Now that the dust is settled, can we all agree that she was worst gem?

>getting that offended by some stupid copy pasta

If you mean compelling in a "god I want her to sexually dominate me" way then yes, agreed

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Lapis can be a good boss fight in FFX.
Only the first one

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If she got tits on any of them, you got tricked

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Lapis would have been great if they actually played up the "from victim to victimizer" angle

That's the beauty of it, porn lets you put boobs on anything. Pearl might be as flat as a board but in my heart she's stacked

based as fuck

Well, I gotta agree on Pearl

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If were talking about lost potential for interesting character depth then White Diamond takes the cake. She really seems like an interesting part of the dynamic but has a whole arc rushed to fit like three minutes.

Bruh, what kind of schizo would make this

yes

you spelled pearl wrong

>could get fresh limb enhancers from HW overnight
>2 years later still gimped
what is it with this show and wasted potential?

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I prefer her somewhat flat but I like her either way from A cup to DDD or maybe more, depending on the style
Also,
>cute overheated slut

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Shhhh user, no limbs, only memes now

It hurts

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That's not Pearl or Peridot, user.

Less rushed and more brushing the implications of her character under a hug to get the pacifist ending that Sugar was desperate for, yet was too lazy to justify.

You realize the point is she was forced to wear those, right. They're shackles, not toys. Don't be a cumbrain just because you want illogical cool shit on screen

Lol what implications, she thought doing this shit was perfect so she did. It's not hard to grasp.

Fascist implications. Sugar went out of her way to make the gems space nazis, that garnet heroically fought against, then she decided that she wanted to redeem the diamonds and immediately dropped all the metaphors for fascism.

Jerry Peet pls go

Cool. What will Steven's brother be like?

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Ye

Deflection is the poor user’s response. Try again, this time rub more brain cells together.

Jerry Peet please leave this Vietnamese knitting pattern forum and return to your Youtube channel posthaste.

They were literal improvements on her body that had multiple uses on her benefit.
Not to mention she's unable to shapeshift, so she's in a position of disadvantage against other gems. It's like telling a cripple that he shouldn't use a wheelchair because he shouldn't be bounded to that machine.

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Doubling down on deflection is the desperate user’s move. So far, I’ve got you down for poor and desperate. Care to add retarded to the list by doubling down a second time?

Agree. Lapis is shit! SHIT!

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I never watched this show but I was in it for the porn. Do any of these side characters impact the story in a meaningful way?

They serve as a deus ex machina at the end

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Okay we get it she fucked up royally. Very cool insight guys, it's fun hearing it over and over and over again. At some point you just have to move on, she has. She was a bad person who did a bad thing regardless of her justification but it's.time.to.move.on. I think she's proven now where she's at and I doubt we'll see anything else shitty. If we can forgive the damn diamonds for being...awful. I think we can forgive Lapis for the shitty things she did.

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all the gems are shit but the diamonds. they did nothing wrong

Come on Lapis, you're being too obvious. Go to sleep already.

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idk I'm still pretty iffy on Bismuth

Also do we count Jasper? Because she raped a dog

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I'm pretty sure she hates herself too much to defend herself or her actions. I think she'd honestly just rather go away and let the world forget about her, unfortunately Steven's the one who won't let go. If you want to blame anyone for why she's still around blame him. But hey maybe the 14 year old /co-proclaimed-whiny-baby-manchild is just more mature than half the board, wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.

Of the Crystal Gems, Fapiss is the worst.
Of all Gemkind, that fucking caterpillar creatura needs to die.

>I think she'd honestly just rather go away and let the world forget about her
>She actually went away
>But she took the barn and just stayed on the moon
Yeah, nah

I like her psychopathic outbursts. They make a lot more sense.

>Slaughter untold amounts of gems, even technically your own allies, in the name of Rose
>Get PTSD
>All for a lie
>Naturally, she tries to kill Steven

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"Lady of the sea,
Happy as can be..."

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Rip that guy, he's in a better place now.

OP, I want you to know, even though I feel that you've said bad things, I don't think you're such a bad person that you're incapable of growing into a good person.

