #metoo that possibly exploited his mental conditions and could easily be altered by the victims into their favor.

Also, the don’t like Christianity or any of its values (even if they don’t brainwash children, just keep them away from more adult topics).

Danny apparently doesn’t fit in with the current market unless he calarts his style. I’m not kidding.

Whats witj the "humour" of cartoons these last years tho
>something quirky happens
>character mentions mild acceptance of death / "this is my life now" / worried eyebag stare / accept-it-move-on.wav

John Kric-fail-losey managed to built that elitist air upon him which was essential in his quest to dupe clueless simpletons into believing that without him animation just wouldn't exist.

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My dude, he’s a laughing stock and it’s amusing, pull the stick from your ass.

He's more rich than Vasquez

where are you getting that from?

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What does that even mean?

Gravity Falls and SVTFOE are examples of Millenial kind of humor. It's a lot different from Butch's generation and their fixation on being as gross as possible (and having a nostalgia wank over the 70s-80s).

>Gravity Falls and SVTFOE are examples of Millenial kind of humor.
"Quirky" self-awareness, but no self-awareness about the self-awareness. It's like being able to think, but unable to think about thinking.

That only proves how money cannot buy taste nor respect.

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The majority of "comedy writers" in cartoons are people whose only real comedy experience is hanging out with their friends where they either do quirky inside joke things like:

>Purposely sound dumb so as to sound funny ("He my new pet, I bought him with my monies! From henceforth, you shall be KNIFEY-HANDS!!!")
>Combining cheery or mundane attitude with something that should be viewed serious ("AHHHHH, I'M DEAD! KNIFEY-HANDS KILLED ME! Oh no, wait, I'm okay. You're so cute when you're acting murderous, Knifey-Hands!")

And that's basically 99% of humor in modern toons.

>John K got lots of money and made a shitty cartoon through kickstarter
>John Dilworth, after this trainwreck, expected audiences to trust animators on Kickstarter.

No disrespect to Dilworth, but he should have known that the well was poisoned at this point.

Either that, or people just don't trust "Johns" anymore.

Cringe

Well Dilworth is working on a cartoon right now with some colleagues. He's also documenting the work process on his YouTube channel.
youtube.com/user/StretchFilms

Gumball is all about that. Richard nearly destroyed the universe by getting a job.

Gumball seems beloved, but I only care about the catmom.

>Johns
Good. Generic people don’t deserve rights.