It's just going to take a lot of work.

She was the most useless and poorly written gem who had no reason to continue existing after her debut since dragging Jasper and Peridot along with her offscreen to treat them like shit was all she really contributed to the show

Also when the real antichrist comes none would notice. Therefore if someone calls someone antichrist, the're not.

yeah cause she hates herself and everyone else. She took the only thing she ever felt even a sliver of sympathy for. She's a broken piece of absolute garbage that wants to be done with the world and die, but it won't let her, and Steven can't let go. Yeah she did leave, cause she hates herself. I'm not really sure how you don't inform that within the story. But we're getting off track. She did dumb shit. She keeps doing dumb shit. She will continue to do dumb shit because she hates herself. But Steven won't let her go. He probably wouldn't even if the world was going to explode. And why the fuck is he even her friend in the first place? After all the shit she's caused? After everything she's done he keeps coming back, these dumb people keep coming back to help, even though she's going to betray them. They hate her. They must. But they keep coming back, what the hell?

She's a symbol of self-loathing, extreme anxiety, and absolute suffering. You might disagree with how she feels but that's the thing about people (Or I guess in this case fictional characters) you might know everything in the world but you do not get to dictate how people feel. People aren't logical, they don't always do the right thing, and ones like her who are so filled with regret and pain and anxiety do stupid shit and hurt the ones they love over and over and over again, and people coming to help only makes things worse. When you just want to be done with everything but still find that damn shining light to keep you there and it won't shut up and, just for a second, you actually feel like things might be okay only for everything to return later. That's a real thing lots of people actually experience. And it's only the stupid empathetic idiots who keep rushing back after every stupid decision that help them get back on the right path.
Smart logical know-it-alls that keep shutting you down and telling you you're shit and that you'll never amount to anything and that everything you do is doomed to fail from the start. Yeah those are the ones that keep people on the brink. Those are the ones that get people closer and closer to the line of just being done. But I'm sure you're totally for that. Fuck her. She sucks and ruins your show so you'd rather her be done and out. Why keep her around if she ruins your good time? She's just a shitty cartoon character. But what about the people that actually need to see that. Not even think of the kids but just like, think of someone other than yourself for once in your damn life. You may be a troll. You might be happy with your life and everyone else can go suck it. You might have it all figured out and this idiot ranting to you right now is just another retard on your online board that's shitting it up.
I don't know, and honestly? I don't really give a shit.

If you do actually care to listen for once in your life on this chinese basket weaving forum that occasionally discusses cartoons let me just say this one thing. If you listen to anything else, hear this. Have empathy in your life. It's not all about you and what you want and need out of media. Every character should not be you or for you or think like you. The diversification of characters in a piece of media is what lends itself credence and credit. Seriously. You may or may not be memeing but realize this: You actually have empathy like everyone else and you're expressing it. I mean shit, this cartoon character makes you feel rage and anger, how neat is that shit? But maybe, just maybe, you can take the context of the show and put yourself in her shoes for a minute. In the shoes of a desolate idiot who was betrayed by those she called allies, released into a strange new world, and then kept fucking up over and over and over again. How would you feel in that situation? Probably not great. And, just like a deer in the headlight, I bet right now you have it all planned out in your head how you'd do it right, but that's the thing about it. You don't have any goddamned idea how you'd act unless you were in that situation right now.
Is it the best written show in the world? No of course not. Is she the best character ever? No not at all. But she certainly could use a dose of you assmad idiots getting over this stupid grudge you're holding over this character's head.
And before you get all angry and 'it's just a cartoon bro' we are on a fucking cartoon board in the middle of the night discussing a show about lesbian rock aliens that raise a magic boy who cries and sings and shit. Not you or anyone else can take the damn highroad here. We're all in this together, so don't change the subject.
Idk maybe in a way I just get sick of seeing the same discussions here over and over again as well like, pick a different character to dissect.

It's this and mabel and ponyshit which send this board into an incredible seething rage and you've literally said all that you could ever possibly say about any of that. Maybe we just need to accept that with these topic nobody's gonna change their fucking mind. that's what I mean about moving on. Just forget it, stop talking about it. There's no point if it's always going to devolve into the same name-calling as always. Why do fandoms always have to do this? There's always this one or two things that everybody can't seem to get over and it turns into this heated debate where literally everybody just gets mad as shit and nobody's having a good time anymore. WHY the hell do we do this with the media we supposedly love? Like shouldn't you want to celebrate it rather than magnify every tiny flaw like it's suddenly a huge deal now even though it's not, not even a little bit? Nothing can be good enough it's never been and it never will be.
It's funny. You think just recognizing that would be enough to break the cycle but I guess there never will be. There will always be people yelling on both sides about (insert media here) because I'm right and you're wrong and we're doing this because we have absolutely nothing better to do. Screw middle ground, screw conceding that you have a good point, screw arguing with the intent of going anywhere. I'm on my tribe and you are on yours so fuck you.

You know what's funny is that to contrast with your extra long word walls about Lapis being defined by self loathing or whatever, Rebecca has stated that what makes Lapis different from Jasper is that Lapis thought she deserved better than what happened to her while Jasper hated herself and thought she deserved to suffer. Lapis doesn't hate herself, she just doesn't have any interests beyond self preservation and her desire for control and a target for her anger during Malachite because of how long she spent trapped in the mirror, so she keeps acting selfishly and putting herself before others and only ends up reflecting on herself when she starts feeling guilty about how hurtful her actions were.

A four part copypasta, holy cow!

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fair enough. I concede.
I'm drunk, I'm tired, and I'm going to bed. I'm a bigger part of the problem than anyone else lol. I just wrote a four page paragraph about pretty much nothing even though I should probably be sleeping.

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Hey I'm drunk and should probably be sleeping instead of shitposting on Yea Forums at 3am too, cheers

Hey look, an user who actually knows what he’s talking about

so why aren't we talking about best gem again?

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gosh shes so cool like the joker almost. i wanna be her and have her springy powers and i bet shes gonna kck stevens but

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You're God Damn Right

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your stupid butt is gosh darn right. so caught up on any other gem that you wont take about best grl

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this is what id do to your face if it were me that was her

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best pic for last to cause shes so mad and crazy that things have got so bad with the gempire. the dumb diamonds didnt need to listn to stevn they were doing great but nooo hopefully this girl sets him straigh t and woah i just thought of a new threory what if this gem actualy kills wone of steens family? like what if garnet dies. that would be crazzyyyy

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In a show where Ruby and Sapphire exist? Hell no. And honestly, most of the time, I appreciated Lapis treating Homeworld like it was the unstoppable force it should have been. Her abject terror gave the antagonists gravitas that the writers never fucking lived up to in the slightest.

No the Diamonds are talked down quite easily and all is fine. Pay no attention to the gem behind the screen. Oh wait you did. And you talked to her about how she was being mean? And she's done being mean...okay yeah I guess pack it up girls...? Also Ruby and Sapphire are co-dependent as hell and that's looked at as this really awesome thing but, it's really not. That's not how a real, actual, functioning relationship should be.

She's still the hottest one

Nyo.

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gay

ya deal with it scrub

Less childishly kind and more Maturely straight Forward. If a beat down needs to happen then it may as well happen. And A Whole lot less will to take Blame anything rose had to do with.

Rebecca Sugar is an idiot and she and her team can only half write. For a second it seems fine but then everything goes off rails because it's really bad and not good

Now you may be fucking with me.

Then Propedly Bring it Fucker.

i wouldn't do that cause I think you think your stupid and stuff
do you even see my crazy eye that id have if I was her my dude. wow you are so dumb for even saying that. i will come to your place and sprnig you like this thot is spring steven. i bet shes gonna 'demption arc too and be more powerful than garnet

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You already know how this is gonna end. And i'll give yeah a hint for shitsngiggles it Won't be you

Yes

Yep. It doesn’t help either that her voice became more and more annoying after she came back and started acting like a bitch.

True, but funnily enough Lapis is just too gosh darn dumb to provide such a decent argument for letting her past deeds go.

She is certainly the dumbest gem.

Waifu-bait hotness doesn't count... because I said so.